Conference marvin::uk_music

    
    Smiths Triv...
    
    	A live Smiths album is due out next month sometime on Rough
    Trade, supposedly containing a lot of previously unrecorded stuff.
    
    Also, Mozzers releasing a second single of his solo album next week.
     It's `Eveyday is like sunday'.  I heard the b-side on the John
    Peel show yesterday and it was pretty good.
    
    	Lee.
    

    I think Johnny Marr did some of the guitar work on the
    latest Talking Heads album 'Naked'.

    
    
    What's the general view on Morrisey's exploits without his old
    mucker, Mr. Marr. Although good, Viva Hate isn't a patch on
    Strangeways. Did anyone see the South Bank Show on the lads,
    very interesting stuff apart from the bloke who reckoned that
    in ten years time we'd all think of The Smiths as The Beatles II.
    

            
    Yeah I saw and was disappointed with the south bank show on the Smiths.
    It was strictly for the uninitiated. I preferred the one on the velvet 
    underground a year or two ago. (As an aside what other groups has
    the show covered?).  
    
    Marc

Re: .0

	So where is the SMITH's/MORRISEY conference?

	/Ed\

    The live album has been put back until aug/sep.Morrisey chose the
    tracks on it,and Marr gave them the o.k..
     I also read some time ago that the lp would include some cover
    versions,but I don't know how true this still is.

    
    Confusion reigns....
    
    The 12" of "Everyday Is Like Sunday" contains three tracks not on
    the album "Viva Hate", namely "Sister I'm A Poet", "Disappointed",
    and "Will Never Marry".  This combination of songs contrives to be 
    an even better collection than the album itself, in my opinion.  Has
    anyone else thought the same thing?  Why would he (Morrissey)keep the 
    best stuff for a single?  It certainly puts "Viva Hate" a poor second.
               
    						Ian!
                                                    

    
    Just started reading this conference, Johnny Marr is still rumoured
    to be working with the Pretenders.
    
    Rowland.

    Rumour is that Morrisey and Marr are getting back together,tho'
    without Rourke and Joyce-Peely said it so it must be true
    Mike
    

    Could anybody out there tell me if Morrissey is ever doing any live
    performances these days? Something I wouldn't want to miss. Who's
    ever seen The Smiths live, and what was it like?
    
    - Hannelore - 

    
    You've just missed him!  He played a gig in Wolverhampton last month
    where the only admission fee was that you wore a Smiths T-shirt.  They
    also only let 2000 people into the hall.  People had been queueing
    outside for 3 days.  Thousands were turned away and the rozzers were
    called in to control the crowds.  Inside things weren't much better,
    everyone was leaping up onto stage trying to get to the miserable one.
    
    He only played something like 7 songs, and he had 2 ex-Smiths plus 1
    part-time Smith playing with him.  The whole event was filmed for part
    of the video of his new single, due out this month.
    
    No further plans as far as I know of future dates though.
    
    	Lee.
    

    re -2
    
    Yeah I saw the Smiths live at the County Hall (GLC, London) about
    x years ago at some left wing benefit (used to be lots of these
    till mags got stroppy), I do'nt think I've ever heard such a lot
    of crap in my whole life on the other hand Billy Bragg played that
    day also and he was well good!!!
    
    	- Paul -

Stroppy := ?

    re -2
    
    Paul, was that benefit the 1983 (?) Jobs for a Change gig? Also
    on the bill were the Redskins (who were attacked by large numbers
    of NF skinheeds during their set) and Hank Wangford and his merry
    men (also attacked by NF skins on stage)
    
    I missed the Smiths at that one (having only got to like them in
    the last couple of years)
    
    Bob, another BB fan....

    RE: -1
    
    Yes that was the one, the whole thing was a little on the violent
    side! I'm not a rabid left-winger but I swear that the police let
    the lefties get a good thumping before arriving to late to save
    broken guitars/head/limbs etc.
    
