Conference marvin::uk_music

One correction  about  the previous note, The Glove was a Robert Smith/Steve
Severin collaboration.

I've also got a ? about 'Three Imaginary Boys' (released as 'Boys Don't Cry'
here  in the STATES). I just recently traded in the album for the CD and was
quite surprised to find out not all the album tracks are on the CD.

Here's what I have:

	RECORD (had)				CD

1.	Jumpin Someone Else's Train		Boys Don't Cry
	Boys Don't Cry				Plastic Passion
	Plastic Passion				10.15 Saturday Night
	10:15 Saturday Night			Accuracy
	Accuracy				So What 	*
	Object 		*			Jumping Someone Else's Train
	Subway Song 				Subway Song
2.	Killing an Arab				Killing an Arab
	Fire in Cairo				Fire in Cairo
	Another Day				Another Day
	Grinding Halt				Grinding Halt
	World War	*			Three Imaginary Boys
	Three Imaginary Boys

	(*'s are differences - besides order changes)


My question  is  what  are  the  tracks on the U.K. releases of album and CD
respectively.

Thanx,
Ed

    That "glove" lp is called Blue Sunshine, and "Like an Animal" was
    quite a big hit (Top 30) in the UK when it came out.
    
    The 'links' between each track are credited to 'the man from nowhere',
    and if they had been expanded, would have made for another interesting
    record.
    
    Bob

    
    Boys Don't Cry + 3 Imaginary Boys.
    
    Here in England they are two different albums though most of the tracks
    are the same.  I have seen a couple of different verions of the `Boys'
    CD, one with the same listing as the album and the other one previously
    mentioned.  I'm pretty sure that `Imaginary' isn't on CD at all as
    there are only a few new tracks on that album.  Shame really, as some
    of those songs like `Meathook' and their cover of old Jimi's `Foxy
    Lady' are quite good.
    
    	Lee.
    

    I'd be quite interested in hearing about what the CuRe are up to
    these days. Anyword of a new album comming out by the cUrE, or 
    whether Robert Smith is letting his hair grow? Give me trivia...
           
    In a recent issue of SPIN magazine it said  there were a 11 or
    12 votes for Smith as a write-in candidate for President of the
    United States during the past presidential elections.
    
    -Arthur

    
    RE: -1
    
    I was starting to think the very same; not much has been heard of
    them for quite a while, and I would think that a new album would
    be in the offing soon. For me "Kiss Me .." was a great studio effort,
    and one of their most diverse so far.
    
    David.
    

    Re: past few...
    
    The Cure are due to play here in the S. of France on May 16. The
    publicity blurb says a new album is due end of April. 

    Yup, I read that the album comes out in may, and that they are planning
    to do some large outdoor shows in the UK this summer.
    
    Mike
    
    PS Hi ED !!! 

Hi Mike (et al),

Rumors over here are that the new Cure album won't be "poppy trash"
but like the stuff that they did 4+ years ago...my sources have been
dependable in the past.

Ed

    Hi, 
    I'm a great Cure-fan since 1980. Here are my votes for their albums
    (which are avaiable here in Germany). Range = 1 - 10->best
    
    Boy's don't cry                     10
    Seventeen seconds                    9
    Faith                                8
    Porno...                            10
    Japanese whisper                     4
    The Top                              8
    Concert                              2 (I saw 6 Cure-Concerts. They were all
                                           better than the album)
    In Orange (saw it on Hifi-Video)    10++++++
    The head on the door                 9
    Staring at the sea                  10 
    Standing... (a collection of their
                 videos)                 8
    Kiss me, ...                         1-10 (10 for the song "Kiss me")
    

    Well I bought the new Cure single yesterday and hmmm yes Smith's
    done it again...very different. Lullaby is a chilling story of
    childhood fears with Smith's voice at it's atmospheric best.
    
    Can't wait for the album.
    
    bruce, leeds

    Interviews in N.M.E. and TIME OUT last week (N.M.E. part II this
    week).  Sounds like they've done it again - the new single and album
    are getting great advance press.  Hope to see 'em too.  Played first
    2 sides of "Kiss Me..." last night.  Getting in the mood for the
    new platter!!!
    
    David.
    

    When is the album expected out in the UK?  It'll be here in the
    states on the 28th.  But my sister is in England for another week
    and I was hoping she could pick it up for me while she was there.
    
