Conference marvin::uk_music

    They do still exist - they've just released a new single here in the
    UK, though it's title eludes me for the moment.

    If I find out any more I'll enter it here.

    Cheers,

        Derek.    

    
    I like the Human League, but some of the latter stuff is a bit
    naff, although I like the "Dare" album.
           
    -Tony

    There is a 'Greatest Hits' album being released shortly - I heard
    a track-listing on the radio this morning and it contained most
    of their biggies such as "Love action", "Fascination", "Mirror Man",
    "Don't you want me", "Being bolied" etc.  However, it doesn't seem
    to contain "Hard Times" which has to be my all-time fave Human League
    track.
    
    Dave
    

    
    But is their version of Gazza's classic "Rock'n'Roll Part II" on
    it?
    
    I also *love* Open Your Heart - Phils singing on this and all their
    other stuff is always natural and un-mannered, a good voice to listen
    to.....
    
    Bob
    

    
    Isn't their 'new' single on their last album ?

    Yup, 'Love Is All That Matters' is the last track on Side Two of
    their last studio set, "Crash", released in 1986.  This album aslo
    contains the hit single, 'Human', and the flop follow-up, 'I Need
    You Loving'.
    
    The 'Greatest Hits' set looks like a winner, but I have to agree
    with an earlier comment that 'Hard Times' should've been included
    as it's also probably my favourite HL track.
    
    Dougie_who_has_the_Rock'n'Roll/Nightclubbing_double-pack   ;-)

    
-->    The 'Greatest Hits' set looks like a winner, but I have to agree
-->    with an earlier comment that 'Hard Times' should've been included
-->    as it's also probably my favourite HL track.

Is the Greatest Hits album out yet?  What label is it on?  I **must** get a 
copy!

-->:) John<--

    It's out today.
    Mike

These are the Human League singles that I own.  What am I missing?

The Sound of the Crowd		1981
Hard Times/Love Action		1981
Open Your Heart			1981
Don't You Want Me		1981
Mirror Man			1982
(Keep Feeling) Fascination	1983
The Lebanon			1984
Louise				1984
Life On Your Own		1984
Human				1986
I Need Your Loving		1986
Love Is All That Matters	1986
Are You Ever Coming Back?	1986

And these are the albums that I have:

Travelogue			1981
Dare				1982
Love and Dancing		1982 (The League Unlimited Orchestra)
Fascination			1983
Hysteria			1984
Crash				1986

If anyone has knows what I am missing please let me know!  Thanks!

--> :) John <--

    
    Quite a lot of money?

	Do you have the "Being Boiled"/?? single (on FAST, UK)???

    Re. .9, here are a few others missing from your collection :-
    
    'Empire State Human' 7"
    'Boys And Girls' 7"
    'Nightclubbing'/'Rock'n'Roll double 7"
    
    'Reproduction' LP
    
    From your note, it's obvious that you've only been collecting since
    around the release of 'Dare' - good luck in tracking down the above
    earlier releases.  I don't think you'll have too much trouble tracking
    them down in a decent second-hand store in good nick.

    Does anyone remember the correct history about how Human League
    came to exist.   It was something to do with BEF (British
    Electric Foundation) and Heaven 17 ...
    

    
    Wrong way round. Two guys in Heaven 17 (martin ware and ian ?) were
    original members of the League and left to form the new band along
    with founding BEF. They left pre-Dare.
    
    				Ian.

	Re: .14

	Correct. Ware and ?? were the brains behind the Human League
	(note the "politcal" overtones of some of their early stuff).

	When they left, the remainder of the League decided that they
	needed something to attract attention to the band and hired 
	some not-too-bad-looking-girls. (paraphrased from an old interview)

	BEF produced music by other people ("Music of Quality and 
	Distinction"? or something like that)

	and Heaven 17 continue to make records. "Penthouse and Pavement"
	their first being my fave.

was it Ian Craig ??
    
