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| 599.1 | I want my MTV! | AKOV01::KAPLAN | S.R. Kaplan | Mon Jan 12 1987 11:43 | 3 |
| According to the fine folks at MTV they will be out at the end of
February. (this from the people who ran 'The Monkees' 24 hours a
day)
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| 599.2 | And another rumor ... | FURILO::PROPPER | | Mon Jan 12 1987 12:49 | 2 |
| From what I heard on the news they were planning to release the
first 13 Beatles albums after January.
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| 599.3 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Three rights make a left | Mon Jan 12 1987 13:38 | 3 |
| February 26, or something like that, was the date I heard. February
is indeed after January.
Steve
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| 599.4 | | SHIVER::EDSOND | | Mon Jan 12 1987 15:25 | 5 |
| Not to be negative, but are you sure they didn't give a release
date of February 29? What changed on the royalty front so that
they could release the Beatle music on CD?
Don
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| 599.5 | Beatles 4 Sale! | LA780::GOLDSMITH | Reserved for Future Use. | Mon Jan 12 1987 18:42 | 21 |
| The OFFICIAL date from a Capitol press release is 27-Feb-1987.
This is the first four British Albums. The remaining ones have not
set date yet (my guess is by X-mas).
My understanding is that the argument with Yo-yo Oh-no was just
a rumor and that the issue had been resolved 5 years ago.
EMI was punishing the Beatles for some previous problems.
Why? I don't know. It's pretty silly not to have cashed in one
the building market for these CDs by now.
But that comes from one of my CD sources here in So. Cal.
The official story is that capitol was waiting to open their own
CD plant.
500,000 of each of the titles will be shipped to retailers.
--- Neal
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| 599.6 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Three rights make a left | Mon Jan 12 1987 19:48 | 4 |
| EMI has also been reported as saying that they expect the sales
of these CDs to exceed those of the recent Bruce Springsteen live
set.
Steve
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| 599.7 | | AKOV68::BOYAJIAN | A disgrace to the forces of evil | Tue Jan 13 1987 05:42 | 9 |
| ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT last Friday had also mentioned late February
for the release of the first four Beatles CD's. I don't recall
exactly what the problem was, but it seemed to be a question of
how much the Beatles should get as payment. It's my guess that
Capitol wanted to give them the same rate as for the LP's (based
on the retail price), as oppsed to a new rate absed on the CD
retail price.
--- jerry
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| 599.8 | EMI? Imports? | TLE::WARD | | Tue Jan 13 1987 12:42 | 11 |
| So, what exactly is EMI going to do? For some reason, 500,000 does not
seem like a heckuva lot to me (not for these babies, at least!). What will
we see as British imports? ...other imports?
Also, does anybody know what became of Capitol's plan to release the
following albums FIRST?
- Abbey Road
- The Beatles ("The White Album")
- Sgt. Pepper
- '62-'66 and '67-'70 greatest hits sets
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| 599.9 | Alot is Alot. | LA730::GOLDSMITH | Reserved for Future Use. | Tue Jan 13 1987 17:07 | 6 |
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The 500,000 per title figure is only the initial release. 2 million
CDs is alot. My understanding is that this will be a domestic release
and that the releases in other countries will be timed to match.
--- Neal
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| 599.10 | | ULTRA::HERBISON | B.J. [Digital Internal Use Only] | Wed Jan 14 1987 14:30 | 15 |
| Re: .8
> Also, does anybody know what became of Capitol's plan to release the
> following albums FIRST?
According to an article in the Boston Globe this morning,
`... with the remaining studio albums due - in chronological
order - by the end of the year'.
This is obviously the best way to do it (for Capitol). Everyone
will buy the first releases so they can have some Beatles on CD.
Then, when the more popular albums come out, everyone will by
those because they want to listen to them. If the popular
albums came out first then the older albums would sell fewer
copies.
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| 599.11 | | SARAH::P_DAVIS | Peter Davis, XNY | Wed Jan 14 1987 15:10 | 5 |
| Re/ .10:
I don't know about you, but I can't think of a single complete clunker
in the entire Beatles' discography. I'll be just as glad to get
the old stuff as the new.
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| 599.12 | old ones are really short | DSSDEV::STRANGE | Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite | Wed Jan 14 1987 15:50 | 8 |
| Re:.11
Agreed. BTW, the older albums are a lot shorter. I'm quite
sure that Please Please Me and With The Beatles would fit on a single
disc, but they'll never do that. The Red album (62-66) would also
fit on a single disc, and that seems like a reasonable thing to do,
but we are talking about Capitol here...