    Steve O

    
    Probably on the same date - but the first single released in the
    uk isn't Fascination St - so there is probably a different cd ep
    over there.
    
    will
    

    Heard an import of Fascination St on Saturday. I think Lullaby's
    the better of the two much more wierd with a great atmosphere but
    then I've only heard F.S. once.
    
    Bruce

    DISINTIGRATION: The Cure
    
    Out on Tuesday
    
    Track Listing:
    
    Side 1
    
    1: Plainsong
    2: Pictures of you (Heard this - Excellent track)
    3: Closedown
    4: Lovesong
    5: Lullaby
    6: Fascination Street (Americas first single. Not as good as Lullaby)
    
    Side 2
    
    1: Prayers for rain
    2: The same deep water as you
    3: Disintegration
    4: Untitled
    
    Cassette & CD extra tracks:
    
    Last Dance
    Homesick
    
    The Cure's European tour arrives in the U.K. in mid- July - dates
    to be confirmed.
    
    WOW! Can't wait!!!
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    I saw the video for Lullaby last week...very good !
    
    But, if that's a lullaby...My God !
    
    John

    The album is on the shelves here in the states today!
    

    Looks like it was released at the same time in both countries then...
    
    O.K. here they are, the British dates for the Prayer tour...
    
    Dublin Dalymount Stadium - July 15th   - 
    Glasgow SEC              - July 18th   - 12.00 & 11.00 pounds
    Birmingham NEC           - July 20th   - 12.00 & 11.00 pounds
    London Wembley Arena     - 22nd & 23rd - 12.50 & 11.50
    
    Support: Shelleyan Orphan
    
    There might be more but these are the only ones planned so far.
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    I heard a rumour of some outdoor gigs in the summer (possibly one
    in Newcastle?). Anyone know anything?
    Mike

    25 quid!!!! Thats how much it's costing me to go see the Cure in
    Birmingham. They could have played somewhere up north!
    
    Anyone else off to 'em in Britain?
    
    B.S.

    Does anyone have a note of the credit card hotline number used when
    the gigs were first announced?  It was one of the ticket agencies,
    but I can't remember which one.  My tix haven't come yet, and I'm
    starting to sweat!
    M.

    It was 240-7200

    Don't panic (if your tickets were for Birmingham)...due to public
    demand an extra performance has been organised at the N.E.C. on
    July 21st.
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    re .22 Many thanks, I'll give  them a call.  The tix were for the
    London shows, has anyone else got their tix yet?
    Mike

    I  just got a receipt from the travel company and was told that
    they haddn't got their tickets yet but I could collect them in about
    a week.
    
    Bruce, Leeds
    

    I'm waiting for Wembley tickets, too. I vaguely remember being told
    that the tickets wouldn't be despatched for a few weeks - hopefully
    there's no cause for alarm yet.
    
    Ian

    Hey Toronto...
    
    The Cure is slated to perform at CNE stadium August 28.  Tickets
    go on sale June 26 for around $26.
    
    For all those who will see the concert prior to this...we are looking
    forward to your reviews (good ones only please)...
    
    There is an ex-Liverpudlian standing behind me who longs for his
    homeland...want to know if anyone remembers The Cure concert from
    1978 at the Portsmouth Polytechnic?  He says he was the drunk one
    on the floor with blue hair (he still has it too - and teaches courses
    at Digital's Toronto office!)
    
    later dudes...
    
    Mark and Phil

    
    This might be old news but anyway:
    
    The Cure are playing an extra date at Wembley Arena on Monday 24th
    July. Credit card hotlines: (01)379 4444, 836 4114, 240 7200, 741 8989.
    
    

    Yay! My tickets have arrived...just 8 days to go...my anticipation
    mounts!
    
    Whilst out at a pub last night I put a pound in one of those CD
    jukebox thingys and selected 2 Morrissey tracks and 3 Cure tracks,
    to my amazement they turned down Moz and on the last Cure track
    - Homesick (which I haven't heard - I got the vinyl L.P.) the swines
    turned the Jukebox OFF! I couldn't believe it...I'm never going
    there again...it was full of Kylie Minogue look alikes anyway!
    
    Bruce

    Bruce--
    
    Make sure you give us a full review!
    
    Homesick is one of my favorites.  No taste at all!
    
    Lani

    Right nearly time....
    
