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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
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Total number of notes:13349

1346.0. "The King - Elvis" by TOOK::MICHAUD (Jeff Michaud, DECnet-ULTRIX) Wed Oct 12 1988 20:31

    Well I can't believe it, I did a "dir/all/title=elvis" and it
    only yield "Elvis Costello" (eeeek :-).
    
    Does anyone have a real good "Elvis Greatest Hits" type CD?  I've
    rented a GH type version from the library in the past that had
    "Gold" in the title and wasn't impressed.  Recently I have seen
    two different GH of Elvis collections.  One was a "All the Number
    One Hits" that fit on one CD, the other one was "All the Top 10
    Hits" and it fit on two CD's.  Does anyone own these, and if so
    do you recommend either/both of them?
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1346.1How to handle a major star poorly :==RCAVEEJAY::ECTORBush/Dukakis??? Give us a choice !!Thu Oct 13 1988 18:0838
    
    
    2 things about Elvis music on CD. If it's an old RCA single album
    reissue, then expect less than half of the CD capability. In other
    words, you're paying full CD price for usually less than 35 minutes
    worth of music. A famous one for this is "Return of the Rocker"
    which clocks in at 31 minutes.
    
    The second thing is, beware of the digital transfers by RCA, which
    may sound vastly different than what you're used to hearing on record.
    It's not that these are bad, on the contrary, just different sounding,
    i.e.; less depth, less echo effect, higher highs....all the bad
    things about analog to digital transfer. Keep in mind the age of
    the masters.
    
    Personally, I only have one CD with Elvis music on it (the previously
    mentioned "Return of the Rocker"), although I've heard the "Number
    1 hits" & "Top Ten" compilations. Save your money & buy all the
    remastered, mono originals on lp. These are all marked with a black
    or gold paper band around the shrink wrap & state that they're
    remastered AND remixed from the original mono tapes. These sound
    impressive as hell and better than I remember them as originals.
    If you're wondering why I got the one CD, it's because it had a
    couple of songs (most notworthy is the 1:59 "Follow That Dream")
    which had only previously been issued on EP's, long out of print.
    
    RCA's big problem with Elvis reissues is that no one there knows
    his music anymore, in either how to sequence it or how to package
    it. RCA's Presley marketing has been & probably always will be tacky,
    and downright greedy. I'm sure Col. Parker still has his greasy
    fingers in the pie. Presley releases have never been for the fans,
    but only for the money it could part them with. Unfortunate, but
    true. If Elvis had ever paid attention or had ever had a say, it
    may have been different.
    
    				The Cruiser
    
    
1346.2what nextAYOV29::KIRKPATRICKWed Nov 02 1988 04:3624
    Around eighteen months ago RCA issued a double CD (45 tracks) "GHs"
    compilation in the UK. Can't remember the name, I asssume its "Elvis's
    Greatest Hits" or something equally original. It has a red cover.
    It retailed in the UK at 15 pounds.
    
    The previous note is correct about the sound. The track that I
    found to sound very shallow was "suspicious minds" to the point
    that I thought it was not the original. Still, I found the overall
    package very enjoyable.
    
    I believe that there is a single CD issued by RCA covering the Memphis
    recording sessions including tracks like "suspicious minds", "in the 
    ghetto". These recordings were originally issued on two records. This 
    seems to show that RCA have hired someone with a little bit of "grey 
    matter" willing to group related tracks to produce a meaningful
    album rather than shuffle a load of tracks to produce yet another
    "GH", "best of", "golden greats" compilation. 
                                            
    On the other hand - some nut in RCA has deemed it necessary to issue
    the "alternate aloha from hawaii" which is a recording of the
    rehearsal. What next - "elvis whistles in the bath". 
                                                        
    
    I.K.f
1346.3why did they do this?COMET::BERRYAnnie are you ok, Are you ok ANNIE!Tue Dec 20 1988 02:4715
    I have "Elvis" - 50 Worldwide Gold Hit - volume 1 - part 1 & 2 .
    
    It's really strange, part one of the two disc set, is all in mono.
    It sounds very shallow, but clear.
    
    The second disc, part 2 of the same set, is all done in stereo. 
    It sounds wonderful!  What a difference!
    
    Suspicious Minds on that second disc, in stereo sounds great, as
    do the rest of the songs on that discs!
    
    Does anyone know why they couldn't add the stereo touch to the first
    disc?
    
    Dwight
1346.4LESLIE::LESLIETue Dec 20 1988 03:074
    Presumably because it was recorded monaurally and they decided not to
    tamper?
    
    Andy
1346.5RCA stereo ?AYOV27::KIRKPATRICKTue Dec 20 1988 04:2518
    Does digital re-mastering mean that it is 'easier' to separate sound,
    and so produce 'quality' stereo.
    
    I bought the G.H.s Elvis package after looking at the package info
    to see if they (RCA) had left what was originally in mono, as mono.
    
    I remember the earlier RCA re-issues, mostly on Camden vinyl, which
    had originally been mono, became re-gurgitated stereo - and sounded
    awful.       
    
    The Memphis package I mentioned in an earlier note consists of 23
    tracks on one CD, but the packaging is absolutely terrible. I
    would have thought that having issued a 'meaningful' set, RCA might
    just have had the sense to give the recording dates, times, musicians,
    etc. Instead its a write-up by someone giving, on the whole, a load
    of irrelevant rubbish. 
    
    Ian K.
1346.6HELIX::CLARKTue Dec 20 1988 11:4215
    RE: .3
    
    The version of 50 Worldwide Gold Hits I have (the complete 4-record
    set) was programmed chronologically (in order of chart impact, not
    actual recording dates).  So the earlier sides would indeed be
    difficult to render in decent stereo.  RCA's previous rechanneled-
    stereo versions of the early RCA hits sides didn't sound particularly
    decent if you were already familiar with the original 45 releases. 
    
    Personally, I would rather have the sides recorded for mono kept in
    mono, even if enough tracks were used to remix for true (hah!) stereo.
    But I'm a known crank on this topic -- for example, I'm not at all
    peeved, like practically everyone else, that the first 4 Beatles CDs
    came out in mono (although I will grant that the stereo [per]versions
    ought to be out there as well).