Conference marvin::uk_music

    
    A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend who's brother  once 
    went out with my sister's history teacher told me the other day 
    that this movie was really good and well worth a look in if your
    a fan of the diminutive one. He said the visuals were real good
    and the muzac excellent but then HE  is a real prince fan and i
    doubt if this review could be trusted. However one thing he also
    mentioned of interest is that the place really wasn't busy and that
    was a Friday night, hmmm maybe Princey wincey's fans are to busy
    looking round Soho sex shops to go and see their hero.
    
    	I fink i'll wait for the video and watch it with twelve pints
    inside of me.   
                                                           

    
    I saw the film last Friday, and yes, the cinema wasn't exactly bursting
    at the seems.  However, it is running for 4 weeks, so it should
    play to quite a few people by the end of it's run.
    
    The bottom line is .... it's one of the best concert films I've
    ever seen!!!
    
    Apart from the start, which portrays a back alley scene with The
    Purple One, Cat and some other band members, it'a *all* concert
    footage from the 'Sign Of The Times' tour.
    
    It's a shame that this didn't make it to London ... the set really
    is a fantastic collage of street scenes and neon lights - very similar
    to the album cover.  It would have looked brilliant live.
    
    Prince plays some great solos on a number of the songs, and they
    all sound really good.  Most of the album is played, with 'The Cross'
    being one of the highlights for me.
    
    His stage movements are great and he can move too.  He also plays
    a snatch from 'Little Red Corvette' and a Charlie Parker tune. 
    The only reservation is the inclusion of the 'U Got The Look' video
    in the middle of the film, with Sheen Easton.  It used the same
    stage set, but as it's a video, he mines the whole thing, which
    looks out of place with the rest of the performance.
    
    All done with Dolby stereo of course.  I intend to see it again,
    if I can .... catch it!
    
    David.
    

    
    
    I shall be down to see the movie, when I go to see him at Wembley
    week after next....anyone know the number of the Dominion as I wouldn't
    mind reserving seats...I suspect a lot of Prince fans may have the
    same idea ! 
    
    Anyone else actually going to see his live show ?
    
    Rex

    
    RE: .3
    
    The number of the Dominion is 01 580 9562, although if you wish
    to book by credit card it may be a different number.
    
    You should have no trouble getting fairly good seats on the night.
    
    David.
    

    Hello Rexley,
    
    Yes I shall be going to see Prince next week on Monday and 
    Tuesday.  Can't wait!
    
    Have you read the NME report on his Paris Gig?  It's good
    reading and makes it sound like THE concert of the year! Not
    to be missed.
    
    Regards
    Mazzer
    

    
    RE: .5
    
    A lot of people are talking about M. Jackson as he's the only one
    who can do what he's doing.  I reckon that Prince is up their with
    him in the entertainment stakes - check the film out, and let us
    know what you think.
    
    David.
    

    
    RE: .6
    
    You are right, but I think it would be wrong to compare the two,
    which needless to say is what will happen over the next few weeks.
    Both are most definately looking for different things from their
    music.........anyway you should all know he's so good after all
    the raving Mazzer and I made about his last shows over here!
    
    RE: .5
    
    Mazzer, surprised you've not seen the movie yet....I'm going to
    see his last two dates at Wembley...I can't wait although after
    last years fiasco I'll not believe it until he's on stage. I read the
    NME review which looked great and did no more than wet the appetite,
    nice to see he still plays his old stuff I just hope he plays 'It's
    Gonna Be a Beautiful Night' and 'Anna Stesia'. Have fun and let
    us know '....what he was like....!'
    
    Rexley 

    RE .5/.6
    
    I just haven't had the time to see the movie but I'm certainly
    gonna try.
    
    With regard to Michael Jackson v Prince, I think the only comparison
    is that their both great dancers and talented song writers.
    
    I've always liked Michael Jackson because of his talent in writing
    songs and his great dancing techniques so as far as I'm concerned so
    what if he prefers Chimps to humans or likes to wile away his time
    in an oxygen tent (Yes I read the SUN!!).  He's a great entertainer
    who no matter whats written about him doesn't take the bait!!
    