    	- Paul -

    
    Well there seems to be very little factual news in this topic so
    I'll have to stir things up a bit.  The following I heard on a 
    Boston (yep USA) station.   The Smiths will re-form minus one Mr.
    Marr - they are already recording a new album and will go under
    the name Morressy - they have already recorded some tracks for the
    album which will be out sometime after Mr. Morressy's second solo
    album is released.
    
    Johnny Marr, I have heard is working with Matt (the The) Johnson.
    
    will
    

    I Heard that Paul Weller has been roped in to play guitar on the
    next Morrissey album, "Cappucino Alsatian".
    
    
    THE CAPPUCINO KID
    

   >  I Heard that Paul Weller has been roped in 
    
    
    Why not? He's probably cheap these days.
    
    Richard.

This is an exclusive believe me .It's going to be an album of Jam and
Smiths re-hashes i.e."Bengali on a platform in a tube station at midnight",
"Heaven knows we're internationalists now"
        
Sheridan Whitehead    
        
        
    

    
    Bought the new Morrissey maxi, "Last of the famous international
    playboys...", not bad, and the lineup is a near reunion of the Smiths,
    excluding Johnny Marr.
    
    Has it been out for long in the UK?
     
    	* Panic in the streets of Munich...*
    		- Hannelore -

I heard that the 'international playboys' referred to in the latest Morrisey
single are:

	Bolan, Bowie and Devoto. (And questionably left off: Morrisey)

Any other such rumors floating around?

Ed the rumor monger.

    I can tell a lot of you read N.M.E. so I won't repeat the facts
    about the hold up on 'Interesting Drug', the new Moz single. The
    thing is...i've heard it, already! It was on the John Peel show
    on Thursday and it's a definate attempt at the No.1 spot. Having
    managed to tape half of it I've figured out that it's about admitting
    that the Drug really helped someone. Moz asks can you blame us for
    taking the drugs after all we been through?
    
    It was followed by. 'I know very well how i got my note wrong'.
    A freebie on the Drutti Column L.P. it's got Moz swearing on it.
    (I think)
    
    Anyway it's good news at last on the Moz live scene...Live dates
    (Small venues) planned for Autumn.
    
    Anyway here's the chorus to I.D.:
    
    'It was an Interesting Drug, the one that you took,
     tell the truth, it really, really, helped you.
     Interesting Drug, tell the truth, God it really helped you'
    
    WOW!
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    As I'm living in faraway Munich I am NOT a regolar reader of NME,
    so please please please let me know what I want (to know) this time...
    
    Is there a piece of censorship going on, loose talk about drugs,
    or what? How disgusssssting!!!
    
    Well, 
    	* Hannelore ***

    Interesting Drug is now on sale and has hit the Brit charts at No.9.
    I Haven't seen the video yet, but that's what's caused the most
    trouble mainly because it shows culled seals. What's wrong with
    that? I've seen culled seals on T.V. before.
    
    The song is about 'bad people on the rise' (on the vid there's graffiti
    saying 'bad people on the right'. Another dodgey point!). And the
    drugs are taken as a relif from the bad people! You've got to buy
    it to understand it!
    
    Bruce (The one you can't have)

    Has anyone bought the Etched 12" of Interesting Drug?  Whats it
    like?
    Mike

    It came out this Monday and supposedly has Moz on it.
    But I didn't get to see it as my local indie store hadn't received
    it then.
    
    An etched disc is where one side of the vinyl has a picture etched
    into it with tracks on the opposite.
    
    
    I once read a letter in N.M.E. The whole of the letters page had
    been dedicated to Moz/The Smiths fans going on about our hero. This
    final letter read:
    
    ' Now that everyone is in agreement that Morrissey is the new messiah,
    when can we nail the bastard up???!!!'
    
    I couldn't help but laugh. Do I go to confession????
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    Did anyone see Top of the Flops last night? The video for the new
    Moz single was on...admittedly a cut down version. It was hilarious!
    Just like something out of a carry-on film. The problem was we hardly
    got to see any of it as T.O.T.P. daren't show the start with the
    graffiti 'There are some bad people on the right' or the end with
    the culled seals...but what was there had me rolling around on the
    floor in hysterics!
    
