Conference marvin::uk_music

    Hi Dougie,
    
    As I remember it "A Girl I used to know" has been out as a single
    once already but didn't do anything - God alone knows why.
    As for Mary's Prayer - 3rd time lucky ...
    
    Steve P

    Steve, I wasn't aware that this was the THIRD time around for "Mary's
    Prayer", which (as the NME says) makes it deserving of the 1988
    Prefab Sprout "When Loves Break Down" Award For Persistence - for
    once, I'll congratulate Mr. Branson's Virgin organisation!
    
    However, I WAS aware that "A Girl I Used To Know" had preceded "M.P.",
    and I can recall my disappointment when it 'bombed'...maybe next
    time around it'll fare better.
    
    Incidentally, "Davy" was also a single - the one before "A.G.I.U.T.K.",
    and I have to say that this was a poor choice.
    
    Steve, I think these earlier releases contained a fair smattering
    of non-album material - you don't happen to know any of the titles?
    (a cover version of Bowie's "Kooks" appears on the CD single release
    of "M.P.").

    
    Re .2
    
    Kooks - When I saw D.W. at Wembly (supporting Simply Red) they
    did a version of Kooks and I thought it was brill!  And I'm
    a keen Bowie fan too!
    
    Loosie
    

    Hmm.....re. .3, and my prediction about "A Girl I Used To KNow",
    I read with some disappointment at the week-end that a re-mixed
    (what else?) version of "Davy" is to be the next single.  I'd like
    to think that it might be second time lucky, but in reality I don't
    see this being a hit.  Then again, maybe that's not their aim.....

    I loved "Marys Prayer" and thought "AGIUTK" was even better. However,
    DAVY is a lousy choice for the next single - I guess it may be big
    third time around.
    
    Having said that, I honestly don't believe that there is much "single"
    material on the album. It's not bouncy singalong sausage machine
    pop a la Kylie Minogue and in my opinion is far too good ever to
    chart ( Can anyone imagine "Ruby's Silver Wedding" at number 1 ?)
    
    I would like to hear more of Danny Wilson, but don't anticipate
    them ever being a singles band unless they change their style
    drastically - which I hope they don't.
    
    Steve P

    Steve, the more I think about, the crazier it seems to release DAVY
    again as opposed to AGIUTK (clearly a more commercial number - if
    sales are what the group and the record company are after).  I suppose
    it may succeed in the wake of the immense popularity of MP, and
    with airplay guaranteed on all the major stations, the probable
    intention is to get more people to invest in the album.
    
    Speaking of which, I agree with you that there's very little in
    the way of potential hit singles (although the thought of RUBYS
    GW at No. 1 is positively frightening - my least favourite track
    on the album).  If they'd been really adventurous, they could've
    gone for "I Won't Be There When You Get Home" as the follow-up to
    MP.....a superb track in every sense.
    
    I think I asked this earlier, but does anyone have details of the
    non-album tracks on the various earlier releases?  Someone wrote
    to the NME last week complaining that the same two tracks appear
    on the flip sides of both the (original) AGIUTK and DAVY 12" singles,
    which is a bit of a bummer, but it also states that the new (yeah,
    re-mixed) version of DAVY will have ABERDEEN plus two brand new
    tracks on the flip of the 12".
    
    Dougie_who's_had_the_album_for_months_now

    Am I the only punter who can't stop whistling tunes from Steely
    Dan's 'Pretzel Logic' after listening to 'Meet Danny Wilson'?
    
    Richard.

    
    
    I find I'm reminded more of "Can't buy a Thrill" than PL.
    
    'Only a fool would say that' and 'Turn that Heartbeat over again'
    must have inspired more than a couple of tracks on 'Meet Danny Wilson'
    
    Wouldn't you say?
    
    
    Michael
    

    Re. .9 - Richard, what you say is quite true.  Steely Dan have
    obviously been a BIG influence on Danny Wilson over the years. Indeed,
    the EP of which 'Davy' is the leading track, is entitled "Strepzil
    Logic"!!!  Subtle, huh?
    
    Never mind all that, it's still one of the most refreshing (debut)
    albums I've heard in ages.  Fave track at the moment is "I Won't
    Be Here When You Get Home" - love the horn arrangement!

Not relishing being in a minority of one in this note, but going ahead anyway in
the interests of balance - I bought the album "Meet Danny Wilson", on the
strength of the very favourable reports contained herein. The prospect of some
"new" Steely Dan tracks was enticing. In the event I was extremely disappointed
with the album. I could hear vague recollections of Steely Dan, but this isn't
in the same class.

Sorry.

Keith

p.s. The album (vinyl) is now for sale if anybody wants to make me an offer.

    Anyone heard Danny Wilson's new single, THE SECOND SUMMER OF LOVE
    yet?  It's had a lot of airplay on wonderful Radio One, but as yet,
    has failed to crack the charts.
    
