Conference marvin::uk_music

    Yawn! Talk about going over old ground again. Last time you raised this
    one, it got bogged down in discussions around homophobia and ended up
    being write-locked after the abuse level started to rise. Why not get
    drunk with some friends - you do have friends, don't you :^) - and ask
    them. I'm sure they'll give you the answer you're looking for.
    
    Balders

re .0

Maybe the question should be;

"Why are you so obsessed with Erasure?"

I assume you were knocked back by one of them, or something.  If you look at 
other band notes, there are comments both for and against the bands (see Take 
That, for example).  A topic like this is completely pointless.

    Here, here.
    
    dickie.

re .0

Would the answer be..... because they are.

Stuart

I don't think Erasure are particularly bad, they've produced some pretty
good songs.  Can't stand 'em myself, though.

Chris.

    Sorry guys,  I was a bit bored whilst chewing on my vegeburger at lunch
    time today so I thought I'd just start an argument.  Guess it didn't
    work.
    
    Balders,  you're probably right about my own recent experience.  I
    guess that deeply routed in my sub conscious I have immense amounts of
    jealousy.  
    
    Forget I mentioned it.  Better still set this topic no write!
    
    lots of love and kisses
    
    Nigel "I once played and wrote songs for Morgans who will probably go
    on to be one of the most influencial bands in history,  leaving me to
    be a pathetic shell of the once musical giant that I may never have
    become!!! (Or alternatively they could achieve nothing what soever and
    I can feel smug within myself saying that if we were still as one we
    could have gone on to take over the world)"  B
    

    I often feel insecure whilst eating vegeburgers also.  hmmm...
    
    mikef

Maybe the solution is to eat meat.  Eat animals; they're good for your mind.

Helpfully,
m.

    Tell you what - I'll rise to the bait and defend both veggie burgers
    and Erasure.
    
    Since I'm a raving veggie and have been for ohh, nigh on 9 years now -
    long live veggie burgers - they're my saviour.  I don't ask for much in
    life.
    
    And secondly, I happen to like Erasure, they're a damn good group who
    produce pretty groovy music.  Saw them years ago at the Docklands and
    they put on a brilliant stage show - probably the best I've seen (and I
    have seen quite a few varying groups play live).  BTW  the Rolling
    Stones were the worst - I only went as I was given a ticket.
    
    To add to this conference - Jimmy Sommerville was good at the Oxford
    Oppollo (maybe I just like raving woofters!)

>    Tell you what - I'll rise to the bait and defend both veggie burgers
>    and Erasure.
    
I dislike both.  I'm happy to defend the latter however, as I think they're
pretty good at what they do, and appear to be one of the better pop groups
to have appeared in years.  But veggieburgers are a different matter, they
taste disgusting and are a complete waste of space anyway as other animals
were put on this Earth to be eaten, and very tasty they are too.

Chris.

    The veg burgers I eat are very tasty thank you.  Animals put on this
    earth to be eaten?  Almost as big a load of b******s as Erasure...
    
    miukef

Nah, animals taste nicer than beans.

    
    Reminds me of a beer festival at the old Sheffield Poly building - I
    was with a veggie friend at the time, so she said "oh, there's the
    burger van".  Chris being slightly pished-up at the time and not in
    control of his hearing aid wandered over there and said "got a double 
    cheese-burger please mate".  I almost had to dive for cover as the
    bloke yelled back - "Sorry, we only sell vegan produce".
    
    Ooops.
    
    C.

    Re .13 - since when are veggie burgers made of beans???  I think
    they're called bean-burgers!!  If you had a clue what you were talking
    about then you'd drop in words like soya, quorn and tofu.  Ever tasted
    the cheatin' ham?  Tastes like luncheon meat, so much so my meat-eating
    friends (including the cat) can't taste the difference!
    
    Liz (who can vaguely remember the taste of meat (I think!))

    re .15
    
    Doesn't soya come from soya beans? And isn't tofu bean curd? Not that
    I'm trying to wind you up or anything :^)
    
    Balders

    re-1
    
    Never trust an ex-veggie...
    
    mikef
    
    

    re .17
    
    Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Just remember; you can run, but you can't hide.
    
    Balders

    
    re:.18
    
    'Specially if you're in a curry house.
    
    Chris.

    Or in Clives car....
    
    
    mikef

         <<< Note 1312.15 by CHEFS::ELKINL "Jumping Jack Flash Lass" >>>

    
>    Liz (who can vaguely remember the taste of meat (I think!))

Quick...someone call the Double Entendre Police before word of this
note gets out.



Stuart ( Another non-meat eater )

I've eaten various things such as soya, tofu etc as well as the frankly
horrible nut cutlet and aubergine concoctions, and I still say you can't
beat a bit of dead animal for taste!

On a serious note, I'd be rather concerned about subjecting animals
which are primarily carnivores to vegitarian fayre, it won't do their
health any good in the long term.

Chris.

    Marvelous,  I love it when an 'arguement' breaks out.
    
    I must start these "why are ********crap? notes more often.
    
    P.S. I'm not a veggie!  Far from it,  I'm the sort of chap who orders
    veal in a Restaurant,  takes one bite before saying "That is delicious, 
    but I couldn't eat another thing."
    
    
    Nigel B
    

    I've just come back from a weekend visiting relations in Yorkshire. 
    Yesterday morning I accompanied my uncle collecting 12 bulls from a
    farm and delivering them to the abbatoir (you can't talk about
    something until you've seen it yourself).  Perhaps those meat eating
    colleagues of ours should do the same as it just re-inforced my views
    on being a vegetarian.
    
    How many of you see what happens to the "meat" before it lands on your
    plate?  I don't think you could stomach it once you've been to a
    slaughterhouse.

re .24

I don't particularly care.  If there's a dead bird in my oven (bird as in 
poultry...), then I'm quite happy.  As long as it's not infected with anything, 
I'll eat it.  Tastes lovely.  

    re .24
    
    >How many of you see what happens to the "meat" before it lands on your
    >plate?  I don't think you could stomach it once you've been to a
    >slaughterhouse.
    
    The biggest problem you face with this argument is how many people
    *care*? Not many, I would wager. Most "meat eating" people agree with
    Matt. Just so long as its not diseased, its ok.
    
    Stuart

    and what does this have to do with Erasure??? and wot he said as well
    .26..
    
    Andrea

Time out folks, this is UK_MUSIC, if you want to whinge about politics,
football, religion, ethics etc there is a huge morass of other conferences
a dedicated to such bellyaching.

Guy

Indeed.  Aren't Erasure lovely...

    Dear Vince,
    OoOh you are so good,
    So absolutely huge,
    Gosh,  We're all really impressed down here,
    I can tell you!!!!!
    
    

    It's ironic how a discussion on meat eating should appear in an Erasure
    note.
    
    
    CHARLEY

    Guy,
    
    > name of his girlfriend (Pamela Anderson) tattooed on his sensitive bits.
    
    According to reports at the weekend, he only got as far as "PA"
    
    Stuart

    I thought it was P/
    
    
    CHARLEY.

Ran out of room?