    Bruce

    Now that I've heard "Interesting Drug" a few times, I reckon the
    Cappucino Kid back at 85.18 had it about right.
    
    The Internationalist Playboy

    I saw the video IN FULL at last, last night (3.00 a.m. Wednesday
    Morning - Transmission). Right at the end the boys from the school
    and the large girl are dancing Moz like in the street when our hero
    appears walking past a poster proclaiming it takes 40 dumb animals
    to make a fur coat for 1 dumb animal. Moz walks up, hands out
    some animal liberation leaflets and then walks away...the dance/party
    is naturally ruined!
    
    By the way I recommend you video 'Transmission' if you like the
    indie scene. This week they had stuff like They Might Be Giants,
    Darling Buds, Happy Mondays, The Hypnotics, The Pixies, Half Man
    Half Biscuit, Brix Smith (Adult Net/The Fall). 1 Hour long.
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    Is a CD single/EP of "Interesting Drug" available?  If so, what does
    it look like and what else is on it.

    Thanks,
    John

    The CD was released at the same time as the single and contains
    the same tracks as the 12" single...Interesting Drug...Such a little
    thing, such a big difference and Sweet and Tender Hooligan (Live
    at Wolverhampton).
    What did you lot think to the B side (Such a little thing...)? I
    thought it was great...theres always something great on a Moz B
    side...still waiting for A side form though...
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    re .34  What is Transmission?  Cable or Satellite or something?
    Mike,
    (who_would_sell_his_grandmother_to_see_the_whole_vid)
    
    Ps  Why have Rough trade never released a Smiths video?  I know
    the BBC still have the live show from Derby, broadcast early 84-ish,
    and there were the interesting films made for Queen is dead, ask,etc.
    I think Rough Trade would be on to a winner.                         
    

    Re. 37
    I'm not totally sure but I thought Derek Jarman made 4 videos for
    The Smiths - The Queen is Dead, There is a Light, Panic + Ask -
    and that these had been released on video.
    
    Anyone know more than this?. I'd quite like to buy it.
    
    The Rusholme Ruffian

    Can anyone post a complete videography [is that a word]?

    Re .38 
    
    Those videos were unfortunatly not realised for sale. They were
    recored for the '86 24 hour whistle test thing.
    
    If you look around your town for your local indie store you may
    find bootleg smiths videos with material recored from T.V. - Top
    of the Pops appearences, Tube sessions etc. These sell for 10-15
    pounds but it's best to ask to check the quality first.
    
    The same question about videos was asked in N.M.E. a couple of months
    ago...Rough Trades reply sounded like they may in the future release
    a video of Smiths stuff.
    
    In the early years of the Smiths it was there policy not to do videos
    as part of their attempts at staying non-commercial.
    
    I think the 4 previously mentioned videos were the first.
    
    Bruce

Heard on the radio at lunch...........today is Morrisey's 30th birthday.

    Thanks for the information...it must be one of the few important
    things that I didn't know about the guy!
    
    Bruce

    Good Johnny Marr interview in this weeks NME.
    Mike

    Yes but one question was missing....
    
    'What do you think of what Morrissey is doing now?'
    
    Bruce

    Really enjoyed Craig Gannon's guitar work on 'Interesting Drug',
    and also Kirsty McColl's harmonys.
    
    Best single Morrissey's done to date. If anybody hears about
    live dates, please post it.

    Rich

    Sad news....
    
    It stated in last weeks sounds that there would definatly be no
    Morrissey album ready for Autumn and no live dates are planned.
    
    This is maddenning, will I never see the bloke in the flesh?
                       
    Bruce, Leeds
    
    P.S. There's a new book on sale from Omnibus press called 'Morrissey
    in his own words'. It makes a fairly interesting read...It's quotes
    from interviews with him over the years, set out in an excellent
    style.