    With regard to Prince as far as I'm concerned he's my MAIN MAN.
    I don't believe this man has even begun to show us what he's capable
    of.  Like Michael he doesn't give interviews and because of that
    he is the target for all the C**p we see in the papers about his
    *weird* lifestyle.  All I know is that when he's on stage he has
    the ability to keep you hooked until he's finished performing.
    
    Well nuff said about Wacko Jacko and the Purple One.  
    I'm off to see Michael on Saturday and Prince on Monday so I'll
    give you my verdict next week on who I think rules the roost.
    
    Mazzer
    

    
    Ha, ha ... some healthy Prince talk at last!!!  Yep, he's one of
    my main men too; I'm hoping to go up in a couple of weeks and see
    if I can get tix on the night, as I haven't got any at the moment.
    
    Anyone managed to get hold of 'The Black Album' yet on bootleg LP
    or tape?
    
    "I mean brealllyyy ....."
    
    David.
    

    Dave,
    
    I haven't got a copy yet but my hubby informed me at the weekend
    that one of our friends apparently bought a  bootleg copy of the
    Black Album in Holland and is going to tape it for me.  As soon
    as I have this I'll let you know and we can arrange to get a copy
    to you and Rex if he's interested.
    
    Regards
    Mazzer
    

    
    The Black Album has been advertised in NME over the last 3/4
    weeks..I've not as yet tried to get hold of a copy, although he
    does play 2/3 tracks from it in his current Live Show.
    
    I would like to hear what people like about his music, favourite
    album, individual songs and so on.......and if anyone has listened
    to any of his side kicks (Sheila E, Family, Jill Jones etc)
    
    How serious are you about Prince out there how can you falter someone
    with lines such as...
    
    "The men all call me Princey, the ladies call me Electric Man
     cause when you plug me in you socket, I charge you like nobody
     can !"
    
    Indeed,
    
    
    Rex
    
    
    

    
    RE: .12
    
    Comparing Prince and Hendrix is like comparing chalk and cheese
    - it gets ya nowhere in my opinion.
    
    Prince's guitar is very Hendrixy at times - nothing wrong with that.
    It can also sound completely different - "The Cross" from "Sign
    Of The Times" is very much in the Jorma Kaukonen style (J. Airplane).
    
    His music is a great blend of rock, funk and soul - it *use* to be rare
    for an artist like this to appeal to a predominantly white rock
    audience, but not now.  Hendrix was one of the first - he had an
    almost exclusively white audience.
    
    "Around The World In A Day" is a great album too.  My fave song
    of his is "Raspberry Berret" - brilliant.
    
    David.
    

    
    	Not my favorite person, but the man definatley deserves
       respect for his musical and dance abilities, also anyone who
       writes songs like "Little Red Corvette" can't be all bad.
                               
    
    
    	Grub.....

    RE: .12/.14
    
    Prince does sound very Hendrixy and even looks like him.  I
    read recently that he is so eager to be cast as the lead part
    of Hendrix in a film about his life that he has taken to dressing
    up like Jimmi wherever he goes!
    
    My favourite albums are Purple Rain, Sign O The Times, Around the
    World.  
    
    I would have given Parade the thumbs down but now I've seen
    "Under The Cherry Moon" I find I really like it.
    
    Favourite Tunes: Head, Sexy Dancer, 1999, Little Red Corvette,
    America, Controversy, Gonna be a beautiful night, Purple Rain,
    I would die 4 U, Nikki, The Cross, Kiss, Girls and Boys and ....
    ....... (loads more).
    
    I haven't heard anything by Sheila E other than Bell of St. Mark
    and in the film "Krush Groove" she did a track on stage but I can't
    remember what it was called.  Other than her I've never heard any
    of the others apart from the 'Time' - spelling is probably wrong
    - but its the group that was in Purple Rain that Prince used to
    front, if their music is anything like in the film I'm sure I'd
    like them.
    
    Has anyone else see Purple Rain or Under the Cherry Moon?  What
    did you think?  Which was your favourite?  Why?
    
    Regds
    Mazzer
    

    AGHHHHHHH     Desperation!!!!
    
    
     Does anyone know how I can get a ticket for next weeks shows? 
    
