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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

943.0. "OMD" by XNOGOV::CHAPPIN () Thu Nov 28 1991 15:29

       I haven't seen any notes about OMD (Orchestral Manoeuvres in the
    Dark) around here, so point me in the right direction if one DOES
    exist!
       I discovered them properly after getting 'The Best of OMD' a year or
    two ago, and since then have got hold of most of their albums (I
    think). I saw them in concert in Aberdeen (!) a few weeks ago, and they
    were absolutely brilliant - blew away Simple Minds who I saw in Milton
    Keynes earlier this year right out of the water...
       Does anybody else out there like them even just a little? By now,
    everybody must of heard something from 'Sugar tax' (outstanding album -
    my favourite of 1991) and rekindled those old memories of Enola Gay,
    Joan Of Arc, If You Leave (Pretty in Pink show-stopper), Locomotion, So
    In Love, Secrets, Electricity, ........
    
       ...And can anybody give me a list of their albums in full ? Here's
    what I've got so far...
    
    Sugar Tax
    The Best Of OMD
    Dazzle Ships
    Architecture and Morality
    Pacific Age
    Organisation
    OMD
    Junk Culture
    
    
    Paul.    ( chappin@wessex.rdg.dec.com )
    
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943.1Yep, I'm a fan.NEWOA::SAXBYIs Bart Simpson the anti-Christ?Thu Nov 28 1991 15:5121
    
    Hello Paul,
    
    I've liked OMD since Enola Gay (Even before, I guess, with Red Frame,
    White light). I've never seen them live and I'm a bit suprised that 
    you thought they were better live than Simple Minds (although I think
    they're better on plastic) given their style of music, but I'm pleased
    to hear it.
    
    I thought Sugar Tax was a good album, but it isn't as good as The
    Pacific Age or Junk Culture (IMO). The early stuff is good too, but
    I definitely feel they are a group who progressed. I hope the split
    doesn't mean they'll (he'll?) stagnate, but I fear that may be just
    what happens.
    
    I suspect there's 1 album missing, but I can't think what it would be.
    I've got all their 'real' albums (except Dazzle Ships which I thought
    was TERRIBLE! I took it back to the shop and got my money back!!!!),
    so I'll have a look and see if there's another one not on your list.
    
    Mark
943.2Still a stupid name though...POBBLE::COTTONYet KnishThu Nov 28 1991 17:487
The missing album is `Crush', which in my opinion was when they really started
to pong.  I remember my foolish youth, being blinded by their blippy technology
sound, thinking `Messages' was the best song ever made.  Looking back I guess
some of it's not bad, `Junk Culture' was, well, charming I suppose...

Lee
943.3Better off deadXSTACY::NBLEHEINThu Nov 28 1991 17:569
    I liked "Souvenier" but whenever Andy McCluskey sang I cringed. They
    could have been so good but ended up like a second hand irrelevant
    Tears for Fears . The current stuff is more "poppy" than even SAW could
    manage. I read an interview with Andy McCluskey and he more or less
    said that commercial success was far more important to him than
    producing good music.
    
          Niall
    
943.4Let's play BattleshipsARRODS::OHAGANBHanging out your old Love LettersFri Nov 29 1991 14:3211
    Never been overly keen on this lot 'cept for the odd song. There's 
    one particular fave, although as usual the name escapes me, I think
    it came off "Pacific Age" (?) 1986 and had a chorus along the lines
    of "I wanna know (repeat several times) why...you make me wanna cry."
    Saw THEM get "blown out of the water" by Crowded House a few years back.
    Good double bill eh?
    
    Barry   
    
    
    
943.5I have this big mouth, it always contradicts me...XNOGOV::CHAPPINFri Nov 29 1991 15:015
    The song you're thinking of is "Forever Live and Die"...
    
    
    Does anybody know any background to the group ?
    
943.6digest this...HPSRAD::ARTHURWhy think? Try .Tue Dec 03 1991 22:2782
[reprinted]

Moving from electronic tape experiments to highly polished synthesizer pop
and beyond, Liverpudlians Andy McCluskey (bass/vocals/keyboards) and
sythesist Paul Humphreys (with other full-time members, including - very
significantly - a corporeal acoustic drummer) are among the most successful
practitioners of electro-pop, as first demonstrated by a delightful string
of singles. Abandoning their formula after two albums, however, OMD proved
capable of far more ambitious creations not tied to the apron strings of
technology.

"Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark" exhibits stylish electro-pop comparable
to Ultravox's music. Aided by Dalek I's Andy Gill, McCluskey and Humphreys
build the songs up from computer-generated rhythms and, while the album does
not create any new forms, it polishes the synthesizer song into a
full-bodied medium. Thanks to a knack for melodies and hooks, notable
attractions are the catchy "Electricity" and "Messages".

