Conference marvin::uk_music

    
    Oh come on! This is the funniest thing I've read in years!
    
    Oh no! If you read that first line backwards, underwater it sounds
    like 'Sorry my hamster is Lithunian' which is (as you obviously
    know) Czech slang for 'Please provide me with 400 kg of Heroin
    in return for my slightly used Skoda'.
    
    This IS a wind-up isn't it?
    
    Mark

    
    How did you persuade them to join you in the toilets?
    
    Ah, I know, they all thought you were holding satanic rites in there
    after listening to 'I'm in the mood for dancing' by the Nolans played
    backwards at 78rpm.
    
    Mark (Axe wielding drug wierdo!)
    

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	>>>	Louis Cipher.

	Anyone see "Angel Heart", with Mickey Rourke and Lisa Bonet?

        Rourke plays this private eye with a dark past, who gets hired by a
        guy called Louis Cipher (Robert de Niro, or somebody?) to find a
        "missing person". 

        Devil worship abounds in this seedy, evocative and occasionally
        erotic film.

	Anyway ... (don't read on if you want to see the film ...)

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	... turns out Louis Cipher is really a personification of Satan,
        and his name is a play on the name Lucifer (Satan's name).

        What does all of this tell us? Beats me. Personally, I'd take it
        with more than a grain of salt.

	   - Brian.

Another self-serving saviour out to protect the masses from themselves,
all the while garnering as much personal publicity as possible.
Chris Morris must be preparing to release a book on the subject 
(as though more rain forest need be destroyed so that the back-masking 
issue may be once again be flogged in print).  Does anyone think that Chris 
truly believes these paranoia induced delusions, or is he simply repeating 
accusations nearly as old as audio recording technology itself in an 
effort to boost his radio show ratings even higher?  The music industry 
is probably more shocked that a top DJ is spewing forth such stale allegations
well into the 1990's than anything else regarding his recent spate of publicity.
I guess some DJ's eventually do run out of original topics.  Even if Chris is
just joking, and I suspect that he is, this has all "been done" many times 
before.

Shawn
    

    Navan! Navan!

how do you play a record or CD backwards then?

does SAW etc sound better backwards (is that why they're so successful?)???


...trA

    In the base note it says that he now plays the records backwards
    so people can make up their minds.
    
    If he finds them so objectionable - why does he play them.
    
    If I was the bossman of GLR I would be looking for another DJ because
    this one obviously needs help.                               
                                                                 
    andy

    Well,
    	I'm glad to see you've all taken this so seriously !
    
    I'm surprized you consider this 'new' news. The Beatles started doing
    backwards macking ages ago. Some people take it very seriously (esp in
    the States) and tried to stop the sales of Albums. Some groups have
    been needlessly hounded (why do you think ELOs last album was called
    Secret Messages). 
    
    Some groups (normally in the heavy metal arena) put backwards messages
    on their albums for the 'shock' effect, hoping that somebody will
    try to ban it, so they can get free publicity. (like Venom).
    
    However, I'm surprised that no-body's mentioned the most famous example.
    Try playing Queens "Another one bites the dust" backwards. The chorus
    (repitions of the title line) *REALLY DOES* sound like "It's fun
    to smoke marojahna" (See I can't even spell it !)
    
    I still can't decide if this is an incredible coninsidence or the
    guy's having a joke.
    
    		Stuart P.

        I was looking for the note in MUSIC before responding here, but
    since the DIR command isn't working on the file I can't find the note
    without a great deal of work.  Anyway, there is a good series of notes
    in there about backwards masking and the like.
    
        My view is that there isn't any scientific proof of the affects of
    backwards masking that I know of.  The folks who said it existed in
    MUSIC failed to submit any studies that directly addressed backwards
    masking.  They did submit various results which could lead one to
    consider the possibility of backwards masking being understood by
    people.
    
        I find it all absurd considering that a lot of people have trouble
    understanding muddled intentional lyrics.  There's a whole topic on
    lyrics that people can't understand in MUSIC.
    
         If I ever run across the topic in MUSIC, I'll post the note number
    here.
    
    Tony

    BTW the note in MUSIC is 948 and it has 150 replies.
    
    Tony

    I can still remember when they tried to ban Puff the Magic Dragon
    because of its alleged references to drugs!!
    These people are paranoid. 
    
    When I was a kid, I tried playing my Mum's Sargeant Pepper LP
    backwards, because I read that there was a hidden message at the
    end. Well if there is, I didn't find it (I did find a belt round
    the ear from my Mum for messing up her record collection, though!!)

    How do you play a tape backwards?  I have a Stone Roses tracks that
    play backwards and I wanna hear it forwards.  Any ideas?
    
    
    matty

    Re .13

    Yet more trivia. The `hidden message' on the Pepper album was s'posed
    to be smt like "Paul is dead". And all those daytrippers thought that
    he was too. Maybe it should have been "Brian (Epstein) is dead".