    By this time tomorrow the coach will be half way to Birmingham...150
    miles from here.
    
    Reading this weeks interview with Smith in Sounds my anticipation
    mounts...This is to be the very last Cure tour and because Smith
    knows it each performance is out of this world...and getting better
    all the time.
    
    Full review on Monday...Friday is recovery day!
    
    Should get some reviews from the Wembley do as well on Monday.
    
    Bruce (First and last time I see 'em)
    

    See conference BOMBE::RADIO_RADIO for full review of Thursdays
    concert...I can't type  all that out again!!!!!!
    
    note 230.103
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    Anyone interested in buying Disintegration on CD (unplayed) for
    8.50 (english pounds!)? Could swap .... 
    Mail me if you are interested.

    
       Where is it they're playing tonight?...
    

    Wembley arena.  There were still tickets left yesterday.  Go and
    see them.
    
    Mike

    
    BBC1 - Tonight 9th August , 11.30 pm
    
    	'THE CURE IN ORANGE'
    
    Concert at the Theatre Antique d'Orange, in 1987
    
    Watch it - or regret it !!!
    
    A.Y.M.O.P.
    

    Is it the full version you can get on video - it only lasts 55 mins???
    
    Mike

    The Cure release 'Lovesong' on Monday as the second single from
    Disintegration...no info the 'B' side.
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    	Hallo,

	I've one special problem concerning the songtext
	of "In Between Days". There are a few words I don't
	understand. 

	Can anybody tell me what he is singing there?

	I marked the missing text with "..."

	Thanxs.


	Guido





	In Between Days     taken from the album "staring at the sea - 
        ---------------                           the singles"


 	yesterday I got so old, I thought that I could die
	yesterday I got so old, it made me want to cry

	go on, go on, just walk away
	go on, go on, your choice is made
	go on, go on, you disappear
	go on, go on, away from here

	and I know I was wrong when I said it was true
	that it could have been me
	...

	without you, without you

	yesterday I got so scared, i shivered like a child
	yesterday away from you, it froze me deep inside

	come back, come back, don't walk away
	come back, come back, come back today
	come back, come back, but can't you see
	come back, come back, come back to me

	and I know I was wrong when I said it was true
	that it could have been me
	...

	without you, without you
	without you, without you
	without you, without you
	without you, without you


    

    i think it goes something like..
    
    "i know i was wrong when i said it was true
    that it could have been me and be her in between 
    without you "

          <<< Note 361.40 by SNOC01::TOMAC "bought on stolen wine" >>>
                 -< you knew very well, what was coming next >-

    i think it goes something like..
    
    "AND i know i was wrong
    when i said it was true
    that it couldN'T BE me and be her in between 
    without you "


(corrected after checking the album sleeve).

Note that the best action to take here is to rush out and buy The Head On
The Door. Only three of its ten tracks are on 'Staring..' If you can
audition it, listen to Kyoto Song.

Neal-who-was-at-the-wembley-concert-in-July

Gosh! not much activity in this note lately.

How about: Cure in concert, new album alert, radio alert, miscellaneous info



I saw The Cure at the Crystal Palace Bowl on Saturday 11th August. This is an
open-air venue; sit on the grass etc. Due to the unexpected British summer
(ie it isn't raining very often at the moment) the environment was hot and
sunny and very pleasant.

There were 4 bands playing, but the Real Reason for going was to hear The Cure.
My sister and I whiled away the time people-watching, and seeing how many
different Cure T-shirts we could see (at least 20, I reckon).

The bands were (in order of appearance):

Lush
James
All About Eve
The Cure

There were two interesting A5 papers being handed out:

Firstly:

The Cure
THE SINGLE "NEVER ENOUGH" 10.9.90
B/W "LETS GO TO BED" (MILK MIX)
THE ALBUM "MIXED UP 8.10.90
CD. MC. 2LP
FEATURING 1990 REMIXES OF "A FOREST"
"THE WALK" "IN BETWEEN DAYS" "CLOSE TO ME"
"THE CATERPILLAR"


Then:

Cure F.M.

on friday aug 31 starting
at midnight you can join in
on the cure's very own
pirate party
tune in on ???fm
lets not go to bed



I enjoyed Lush (who I'd never heard of). I though James were pretty ordinary
(though a couple of their songs were OK) and All About Eve seemed pretty
boring. General audience reaction was entirely opposite to mine...