"Organisation" (which originally included an excellent bonus single of early
tape experiments and live tracks) introduces drummer Malcolm Holmes and
ethereal synthesizer techniques that suit the depressive subject matter of
"Enola Gay" and the like. It also pays attention to ensure variation in the
tunes, a problem that mars the first LP. With nods to John Foxx and David
Bowie, OMD overlays melodies to dramatic effect; the performances are
excellent.

"O.M.D." is an American compilation of songs from the two British albums,
including both catchy OMD standards, "Enola Gay" and "Electricity".
Recommended.

"Architecture & Morality" struggles with new techniques, and includes two
magnificent, ethereal hit singles: "Souvenir" and "Joan of Arc". OMD is
again experimenting with sound and much of the album sounds more
naturalistic than electronic. An intriguing and highly inventive use of the
technology.

The conceptual "Dazzle Ships" overreaches by a mile, succumbing to excessive
found-tape gimmickry in lieu of adequate songwriting. It does contain the
striking "Genetic Engineering" (which integrates a Speak and Spell toy to
make a point) and "Radio Waves", as well as some amazing sounds and a
powerful atomosphere to recommend it. Impressive but not satisfying.

"Junk Culture" is much stronger, pulling away further from sparkling pop
while retaining smart melodies in far denser and newly dance-based styles.
"Tesla Girls" employs scratch production to great effect while fixing on
science as a clever lyrical base (shades of Sparks); the rhythm-heavy
"Locomotion" and the mroe fanciful "Talking Loud and Clear" are likewise ace
tracks.

Despite its easygoing ambience and a shortage of really memorable songs,
"Crush" - OMD's least stylized, most mainstream album - isn't half bad. "So
in Love" and "Secret" are the obvious romantic singles, but the record has
more serious moments as well: the topical "88 Seconds in Greensboro", "Women
III" (an ambiguous consideration of feminism) and "Bloc Bloc Bloc", wherein
McCluskey sings some truly stupid lyrics with only a trace of embarassment.

OMD's international commercial breakthrough began with "Crush" but exploded
when "If You Leave", a dull ballad from the "Pretty in Pink" soundtrack,
became a Top 10 American single.

That song was thankfully omitted from OMD's subsequent albums, "The Pacific
Age", but so was anything that might have prevented the record from being
dull, ponderous and self-important. (Typical of the band's well-meaning
absurdity is "Southern", an instrumental bed over which excerpts of Martin
Luther King speeches are played.) OMD's expansion from a duo to a sextet -
the three recent additions play horns, guitars and more keyboards - has cost
the group focus and clarity, its singleminded creative vision. Except for
the smoothly contrived hit "(Forever) Live and Die" and the catchy "We Love
You", this dilettanish mess is less a set of songs than a meaningless
collection of sounds.

"The Best of OMD" is the ideal remedy for "The Pacific Age". Not only does
it concisely recapitulate the band's artistic development - via 14 A-sides,
from clever synth-based pop to well-realized audio experiments to
increasingly bland chart fodder - but it ends with a promisingly new pert
bonus single, "Dreaming". The CD adds two bonus tracks.

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Phew! That goes as far as 1989.

Ed (saw 'em in '81 and '84)
943.7RUTILE::LETCHERCall that lunch?Wed Dec 04 1991 10:434
    What's this man doing in Digital when he could so easily have been
    writing press releases?
    
    Piers
943.8RUTILE::MACFADYENStop, look, listen!Wed Dec 04 1991 11:371
Stop talking about yourself, P!
943.9HPSRAD::ARTHURWhy think? Try .Wed Dec 04 1991 17:283
Piers, I copied it. What's this man doing in Digital? Typing fast!

Ed
943.10Info about the early daysAYOU52::PAULCthat's just the name of the shop, dearieThu Dec 05 1991 10:4026
943.11OMD TriviaUBOHUB::CURRIE_IDyslexic snice brithFri Dec 06 1991 18:5713
    Two bits of OMD trivia:
    
    I believe in their early days, McCluskey and Humphreys were
    supplemented on stage by a tape recorder called Winston...
    
    I'm not a great OMD buff, but one of my favourite pieces by them is an
    instrumental called 'Navigation' which is the B-side of Maid of Orleans
    (The Waltz Joan Of Arc).  Like the A-side, it features the Mellotron
    strongly (the only time they used one?), but I don't think I've ever
    seen Navigation listed on an LP.
                                
    Ian
    
943.12Seen this somewhere before?BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDCDial B for BaldrickFri Dec 06 1991 19:556
    re .11
    
    Do I sense a reprise of the bout of Mellotron nostalgia which recently
    attacked this conference?
    
    Balders