    Moz has gone into the studio to record another SINGLE! Due out in
    'Autumn' it is believed to be produced by Steven Street and will
    feature Andy Rourke.
    
    Meanwhile Moz has moved house yet again....back to Manchester this
    time.
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    Taken from the N.M.E. 13/9/89:
    
    SMITHS TO REFORM?
    
    Persistant rumours that THE SMITHS will re-form gained weight this
    week with reports from Europe that the band are to tour there in
    the New Year.
    
    One French promoter who had been booking dates for a solo tour by
    MORRISSEY in the Autumn has been told to scrap the plans because
    The Smiths will travel there in early 1990.
    
    Two independant sources contacted NME this week to confirm the rumours,
    but there's been no official announcements of a reunion by the band,
    who split up two years ago after more than a dozen hits.
    
    And if The Smiths do play Europe, will they play dates in the UK?
    
    A spokesman at Bandstand, who were brought in to promote Morrissey's
    Wolverhampton show last December, told NME: 'There were stories
    that Morrissey was going to play Europe, but not the UK. I haven't
    heard anything about The Smiths touring, that's an interesting one.
    
    'But there's been so much confusion in the past, following there
    break-up that it's hard to tell who actually represents them.'
    
    Certainly it would make commercial sense for The Smiths to get back
    together and the lastest stories coming out of Manchester say that
    Morrissey and Marr are back on speaking terms.
    
    On top of the Smiths stories, however, comes another tale that
    Morrissey will end his stint as a solo artist by headlining a Christmas
    show at Manchester's GMEX.
    

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    From the same issue:
    
    Just when you thought is was safe to peer into your Morrissey free
    express we bring you THE SMITHS NOT to reform part 901,276. Not
    only did Morrissey NOT turn up for the wedding of Andy Rourke and
    Maxine, but Rourke's best buddie Mike Joyce phones up on the morning
    of the couples' nuptuals to say he wouldn't be fulfilling his
    obligation as best man! But perhaps Andy has been a very, very,
    naughty boy recently 'cos even his mum didn't turn up...
    

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    Make your own descisons...I'm gonna wait and see what happens...and
    pray for some live dates.
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    More from the Dubious Musical Express:
    
  "Morrissey has been in the studio this week recording some new material
    for EMI. A spokesman for the label confirmed that Mozzer had been
    recording a few new songs, but he added: 'People shouldn't expect
    a new single too soon. He's been trying a few things out, but we'll
    see how it goes. There's nothing on the release schedule at present."
    
    N.M.E. Understands that Morrissey has been in London working on
    the sessions with producer Clive Langer."
    

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    This Smiths fan I know showed me his passport yesterday. Why? "So
    I can be ready when the Smith's announce their European tour!"
    
    Forget the Stone Roses - The Smiths live on!!!!!
    
    Bruce, Leeds  

    WHo are/were the Stone Roses?

    A very average new Manchester band that the N.M.E. chose to be the
    new thing of '89. One guy recently had the nerve to suggest they
    were better than The Smiths. Another of the Drug scally bands.
    
    B

    Don't believe anything Bruce says about the Stone Roses, these guys are
    much better than the Smiths (that's the Smiths who live at number 14
    on my street).
    
    It would be foolish to compare both these bands, at the moment the
    Roses are flavour of the month with the music press, reasons being 
    that they have a fantastic album and some great singles out at
    the moment. I think they are good as do a number of my friends but
    then again some people think they are hyped up too much (but who
    cares about them! 8-) ).
    
    If you can, have a listen to the album ... it's good!

    Enough...don't mention them again in THE SMITHS note. They don't
    deserve to occupy a topic so great!
    
    B

    
    RE: .53 
    
    Agree totaly!  Bugger The Stone Roses, they're not bad but don't hold a
    candle against The Smiths.
    
    Anybody seen the latest Melody Maker.  Great wee give-away mag on The
    Smiths, small biography and a discography as well.  Interesting
    reading.  Are there any official biographys on Mozzers and the lads?  I
    ain't seen any that's for sure.
    
