Conference marvin::uk_music

    
    
    I was suspicious about how this might be when I noticed the programme
    title in the paper - " Brits 88".  I loathe that expression.  I
    also checked to see if there was a simul-broadcast on Radio 1 (as
    there usually is) but no.
    
    It was a total shambles from start to finish.   Whoever dreamt
    up the idea of pairing Sam Fox with Mick Fleetwood should be sacked.
    Not only did they look totally ridiculous, they were absolutely terrible.
    
    Not that they can be blamed for some of the monumentous cock-ups,
    but experienced presenters could have covered over many of these
    awkward moments.
    
    I couldn't last out to the end - had to switch off from pure
    embarrassment.
    
    Michael
    

    
    I don't think it was fair of the audience to boo anyone, even a
    conservative politician.  Cliff was right in telling them to grow up.
    
    Apart from that, yes it was horrible.  Did anybody else think that the
    programme was created with a view to selling it to the Americans?  They
    usually have two useless comperes, and those little links every ten
    minutes were ideal for ad breaks.
    
    High spot of the evening:  Realising that Tinita Tikaram sings like Tom
    Waits.
    
    	Lee.

    
    It's always right to boo a Conservative politician -- ESPECIALLY
    Baker.
    
    Richard.

    Yep, I did.  In fact, if anyone else has, rewind it to the bit
    where Tinita does her solo bit, and notice the way the accordion
    player keeps giving her passionate looks.  Makes good viewing.
    Mind you, she was missing it all cos she kept her eyes shut - probably
    to try to block out the awfulness of it all.
    
    Apart from the embarassment of watching it, I wish the winners 
    would accept their awards a bit more graciously.  True, nerves 
    were probably to blame, but when you get Fairground Attraction
    coming up and grabbing the award falling about giggling, it does 
    nothing for their image.  What a world of difference it was when 
    Phil Collins etc came up.  A true professional - mind you I guess
    he has had years of experience.
    
    Another thing - if so many award winners "couldn't be here to collect
    the award", why hold it on that day?  They must know the winners
    quite far in advance, but surely the logistics should be suited
    to them rather than the hangers on??
    
    
    
    

>>>    Another thing - if so many award winners "couldn't be here to collect
>>>    the award", why hold it on that day?  They must know the winners
>>>    quite far in advance, but surely the logistics should be suited
>>>    to them rather than the hangers on??
       
    That's always assuming they could be bothered to turn up to a tacky
    little presentation in this insignificant island. After all, we're
    not talking Grammies here are we?
    
    Tony
    

    Damn, I missed all but the last half hour - mind yew, that was bad
    enough, the most embarassing bit being Cliff's speech.
    
    Not that I'm a particular fan of the guy, but I thought, up until
    about two thirds of the way through the pre-cliff "who's it going
    to be?" windup, it was gonna be ol'Eric (more desevedly it would
    have been, too) - still, if all you've got to do is be around for 
    30 years, he'll get it in about }oooh{ 1994/5?
                                           
    Wasn't that Randy Newman/Knopfler supergroup bit at the end totally
    *FLAT*????
    
    I missed Tanita, but would have liked to hear her impersonation
    of Tom Waits (one of my favourite singers)......
    
    Bob

    Ok, if anyone wants to borrow the video to endure 90 mins of 
    embarassament, let me know.
    
    Ear plugs and sick bag provided with every request.
    
    Julia 7833 3537

    Mick F. was funny - he kept waving his hands all over the place
    and rubbing them!!!!
    
    Thought Phil Collins *didn't* deserve the male whatsit award, but
    he did deserve the soundtrack one.
    
    Yep, it was a bit of a hoot!
    
    David.
    

    re: .8
    
    He's a virgin, you know.

    Anyone have any thoughts on last nights BPI awards prog?
    
    . Who had the sense of humour to choose that Cat Stevens track?
    
    . What was the point of the nauseating Ice Maiden sequence?
    
      It really seemded (again) to be a list of who has made the most money
    in the last year, and who had the most success in the states (FYC).
    
    Hmmm
    
    Mikef
    
    Who did win British Newcomer?
    

    
    Less fun than last year's! :^)
    
    The TV version was obviously hacked together in a totally different
    format to the actual event (Seen by KM's way of introducing Lisa
    Stansfield as if she hadn't even been mentioned before when we'd
    just seen her collect her award).  
    
    I didn't really see the point of the Thatcher bit.Whatever you
    think of her, I can see no connection between her and the music
    industry.
    
    The clips with music (a la Rock 'n' Roll years) was good and some
    of the musicians came across well (not Soul II Soul who exhibited
    their true talent level by having to mime!).
    