-Steve_who'll_buy_them_all_eventually
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| 599.13 | | SARAH::P_DAVIS | Peter Davis, XNY | Wed Jan 14 1987 16:32 | 13 |
| Re/ .12:
Personally, I think they can shove the greatest hits collections,
but I'm sure they'll release 'em anyway. I thought they'd release
those first, just to attract the audience that's desperate for Beatles,
and then release the individual albums, so everyone would have to
buy those in addition! I'm glad they're not doing that. A guy
I spoke to at BCD conjectured that they think holding off on the
greatest hits albums will get more people to buy all the individual
ones. I guess there are some people who don't really want EVERYTHING,
but I'm not one of 'em.
-pd
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| 599.14 | I'm adicted to buying discs | ULTRA::HERBISON | B.J. [Digital Internal Use Only] | Wed Jan 14 1987 20:01 | 9 |
| I will also get all of the discs, with the possible exception
of the `Greatest Hits'. It may take a while (I purchased
a house yesterday and it will put a crimp in my spending
money). The idea of only wanting some of the late Beatles
albums from from talking to various people who are less fanatic
than the people who are replying to this topic (especially
the author of .14).
B.J.
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| 599.15 | | DSSDEV::STRANGE | Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite | Wed Jan 14 1987 20:58 | 8 |
| Buy a DAT machine, and you can make your own Greatest Hits tapes.
:-)
Actually, there are a few early songs missing from the British albums
that were released as singles there. Of course they're on the US
albums, since Capitol made up their own albums to make more money.
-Steve
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| 599.16 | The "Complete" Beatles? | PIXEL::COHEN | Richard Cohen | Thu Jan 15 1987 02:00 | 22 |
| Let me expound a little on .15. If you do not buy the greatest
hits records, you will NOT hear "I Want to Hold Your Hand". Many
times the Beatles would release songs on singles or EPs in England
which were not duplicated on albums. Capitol reordered the stuff
to put all the songs onto a single format, which was the LP. They
missed a few, which did end up on various hits packages or the Rarities
LP. At the same time they cut down the number of tracks from 14
to 12 per album, thus making several more albums to sell.
One solution is to take the single and EP tracks that are
missing and put them onto the CD of the appropriate time frame.
I have done this on cassette tapes and each album still comes out
to around 45 minutes.
Another solution would be to double up the albums, and then take
all of the missing songs and stick them onto one CD. I think that
they would all fit. While they're at it, I think they could skip
side 2 of the Yellow Submarine album, which is all George Martin
instrumentals.
- Rick
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| 599.17 | Post-Beatles Solo, etc... | TLE::WARD | | Thu Jan 15 1987 12:57 | 4 |
| Has anyone heard about plans to release the post-Beatles solo stuff?
How 'bout other non-Beatle Apple stuff like Badfinger?
Dr. Winston O'Boogie 8-+ <-- so, can you make a better one with 3 chars?
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| 599.18 | some Lennon, McCartney | DSSDEV::STRANGE | Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite | Thu Jan 15 1987 13:58 | 20 |
| Well, so far nothing by Ringo or George is out, but I have seen
Double Fantasy, Milk & Honey, Live in NYC, and Menlove Ave. on CD.
And McCartney:
Band On The Run
Venus And Mars
Tug Of War
Pipes of Peace
Give My Regards To Broad Street
Press To Play
Wings' Greatest
Wings Over America
I'd like to see the missing ones released...
BTW, Band On The Run is now being printed on the Capitol Label (used
to be Columbia), since Paul re-signed with Capitol in 1985. Maybe
my Columbia one will be worth something someday... :-)
-Steve
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| 599.19 | Shaved Fish | TLE::WARD | | Thu Jan 15 1987 19:27 | 9 |
| Yeah, I have the Columbia "Band On The Run" too. It has the extra cut
"Helen Wheels" on it. The import and the new Capitol release are missing
the song. That adds *extra* value!
...But wouldn't ya just love to hear "All Things Must Pass", "Plastic
Ono Band", "Live Peace in Toronto", "Ram", etc. on CD? I'm sure we all
want these as much as the Beatles stuff...
nhoJ (-8
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| 599.20 | legal hassels settled? | NEXUS::GORTMAKER | | Fri Jan 16 1987 01:17 | 4 |
| I heard on the radio today the legals had been worked out and all
albums would be rel;eased soon. Anyone else hear this rumor?
-j
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| 599.21 | And you're never gonna take her away | DSSDEV::STRANGE | Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite | Fri Jan 16 1987 11:54 | 10 |
| re:.19
Wait a sec, are you SURE about Helen Wheels being missing from
those other discs? After all, that song has always been part of
the album, so I find it hard to believe they would delete it from
a new disc. I'll have to check next time I see one.
I'm waiting for 'Back to the Egg', 'London Town', and 'McCartney'
from Paul's post-Beatles stuff.