    Stuart B...
    
    P.S.  Is there anybody out there who would agree with me that Meat Is
    Murder is a better album than The Queen Is Dead?  I can never make up
    my mind.  They're both brill for different reasons.  And many claim
    that How Soon Is Now is THE Smiths track.  Anybody agree?  I personally
    still think it's This Charming Man, or maybe Sweet And Tender Hooligan.
    
    

    Nahhhh, How soon Is Now is definitive...agree that Meat is Murder
    is possibly the best tho'...seems more chunky somehow, or perhaps
    it was the relief after the disappointment of the first album.
    
    There is a Smiths book, written by a guy named something like Muddle,
    or somesuch.  It isn't all that good, and Mozz doesn't like it.
     not enough history, for instance it doesn't mention Mozz being
    with the Nosebleeds (any bootlegs???), etc.  We need to know more
    about Mozz and Marr before they became famous.  I don't think Mozz
    was as a big a recluse as he likes to make out.  He used to share
    a flat with that girl whose name I can't remember (platonically,
    maybe).
    
    Mikef

    Best albums: Hatful of Hollow for the early stuff
    		 Queen is Dead for the later louder stuff
    
    Yup definalty How Soon Is Now.
    
    Mick Middles wrote The Smiths which was drasticly slammed by Moz
    and Marr. Not good enough, bit like The South Bank show, doesn't
    do them justice. But interesting.
     
    Moz lived with Linder before The Smiths.
    
    Other books: The Smiths in quotes...moneymaking venture...lots of
    nice pictures...quotes on various subjects by various mambers of
    the band.
    
    Morrissey in his own words. Fairly good...loads of Moz quotes on
    loads of various subjects, shows how his views changed.
    
    Bruce (No I haven't gone yet Mike)

    >> Moz lived with Linder
    
    Linder as in Ludus??
     
    
    Bob
    

	Re. the last few

	Best track ?!

	Choose one from the following...

		This Charming Man
		How Soon is Now
		The Boy with the Thorn in his Side
		Bigmouth Strikes Again

	Best album : 'Hatful of Hollow'
	Naffest album : 'Strangeways'

	P1

ps: If you ain't heard Green Bee and me do 'This charming man' you
    ain't heard nuffink.

    Linder as in Ludus...yup!
    
    New Moz single "Ouija Board Ouija Board" nex muf!
    
    (No kiddin'!)
    
    Bruce

    Next Monday guys! Next Monday!!! Go out and get 'em boy - Every
    format of Mozzers new single. 'Ouija Board. Ouija Board.'. Produced
    by....Clive Langer and Alan Winstanley. Stephen Street co-wrote
    the song.
    The B-side is co-written by (can u dig it?) Andy Rourke (ex-Smiths)
    and is called, 'Yes, I am blind.'
    12"s and CD versions will have a cover of the Herman's Hermits song
    'East West'.
    
    The video sounds stunning with Joan Sims (From the Carry On films)
    as a pshycic medium and Katy Burke of Comic Strip and 'Sid and Nancy'
    fame. It is produced by Tim Broad.
    
    Musicians on the single are Kevin Armstrong (guitar), Andrew Paresi
    (Drums), Mathew Seligman (bass) and Steve Hopkins (drums).
    
    Bruce

    I have it! Mozzers new single is in my grasp - complete with drool
    inducing cover!
    
    Tell you about it tomorrow.
    
    B

    In less than 78 lines ???!?



    Wow!!



    (oblig `wail-ie' -;)

    
    'Ouija board, would you work for me?
     I have got to say, 'hello!' to an old friend.
     Ouija board, Ouija board, Ouija board, would you work for me?
     I have got to get through, to a good friend.
    
     Well, she has now gone, from this Earth, happy planet,
     With all the carnivores and the destructors, on it!
    
     Ouija board, Ouija board, Ouija board, would you help me?
     Because I *STILL* do feel so *horribly* lonely.
    
     Would youija board, would youija board, would you help me?
     And I just can't find my place in this world.
    
