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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

1105.0. "Music for Depressions" by JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYEN (isn't anything) Tue Jan 26 1993 17:19

What's for your favourite music for coping with being down? Here are my
suggestions:

- The second side of Bowie's 'Heroes', especially the heartbreaking
  saxophone bit.
- Jesus and Mary Chain's 'Darklands' with its rain theme, exemplified
  by 'April Skies'.
- A really serious downer can only be matched by Joy Division. Singles such
  as 'Atmosphere' and 'Love will tear us apart' are killers, but save the 
  second side of 'Closer' for when you hit rock bottom.


Rod 
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1105.1ARRODS::OHAGANBMisty Green and BlueTue Jan 26 1993 17:4321
> - The second side of Bowie's 'Heroes', especially the heartbreaking
>   saxophone bit.
    
    Are you sure it's not the aptly titled "Low" you're referring to Rod?
    I love that sax solo, you can almost float to it ('kin ell shut up
    lad!!!) It's certainly not the sort of thing you'll hear after 
    "Roll Out the Barrel" at a wedding. Marvellous though.  
    
>  second side of 'Closer' for when you hit rock bottom.

    I have this too. It's dreadful.  
    
    But the bestest song to relieve the doldrums has to be Louis 
    Armstrong's "Wonderful World". 
    
    barry. 
    
    
    
    
1105.2suicide?? - Nah!SEDOAS::DEMOPC::RupertIt's only two humans being.Tue Jan 26 1993 17:506
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut.

Nothing ever seems so bad after listening to this GREAT album.


Rupert
1105.3PEKING::COSSEYNWORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S BACKTue Jan 26 1993 17:567
    
    Anything by Paul Weller especially Down In the tube station at midnight
    wonderful song by the best singer/songwriter ever...
    
    Neil.
    
    
1105.4PEKING::DAVIESGTop of the leagueTue Jan 26 1993 19:026
    
    The Frank and Walters
    
    They write songs purely to cheer people up.
    
    GrEg...
1105.5FORTY2::BOYESMy karma ran over my dogma.Tue Jan 26 1993 19:048
"I fancy the girl in 4C but she doesn't know I exist" by Ride

"Bitter and Twisted" by the Wonder Stuff

"I'm going to lie down in my room with a full bottle of cider" 
by Laughing Lou Reed

and anything by Tori Amos
1105.6ARRODS::WHITEHEADJ46 days and counting...Tue Jan 26 1993 19:461
    "The Chauffeur" by Duran Duran.
1105.7A Large G & T and.....KERNEL::MACLEANA Pure Dear In a Wicked WorldTue Jan 26 1993 20:4610
    
    Surely It must be almost anything by  'Laughing' Lenny Cohen ?
    ....after a good wallow in that ,life seems positively,utterly
    and wonderfully attractive!!!!
    
    .....But it must be followed by something like KLF/White Room 
    Album at full volume or Utah Saints/Something Good to get the
    blood coursing through the veins again!!!
    
    Sandie.../
1105.8From the archives of oblivion...SAC::LANG_HButton up your overcoatTue Jan 26 1993 21:0416
    Hmm.....this one could run and run !!
    
    
    
    Pete Atkin             - Master of the Revels
    Pete Atkin             - Honky Tonk Train Blues
    Kinks                  - Village Green Preservation Society
    Gruppo Sportivo        - Beep Beep Love
    Wreckless Eric         - (I'd Go) The Whole Wide World
    Neil Young             - Like a Hurricane
    Frank Zappa            - Yo Mama
    
    To name but a few tune tappers that you can tap your tootsies too in
    troubled times.
    
    H
1105.9Obligatory pointer to hipper conferenceESGWST::RDAVISAssociated w/drugs,gangs & infantsTue Jan 26 1993 21:2775
1105.10WELCLU::HEDLEYLock up your wildebeest, it's the RCC!Wed Jan 27 1993 11:447
I find I can get a real downer from this lot...

Sisters of Mercy		First, Last and Always
Fields of the Nephilim		Earth Inferno, Elizium
Black Sabbath		
All About Eve
Pink Floyd			The Wall, Final Cut
1105.11KURMA::SWRIGHTWed Jan 27 1993 15:025
    Bauhaus  :: Bella Lugose's (Sp) Dead.
    
    
    Pass the razor..!!!!!!

