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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

295.0. "Denon DCD-1500" by NWD002::BROWNDA () Mon Mar 03 1986 14:57

    
     I was wondering if anyone out there had any wisdom about the Denon
    DCD-1500. Where it came to my attention was in the Pro-Audio review
    of CD players in Digital Audio. This player seems like an excellent
    value with outstanding specs and a reasonable price. Has anyone
    had any exposure to this model, be it good or bad? Because before
    I go out and buy it, it would be good to know if I'm buying wisely.
     Digital Audio took a review of 67 players and judged them on a
    composite of their specs such as:
     1) Frequency Response
     2) Dynamic Range
     3) Channel Seperation
     4) Type and number of D/A converters
     5) Output filter type
     
    Features:
    
     6) Programmability
     7) Indexing
     8) Remote Control
     9) Headphone Jack
    10) Weight
    
     Based on these criteria, they judged the 67 players and I'll reproduce
    the top 15; note the position of the 1500:
    
    	Rank	Player			Price
    ------------------------------------------------
    	1	Sony CDP 650ESD		1300
    	2	Denon DCD-1500		580
    	3	McIntosh MCD 7000	1400
    	4	Nakamichi OMS-7		1300
    	5	Kyocera	DA-910		1600
    	6	Sony CDP 620ES		950
    	7	ADS CD3			900
    	8	Sylvania FDD 304SL	600
    	9	B&O CDX			700
    	10	Sony CDP 520ES		600
    	11	Sony CDP 302		550
    	12	Pioneer PD 7010		460
    	13	NEC CD-705		750
    	14	Revox B225		1150
    	15	Technics SL-P3		600
    
     To me, one could deduce that the 1500 is an outstanding deal.
    
     Comments????  Advice????
    
                                       Dave Brown   
    
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295.1ZGOV01::CTTANMon Mar 03 1986 23:5820
    Have compared it with the Sony CDP-302 using the Digital Domain
    CD. On the track that produces only square waves, we were not able
    to distinguish any difference between the two sets. Thus, I can't
    say much about Denon's extra feature in it's digital filtering compared
    to the Sony CDP-302.
    
    When you match the output levels of both of these sets, it becomes
    very difficult to distinguish the difference between them.
    
    The features offered, coupled with the attractive price certainly
    makes it a good choice to buy.
    
    The only complaint I have is the the remote control keys and the
    track selection keys don't have a positive feel. 
                                                     
    The CD's used during the session includes Mountain Dance, On the
    Line, Friday night in San Francisco.
    
    
295.2Where are the deals?NWD002::BROWNDASat Mar 15 1986 14:598
      Thanks for the information. I have done more research and am now
    even more impressed with the 1500.
      Does anyone know where there are deals ( approx. wholesale ) on
    the 1500? Or for that matter on the Denon line? (Also looking for
    the Denon PMA 777.) I can get everything locally (Seattle) but I
    don't really want to find out later that I was ripped-off.
    
                                          Dave Brown
295.3Great hifi store in SeattleMILDEW::DEROSAJohn DeRosaSat Mar 29 1986 07:5430
    Dave,
    
    I don't know the extent of hifi enthusiasm or where you normally shop
    in Seattle.  But if you haven't checked them out, go to Magnolia HiFi
    on Roosevelt and NE 65th Street.  They are my first choice for good
    equipment (that I can afford, that is!) in the area.  Lots of good
    stuff look at, including the Denon CD that you are salivating over.
    
    Talk to Ross Benson if possible; he's real smart and I was VERY
    satisfied dealing with him when I purchased a couple of components
    recently.  Ross is very big on the Denon CD players and can tell you
    everything you'd ever want to know. 
   
