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Created:	Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1517
Total number of notes:	13349

854.0. "JOSHUA TREE PROBlem" by YODA::TRABUCCHI () Fri Aug 07 1987 20:08

    
    
    
    	I have had an interesting problem with the Joshua Tree CD by
    U2.  When I play the CD in sequence (1-10), it sounds fine.  But
    when I play the cd skipping songs either randomly or in a programmed
    fashion, My Sony CD player will play the first "bit" of music
    in the next song skipped.
    	For example, it plays With/Without you (3) and as before it
    jumps to the next song,say (6), it will play the first note in song
    (4) Bullet the Blue Sky.  However, the program counter doesn't change
    from song to 3 to 4 when it plays the stray note.
    	It only happens on two songs on the CD and it always happens.
     I have returned the CD twice hoping it was just a bad lot, but
     I got a new one again recently after 3 new lots at Lechmere and
     it does the same thing.
    
    	My Sony player only has had trouble with this CD.  I am wondering,
    has anyone else had similar problems ???

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
854.1	an example of sloppy workmanship	TOOK::MATTIOLI	John Mattioli	`Fri Aug 07 1987 20:40`	15
	Returning the disc won't help. When the disc is produced the beginning of each song must be marked with a signal. I can't tell you exactly how this is done, only that it is. If the person putting the disc together isn't careful, or rather is careless, they can put this signal in the wrong place. For further examples of sloppy work see the following discs: Clapton - Time Pieces (song 2 into 3) Moody Blues - Long distance voyager (I don't remember the song) A much easier way to hear this is by asking your player to play a given song. For example, on the Clapton disc pressing "3" "play" will allow you to hear all but the attack of the first note.
854.2	More Sloppy Workmanship (Careless)	SUBSYS::GLORIOSO		`Thu Aug 20 1987 19:31`	8
	Another example similar "sloppy workmanship" is on The Smitherines album "Especially For You" on the song "Blood and Roses" (The biggest hit on the album). The end of the song is a studio fade and about two thirds of the way through the fade the music dies completely for about 2 seconds and then comes back in with rest of the fade. A friend of mine has the same disc and has the same problem. Scott.
854.3	Other Sloppy Edits to CD	AQUA::ROST	Are we having fun yet?	`Thu Aug 20 1987 19:38`	15
	I have noticed this problem on the first track of Richard Thompson's "Daring Adventures" and the first track of the Motown sampler... In both cases it seems that the initial attack is missing.... Without vinyl to check against it is hard to tell for sure, but in both cases, it sounds weird... In the U2 case, you can also check the time readout to see if the guy who cut the master screwed up. That is, does the first note sound before the readout for the track goes to zero?
854.4	Hmmm....	HPSCAD::WALL	I see the middle kingdom...	`Fri Aug 21 1987 14:05`	6
	Odd. I've got the Smithereen's CD, and don't have the problem. Or perhaps I don't notice it. I tend to listen to bands like the Smithereens in 'shuffle' mode. DFW
854.5	Keep Looking There Are Others	RHODES::BOYD		`Wed Sep 09 1987 22:51`	11
	RE .1 It would seem that the "space mark" that is inserted between songs is sometimes 'sloopy'. Other CDs that have this problem are listed below. THE BEATLES (White album) BAD Micheal Jackson only one song SGRT. PEPPERS' L H C B The Beatles. Hard to break up the original content. Special note: contains the Laughing at the end of the CD