1105.12Wot, no Smiths?ARRODS::OHAGANBMisty Green and BlueWed Jan 27 1993 15:311
    
1105.13JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYENisn't anythingWed Jan 27 1993 17:1612
So Ray's done it already and better - might have known. I'm glad the
rathole into cheerful songs was quickly ended, since really I'm talking
about music which reflects a severely non-optimal mood rather than music
which seeks to change it. Who wants a dance beat when they're down.

I too was wondering about the lack of the Smiths. 'Every day is just like
Sunday' would be a good starting point (or is that from the man solo?).
Of course the trouble with the Smiths is that there were always too many
words.


Rod
1105.14KRAKAR::WARWICKCan't you just... ?Wed Jan 27 1993 19:388
    
    The Smiths never were particularly depressing - most of their songs are
    pretty upbeat (although maybe not lyrically).
    
    "Leave me alone" by New Order from "Power Corruption and Lies" always
    does it for me.
    
    Trevor
1105.15PEKING::DAVIESGTop of the leagueWed Jan 27 1993 19:478
    
    Re.13;
    
    "Everyday is like sunday" Was by Morrissey on his own. And jolly
    depressing it is too.
    
    GrEg....
    
1105.16MovementBSS::STPALY::J_KUHNTILT: [..../] +10dbWed Jan 27 1993 21:261
    The Movement album by New Order. [ Thats why I bought it!]
1105.17AYOV11::SROBERTSONThu Jan 28 1993 11:213
    Slowdive are made for depressives but that doesn't meamn I don't like 
    them, some John Martyn tunes also - esp.Grace And Danger and One World.
    
1105.18WELCLU::GREENBDaydream NationThu Jan 28 1993 14:473
    Any Van der Graaf Generator, especially Godbluff.
    
    Bob
1105.19WOTVAX::GLYNNPYa bleedin' nosepickerThu Jan 28 1993 15:583
    
    For 'Girlfriend' type depressions, The Nine Inch Nails' Pretty Hate
    Machine is good.
1105.20More of the sameARRODS::DUTTONSThu Jan 28 1993 16:1568
First choice goes to anything by Michael Franks, Chick Corea or Keith Jarrett, 
who remind one just how wonderful one really is. 

And why not:

- W C Handy, "St Louis Blues", for that sinking feeling:
     I hate to see the evenin' sun go down

- Blind Lemon Jefferson, "Matchbox Blues"

- Bessie Smith doing "Trouble In Mind"

- Billie Holiday, especially when she plays ukelele and tap dances

- Charlie Parker, especially those endless re-takes when he's can't honk for 
  falling down

- Elvis, "Heartbreak Hotel" (for bottomless misery done by John Cale) or when
  there's trouble in the home, try "Jailhouse Rock":
     If you can't find a woman use a wooden chair ...

- Howlin' Wolf, "Killin' Floor"

- Patsy Cline, especially "Ain't That A Laugh" (the way she sings "HA HAAA... 
  Ain't that a laaaaaaauuugh") or  "Walkin' After Midnight":
     I go out walkin', after midnight, out in the moonlight, 
     just hopin' you may be 
     somewhere a walkin', in the moonlight, searchin' for me ..."  

- Otis Redding, "Dock Of The Bay" of course

- Buffy Sainte Marie, "Cod'ine":
     I feel like I'm  dyin' an' I WISH I was deeeeeeeaaaad ...
     If I live till tomorrow it'll be a long taaaaaaam
     an' I wheel and I fall and I'll die on cod'ine
     an' it's reeeal, and it's reaaaaall one more taaaaaaaaaam

- John Lee Hooker, "I Cover The Waterfront"

- Rolling Stones doing "Little Red Rooster"

- Julie London, "Cry me a River"

- Nina Simone singing "Strange Fruit"

- Velvet Underground, particularly "Heroin"

- Any German band

- For the Australians in the audience, Patsy Biscoe, or Sister Janet Mead doing 
  "The Lord's Prayer", or Johnny Young and the Young Talent Time Young Talent 
  Team doing "Close your eyes and I'll kiss you ..."

- Ian Dury, "Reasons To Be Cheerful" or "Manic Depression":
     Life is just a bloody rush
     a ruddy blush ...
     Life is just a hole full of soap
     a soul full of hope ...

- The Gun Club

- The Triffids:
     I packed my bags, left a note on the fridge
     then I drove off the edge of the Tarillup bridge...

