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| 481.1 | Ya-w-n | TMCUK2::MOXLEY | | Wed Aug 16 1989 20:29 | 1 |
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| 481.2 | A recommendation | YIPPEE::BUXTON | Steve Buxton - EAITG Valbonne | Wed Aug 16 1989 21:24 | 9 |
| For anybody who agrees with .0 with the exception of the "what a
singer" part (surely even his biggest fan wouldn't say he can sing ?) I
would thoroughly recommend Jennifer Warnes' album "Old Blue Raincoat".
These are all Cohen songs (except one which was written by JW) but sung
and produced beautifully.
- Steve B.
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| 481.3 | My Man All the Way | AYOV27::SSMITH | | Wed Aug 16 1989 22:07 | 16 |
| You must be kidding, Cohen's voice is fantastic. There is really no
comparison with JW using his material.
Her voice, is not powerful enough for LC's magnificent music/lyrics
and the songs are all disgracefully over produced.
Are you only going by LC's voice on 'I'm Your Man'. Certainly, up
to this LP, it wasn't quite so deep. In his early stuff it is
actually quite normal.
Scott.
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| 481.4 | Inexplicable-his records sell well | ASABET::MCLAUGHLIN | | Thu Aug 17 1989 01:28 | 13 |
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I agree with Steve, Leonard Cohen is not a singer in the true sense.
His talksong presentation leaves me cold. Cohen, along with his
contemporaries: Burt Bacharach, Paul Williams, Anthony Newley, Sonny
Bono, et al, is an accomplished songwriter who, IMO, would serve the
general public best by leaving the microphone work to gifted song
interpretors. However, I realize that if I could earn a fraction of
the money that they do by performing self-penned material (if I had
any), I would be willing to burp my own songs! The sheer attention
and ego gratification must be a thrill too.
Shawn
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| 481.5 | Gimme a break 8-) 8-) ! | BAHTAT::SALLITT | Dave - @RKG & ICI, 0642432193 | Mon Aug 21 1989 15:49 | 17 |
| LC in the same bracket as Bacharach, Paul Williams? Come on. Excellent
tunesmiths that they are, they are in a different league. Cohen
is a *poet* whose poems are set to his music; that isn't the same
as writing a popular song. If we must have a parallel, I would say
Paul Simon would be more appropriate.
I've heard JW's and LC's versions of Famous Blue Raincoat; whereas
JW sings it well it lacks the melancholy that Cohen injects into
it, as he does with all his early stuff. Listen to Chelsea Hotel,
or anything else from that period, and you'll realise that even
Morrisey can't catch Cohen when it comes to being introspective.
Also you need to understand the contexts of Cohen's songs to appreciate
them. When you do you'll realise that cover versions are superfluous,
trivial even. Try a bit harder and you'll find it worthwhile.
Dave
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| 481.6 | Give him a break he's a Canadian......... | RTOEU::RDELANEY | Adam 'ad 'em....... | Wed Aug 23 1989 18:24 | 4 |
| Saw him here last year and was impressed. I like the album. See
20.11
- Rockin Robin.........
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| 481.7 | Pale Imitations... | CLARID::MCNEILL | | Fri Mar 15 1991 19:03 | 8 |
| A bit late maybe, but I agree entirely that only Cohen can interpret
Cohen as Cohen, and not as someone else.
That is the mark of a true poet/musician.
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| 481.8 | Reminds me of the time back in '75... | CLADA::MEAGHER | These are the hands of a tired man | Fri Mar 15 1991 21:14 | 13 |
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RE Jennifer Warnes singing Cohen's songs:
I was looking at a TV program, must be a year ago now, in which
Jennifer Warnes was being interviewed. Just as she said something along
the lines of "Well, I like singing Leonard's songs as they mean a lot to
me. I feel that I can only sing something that has a definite message that
I can relate to". I was so disgusted (I've heard her murder FBR) that I had
to change channels. What song was playing on the other channel? "I've had
the time of my life" or whatever the drasted thing is called. Luckily, I
saw the funny side.
-Brian.
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