     Well, she has now gone, from this Earth, happy plant,
     With all the carnivores and the destructors, on it!
     Oh here my voice, here my voice, here my voice, *oh here my voice*...
     THE TABLE IS RUMBLING!
    
     The table is rumbling!
     The glass is moving!
     *No I was *not* pushing that time*!
     It spelt - Ess - Tee - Eee - Vee - Eee - Ehn!
    
     The table is rumbling!
     The glass is moving!
     *No I was *not* pushing that time*!
     Pee - You - Ess - Haitch - Ohh - Double Eff!
    
     Well, she has now gone, from this Earth, happy planet,
     With all the carnivores and the destructors, on it!'
    
    (Lyrics copywrite the greatest songwriter that ever lived (and E.M.I.))
    (Reproduced without permission)
    
    O.K. I think you can guess what I think of this single....4 miniutes
    25 seconds of pure excellence! Excellent voice - just to here him 
    croon 'So horribly lonely' send little tingles down your spine! -, 
    Excellent music - probably the best Moz single musically (with
    Everyday is like Sunday).
    
    Packed full of charm, wit (Christ the wit of this guy is unbelivable!
    How can anyone feel sad after hereing this song?!) and sensitivity.
    When I finally figured out what the board was spelling I cracked
    up - Oh typical Mozzer - and when the table started rumbling I nearly
    wet myself! Typical? Yes and no...it's different.
    
    Predictions on it chart placing anyone? PLEASE LET THIS BE No.1!
    
    On the B-side 'Yes, I am blind.' is another good track. Quiter and
    less wit Mozzer croons; 'There must be something, horribly wrong,
    with me' because, he admits he can't see good things, just bad things.
    Another excellent song.
    
    East West is handled nicely too.
    
    Go out and buy it! PLEASE!
    
    Bruce

    
    So, do you think this girl he's trying to contact is the same one who
    croaked in Girlfriend in a Coma? Just wondering.
    
    I thought he was saying "unhappy planet", not "Earth, happy planet".
    
    And a very ignorant question, but I don't get the reference to Steven.
    Of course, I have also forgotten Morrissey's real name at the moment.
    Would it, by any chance, happen to be Steven?
    
    Duh.

    Re: .-1

    Yes, I think you are right:  it's "unhappy planet", not
    "Earth, happy planet".  BTW, I didn't get printed lyrics
    with my U.S. CD single.  Are the printed lyrics included
    with the 12" vinyl or UK CD5?

    Re: Morrissey's real name.  It is indeed Steven Morrissey.

    "Yes, I am Blind" is also a very good cut.  I could have done
    without the cover tune, though...

    Well worth the wait, IMO.

    John

    i read in a cult note, that duffy(from the cult) and morrissey
    were in a band together??  and that duffy taught marr how to play
    guitar at 16  ... if this is true??.. anyone know what they called 
    themselves.
    
    re: .53
    what about 
    
    the queen is dead
    bigmouth strikes again
    panic
    what difference does..
    this charming man 
    shoplifters of the world...
    that joke isn't funny anymore
    there is a light..
    etc
    
    surely there can't be ONE song that is DEFINITIVE!!
    
    
    jack.

Black ones

  Shakespeare's sister
  Half a person
  This night has opened my eyes
  
White ones

  Stretch out and wait
  William, it was really nothing
  Cemetary gates
  Back to the old house ( Brill guitar riff )


And one with a piece of...... ( There's a song there somewhere )

Of course they're all brilliant, but these are a few of my favourites

Best albums for value, I reckon have got to be 'Hatfull of Hollow' &
'The World won't listen'.

Rich

    
    Think I'll kill myself now! :^(
    
    
    Mark

    I saw a poster of the smiths a while ago...
    
    and there was a fifth person in it!! looks a bit like 
    marr, sort of...
    
    does anyone know how this might be ?? it's killing me...
    
    
    jack

    
    	does anyone know anything about .66 ???
    
    
    		anyone ???
    
