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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

156.0. "GLEN MILLER BAND CD" by OBIWAN::SCHORR () Wed Jul 31 1985 14:53

I just purchased the Glenn Miller Band CD "In The Digital Mood".  If
anyone is at all interested in the Glenn Miller Group I can Highly 
recommend this CD.  The Sound is unbelievable.  It is a new all
Digital remake not a analog tape digitized.  The sound especially
on the solo passages is superb.  The lack of background noise with
just the drummer on the left and the soloist usually on the right
must be heard.  If you have any interest in Glenn Miller do not 
hesitate to get this CD>

Warren
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156.1MANANA::DICKSONWed Jul 31 1985 16:143
I have it too.  The orchestra is not the modern Glenn Miller orchestra,
but they are using the original arrangements and the leader is the
leader of the modern GMO.
156.2TIGER::PRYORWed Jul 31 1985 18:373
Does this recording include any songs with vocals?  If so, is there any
attempt to mimic the original singer?  How closely does this re-make
recreate the sound of the original recordings?
156.3OBIWAN::SCHORRWed Jul 31 1985 21:056
YES THERE ARE VOCALS.  THE LINER NOTES ARE NOT VERY GOOD SO THEY ONLY MENTION 
MEL TORME AND OTHERS BUT DON'T TELL YOU WHAT SONG.  THE INTENTION WAS TO
GIVE YOU THE FEEL OF THE MUSIC LIVE ALTHOUGH THEY SAY THEY USED OLDER
MICS.  IT IS THE AS CLOSE TO A LIVE PERFORMANCE AS I HAVE HEARD FROM
A STERO SYSTEM. 

156.4NEXUS::COOPERWed Jul 31 1985 22:024
THE VOLCALS ARE NOT MEL TORME BUT AN EQUAL SOUND-ALIKE. ALSO IF YOU 
LIKED THIS CD DAVE BRUBECKS ALBUM " TIME OUT " WAS RELEASED FROM
THE ORIGINAL MASTER. IT IS AN ANOLG RECORDING BUT THE ORIGINAL 
COUMBIA RELEASE WAS SUPPURB. TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT..
156.5OBIWAN::SCHORRThu Aug 01 1985 12:132
I reread the liner notes and they mention Mel Torme as appearing
on the album.
156.6ASYLUM::STRAITThu Aug 01 1985 15:4513
	As stated in the liner notes, they attempted to get vocalists
	who sounded like the originals, but they also located two
	'ringers', Mel Torme and Julius LaRosa.  Mel is most noted
	for the whistling in 'Chatanooga Choo-Choo', and Julius was
	the singer who was 'black-balled' by Milton Berle.  My step-
	father (a musician himself) says that the performances are
	so close to the originals that they even play the mistakes.

	I personally love this particular recording and play it at
	least once a week.

	Jeff

156.7MANANA::DICKSONThu Aug 01 1985 16:002
TV trivia time:  Julius LaRosa was "black-balled" by Arthur Godfrey,
not Milton Berle.  Fired him right on the show.
156.8ASYLUM::STRAITFri Aug 02 1985 17:0812
re: .6 & .7

	You are right of course, I remembered correctly last night.
	Thanks for the correction.

... Point to Ponder ...

	Why is it that when you have a 50/50 shot at getting something
	right, you usually pick the wrong 50?

	Jeff

156.9MOTHER::RHINEMon Aug 05 1985 03:387
I too enjoy the Glenn Miller CD.  I have heard only scratchy old original
Miller recordings having been born at the end of WWII.  My parents, who heard
the original orchestra live a few times tell me that the arrangements are
true but that the Miller orchestra had a much mellower sound than the CD.
The CD has a very brassy and "technical" sound.  There is something to be
said about tube amps. and other obsolete audio technology that introduces
enough distortion to create a mellow sound!
156.10AMBER::KAEPPLEINMon Aug 05 1985 22:2416
RE: .9

... As opposed the new audio technology that introduces enough distortion
to create a harsh sound!  ...or it could be the producer who wanted a "hot"
sounding recording and boosted up the high-end.

Horay for your parents.  Despite the age of their ears and the decline of
high-end response that age brings, they recognized the fact that the CD sounded
more harsh/bright ( less "mellow" ) than the live performance.

I'm sorry to chime in and spoil your wonderful CD party, but I couldn't resist
the invitation.  Tubes and turntables are hardly "obsolete" if they sound
better and more correctly reproduce live music.

Mark

156.11MOTHER::RHINETue Aug 06 1985 02:106
RE .10

It looks like we are in violent agreement, except that I am willing to put
up with a little harshness to avoid the clicks and pops that I have found
on almost every record I have bought in 10 years.  Maybe the CD and a tube
amp are a good combination.
156.12AKOV68::BOYAJIANTue Aug 06 1985 04:213
And maybe an equalizer to take down the high end a bit?

--- jerry
156.13THORBY::MARRATue Aug 06 1985 17:471
   par for the course...
156.14AMBER::KAEPPLEINTue Aug 06 1985 21:4814
Instead of an eq, $20 worth of polypropelene capacitors would solve the problem.
In net.audio, someone replaced some of the lousy electrolytics in the analog
audio circuitry of a $200 Magnavox 1040/Phillips and got the smoothness of
a Mission.

To be fair to the CD, I have to say that most of the problems in its sound
are due to cheap audio circuit components that exist in mass market cd players
and receivers.

Good solid state electronics sounds as good as good tube electronics, so
the world doesn't need a cd player with tube analog circuits (but what a
concept!).  A tube amp fed by a CD won't sound better - GIGO.

Mark
156.15VIKING::MCNALLThu Aug 22 1985 19:257
Also,
	If a CD sounds harsh it's not the result of the digital 
technology the CD is based on.  Either the original source signal used 
to master the CD was harsh or subsequent playback electronics have made 
it harsh.

/ralph/pcsg-uia