    H

    After listening to the Greatest Hits album a few times, I noticed that
   'Being Boiled' is much, much different than the one on my 'Travelogue' 
    LP.  Is the 'Being Boiled' on the G.H. album the one from 
    'Reproduction?'

                              6 Facts
    
    
    1. Martyn Ware and Ian Craig-Marsh (founder members of the Human
    League) received 1% of the total royalties of Human League Mk2 album
    "Dare" in exchange for relinquishing the band name to Phil Oakey.
    ....An awful lot of money !!
    
    2. When Martyn and Ian left The Human League they formed a production
    company "The British Electric Foundation" (B.E.F.). This was a proper 
    registered company with shares divided between Martyn, Ian and Bob
    Last, the latter being manager of the original Human League !!
    
    3. Martyn and Ian could well have chosen Glenn Gregory to be vocalist
    for the original Human League as opposed to Phil Oakey, since Glenn
    also frequented Sheffield youth project, Meatwhistle, where Human
    League formed.......only Glenn moved down to London.
    
    4. This Glenn Gregory was to become vocalist for B.E.F. project
    "Heaven 17". This project was to become so successful that they
    were later to fold the production company and focus all their efforts
    on Heaven 17
    
    5. Martyn Ware is making more money producing than being a member
    of Heaven 17. He has produced for the likes of Paula Yates (Bob
    Geldof's wife), Dan Hartman, Tina Turner, Terence Trent D'Arby,
    The Associates, Sandie Shaw etc etc
    
    6. The Human League now just consist of Phil Oakey and the two girls
    that he "picked up" at the Crazy Daisy Disco in Sheffield ! They
    are currently recording in the same vein as Human League MK1 (or
    trying to).
    
    7. The split was bitter, but now apparently both Heaven 17 and the
    Human League are the best of mates again. 
    
    
    

    Sorry, that was seven. Here's an Eighth:
    
    8. Australian group Men Without Hats started off with the name Heaven
    17, but had to change it because they had already been beaten to
    it !

    Sorry - could have been !
    

    Confirmation: MEN WITHOUT HATS HAIL FROM MONTREAL, CANADA. - SORRY!!
    

    Just read in this month's Q Magazine - The Human League are currently
    in the studio and have teamed up with producer Martin Rushent again
    (he's the producer of "Dare"
    

	Any more news on The Human League recording a new album?

	--> :) John <--

	I heard 'Heart Like A Wheel' by The Human League.  Great
	song!  Any comments?

	--> :) John <--

    
    Sounds more like the Dare era stuff, but with a bit of the political
    comment stuff found in 'The Lebanon'.
    
    I like it (not something I can say of much of the post Dare HL).
    
    Mark

   Absolutely fantastic.  They were on Wogan last night and I sang
   the song to myself all evening.  Like the way Phil Oakey has got
   his hair all long again and back at one side, almost like the way 
   it was in the "Dare era".

   Suzanne is still as much of a tart as ever and Joanne is still
   as shy as shy can be.

   Other than that, "Heart Like a Wheel" (turning away from anything
   that's real), is one CD I shall be purchasing.

   Goldy

Heart Like A Wheel produced by same producer who did Dare, Martin Rushent(He 
also produced a lot of Altered Images stuff).

Check out the B side Rebound in which I think they are trying to echo the sounds
made by the Early Human League (pre-Dare).

Peter
 

	The new album "Romantic?" is out.  Any comments?

	--> :) John <--

    NME gave it 2 out of 10, but I haven't read it yet.

    I think Vox only gave it 3
    
    Tim
    ---

    Went to see the Human league at Shepherds Bush last night, they were
    ace and had a brill boogie to all the eighties songs I thought I'd
    forgotten.  Thet also did their two new ones..a top show and that guy
    has an amazing voice and looks great as well..the support was Blair who
    were quite Jamiroqui'ish , I quite good really.
    
    Andrea