Conference marvin::uk_music

    Spice Girls.
    
    I've got all their albums.
    
    This has got to be the most exciting musical development of the 90's so
    far. Not only can they sing and dance at the same time, but if you want
    to be their lover you've got to "zigga-zig-ah" with all five of 'em
    (presumably at the same time)f.
    
    Enough said?
    
    Guy

    
    as long as they're not going to sing whilst "zigga-zig-ah" ing, then I
    think we could come to some arrangement %^)
    
    G.

    My mums next door neighbour has three teenage daughters - I went home
    for a few days a couple of weeks ago and was treated to non stop
    renditions of the Spice Girls, all three versions from the CD.  This is
    in addition to it being constantly on the BOX.  So it's not just
    young impressionable boys who are interested...  strange as it may seem. 
    
    They are a bit crap though...

    Andrea

    G, 
    
    Are you on about *all* Jungle music? I agree too a small degree that it
    can sound like a complete pile of random breakbeats but when programmed
    well/intelligently you can end up with some good choons i.e "Junglist"
    - Tribe of Ishacaar.
    
    
    
    			Stretch.

    
    Oh, I agree the toons can be quite interesting, but why do they bother
    with lyrics & vocals ? leave it out and save on the wages I say %^)
    
    G.

    Check out the Goldie album.  I agree that Jungle I hear in the charts
    is mainly cr*p.  But then I hardly ever hear the charts...
    
    mikef

    
    Re: C&W
    
    Any gendre that can produce titles like ...
    
    "Walk out backwards when yer leavin so it will look like yer comin in"
    
    or
    
    "I've got tears in my ears from cryin on my pillow over you" 
    
   or even
    
    "Get yer tongue outta my mouth cos I'm kissing you goodbye"
    
  
  ....  has got a certain "je ne sais que" but I dont know what it is.
    
    Des

    Phil Collins.  I haven't heard from him for a while, but he's great -
    SO THERE!
    
    Frances
    

    Mr Panes! I think we need your input here.

         <<< Note 1360.9 by CHEFS::CROSSA "Nuns! Reverse! Reverse! " >>>

>    Mr Panes! I think we need your input here.


Later...duty calls.


Stuart

 mmm .. Phil Collins. Lets start with the man himself and then we'll go onto
his music.

In a previous incarnation I had the "privilege" of working with the 
great man. He possessed a phenomenally huge ego and made arrogance an 
art form.  But what about Philly the actor???? More wooden than
Pinochio. Phil the philanthropist. Only a git of the highest order would
pull a stunt like playing Live Aid in London then flying Concorde to
the States. Nice touch for the starving , eh Phil??

Apparently Phil is a good drummer ( drummer - a person who hangs around
with musicians) - thats maybe but his music is the crassest of the crass.
His caterwauling with Genesis was bad enough, but his dilettante attempts
at pop with hipblack musicians were so shallow even Kate Moss couldn't drown 
in them. As to his plaintiff love songs and songs about the homeless...gag.
Do us a favour Phil, have a stable relationship and spare us your pap pop
angst.


So what redeeming features has he got? 

Stuart

    Stuart,
    
    have you ever considered a career in music journalism ? That note was
    better than anything I've read in the press about Phil Collins ! 
    
    I agree totally BTW %^)
    Graham 
    

    re .11
    
    This is wonderful, I couldn't have put my hatred of Phil Collins any
    better than this. The man is detesable in the extreme.
    
    Who can the forget the magical moment when he actively canvassed for
    the Tories, "I'll leave the country if Labour get in", they didn't,
    but, he still left the country (pity not this mortal coil).
    
    Or, in the wonderful Genesis rockumentry (if you like!), when our Phil
    starts going on about how much he ALWAYS HATED progressive rock and
    hippies and how he was ALWAYS INTO soul music. Seeing as it was
    progressive rock fans who made Genesis and therefore Mr.Collins, its 
    fitting that years later he should turn round and say a big "f*ck you" to
    the people he owes everything too. He meant it, maaan!
    
    Its nice that some other people have seen through this obnoxious little
    runt. Lets hope he never records another note.
    
    Guy

    Even if he *does* record another record, it'll be the same old crap
    about leaving his wife....
    
    Not one for the motorway....

    True, the man is a talentless ar*e wipe, who desrves shagging with an
    old coat hanger.
    
    Revenge

  <<< Note 1360.14 by WOTVAX::DAVIESG "I had too much to dream last night" >>>
                        -< Phil Collins MUST die, now! >-
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     A bit extreme, and also a double edged sword, people might
     play even more of his tosh.


     apart from that, I congratulate you on your objective, and well
     balanced notes ( and those of others ). Our survey confirms what
     I have always believed...i.e. he is a weasel-faced, talentless, 
     uninspiring waste of radio/hi-fi space.

     Stuart

    Well, hush my mouth!  I didn't realise there was so much hatred of our
    Phil out there!  I have read what you all have to say and will now
    retreat into a corner with my collection of Genesis and Phil albums and
    say no more!  Surely somebody, other than me, like's the man???
    
    Anyone???
    

    >> Surely somebody, other than me, like's the man???
       
    About 10 gazillion other idiots with equally poor taste.
    
    Phil Gill.           

    
    Hold on a min ! I didn't say there was anything wrong with Genesis...
    not until Steve Hackett left anyway.
    
    G.

    OK, G,
    
    I do not like Genesis - Gabriel, Hackett, Collins, whoever
    
    Not only did it spawn Collins' solo career but it also threw up (good
    choice of words) Mike and The Mechanics!!!! Mr Gabriel I can just about
    stand due to his world music studios and varied singles output.
    
    
    			Stretch.

    Excellent - I'm out for a few days and loads of Phil Collins slagging!
    
    Can we start on Alanis Morrisette now?
    
    mikef