-Steve
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| 599.22 | I'm sure... | PIXEL::COHEN | Richard Cohen | Fri Jan 16 1987 12:49 | 9 |
| Helen Wheels has NEVER been on the British release of Band on the
Run. The new Capitol CD release does NOT have it.
Helen Wheels was released as a single in the US and just like they
used to do with the Beatles, Capitol added it to the BOTR album.
- Rick
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| 599.23 | Something new to me | DSSDEV::STRANGE | Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite | Fri Jan 16 1987 14:23 | 2 |
| Wow, never knew that... I guess I never obtained an import of BOTR.
How about the Japanese audiophile pressing, does it have it?
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| 599.24 | Rock'n Mania | ANNEX::LOVING | Jim Loving | Mon Jan 19 1987 13:18 | 10 |
| I stopped in Rock'n Mania yesterday for the first time. This
lives up to it's billing. It's has the best Cd selection I've
seen to date.
They are taking orders for the four Beatles CDs. They expect the
delivery date to around Feb 27th. They are asking for a $10
deposit on each CD order. They expect the other US releases to
be in about 9 - 10 months.
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| 599.25 | MONO Beatles? | SEDSWS::WATT | really HAZARD::EDMUNDS | Mon Jan 19 1987 17:26 | 12 |
| I heard a rumour (source below) that the first four Beatles
albums to be released would be in MONO, with the stereo version
to follow later in the year. Not sure if this applies to just the
UK or the entire solar system. However, if it is true, I for one
will suffer and wait for the stereo version: I'm not buying a mono
CD when the LP is stereo!!
Source of rumour: Roger Scott on Capital Radio - a London
commercial radio station. Would normally disbelieve this sort of
rumour, but Roger Scott is not normally wrong...
Keith Edmunds
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| 599.26 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Three rights make a left | Mon Jan 19 1987 17:39 | 8 |
| I am not an expert on Beatles recordings, but weren't a lot of the
"stereo" LPs of the time (pre-1966, let's say) actually "electronically
simulated stereo"? If so, I'd rather have the mono. My recollection
is that "popular" LPs weren't generally released in true stereo
until the latter half of the 1960s. (I remember buying "Surrealistic
Pillow" by Jefferson Airplane in mono - a stereo version was also
available.)
Steve
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| 599.27 | "100% Pure" or "From Concentrate"? | TLE::WARD | | Mon Jan 19 1987 20:27 | 9 |
| Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all of the recordings the
Beatles made with George Martin (that would include the first four British
LP's) were made live and in true stereo -- with a two-track recorder.
It's easy to tell, for example, that "I Saw Her Standing There" was recorded
in true stereo. Fact is, it sounds as good as some multi-track, overdubbed,
overdone stereo recordings made today.
John_Who_Used_To_Be_From_MA_And_CA_But_Is_Now_And_4Ever_A_Beatlemaniac_From_NH
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| 599.28 | Beatles 4 the weekend. | LA780::GOLDSMITH | Reserved for Future Use. | Mon Jan 19 1987 20:34 | 13 |
| *** NEWS FLASH *** NEWS FLASH *** NEWS FLASH ***
Import release of the Beatles CDs is 22-Jan-1987!!!
This comes from an excellent source (my sister, an import CD buyer).
Here in LA, we get imports within 48-Hours of their foreign release
(baring customs problems). If this holds true elsewhere, then start
calling your local import shop today.
To recap: That's right, Beatles CDs by the end of this week!
--- Neal
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| 599.29 | All Stereo (no mono) | DROID::EDRY | Bob | Mon Jan 19 1987 21:42 | 7 |
|
The master tapes were all recorded in stereo, so all CDs would have
to be stereo.
My source is a picture of the original master tape boxes, and the
album covers as release by Parlophone, not to mention all the albums
release by Mobile Fidelity "The Beatle's / The collection"
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| 599.30 | Some mono? | RSTS32::LABA | | Tue Jan 20 1987 01:27 | 38 |
| Bob may be right, but I can't find a stereo version of "She Loves
You" anywhere. Don't bother looking in your Mobile Fidelity Beatles'
Collection, it wasn't included. That and several other songs released
on a Parlophone LP called, "A Collection of Beatles Oldies" wasn't
included in the MF collection.
I have four versions of that song, all in mono: 1) the US single,
2) the above mentioned Parlophone LP, 3) The Capitol red double
album collection (Beatles 62-67 or whatever), 4) Meet the Beatles
LP. My Meet the Beatles LP is all mono, so I can't be sure that
the song was recorded in mono.
By the way, I've compiled a list of songs from the Beatles discography
that wasn't included in the MF collection, along with the US and
UK source for the song. I compiled it a year ago, so some of the
songs may be included in some of the newer Beatls' "Rarities" or
other collection LPs. I'll include it as a separate reply for those
interested.