Robert Smith wasn't wearing black, and told a joke (apropos of nothing): 
"A cheese and tomato sandwich went into a bar and asked for a pint. The barman
said, "I'm sorry, we don't serve food" "

Nice sense of timing Robert, but don't give up on the singing just yet...

I enjoyed the concert, but I didn't think that it was as good as Wembley last
year; there wasn't room for all the lighting effects (which I though really
enhanced last year's concert) and they didn't play "Plainsong" or "Hot, hot
hot!"

They did play "Killing an arab" which may have been interpreted by the audience
as a political statement...

(BTW: in case you don't know, Killing An Arab is based on the existentialist
novel The Outsider, by Camus. (don't let the word existentialist put you off,
it's quite a thin book, and very readable. I read it in a couple of evenings.))

(BTW: if you didn't know that, you may not know that Charlotte Sometimes is
based on the children's book Charlotte Sometimes, by Penelope Farmer (don't
let the fact that its a childrens book put you off - it's worth reading 'cos
you can then work out what the song's all about)

(BTW: are there any other Cure tracks which have matching books?)

Neal.

    Camus' book: "The Stranger"
    
    Hence the line:  "I am the stranger, killing an Arab." 

    re. 42 ... Whatwas the frequency?
    
    Mikef

    Welll...The bowl was a reasonable venue, although I'm not too happy
    with open air gigs at the moment.
    The big 'off' thing for me tho was a 'pool' in front of the stage, so
    no stage diving!!
    
    Lush were OK.  James were, as the man put it, 80%.  The real problem
    was that it was a hot afternoon, with zero atmosphere.  Trying to
    overcome that was a struggle, but they still turned in a great set,
    finishing with Come Home, How was it for You, and Sit Down.  Sit Down
    was especially wonderfull, slightly more boogiefied than the single was.
    One of the more fun aspects was pushing as far forward as possible,
    then dancing madly, to the serious disapproval of the Goths.  They were
    not impressed with anyone trying to enjoy themselves, and at least one
    of them nearly got a black eye without having to resort to makeup.
    
    All About Eve apparently had Wayne Hussey on guitar, tho could have
    been anyone from where i was sitting, scoffing vegetable curry. This
    band were seriously dull.
    
    The Cure were excellent, although I prefer indoors, smaller venues. 
    The set was better as it got darker, and there was some serious cutting
    of rugs.  As noted before, Robbie told a joke.  That probably gave the
    Goths a heart attack.  The new single, Never Enough, sounded great, and
    wegot around 2 1/2 hours worth of Cure.
    
    The bad thing about the day - Getting out of the Car PArk and across
    London whilst half asleep and suffering from sunstroke.
    
    Good thing - Meeting our main Man Bruce. (who has gone off MAgda!!). 
    He had loads to say, but I can't remember it all.
    
    BTW - Saw the Morrisey video at the weekend.  After Every Day is Like
    Sunday, there is film of the doors being opened at the gig, the second
    girl in , with red/purple hair, is the famous Magda. For all you trivia
    freakd out there.
    
    HO Hum - fun day, but awfull toilets.
    
    Mikef

re .43, .44

- *my* copy (Penguin) is called "The Outsider". As a reader in the RADIO_RADIO
conference noted (And I forgot to mention) it is a French book (yes, I read
the translation) so the title is open to interpretation!

- The frequency was "???" on the handout - but the FM band isn't so large or
  crammed with stations that a little trial and error wouldn't be successful.
  Let me know if you pick it up!

Anybody got any thoughts on the new single?  I think it's pretty good even
though it sounds like, well, all the other bleedin' indie shysters in the charts
these days.  the remix of `Let's Go To Bed' on te B-side is good too.

For those who haven't heard, The Cure are releasing `Mixed Up'; Old songs 
remixed + some new stuff, sometime in October.  Ah, the remix, will we never be
set free?

Lee

    
    So does anyone know what the new album is going to have on it besides
    re-mixes and 'Never Enough' - any live stuff perhaps?
    
    Also does anyone have a track listing of the free live cd that HMV
    was giving out with 4? - cd purchace - is that offer still valid?
    
    will

    
    Cross_posted:
    
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                             -< Radio Apocalypse >-
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Note 230.185                        The Cure                          185 of 185
MILLER::BULMER "Dr. Jekyll and Mister Rogers."       19 lines   5-NOV-1990 05:08
                        -< R.S. does MTV international >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Okay, so I admit to being a disgustingly devoted CURE fan, though being
    so in this conference is decidedly lame.
    