    

    re .69  The 5th person was Craig Channon (or was it cannon) - something
    like that anyway. Around the time of Queen is dead, Andy Rourke had a
    heroin problem, and left the band, Craig was his replacement.  Afer a
    while, Andy came back, and Craig stayed on as backup Guitarist for the
    Queen is dead tour.  I believe he appears on the live album, and played
    on Whistle Test appearances from that time.  He left (!) after that
    time.
    
    Re .66  Weren't that band called The Nosebleeds, or somesuch?  I don't
    think any tapes exist.

    It was Craig Gannon (nit, nit!), and the full name of Morrissey's
    old band was Ed Banger and the Nosebleeds.
    
    Bob

    Hey...I was close!  Not bad for a pre-coffee entry.  I guess you have
    to get up early to fool ol' Bob!
    
    Mikef

Craig played in a lot of other bands but never seemed to keep a solid position
in anyone ... Aztec Camera, Orange Juice, plus a few others.

    Was he in the original lineup of OJ with Edwyn Collins?
    
    Bob

    
    Thanks for the info people. Never would have known!!!
    
    
    jack

    Just noticed that there is a notes conference about the best BAND
    ever.... I am far away from Manchester (in Zurich) and so I don't
    hear any rumors about SMITH reunions etc. 
    
    Is Marr still working with The The?
    
    felix.

    Apparently he is working with The The and Electronic at the moment as
    well as a group called Stex as a sideline.
    
    Tim
    ---

Hi,

	 Can anyone provide me with a complete Smiths Discography ??

Ta

Woz

    EMI.

Any stalwarts out there buy old miseryguts' new album?

Lee

	In my opinion 'Your Arsenal' is the worst one of the four solo
	albums so far. Some tracks are up to the usual Moz standard, but
	the guitar on a lot of the other tracks would have sounded amateurish
	way back in the seventies.

	One track is supposed to be a 'Ride a White Swan' clone. I can't
	really hear it myself, sounds more like the Beatles.

	My personal message to Mozza is.....

		Get rid of that guitarist !!!


	p1

    In a rare drone-a-thon mood the other day I listened to all four
    Morrissey albums in a row, and boy are they bad (begs the question as
    to why I had somehow _bought_ two of them). Dirge after dirge with the
    wonderful wonderful highlights (Suedehead, Everyday is Like Sunday,
    umm, err) being drowned out again and again by a man whining pitifully
    for it all to end -- and Morrissey wasn't doing so well either.
    
    Piers

I have got most of the Smith stuff and still think it's some of the best 
pop of the 80ies - but I never liked/bought any Morissey solo stuff.. 

I saw him on TV performing at the Leysin/Switzerland open air festival a few 
weeks ago - my opinion: "I think it's over..."

FeliX.

    The Smiths lps were rereleased in the UK yesterday, with a limited
    edition 10 inch vinyl set also.  I got Meat is Murder and The Queen is
    Dead on 10", anyone know if the large stores in Reading have them?  Or
    if the CDs are full price?  
    
    TA
    
    Mikef

Just read a very good interview with Johnny Marr in the Decmeber
issue of 'Select' magazine, well worth a read if anybody's
interested. He's about to start work on a new Electronic album
with Barney Sumner. For all those who want The Smiths to reform,
he finally lays it to rest, mind you he didn't rule out teaming
up with Morrissey, just the name. The Smiths are dead, but
'Morrissey and Marr' is something that could possibly happen
when the time is right.

I agree with alot of the sentiment about Morrissey's solo
offerings, maybe that's due to the way they used to write.
In the interview, Marr says that he wrote the music first,
then gave it to Morrissey to write the lyrics.

Rich

    
    
    
    Its surely all over as far as this note goes,
    
    No entries for over a year.......R.I.P
    
    Seen Electrafixion...old echo & the bunnymen. Ian McCulloch fronts this
    band.. best band I've heard since.. well... The Smiths......
    
    
    			 ... over and finally ....DEAD.....
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