If anyone can find a stereo version of "She Loves You," I'd be
interestedin hearing where you found it. I'd also like to know
about any other Beatles' songs that appear to be mono-only.
Re: which versions of the Beatles LPs they come out with on CD, I
hope they go after the Parlophone format (it appears to be the
case based on the list of first four CDs to be released). More
important though is that we get a COMPLETE collection. You can't
do that by choosing one or the other. There are some songs that
were never released on any Parlophone or Capitol LP; they were only
released on singles or EPs.
I also hope they go after the studio recording masters and don't try
to "improve" anything. George Martin did wonders in a recording
studio; trying to improve his work would be an injustice to his talent.
I'll gladly trade off some hiss to stay close to the original music.
Paul
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| 599.31 | Songs missing from Mobile Fidelity collection | RSTS32::LABA | | Tue Jan 20 1987 01:30 | 80 |
| Here's the list of songs from the Beatles discography which are not found
in the Mobil Fidelity's Beatle's Collection. Also listed is where the song
did appear. "EP" is the UK's "extended play" singles. Also, many of these
songs are found on the later-released double album sets, "Beatles 62-67" and
"Beatles 68-70" which are available under the Capitol and Parlophone labels.
Title (author) UK Album US Album
-------------- -------- --------
1. BAD BOY A Collection of Beatles VI
(Larry Williams) Beatles Oldies
2. BALLAD OF JOHN AND YOKO none (single) Hey Jude
(Lennon/McCartney)
3. DAY TRIPPER A Collection of "Yesterday"..and Today
(Lennon/McCartney) Beatles Oldies
4. DON'T LET ME DOWN none (single) Hey Jude
(Lennon/McCartney)
5. FROM ME TO YOU A Collection of none (single)
(Lennon/McCartney) Beatles Oldies
6. HEY JUDE none (single) Hey Jude
(Lennon/McCartney)
7. I CALL YOUR NAME none (EP) The Beatles 2nd Album
(Lennon/McCartney)
8. I FEEL FINE none (single/EP) Beatles '65
(Lennon/McCartney)
9. I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND A Collection of Meet the Beatles!
(Lennon/McCartney) Beatles Oldies
10. I'M DOWN none (single) none (single)
(Lennon/McCartney)
11. LADY MADONNA none (single) Hey Jude
(Lennon/McCartney)
12. LONG TALL SALLY none (EP) The Beatles 2nd Album
(Johnson-Penniman-Blackwell)
13. MATCHBOX none (EP) Something New
(Carl Perkins)
14. OLD BROWN SHOE none (single) Hey Jude
(George Harrison)
15. PAPERBACK WRITER A Collection of Hey Jude
(Lennon/McCartney) Beatles Oldies
16. RAIN none (single) Hey Jude
(Lennon/McCartney)
17. SHE LOVES YOU A Collection of The Beatles 2nd Album
(Lennon/McCartney) Beatles Oldies
18. SHE'S A WOMAN Beatles Rarities Beatles '65
(Lennon/McCartney)
19. SLOW DOWN none (EP) Something New
(Larry Williams)
20. THANK YOU GIRL none (EP/single) The Beatles 2nd Album
(Lennon/McCartney)
21. THIS BOY (RINGO'S THEME) none (single) Meet the Beatles!
(Lennon/McCartney)
22. WE CAN WORK IT OUT A Collection of "Yesterday".. and Today
(Lennon/McCartney) Beatles Oldies
23. YES IT IS none (single) Beatles VI
(Lennon/McCartney)
24. YOU KNOW MY NAME (LOOK none (single) none (single)
UP THE NUMBER)
(Lennon/McCartney)
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| 599.32 | An update on the Rock'n Mania Beatles CD pre-orders | RSTS32::LABA | I like shiny little disks | Wed Jan 21 1987 12:09 | 8 |
| I spoke with someone are Rock'n Mania yesterday:
1) They are NOT taking pre-orders on the Beatles CDs,
2) They are expecting the Beatles CDs in March (moved
out from February).
Paul
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| 599.33 | PC Music IS taking orders | AIMHI::STEININGER | | Wed Jan 21 1987 15:09 | 5 |
|
PC Music in Nashua IS accepting pre-orders for the Beatles disks.
The price will be 14.49 I believe. I ordered mine last week.
mjs
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| 599.34 | addition to note 31 | FRSBEE::ROLLA | | Mon Jan 26 1987 15:33 | 9 |
| Re:31
" I'm Down " Is on the BEATLES ROCK AND ROLL MUSIC album
" You know my name " is on the RARITIES album
Mike who's ROCK and ROLL music album has misteriously dissapeard
(poof)
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