    Now that that's done with, due to wine-saturated brain cells, I
    completely forget to borrow a VCR and record this CURE special. I did
    by luck tune into the show though and now I'm kicking myself for not
    having recorded it, as it was such a superb (albeit immensely depressing) 
    retrospective of the CURE by Robert Smith.
    
    Did anyone record it? I would do just about anything for a copy or the
    chance to copy it.
    
    In the NME interview of R.S. last week, I found it hilarious that he
    finally gave the reason for the title of the DISINTEGRATION album.
    After critics, fans, and DJs all guessed incorrectly that it signified
    the imminent breakup of the CURE, or perhaps a separation between
    R.S. and wife Mary, or even the complete dissolution of the remainder
    of R.S.'s sanity, it turns out he wrote most of it on and as a result
    of "the most depressing night" of his life; the day before he turned 30.

Oh good, another Cure Album.

Just what went wrong with the Cure?  `The Head on the Door' was about the last
semi decent album they produced.  Why is it the intros to their song are always
about 3 minutes too long?  Why is it they only have two styles of songs (the
turgid one, and the slightly less turgid one)?  Why?  Why?  Why?

My guess is it's because of their dreadful fans.  Most of them seem content to
idolise whatever bloated pop or mock-gothickry noises their idols make, without
really judging it as anything other than Cure Product.  They'll always flock to
their oversized gigs, always on their `last-ever' tour. They're willing to put
up with the childish witterings of a man 30plus who still can't use a comb.

Well, enough's enough.  Bring down the Cure.  Stick their bloody heads on the
door.  `Wish' is the same MOR poppy drivel as `Disintegration' and `Kiss Me,
Kiss Me, Kiss Me'.  Avoid. (Unless you're a fan of course.)

Lee

    Disintergration?  Drivel???  What planet have you been living on?  KM3
    would have been a good EP, I agree, but Disint is a marvel of
    introspection.  Hmm, I'll play the new lp tonight.
    
    Mikef

    Well, played the new lp once last night - and I wasn't too impressed. 
    Not awful, but not inspiring.  I had to go back and play the singles
    album after listening to it.  
    
    What was the lp after Head on the Door?  I hated that also.  Or was it
    the one before Head on the Door?
    
    Mikef

    re .50
    
    Did you not like it then Lee? Can't say I've heard it, myself. 
    I'm sticking with Carter and the KLF, I am.
    
    Piers

Last weekend was "Cure Weekend" on MTV - it was was fun to see and hear some 
stuff I once liked back in the 80ies. Some videos were really quite good. 

It is quite unbelievable though that they still do the same things today - 
and Bob still in the same outfit... (I know I am getting old...)

FeliX.

Doesn't anyone have the lyrics of "Boys Don't Cry"?

Thanks in advance!


James

                    <<< Note 361.55 by HGRD01::CDECWIN_JP >>>
                              -< Boys Don't ... >-



>Doesn't anyone have the lyrics of "Boys Don't Cry"?

>Thanks in advance!


>James


"yesterday I felt so old, I thought that I might die".

  err...er..

  Stuart

    ".. Yesterday away from you. It made me wanna cry."
    
    but that's all I remember. Perhaps I should use Calgon for my
    long-term-memory.
    
    Rainer
    

This is all i can remember:-

It's hard to say i'm sorry if i thought that it would change your 
mind
but i know that it's too late, I've said too much, been to unkind
I tried to laugh about it, cover it all up with lies
I tried to laugh about it hiding the tears in my eyes
cause boys don't cry.



Rupert.

    I'm afraid even Calgon won't work with my brain. The lines from Stuart
    and me (in .56 and .57) are definitely from a Cure-song but it's not
    "Boys Don't Cry". I'm still humming the tunes, but can't recall which
    one it is. The chorus is something like "Come back, come back, don't 
    walk away, come back, come back your choice is made..." and includes
    the words "Without You" - maybe that's the title ?
     