    Mike F

    It was after seeing Purple Rain that I started to listen heavily
    to Prince. Dirty Mind is a great album despite the fact the songs
    are all so short, after that Around the World is so diverse and
    still sounds fresh 3 years after release. If Sign of the Times was
    condensed to a single album it would be his best work....so I think
    Purple Rain takes it 4 me...with 'She's Always in my Hair' as fave
    single
    
    I've not seen 'Under the Cherry Moon' but I do have copies of his
    Purple Rain and Parade tours on video. The band that featured in
    'Purple Rain' was THE TIME....the group split up soon after with
    Morris Day going solo....Jimmy Jam becoming the mastermind behind
    the Tabu record label (Alexandar O'Neal), and the others becoming
    v. successful else where. Of the women Sheila E has released 3 albums
    but now spends most her time backing Prince..whilst recently Jill
    Jones has released an album, (she was the Blonde waitress from Purple
    Rain) that is well worth a listen.
    
    Less waffle and roll on the tour...!
    
    Q: Will Prince upstage Alexandar O'Neal and wheel a water bed on
       stage for his show ?
    
    Recuerdos,
    
    Rex
    

    hello purple people
    
    I've been a Prince fan since ... a while back. Staying at the Ramada
    in Reading one week, looking for a little light entertainment, took
    out Purple Rain from the video library. I liked it so much, I bought
    the video (eventually, once I actually had a video to play it on...)
    and the elpee too. Also in my video collection is Prince and the
    Revolution Live - a lot of good stuff on that.
    
    Sign of the Times (LP)? I would say there are very few single LPs which
    have more than half memorable tracks. Sign of the Times is a double and
    every one is a winner. (That hasn't happened in my record collection
    since the White Album... even that had a couple duff ones) 

    I've not got Wembley tickets, more's the pity, and may not get to
    see the movie, but it sounds great.
    
    Sheila E has some really good tracks (e.g. Belle of St Mark), but
    there's something missing; I video'd a late-night concert of hers on
    the TV and it wasn't exactly earth-shattering. I've heard a few tracks
    from The Family which were pretty good, too. I'd like to hear some more
    from The Time, too.
    
    He also writes neat songs for other folks, e.g. Bangles' Manic Monday,
    and probably more if I took the trouble to look.
    
    Not bad for a beginner, eh?
    
    
    john    
    
    

    PRINT 1:  Little Richard
    
    PRINT 2:  Jimi Hendrix
    
    and....
    
    
    
    PRINTS!

    RE: 18
    
    Hear Hear!! 
    
    Mazzer
    

    
    SIGN is only worth 11 out of ten..
    I am still sure though, his best is most definately to come....!
    and when it does no prisoners will be taken.........
    
    I believe that he his moving the whole of his Paisley Park operation
    to France as he is fed-up with the way he's been treated in the
    states.....after Purple Rain he was bigger than Jacko and shared
    pole position with Brooce Sprungsteen....now he is now not so 
    enthusiastically treated over there......does this mean there will be 
    more chances to see him over here ?
    
    Hope so...
    					
    Rexley
    
          		;-)
    

    
    Apparantly there are extracts from Prince's recent Paris show on
    Wired tonight .....!
    
    

          
    Price is cool, I saw Purple Rain and was real impressed, although
    Purple Rain is the only album of his I've got (I've got a special
    purple coloured record - v.limited edition).
         
    For any Sheena E. fans, she was interviewed by Esta Ransum (sp??)
    last night on TV. 
         
    -Tony

    And wasn't she living proof of what fame and fortune can do to someone?
    I thought she came across as conceited, hard as nails, prickly and
    cold. I thought she quite needlessy bit Esther Rantzens head of several
    times.
    
    Richard

    
    
    August 5th at the National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham. Right
    next door to the airport and the mainline railway station (none
    of this underground business!) Also a *huge* carpark if you don't
    mind forgetting where you left the car, and waiting half an hour
    in the queue to get out. 
    
    Tickets go on sale Monday. Credit card hotline number (from memory)
    is 021 780 4133. Top price tickets around 16 pounds.
    
        
    do i still need to wear something peach and black, or was that last
    year...
    
    see ya there
    john

    
    'The Black Album'
    
    I managed to borrow a copy of 'The Black Album' this weekend. The
    tracks I heard consisted mostly of heavy funk/dance tracks of which
    the content is sexual/erotic. The only differing tracks are 'When
    2 R in Love' an good Wrap/funk mix track and one rather wierd 'song'
    with Prince's voice being tweaked to a similar 'Camille' type effect
    but rather deeper.
    