    Surprising, as it's *very* commercial, with a catchy 'hook', and
    a zany video where all the action is in reverse (they even learned
    the words to the song backwards in order to make it more authentic!).
    
    The new album, BEBOP MOP TOP, promises to be a good bit punchier
    than their debut, and should be out in the early part of July.

    It sounds like a song from the late 50s/early 60s.
    
    It's good, but IMO, it won't sell enough to be a a biggie; it's
    one of those that sound good on the radio, especially the car radio
    with the roof open on a hot day....or on a beach tranny - you can
    almost hear the waves and seagulls in the background.
    
    It'll probably have loads of airplay but won't chart, which is a
    shame. 
    
    Those who buy the singles that are top-chart material aren't old
    enough to have had a *first* summer of love yet, never mind a second
    one - at least not enough to identify with the song ;->
    
    Ah yes, I remember it well......
    
    Dave
   

    Well, I bought BEBOP MOP TOP last week-end, and after the first
    three or four listens, I reckon it's a much smoother, if slightly
    less exciting album than their debut.  It certainly has an overall
    more commercial feel to it, and I'd imagine that we'll see quite
    a few singles being released off it.  I can't recall track names
    at the moment, but there are definately at least two sure-fire hits
    to follow-up on THE SECOND SUMMER OF LOVE.
    
    Mind you, it's reputed that they recorded around fifty songs for
    the album (which lead to rumours of it being a double), so, who
    knows, maybe they'll have some other goodies targetted for chartland.
    
    Footnote for local noters : They're playing the 'Piv' sometime in
    Sept. - tickets on sale through Trash in about a fortnight's time.

    I have to say that I'm disappointed at the (record co.?) choice
    of the second single from BEBOP MOPTOP, NEVER GONNA BE THE SAME.
    Although it's a fine song in its own right, there are *at least*
    TWO other obvious hit singles on the album - I CAN'T WAIT and 
    I WAS WRONG (the former featuring Kit Clark on lead vocals, for
    a change).
    
    I can't understand why this band aren't more popular - after seeing
    them at the Pavilion the other night, I'm convinced that they're
    producing some of the finest music originating from Scotland in
    recent years, and what's more, they are *superb* at re-producing
    it in a live setting.
    
    I seem to be the sole contributor to this topic - *please*, are
    there NO other Danny Wilson fans out there in Notesland?  ;-)

    
    
    Hey, Dougie - you're not the only DW fan around here (as you well
    know 8-)).
    
    After Mon night's superb gig at Ayr, the new album is top of my
    'to do' list for the weekend.   
    
    BTW, the only slight negative point about Mon night's show was a
    guy behind me who was singing along with *every* song and making
    a great job of drowning out Gary Clark's vocal - and he had a few
    thousand watts behind him!
    
    Any idea who this guy could have been Doug?

    
    Michael
    

    
    
    Bought BEBOP MOPTOP at the weekend and have been playing it non
    stop since.   You hit the nail on the head Dougie with you comparison
    of both albums.   BEBOP MOPTOP is a more commercial album, and not
    so adventurous as MEET DM.   You would normally expect that order
    to be reversed.
    
    However, the quality of the songs is (IMHO) of a higher order than
    the first album.   A very good buy.
    
    BTW, the sleeve credits say "Lyrics printed with permission ...etc"
    I didn't get a lyric sheet with mine.  Did you get one Dougie?

    
    Michael
    

    
    
    Very sad to report (somewhat belatedly) that Danny Wilson have broken
    up.  That's ruined my year.  The usual "musical differences" bit.
    
    I will however be on the look-out for their singer/songwriter/guitarist
    Gary Clark - who has far too much talent to fade into obscurity.
    
    
    
    Michael  :-(
    
    

    Re. last (somewhat belatedly!) ...
    
    I also was very sad to witness the demise of this (IMHO) truly excellent 
    little combo, after just two widely_critically_acclaimed but unfortunately
    greatly_undersold albums - I personally prefer the first one over the
    second, but there's not much in it (oh, and FWIW, I think both are now
    available at 'mid-price').
    
    Two pieces of good news tho' ... first of all, Gary Clark (lead singer
    and chief songwriter) is reportedly demo-ing loads of new songs, with
    an EP release touted for October or thereabouts.  This EP will be the
    forerunner to his first solo album, which will most likely see the
    light of day in the early part of next year (not sure if he actually
    has a 'deal' with anyone at the moment).
    
    Secondly, a 'Best Of' Danny Wilson is to be released by Virgin next
    month, and the superb news is that initial copies will come complete
    with a (wait for it) 'limited edition' freebie album of 'b' sides,
    cover versions and rare live stuff.  Heaven knows what they'll cobble
    together for the main album, but the freebie job sounds like it could
    contain some quite enticing material (see earlier replies to this topic
    for mention of non-LP tracks).
    
    - Dougie