    "Yesterday I felt so old" - and today much older
    Rainer
    

    
    
    good heavens!!  
    
    the lines that have been quoted in the past few are from "inbetween
    days"
    
    boys don't cry
    --------------
    
    i would say i'm sorry if i thought that it would change your mind
    but i know that this time i have said too much, been too unkind
    
    so i try to laugh about it
    cover it all up with lies
    i try to laugh about
    hiding the tears in my eyes
    'cause boys don't cry
    
    i would break down at your feet, and beg forgiveness, plead with you
    but i know that it's too late and now there's nothing i can do
    
    so i try to laugh about it
    cover it all up with lies
    i try to laugh about it
    hiding the tears in my eyes
    'cause boys don't cry
    
    i would tell you that i loved you if i thought that you would stay
    but i know that it's no use and you've already gone away
    
    misjudged your limit
    pushed you too far
    took you for granted
    i thought that you needed me more...
    
    now i would do most anything to get you back by my side
    but i just keep on laughing, hiding the tears in my eyes
    'cause boys don't cry
    
    boys don't cry
    
    
    and there you go!
    that lynn girl.
    

      <<< Note 361.60 by TROOA::LANDREWS "In a Galaxy far, far away..." >>>
                              -< boys don't cry >-

    
    
    I just knew that someone would fall for the oldest trick in the book.

    That git Stuart
  
  

    But why me?
    
    Always your good-natured fool,
    Rainer

    Anyone Know if the Cure are Still Playing the Edinburgh Playhouse on
    the 20th & 21st of November....????
    
    
    
    Steve.

    yes - 031 557 2590 for tix.
    
    Mikef

         Does anybody know the year that the Cure released the song that
goes "It's Friday, I'm in Love". I don't know if that is the proper title or
not.

      Martin

    I think it was 1992.

    Fridays I'm In Love was released in 1992. It was the second single off
    the Wish album.
    
    Piers

       I had a bet with someone that this song was out about 5 years. I guess
I was wrong.

       Regards,

       Martin

    69 replies

    Did anyone go to Finsbury park the other day ????
    
    
    
    I Did and thoguht they were excellent, it was the first time that they
    have played as a foursome without Porl !! The first time I had seen
    them, and was glad that the girlfriend dragged me along.  

    The Great Expectations live lp is out next week, with two Cure trax
    recorded on the day.
    
    Later this year, the Cure release two live lps, both single albums. 
    There was a good reason why it was two seperate lps, bt I can't
    remember what it was.  
    
    I haven't seen them since the Crystal Palace gig a couple of years ago,
    with james and Lush in support.  A great day.
    
    Mikef
    
    Mike

>  <<< Note 361.71 by WOTVAX::FIDDLERM "Who's gonna pay for my crashed car" >>>
>
>    The Great Expectations live lp is out next week, with two Cure trax

In the shops NOW down here Mike!

grahame

    Well, thats southern favouritism if you ask me!
    
    Mikef
    

    Ok, so whats people's fav Cure Track then. My current personal is
    Pictures of you, cos I can nearly play it. Apart from that it's Friday
    I'm in Love (probably because I met my girlfirend through it).

    
    re.70
    
    yeah I went, the cure were great, superb. The Franks were good too.
    
    GrEg...

    Hmm, they were a bt stupid with the Irish bit inbetween songs.
    Kingmaker were excellent (see 965 for Kingmaker). Sugar were stupid
    with the suck my anatomy bit ......

    I would have to go for " Fascination Street " as my favorite CuRe Track
    
    
    
    
    Steve

    Play For Today from Seventeen Seconds gets my vote.

    InBetween Days, or Just Like Heaven, or Catch! Or...
    
    Mikef

    Yes I forgot about In Between Days
    

    I thought the Cure were the best, Sugar the worst. I was way too out of
    it to remember the first 2 
    
    yee haha
    
    GrEg...(*DB*)

    The XFM gig is being broadcast on Sunday 29th August from 7.30p.m. on
    fabtastic 1FM.
    Not sure whether this is the whole caboodle, or just the Cure's slot.
    
    Leonie.
    

    And I think that The Cure's Olympia Gig is being played in Bank Holiday
    Mondy, can someone tell me if i'm right ??

    >The XFM gig is being broadcast on Sunday 29th August from 7.30p.m. on
    >fabtastic 1FM.
    >Not sure whether this is the whole caboodle, or just the Cure's
    >slot.
    
    was it, I could'nt find it I got the top 20 Album Chart, you did mean
    Radio 1 FM did'nt you ?
    