    Having listened to it a couple of times, I found it initially more
    digestable than Lovesexy but none of the tracks stood out a great
    deal, with the exception of Superfunkykalifragisexy (!)....very
    much an album for a Prince aficionado.
    
    Rex....
    
    

     RE: .28
    
    He certainly did!  See concert reviews for more......
    
    Mazzer
    
    

    
    To anyone who's been up to Wembley to see The Purple One, what was
    the situation with spare tickets.  Were there many people selling
    them etc.  Let me know as I'd like to grab one on the night if poss.
    
    Thanks,
    
    David.
    

    Re: .30
    
    Monday night there were plenty of touts around and I saw tickets
    exchanging hands - don't know the cost though.
    
    Tuesday night didn't see so many and the touts who normally hang
    around outside Wembley Station were looking for tickets as opposed
    to selling them.
    
    David have you seen the note posted on Reading Engineering Notice
    Board (VTX) Debbie Potter was offering Prince Tickets for Wembley
    through the S & SC I believe - tickets were about 17.00 - don't
    know if there's any left - can't hurt to try though.
    
    Mazzer
    

    Below is a passage from 'The Revolution' handout which was available
    after Tuesday nights show at Wembley.
    
    LOVESEXY..
    
    'The feeling you get when you fall in love not with a girl or boy
    but with The Heavens Above'.
    
    To experience Lovesexy is to confront dreams made real.  Lovesexy
    is Prince's best work yet, if only for it's unashamed directness.
     The music reveals so much yet hides so much more.
    
    Prince takes chances revealing himself and not just another image,
    it is his soul that he bares for all to see on the album sleeve
    and not his body.  Lovesexy tells us more than any interview ever
    could.  His dreams, his beliefs, his visions are all plain to see
    for anyone who is willing to look.  For those who experience the
    feeling, the concert becomes a vivid manifestation of the album.
     No longer a show as a vehicle to the music, this is Prince, the
    dreams, the beliefs, his visions.....his soul.
    
    Prince's concerts have always been spectacular but this transcends
    anything you've ever seen before.  Everyone will leave with a sense
    of having experienced something special and exciting, some though
    will leave with a feeling that is almost spiritual.  That feeling
    is LOVESEXY.
    
                        **************************
    
    
    This just about sums up the man, his music and his concerts.  I
    went to see him on Monday as you know by my report but Tuesday night
    was even better - much the same layout but he had that extra 'get
    up and go' about him which everyone in Wembley sensed.  I can honestly
    say that the Tuesday concert is the best I have *ever* been to!!!!
    
    Mazzer
    
    

    David,
    
    I don't know how much your willing to pay but if you phone
    
    01-930-0800 
    
    you should be able to get tickets for PRINCE for either Thursday,
    Monday or Tuesday at approx 45.00 pounds per ticket.
    
    Good luck
    Mazzer
    

    
    Mazzer,
    
    Thanks for the update - I don't wanna pay that much, so I might
    just go up on the night and see what happens. If I don't get in,
    I can always go and see the film again, tee, hee!!!!
    
    David.
    

    re .32
    
    Mazzer
    
    I hope you are going to send that pretentious drivel to Private
    Eye for them to print in Psueds Corner.
    
    Mike.

    
    re. 32 
    
    
    sniff ..... sniff .... can anybody smell something around here ??

    
    Mazzer,
    
    
    How is the stage organised, for Parade it was at the end of the
    Arena hall, is it true that its bang in the middle the seats circling
    it ?
    
    If so are there any 'restricted view seats' ?
    
    Does he play 'Do Me Baby' I have heard no mention of it yet or
    'It'.....
    
    .....I want it morning, noon and night of every day !
    
    Rex

    Rex,
    
    Yes the stage is bang in the middle of the arena, I would say that
    the only restricted views are going to be the seats on the sides
    of the arena right at the back!
    
    On Monday night we had seats at the end where the stage normally
    is and the view was ok.
    
    On Tuesday night we had seats on the left hand side in the
    middle about 5 rows from front - brilliant seats! 
    