- Kylie "Lucky Lucky Lucky" Minogue
 
- A bottle of Thunderbird and about four fifths of all classical music
1105.21Dancing at the Funeral PartyYUPPY::ASHLEYSMITHturn on, tune in, cop out..Thu Jan 28 1993 17:007
    
    Hmmm.. how about "Pornography" by The Cure (the track '100 years' in
    particular), a real barrel of laughs. Actually, the previous album to
    that was pretty depressing stuff too (can't remember what it was called
    - answers on a postcard).
    
    Andy
1105.22I'll ask Robert..YUPPY::ASHLEYSMITHturn on, tune in, cop out..Thu Jan 28 1993 17:087
    Thinking about it, I wonder if its possible to put Chelsea's current 
    form to music.
    
    
    
    
    
1105.23AYOV11::SROBERTSONThu Jan 28 1993 18:451
    RE- .21  Would that be Faith?
1105.24Middle age perversions..MIACT::RANKINEThu Jan 28 1993 20:3119
    
    I used to use the Smith a lot when I was down, to pick me up....
    
    The theory was while things for me might have been bad, it sure was
    good to know that someother poor sod had it worse than me.
    
    recently I find it very uplifting to delve into my collection and play
    something that I havent played for years, as nostalgia can be a bit of
    a pick me up.
    
    Im working away from home at the moment and recently bought a pair of
    speakers for my Walkman...there no better way of recharging the
    batteries than a long soak in a hot bath with the Cocteau
    Twins..partiularly 'Heaven or Las Vegas' or Philip Glass 'Glassworks'.
    
    A pat on the back for the man who mentioned Wreckless Eric a few notes
    ago....
    
    Paul
1105.25haven't we seen this topic before?? (rad_rad)SWAM2::BERZER_VIDo you know the meaning of DUH?Thu Jan 28 1993 23:115
    Nick Drake
    Patsy Cline
    Joy Division
    
    _Vic
1105.26SAC::LETCHER_PBargain basement BritainFri Jan 29 1993 10:308
    I was gonna mention Faith, Pornography and Charlotte Sometimes by the
    Cure, and the first Banshees album and First and Last and Always by the
    Sisters of Mercy.
    
    Neither the Smiths nor the JAMC have ever succeeded in sounding
    depressing to me. I'm that kind of guy.
    
    Piers
1105.27And here is that musicJURA::PELAZ::MACFADYENisn't anythingFri Jan 29 1993 12:0627
1105.28a few tipsZUOPCS::CHAOT::WIEDLERthey could never be blueFri Jan 29 1993 12:2915
When you are depressed...

...listen to The Cure's "Pornography" if you want to turn your depression 
into an even deeper one. (I gave this album away.)

...listen to The Cure "Faith" if you want to turn your depression into 
melancholy. (Still their best album.)

...listen to the Smiths if you want to turn your depression into a smile. (I 
own virtually all their albums)

...listen to "The Beautiful South" if you want to turn your depression into 
a laugh. (I own all their albums.)

FeliX   ;-)
1105.29Cars and Girls. ARRODS::OHAGANBMisty Green and BlueFri Jan 29 1993 15:445
    Not as left of centre as some in here but Broocie's "Racing in 
    the Streets" sure is a soundtrack as good as any for dem
    moments of depression. 
    
    barry.
1105.30HPSRAD::ARTHURWhy think? Try .Fri Jan 29 1993 19:458
One of my favorite songs which no one has mentioned is (the?) "Disease" by
Echo and The Bunnymen. Their whole 2nd album is pretty depressing.

Some of the Chameleons can also be pretty down.

Give me "Decades" by Joy Division anytime though!

Ed
1105.31Take a pilXSTACY::PATTISONForce the hand of chanceFri Jan 29 1993 20:496
I suppose it depends if you want to be cheered up or not. Anyway..
my choice would be PIL's first album, turned up loud enough to
annoy anyone in the adjoining room, naturally.

Dave
1105.32Melancholy McCullochSWAM2::BERZER_VIDo you know the meaning of DUH?Fri Jan 29 1993 21:0011
    >One of my favorite songs which no one has mentioned is (the?)
    >"Disease" by Echo and The Bunnymen. Their whole 2nd album is pretty 
    >depressing.
    
