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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
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124.0. "Cheapest CD Player Yet" by MOTHER::RHINE () Wed May 15 1985 23:28

For those looking to get into a CD player cheap, Service Merchandise is selling
the Magnavox 1041 for $197.92.  Sale ends June 16th.  
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124.1VIKING::MCNALL_1Thu May 16 1985 15:426
Does anyone know what the spec's are on the Magnavox 1041?

Have there been any test reports that might indicate what
deficiencies it might exhibit?

-ralph
124.2NISYSG::JOYCEThu May 16 1985 18:356
I haven't seen or heard the Magnavox 1041, but I picked up a Magnavox
1040 at Service Merchandise a few weeks ago. I don't have the specs here
but they appear to be very good. It uses a one laser pickup, 44k sampling
and digital filtering. I'm very happy with its performance.

Steve
124.3MOTHER::RHINEThu May 16 1985 22:011
The only spec. that was mentioned in the ad is THD .005%.
124.4LEAGLE::GOLDSTEINFri May 17 1985 04:2610
The Maganovox players are made by Philips of the Netherlands.
I have a second generation 303SL player which I have been running since Dec. &
it runs like a dream.

Because it's Philips, it does athings the "right" way, ie digital filters,
oversampling, etc/.

Go for it!

Rich Goldstein
124.5PYRITE::WEAVERFri May 17 1985 20:1117
From Audio's "Annual Equipment Directory", October 1984:

MAGNOVOX FD1040
Freq. Resp.: 20-20k +/- 0.3
Dynamic Range: 90db
S/N Ratio: 90db
Chann. Sep.: 90db
THD (1kHz): 0.004
Amp input load Impedence: 10kohms
Headphone output: none
Fixed line output level,
Top Loading,
Dimensions: 12.5"x12"x3.5"
List Price: $499.95
                        
						Hope that helps,
						-Dave
124.6TRIVIA::TABERTue May 21 1985 11:3124
Last night I went out and bought one of these little fellahs.  For less than
$200 it's not a bad machine.  It's a "no frills" disc player, but seems like
a safe way to try out the CD waters.  It clearly blows away a $200 turntable.

There is no remote control on the unit, but the panel controls allow you
to search or program up to 20 cuts in any order (no repeats allowed in the
program though...very strange.)  You have the option of repeating forever
or stopping at the end of the disc/program.

It's not a top-loader, but a front-loader.  It has one of those little slide-out
motorized drawers.  This means it doesn't need any headroom to speak of,
only that needed for cooling.

One thing that surprised me is that it doesn't have phono jacks on the back.
Instead, there is a wire coming out of a strain-reliefe that terminates in
two RCA plugs.  If anything happens to those plugs (or if you want a longer
cable) you've just become commodore of the Shit Creek Yacht Club.  A small
thing.

Other than that, it seems a fine little player.  I've never seen anything
drive my amp like that.  What great toys we mwke these days!  I love it.

						>>>==>PStJTT

124.7MANANA::DICKSONWed May 22 1985 14:223
phono jack extension cords are available.  And if the existing plugs
get damaged you just cut 'em off and put on new ones.  Available at
R*d** Sh*ck.
124.8REGINA::PAPPASThu May 23 1985 02:2329
I just picked up a Sony D-50 portable last week in Hong Kong for about 
$165.00 US.  At that price, I couldn't resist.  This has to be the 
cheapest CD player that I've seen yet (but I'm sure that someone will 
beat me soon).

The D-50 is identical to the D-5 except that the power supply is 
different.  This comes with a power supply that slides onto the back 
of the main unit and becomes an integral peice.  The power supply also 
has two RCA plugs so that the Y cable is not needed.  The power supply 
has a bottom plate which attaches to the flanged feet on the bottom of 
the main unit.  It also has a voltage selection switch.


        +---------------------------+               +----------+
        |                           |               |          |-----> AC
        |        Main Unit          |  <---------   | Power    |
        |                           |               | Supply   |O  RCA Jacks
        +---------------------------+               |          |
             ||                ||   ----------------------------               
            /  \              /  \ 
 

Although mine is the standard black,  I also saw them in bright red 
for those of you who are more bold.

I also bought the top of the line sony headphones there for less than 
$40.00.

Jim Pappas
124.9REX::GETTYSThu May 23 1985 19:515
I've also seen that unit (labeled D5 - not D50)) here at Markline.