    All in all wherever you sit you should get a good view because he
    moves about all over the stage making sure that everyone gets a
    good view.
    
    Have a great time!  Let us know your comments.
    
    Mazzer
    
    
    

    Rex,
    
    Sorry forgot to answer your question about 'Do me Baby' or 'It'
    - can't remember him doing 'Do me Baby' but he certainly did 'It'
    ....I need it morning, noon and night of every day.
    
    Regards
    Mazzer
    

    Re.36
    
    Sorry Tony, can you explain?
    
    Mazzer
    

       
    yup, I could ........ :^)

    Rex,
    
    Well, what did you think??
    
    Dave,
    
    Did you manage to get tickets??
    
    Regds
    Mazzer
    

    Is anyone else out there going up to the NEC on friday?
    I notice that this weeks music press have started the Prince backlash,
    with reports that the Prince show isn't so good really,depending
    too much on tacky staginess (lights,effects,etc. ).Opinions?
    
    Mike

    Re/ .43
    
    Mike,
    
    I admit I'm an ardent Prince Fan so I'm *slightly* biased!  But
    my husband who has always maintained that he detested Prince and
    thought he was a wimp was overwhelmed by the concert at Wembley
    last week and thought it was one of THE best concerts he has ever
    seen!
    
    OK some of the sound in the first half was a bit dodgy, acoustics
    not quite right , but to be honest you could forgive these
    few teething problems because the rest of the set was *brilliant*.
    
    What we witnessed wasn't just a 'get up and play' concert it was
    more like a cabaret come live video set up.
    
    As for the music press - did you really expect anything else??
    
    Go and see him and judge for yourself!  I'm sure you'll be pleasantly
    surprised.
    
    Mazzer
    

    Try the NEC - a show for saturday 6/8/88 has just gone on sale.It
    starts at 5pm,so getting back on trains is not a problem
    021 780 4133 is the box office no.
    
    Mike

    
    Love to go .... but The Floyd beckon!
    
    David.
    

    Anyone know what music was being played over the sound system at
    Prince's show last Thursday (28/7). It sounded very harpish but
    may have been played on a synth.
    
    Mike
    

    
    WOW.....I BELIEVE....I BELIEVE
    
    The absolute ****ing best......
    
    Turned up at the arena having had cameras and walkmans confiscated,
    got into the arena to find the mixing desk on our allocated seats....I
    began to get a nasty feeling about the whole show, until we were
    relocated to row 2....
    
    The music was the same as they played last time on the Parade
    tour.......
    
    Anyway the show was outstanding, the best show I have ever seen,
    I still can't stop raving about it.....and I know it was good cause
    my girlfriend was reluctant to say the least to go...with comments
    like   " what do I want to see that poof for ? "...so I put her
    through the works....we watched Sign O the Times in the afternoon
    then the show.....the day after at home thought I'd listen to 'Dirty
    Mind' but I can't find it, so I try 'Lovesexy' that's not there
    in the end it transpires she's pinched my Prince collection and
    is now a 'Believer'
    
    I'll write a review a little later........
    
    
    Rex
    
    

                                It was a beautifull night
                                *************************
    
      Yeah,Prince at the NEC, It was certainly one of the most spectacular
    shows I've seen.We were a couple of rows back,by the keyboards.My
    only moan was that the sound quality was not up to the standard
    of the visuals.Having a lot of poncing around on stage is all very
    worthwhile, but I didn't go to see a live video. During the first
    half,during Housequake,I very nearly gave up-it was like having
    your ears assaulted with a steamhammer,only by the intro could we
    tell what song it was that was being played.A lot of other people
    seemed to feel the same way.Maybe the sound was better further 
    back,or perhaps its the price you pay for a round stage.
    
      The second half seemed a lot better,the sound problems seemed
    to have been sorted out a little,and things took off with 'The Cross'.
    After this the evening went from very good to heavenly,and much
    boogie did go on. The light show was fantastic,and the choreography
    was superb,Prince played the round stage to its full advantage.The
    end of Alphabetn St,with him and the girls vanishing on the car
    was well done,and a second encore really should have been played.
    
      Maybe next time he'll put some more effort into the sound,and
    make the entire evening wonderful. Does anyone have a full set list?
    I'm lookinh out already for tapes of the show.
    