    The Cure's latest video / album is out next week, The video has 5 extra
    tracks on it to the audio formats.
    
    The CD and LP are both doubles, with the CD being at a "low price"
    
    if anyone gets them, lets have a review !!!!
    
    
    Linsey
    
    P.S. is it only me in the conferance now or what ?

    bought both this weekend, review them in a biot

    THe Cure are the best british band for the last ten years - if not one
    of the most successful.
    How many other bands can keep such a hold on thier fans over such a
    long period ? Fans who get bored places are filled by a new bunch of
    dedicated lookalikes of Mr Smith.
    Their Success must be attributed to  a number of qualities - Image, the
    best in the buisness, Songs - some of the finnest pop tunes ever. Boys
    dont Cry - Just like heaven etc etc, and the ability to have a
    different style for every L.P.
    Live you always get your moneys worth - usually around 3 hours - the
    last hour being "a forest".
    
    Runours are abound this next l.p will be thier last ever ...NO
    honestly!!!
    I for one will shed a tear the day the cure ends.
    They provided me for one with a daft haircut for over 5 Years -
    Numerous Girlfriends, quotes from songs that could make you weep and the
    best music I have ever heard.
    I will never tire of "All cats are Grey", "The Figurehead" or their
    most recent classic - "From the edge of the deep green sea" one of the
    ultimate L.p tracks.
    What other group has produced 'b' sides as good as their 'a'sides 
    The exploding boy,  New day and Halo - all Classics.
    
    A true mould breaking group with a genius as a front man - the Best
    alternative band ever - YES....  
    
    G.
    (The Ultimate cure fan)
    

    But every Cure album I've gotten in the last * years has been said to
    be the last...;-)
    
    Have you heard the Cure track on the soundtrack to The Crow?  I've been
    told that its brilliant.  (Blame Ed if its not).
    
    Mikef

"Burn", the track from the CROW soundtrack is excellent.

How can you mention b-sides and not mention "Babble"!?

/Ed

    Sorry,
    There are so many excellent b sides that i just picked my fave's
    
    Did you know that the look of 'the Crow' was based on Mr Smith, it was
    his image that moulded the authors view of his character.
    
    And did you know that the cure are now going to record their "last "lp
    this summer, they where going to go to the world cup but alas England
    as we know did'nt get there so they are recording an L.P instead.!
    
    Just some boring facts for there...
    
    G. 
    (THE Cure Fan)
     

    >>They provided me for one with a daft haircut for over 5 Years -
    
    Does that include that contraption you're growing on your head at the
    moment? That looks pretty daft as well. Tell me: how did you manage to
    get a degree with spelling like you use? Did you have to draw your
    answers?
    
    Phil Gill.

    IF you had seen me recently - you may have noticed a slight difference
    in my haircut, YCB.
    Ie. it is no longer the way it was when you last saw it.
    And my spelling is of no concern to you either, you know what I mean!!!
     it is because I type too fast for my fingers.
    On the subject of English, What sort of grammar is:
     >>with spelling like you use?<<???
    
    G.
    (the Worst spelling Cure fan in the World)
    
    
    

    
    re a few back. Have seen 'The Crow' and can vaguely remember the track,
    its not an upbeat single like "Why cant I be you?" or "Boys dont Cry"
    more of a plodding Cure track a'la "Pictures of You". But then I could
    be wrong. There is a cover of an old Joy Division single during the 
    film which is pretty good - any idea who its by?
    
    Andy
    

    I Read Some_Where that Chris Robinson of The Black_Crowes was The
    Authors Insperation for The Crow Charecter.Altho I Personally think
    (A Thin)Smith would be A better Choice.
    
       Crazy_USA_Beat_Columbia_Al

    The song in the crow that is a Joy Division Cover is,
    Dead souls - Nine Inch Nails.
    
    Does Chris Robbinson look like the crow - make up etc - I currently
    cannot picture him.
    
    G.
      

    If you have The Crow CD the picture on the CD itself (it is the main
    characters face) is a dead ringer for an angst-ridden Robert Smith back
    in the old Pornography days.
    
    Brian_who_has_seen_the_Cure_seven_times
    

    It looks like Robert Smith from any period after Pornography.
    
    G._who_doesn't_really_care_and_has_everything_they_have_ever_recorded.

    Everything ? All the 7"'s 12"'s and LP's ????
    