    If you're interested, I can give you a detailed account of how I
    arrived at the purchase of my Denon CD player.  (should probably do
    that off-line, though.)  I am very happy I bought it.  (Unlike what
    people who buy Sonys sometimes have to do, I didn't also have to
    buy a humidifier, dehumidifier, blow dryer, air gun, or shotgun
    to kill my dog with.) (:-})
    
    As for price, Ross gave me an hour of his time plus tons of information
    and advice that I had never considered before.  My personal philosophy
    is that if I had walked out of there to get the cheapest deal possible,
    I would have been stealing.  If you are the bargaining type however,
    Ross would probably be receptive to haggling. 
    
    regards,
    
    jdr
    
295.4loading problem ?ZGOV01::CTTANSun Mar 30 1986 00:0710
    re: .3
    
    Have you ever encounter any problems of disc loading on this denon
    set? So far, I've not been able to load 2 of my discs on the
    Denon-1500. I'm not sure if disc warp is the cause or that the denon
    is a particularly sensitive player. The disc's that's refusing to
    load is Barbra Streisand's The Broadway Album and Steve Wonder's
    Songs in the key of life, disc #1.
    
    
295.5MILDEW::DEROSAJohn DeRosaSun Mar 30 1986 23:018
    re: .4:
    
    Nope.  I have 19 discs currently, from a range of labels.  I haven't
    had any indication that it's particularly sensitive.  It works like
    a dream.

    No Streisand or Wonder in collection, though..  Why not bring in your
    player to your dealer and have a "chat"? 
295.61500 AquisitionNWD002::BROWNDATue Apr 29 1986 02:3815
    
    
        Got my 1500 3 weeks ago and so far I am very much favorably
    impressed. The vast array of programability and features along with
    the excellent audio quality and remote control and mostly the price
    that goes with it is really quite impressive.
        The label that I am going to try to stay with as much as possible
    is TELARC seeing as how I have heard only extremely favorable reviews
    about the quality of both the performances that they solicit and
    the overall recording.
        I would really recommend the 1500 to anyone considering the
    purchase of a mid-priced but a high performing player. Good product!
    
    
    D. Brown
295.7No problems atollNWD002::BROWNDAFri May 30 1986 20:2210
    
    
     RE: .4
    
    
      Absolutely no loading or tracking problems or any problems at
    all! ( Great remote also .... )
    
    
     Dave Brown
295.8re:loadingCGOS01::BMS_CARLOWWayne CarlowThu Apr 23 1987 00:357
    
    I have about 85 cds and have had a few load problems amongst those.
    In those cases it appeared to be the way the disc was sitting when
    first dropped in; pressing the load button a second time cleared
    it. I think that having the eject/load/unload function on the remote
    control is a bit of overkill but overall an awfully nice machine.
    
295.9Another satisfied customerBAVIKI::GOODMichael GoodThu Apr 23 1987 16:376
    I've had my DCD-1500 for a few months now and am very happy with it. 
    I bought the player in part because of the positive reviews in this
    conference.  Now I need to upgrade other parts of my stereo system to
    the same level of quality. 
    
    Michael 
295.10I like the one I've gotNCADC1::PEREZBatches, we don't need no stinkin' batchesFri Apr 24 1987 00:2020
    I've had two other CD players (Onkyo DX-320, Magnavox CDB-650) and
    wound up with the DCD-1500.  I played the Magnavox and Denon side
    by side, and while both sound good, the Denon seemed "cleaner"
    sounding.  Admittedly this is totally subjective, but it works for
    me.  
    
    Also, the Denon played two scratched CD's that caused the Maggie
    to have fits or skipping and repeating.  

    And from a purely physical standpoint the Denon seemed better built.
    The CD platter moves smoothly and is solid, and the whole unit feels
    solid and tolerant of vibration. 
    
    I've got about 90 CD's and have run about another 50-60 borrowed
    ones through it without any problems.
    
    I know it sounds like a commercial, but I'm a whole lot happier
    with this unit than I was with either of the others.
    
    Dave      
295.11Nasty HabitsPUGET::BROWNDave BrownThu Jul 14 1988 20:5510
    
    	Since I picked up my '1500 a while ago, it has developed a nasty
    habit. After being on for about 10 minutes, it will not load a CD
    any more. One places a CD on the tray and loads the tray back into
    the machine; the machine doesn't even acknowledge that it has a
    CD in it.
         
    	Has anyone else had problems like this with their '1500?
    
    	DB
295.12One cure for a nasty habitSTKHLM::LIDENCDs look as good as they soundMon Jul 18 1988 07:1722