    Ok as this sort of thing go, certainly not as purile as the Smash
    Hits award (puke, puke!) and a vast improvement on last year's fiasco.
    
    Mark
    
    PS Since when has Jason Donovan been British?

    I thought Phil Collins was good playing on the spot like that.  Also it
    was funny to hear Lisa Stansfield's Rochdale accent.  She just looks
    like she comes from London.
    
    I want to know why Madonna wasn't a nominee for Best International
    Artist, and it seems a bit weird that the Phil Collins record was
    chosen as the Best Single.  There must have been at least 20 records
    that sold more during '89, and therefore there were at least 20 records
    that were more popular.  I don't know who votes for these awards, but
    they want shooting.
    
    Awards like these should reflect a true cross section of the public.  A
    mate suggested they should have forms in record shops for people to
    fill in when they buy a record.  You couldn't get fairer than that!
    
    
    matty (I'm just peeved that `Technique' didn't win the Best LP)

    Matty,
    
    The best single was the result of a postal ballot to select the
    best 32, then a 4 day phone poll of 8 tracks a day to select the
    best 8 out of the 32, then a further phone poll on the last day
    of the week to determine the winner of the 8.
    
    Paul

    Err... I very much doubt if Phil played on the spot, no matter how it
    was set up.
    
    i used to get real angry about these shows, but there is no point. 
    Independent labels are not elligible (because they are independent of
    the BPI - I think), so Factory never qualify for a record award - tho
    True Faith won viddy award a couple of years ago.  On that basis, most
    of the best music produced just doesn't get entered.  
    Like I said, the awards go to whoever has made the most money, not the
    best records.
    
    Mikef

In the credits at the end Factory were mentioned ...

    AND Silvertone, and Rough Trade....
    
    Juju
    xxxx
    

    What did they do?  Were they just thanked for not rocking the boat?
    (SIlvertone isn't an independent label, tho, apparently).  There were
    certainly no Independent bands or labels mentioned during the show.
    
    Mikef

    I think that that was Factory as in the video production company
    that Eurythmics use.
    
    Paul

    Annie Lenox got her bit in about South Africa, but the best was
    Ray Davies - "it's great being famous in another country".  He sure
    had a dig at the UK record industry/buying public.
    
    David.
    

    There is an upside to indies not getting anywhere in these awards;
    as an independent company, all releases on PWL are excluded. Poor
    old Pete Waterman's bitterness on this almost verges on paranoia.
    
    Bob

    The Stone Roses were nominated for Best Newcomer
    
    
    matty

    They record for Silvertone - not an independent label, who are
    affiliated, or whatever, to BPI.  Theres a full explanation in either
    the latest Q or NME, I can't remember which.
    
    Mikef

    RAy Davies gets my vote as the best presenter...
    
    "U2 couldn't be here tonight, so...they're not here."
    
    Not nearly as funny as last year's show. 
    
    Cheers,
    	George

    I heard on the radio last night that FYC handed back there award cos
    they felt the whole thing was a publiclty stunt due to old Maggie being
    there..
    
    Gripping stuff!
    

FYC & Roland Gift are c**p

remember seeing an article in one of the tabloids a couple of months ago, the
basic gist of it is...

the Sons of Glyndwr (sp) were burning down homes owned by the English in Wales.
Gift praised them for doing so, adding that folk in Scotland should do the same.

the next day a rival paper picked up on the fact that Gift own four houses in 
UK as well as a remote cottage in New Zealand (plus flats in  NY & other
european cities).

...art

    a `tabloid' you say....

    Possibly the same tabloid that published a shock horror expose on
    Joe Strummer's attitude to football hooligans?
    
    Bob

THINK it was Mirror & Sun...


...well at least they print some truth...



the tv pages are generally accurate for times and programmes


...art     :-)

    I can well believe old Roland said that.  Remember what I said in a few
    notes back - about him being big headed and egotistical..... the guy
    definitely needs his head examining.
    
    Mind you having said that, I was listening to one of their records on
    the radio the other day, and it came to me how similar his voice is to
    the lead singer of the Christians.....  Has anyone else noticed the
    similarity?  So, he can't be all THAT bad.
    
    Julia

    Well, I suppose there is some tonal similarity, although for my
    money Garry Christian sings a lot better, his voice is much richer
    and he has a better range. Roland gift always sounds a bit strangulated
    to me - I always wanna grab him by the throat and tell him to open
    up an sing, dammit. Sorry, his voice just gets on my nerves.
    
    Bob