    My fience (sp ?) has all of the albums, and getting close to all of the
    12"'s (those released in the UK on Fiction and not on the US label).
    
    She has a good few of em.
    
    Linsey

    I used to have a few live tapes knocking around, if that counts?  I
    haven't seen them since the Crystal Palace thing, which I think was
    1990?  I ought to replace some of the back catalogue which I've lost
    over the years, especially KMKMKM.  Some of the stuff on there is dull,
    but Just Like Heaven and Catch are works of genius which make me want
    to wear my underpants on my head.
    
    
    Mikef

    
    ...haven't seen them since Glastonbury a few years back,  but that was
    one of the funniest events I've ever seen at Glastonbury, the band were
    great, I really enjoyed their set.... 
    
    It was the influx of Cure fans - all spikey hair, white faces, black
    clothes and smudged lipstick - into Glastonbury just to see one band !
    a lot of them arrived a few hours before and left shortly afterwards,
    the rest looked very uncomfortable with their surroundings for most of
    the time they were there...
    
    G (recovering_slowly_from_glasto_94)

    Yes, I believe i have averything they have ever recorded on Fiction.
    All thier L.p's- Including the Limited edition Kiss Me *3 - C.d,s,
    Singles (Including most of their Limited editions) and even the
    cassettes - some have more tracks on than the L.p.'s (I.e Standing on a
    Beach, has all the B' sides up to that period that are not available on
    other L.p's - and Faith which has Carnage Visors, a collection of  
    instrumentals for a film show they would play prior to the Faith
    concerts.) - And a few DJ promos!
    
    And all the Videos - I know it all sounds a bit much but it bacame a
    hobby from about the age of 15, and then I became obssesed.
    
    If anybody has anything for sale that they think I may not have then I
    will be more than interested. 
    
    And that concert at Chrystal palace was a classic - not so much thier
    performance more so the atmosphere and event - What a day!!
    
    G. 

    Just read some interesting stuff about their Current Court Case with
    Lol.
    
    It was only sposed to last for 2 weeks, but ran into 3. Beacuse the
    judges calender was full, they are having to wait until after summer
    recess, so *maybe* a decision in October.
    
    They are planning on starting recording again later this year with a
    view of releasing in 95, and the article rekoned that they would not be
    playing any Live gig's this year. Shame I was looking forward to seeing
    them....
    
    
    Article is in the NME.

    Any word on the lineup they plan to record with?
    
    On "Burn" it was the same as it was for the "Wish" except Porl was
    missing.  Is he still into the family thing and his art hobby?
    
    Brian
    

    Porl left the band last year, they played the XFM gig without him (and
    they were BRILL).
    
    I would imagine that they are going to play without him, all of the
    stuff that I have read is that he has left the band and will not be
    coming back, although he did leave amicably (Unlike Lol ;-)
    
    Linsey

    Porl is married to Roberts sister so it's a good job he left amicably
    else he might have caused a FAmily break up!
    Anyway i feel sorry for poor Lol he stood by old Smithy in the mid
    eighties only to be dumped on later - Admitedly he could'nt do anything
    play an instrument correctly - had a drinks problem, and always looked
    like he was in his mid forties. - but he was part of the Furniture -
    the fridge i think?
    
    Poor lol - In an interview with Mr Smith after Kiss me *3 he said Lol
    was like an old thread bare cloth, that you carried everywhere with you
    but did not know why??? And it was only when somebody questioned the
    fact that he did realise why, it was thier mutual experiences that kept
    them together.
    
     - like gang beatings and taking the p!!s out of!!
    
    Poor Lol.
    
    G.
      

    Found Mixed up in the Car last night driving home.
    
    Forgot just how excellent this album is, it was a shame to have to get
    out of the car.

    According to the NME and MM this week, the Court case will be heard on
    the 16th September.

    And so it was.
    
    Lol lost the case, and has to cough up the 1Mill quids fee's.
    
    Smith was not present at the hearing, but when informed of the verdict
    he was very happy and went off for a game of Tennis with Mary (his
    wife).
    
    Linsey

    The Cure are playing a couple of nights a Docklands Arena (I think) in
    May.
    
    Mikef

    
    Presumably as a security measure to keep the paramilitaries from 
    striking there again.
    
    
    ;^)

    Head (hung in shame) on door...
    
    The gigs are at Earls Court.  Sorry.  
    
    Mikef