	/s/	Bob

p.s. the price was in the ballpark of the D5
124.10CRVAX1::KAPLOWThu May 23 1985 21:5015
re: .8 

	What you have is a "grey market" unit. The D-50 does NOT carry a
US warranty, and you will NOT be able to get it serviced anywere in the
USA! I believe that it is also lacking FCC certification, so if it
somehow causes any interference with the neighbors TV, radio, etc. you
might find the FCC police at your door! As they say, let the sucker
beware! 

	I would be interested in comparisons between that unit and the
D-5, thou. If you ever DO need service, I know that the store in Chciago
that I got my D-5 from sent one of their people to a full week SONY
course on servicing the D-5, and you might be able to find someplace
other than SONY that will service it FOR A PRICE. For another $165, you
might just consider it a disposable unit. 
124.11REGINA::PAPPASMon May 27 1985 23:1810
Yes,  I realized that it came with a Hong Kong warrantee when I bought 
it.  For that reason, I tried it out in the store before I bought it.  
My group makes several trips a year to the Orient and I took that into 
consideration as far as getting service.

I'm not sure, but I belive that I would be able to get service for a 
fee here in the states but as you said, for $165.00 who cares.  Most 
shops charge you $100 to walk through their front door.

Jim Pappas
124.12VIKING::MCNALLTue May 28 1985 15:2212
I just received a D-5 "Deluxe" from Worldwide. It came with a D-50 power 
supply just like you described except that it isn't dual voltage.

The mail order price was $ 218 + 3% charge fee + 7% shipping & handling 
+ Tax , = $250+

They charge your card immediately, so if they don't have one in stock 
you might want to take that into consideration. They haven't been selling 
them over the counter because mail order has been constantly back 
ordered.

/ralph
124.13NONAME::MAHLERTue Jul 16 1985 15:378
Just got the same one in Japan for 130.00  -- Ha ha - beat that
]
I also have the battery carrying case which take 5 c-cells - for five
hours playing time -- might as well get the Nicads !

Have some Japanese disks if anyone is interested !!!
Mike (Andover)

124.14ORPHAN::LIONELTue Jul 16 1985 16:533
I just hope your D50 doesn't break - getting it serviced will be fun.
			Steve

124.15CADCAM::MAHLERTue Jul 16 1985 17:586
No way -- i bought mine (D-5 !!!!!) at a duty free shop from a friend of mine
and I have an international warranty that let's me get service at any SOny 
dealer here !

mike (Andover)

124.16'First Line' model anyone?BISTRO::KIRKDiamonds on the sole of my keyboardWed Aug 03 1988 13:357
    Has anyone ever heard of a 'First Line' CD player? It is apparently
    made in Japan, specifically for the French market. It has a
    remote-control unit, along with various other bells & whistles.
    It costs about 1200FF (~120 pounds~$204). Does this sound cheap?
    
    Richard
    (I know nothing about CDs.)
124.17Never heard of itQUARK::LIONELMay you live in interesting timesWed Aug 03 1988 21:216
    In the latest Digital Audio, there is a list of "all" CD players
    sold in the US.  There is no listing for a "First Line" brand, nor
    have I ever heard of it.  It may be a "store brand".  Note that
    just about ALL CD players are made in Japan.
    
    				Steve
124.18Any tips for/against cheapo players?BISTRO::KIRKDiamonds on the sole of my keyboardThu Aug 04 1988 05:435
    Thanks for the reply. What I should I watch out for? Are there any
    things to steer clear of with very cheap (atleast for France) CD
    players? This one seems to loaded with features, yet very cheap.
    
    Richard
124.19QUARK::LIONELMay you live in interesting timesSat Aug 06 1988 01:4716
    Unfortunately, there's nothing you can look at that will tell you
    whether a player is good or bad.  If confronted with a "no-name"
    player at an irresistable price, I would try it out - primarly
    observing the mechanical functions - does the drawer open and close
    smoothly, are there any harsh noises from the drive, etc.
    
    It is very hard to find a CD player that sounds BAD.  If the price
    is right and it has the features you want, and you are satisfied
    with the support you will get from the seller (warranty service,
    etc.) then go ahead.  But bear in mind that poor-quality players
    often break down soon after purchase.
    
    Personally, I would stick to a brand name that I know has a reputation
    for quality, even if it means spending a bit more.
    
    			Steve
124.20A faint jingeling noise can be heard...BISTRO::KIRKDiamonds on the sole of my keyboardMon Aug 08 1988 06:446
    Thanks for the advice. The only thing that seems a bit strange is
    that when you select a specific track, a faint "jingleling" noise
    can be heard from within the player. Does this mean anything to
    anyone?
    
    Richard