    AH, Yes. I used to use this one a lot for that purpose.  Early Bunnymen
    were great for depression.  (Please don't try to cheer me up!)  Reminds
    me of high school.
    
    -Vicki
    
    Also: later Japan
1105.33grimWOTVAX::FIDDLERMAll my time in hell ispent with youMon Feb 01 1993 12:375
    I always find the Smiths totally uplifting.  For depression, side
    two of Closer., and Nine Million Rainy Days by JAMC.  Tom Waits also
    can tickle the misery bone.
    
    Mikef
1105.34DMAYOU18::MRENNISONFree the .... nope can't think of any more.Wed Feb 03 1993 14:215
    
    "Blasphemous Rumours" by Depeche Mode. Fairly depressing huh ?
    
    Mark
    
1105.35yeah, and add some of The Blue Nile's stuff tooAYOV14::DROBBYou can't lay a patch by computer designThu Feb 04 1993 12:567
    Surprised no one's mentioned Lou Reed's meisterpiece - the awesomely
    bleak "Berlin" from 1973.  Also, Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of The Moon"
    is hardly the ultimate party-party album, is it?  Oh, and The The's
    "Soul Mining" is another real downer, more for the incredibly 'down'
    lyrics, than the actual music itself.
    
    - Dougie
1105.36How about Reel to Reel Cacophany?ARRODS::OHAGANBHail Freedonia!Thu Feb 04 1993 13:198
    "Berlin" hardly ever gets played these days. I find "The Kids"
     just too much. I believe that the sounds of children crying 
     in the song were arranged by the producer (Ezrin?). Legend
     has it that he brought home a tape recorder, locked his two
     children in their bedroom and told them their mother had left
     and was'nt coming back. 'stard.
    
     barry.     
1105.37TRUCKS::WARDRFri Feb 05 1993 13:526
    RE-1: The second SM album (the blue one) is one of the gloomiest I've
    ever heard - guaranteed depression
    
    RE-2: Are you the stray PTFC supporter from BALZAC::FOOTBALL ?&^?
    
    Ray
1105.38Angry music.AYOV16::SROBERTSONFri Feb 05 1993 15:465
    How about music for different moods?
    
    I like "angry" music esp. if I'm drinking.
    
    Henry Rollins,Nirvana ect.
1105.39Killie furra cup!!!AYOV17::DROBBHere at the dude ranch above the seaMon Feb 08 1993 13:214
    Re. .37 - sorry Ray, no PTFC interest here.  Perhaps you're thinking of
    Dougie Nisbet?
    
    - Dougie (Robb)
1105.40My Dedalus to your Bloom was such a perfect twitESGWST::RDAVISAssociated w/drugs,gangs & infantsWed Feb 10 1993 00:098
    "Berlin" always gave me the giggles.  So I only listened to it when I
    felt like giggling.
    
    Then "The Blue Mask" came out and it also made me giggle, especially
    the song about Delmore Schwartz, and it turned out I really didn't need
    more than one gigglesome album by Lou Reed.
    
    Ray
1105.41What no Nick Cave?CLARID::CHARLESThu Feb 11 1993 14:519
    
    If you want to be really depressed....
    
    Anything by Nick Cave.... particularly "Kicking against the Pricks" 
    
    - I'm allowed to say it - he took the title from a piece in the Bible 
    anyway.
    
    Elaine.
1105.42VAXWRK::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsThu Feb 18 1993 22:435
    The live version of Bad by U2.  One morning I played it 10 times in a
    row.
    
    Lorna
    
1105.43"Failure" by the SwansFUNYET::ANDERSONImagine whirled peasThu Feb 18 1993 23:120
1105.44ARRODS::WHITEHEADJWas there a fifth daughter?Mon Feb 22 1993 12:021
    Death's Diary by Marc Almond. 
1105.45"Bad" liveUPROAR::PLOWMANDCall your motherMon Feb 22 1993 17:0214
    
    
    Re: 1105.42
    
    >>The live version of Bad by U2.  One morning I played it 10 times in
    >>a row.
    
    >>Lorna
    
    SECONDED!!
    
    Debs.
    
    
1105.46EMC2::ANDERSON_ROnly the young die youngWed Apr 21 1993 12:203
John Cales Heartbreak Hotel

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1105.47Depression DubAYOV11::SROBERTSONWed Apr 21 1993 12:332
    
    	Linton Kwesi Johnson - New Crass Masakah {the new cross massacare}