      Mike

    Was this Friday or Saturday @ NEC, in previous two replies??
    
    I was there Saturday, and the sound early in part 1 was the worst I
    have heard at the NEC, maybe worst anywhere. Sound in the round at the
    NEC can be OK; e.g. I thought Stevie Wonder last year was excellent.
    But then Stevie's more "just" a musician, not so much a showman. I was
    in last-choice seats for Prince; it took me a minute or so to recognise
    some fairly well-known toons, like U Got the Look. But part 2 did get a
    whole lot better. 
    
    Maybe the sound engineer went to the Felix Pappalardi School for
    Industrially Deafened Soundmen - "louder, I still can't hear it".
    My ears finally stopped ringing this morning (Monday, show Saturday).
        
    I was listening to Sheila E at one point, wondering how I could tell
    the difference between her and a smart drum machine (in terms of
    sound...). And then a little while later, she's prancing around the
    stage, and the "drums" are still going. Or maybe I was confused, but
    that's the way it looked (and sounded) to me. "Is it Real, or is it
    Memorex?" 
    
    maybe next tour we'll get less of a show, more of the music; that
    could be quite good too.
    
    cheers
    jw

    RE: .51
        
    I didn't go to the show.
    
    A friend who did reckoned a *lot* of it was taped, especially the
    drums.
    
    David.

    I don't think all that much was taped, the sound quality was too
    bad for it to have been!  The keyboard players spent some time 
    meessing with what looked like drum machines and sequencers,it only
    takes a few seconds to load a new drum pattern from disk (just ask
    New Order), and Sheila's drum solo was certainly not taped.
       Mike

    
    This is not in order, but these are the songs he played the show
    I saw at Wembley.....
    
    Wanna Be Your Lover
    Head, When You Were Mine, Dirty Mind, Sister
    Controversy
    1999, Little Red Corvette, Delirious
    Let's Go Crazy, When Doves Cry, Purple Rain 
    Pop Life
    Kiss
    Adore, Slow Love, U Got The Look, The Cross
    Superfunkycalifragisexy, Bob George
    Lovesexy, I No, Glam Slam, ANNA STESIA, Dance On, I Wish You Heavan
    Love Bizarre, Erotic City 
    Just My Imagination
    
               .....there may the odd one or two I've forgotten.....

    We also got Jack U Off + Alphabet St,but no Just My Imagination.
    
    The Sign Of The Times film is being released on video next month.
    Is it still at The Dominion? I'm at the London training centre
    week after next,so I'm gonna try and get to see it.The Dominion
    is the one next door to the Training Centre isn't it?
    Mike
    
    

    Who did the cover version of "Kiss" that I heard on my local radio
    station down here on the Cote D'Azur ?   [Sorry if this has been
    discussed already in this topic].

    Age of Chance covered "Kiss"...
    
    /joe

    Tom Jones also did a cover version on The Last Resort
    
    Mike

    
    Hue and Cry do a cover of KISS as part of their current live set!
    
    Rex
    
    

    
       > Age of Chance covered "Kiss"...
       
       A great cover 'You don't have to be Prince if you want to
       dance ...'. 
    
       Does anyone know which group covered Madonna's 'Get Into The
       Grove' at about the same time time in a similar style.
    
       Marc.

    Re .60 Sonic Youth did the Madonna cover,calling themselves 
    Ciccone Youth (sp).I think they are going to release a whole lp
    under that name,including 'into the groove' sometime soon.
    
    Mike

    RE: .55
    
    Yes, it's still on at the Dominion till August 24th (extended run)
    - it is also now on at various other cinemas throughout the UK,
    which is great news.
    
    The Dominion *is* right next to the DEC office!!!!!
    
    David.
    

    PRINCE in PURPLE RAIN
    
    Channel 4 Wednesday 24th August 1988 at 11.00pm
    
    Regds
    Mazzer
    

    Sign O The Times Video now on general release from
    Virgin and HMV at approx 11.99 pounds.
    
    Mazzer
    

    
    brian here if anyone wants to buy prince's lovesexy live video's i
    suggest you just buy number 1 it's got lots of his old stuff. Where as
    part 2 has mostly new stuff of the lovesexy album.
    
    Brian G.