    Not bad for a band who went on to name not one, but TWO, popes.

    - Tim

re 15. drop your tape player down the stairs...

mine played tapes that sounded backwards after I 'modified' my stereo in the 
above manner.


...art			%-)

    I think it's near the end of Strawberry Fields Forever, where it
    fades out and then in again, that you can hear a voice saying "I
    bury Paul". Also, I believe that Revolution No. 9, when played
    backwards, contains the cryptic, but obviously satanic message "F***
    your f***ing superman"
    
    Bob

Thanks Tim, we've got to keep them readers informed of recent shopping spoils,
haven't we?

Yes, it's true, I did purchase half of said album.  I quite like it, it's a good
record to annoy people with.  It's also the perfect antidote to anybody who
waffles on to you about how brilliant Lennon was.

As for the subject of hidden messages, people who find this kind of thing
fascinating should go out and buy a Renaldo and the Loaf album.  Most of their
stuff is played wrongways round.

As for The Stone Roses `Full Fathom Five', it is `Elephant Stone' recorded 
backwards, yet still this is NO IMPROVEMENT on the tune itself.

	Lee

    That Stone Roses backwards song is even more confusing because it
    has some forwards overdubs on it, and is a bit longer than the previous
    track. First time I heard the record, I thought it was just a coda
    to the original (forwards) number for a while - it do go on a bit,
    don't it.
    
    Re Renaldo and the Loaf; how are they related to the Residents -
    I have a Residents vid with a Loaf track on it, and was wondering
    if this was typical of their stuff?
    
    Bob
    
    p.s. if you really want to annoy and confuse the neighbours, you
    can have a lend of my Henry Cow lp

    Bob, I've got the Residents' "Video Voodoo" with  a few renaldo and the
    L. tracks. It sounds just as warped as The R's. They seem to cut
    melodies down to basics and build them back up again - in their own
    detuned way.

    Have you  got `(Exhausted from) The Act of Being Polite' ?

    Our advertisers could learn a few things from the videos. All they seem
    to do recently is put `classic' songs to some image of a male or female
    bimbo at a fax machine...and hey presto! the finger (which one ?) is on
    the ahhh...pulse of a generation. Sickening really.

    - Tim

    Tim, that's the vid I have, too, and is unfortunately all I have
    by either the Residents or Renaldo and the Loaf.
    
    I tell you, this stuff shows up Devo for the bunch of self-consciously
    'real wierd guys' they really were/are.
    
    Bob

    Apparently Judas Priest are about to be taken into the courts
    in America regarding one of their early albums which is supposed
    to contain hidden messages regarding committing suicide?!?!?!
    
    Two american boys made a suicide pact after hearing the LP one
    shot himself successfully (!?) but the other missed and lived
    for two years !!! but then died due to drugs etc.  Anyway his
    parents are claiming COMPENSATION on the basis that the album
    made their boys do what they did!!!
    
    Pathetic or what!!??  
    
    Mazzer
    
    

    Anyone who shoots himself because Judas Priest think its a good idea
    must have severe emotional problems, although after hearing "Take on
    all the World" I think I understand why!
    
    Dave

The song in question is called "Better by you, better than me", off an album 
called "Stained Class", which they claim contains the words "Do it, Do it" and
"deliver us", whatever that's supposed to mean. 

Don't all rush home to run your record players backwards, now.

Best quote of the article I read about this, in last Sunday's Independent, was
from the editor of Kerrang, who stated that "A lot of heavy-metal fans in
the States are frankly pretty dim". Of course he went on to add that
the readership of Kerrang consisted of "employed, well-educated males with
good family backgrounds". Au naturelement.

--patrick--

    Isn't 'Better By You, Better Than Me' an old Spooky Tooth song?
    
    If so, why didn't anyone commit suicide after *they* recorded it?
    
    
    Bob

re.><<< Note 607.27 by GALVIA::STEPHENS "Anything can happen in the next half-hour." >>>

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>The song in question is called "Better by you, better than me", off an album 
>called "Stained Class", which they claim contains the words "Do it, Do it" and
							      ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I would have thought that this would be more likely to promote claims from 
people who caught AIDS, slipped disks or died of exhaustion.....:-)

		rik...:-)

    
    Dont blame them! everytime I hear a Judest Priest record I feel like
    topping myself.
    
    Apprently, when these bozos shot themselves, they were drinking alcohol
    and smoking pot.
    
    -Tony

Well, if you haven't already heard, Judas Priest got off.

    damn!

    the last word on trashwords basking came from Robert Plant....
    
    
    sez he, if it really worked, every song would contain the
    subliminal message BUY MORE OF OUR RECORDS ( or something similar)...
    
    DougT