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Conference gyro::internet_toolss

Title:Internet Tools
Notice:Report ALL NETSCAPE Problems directly to kdlucas@netscape.com.rnet? Read note 448.L for beginner information.
Moderator:teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer
Created:Fri Jun 25 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4714
Total number of notes:40609

4600.0. "Internet Explorer 4.0" by axel.zko.dec.com::FOLEY (http://axel.zko.dec.com) Tue Apr 08 1997 17:42


	This note is a placeholder for discussion of Microsoft Internet
	Explorer 4.0 Preview Platform release. (Now in general
	release)

								mike
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4600.1can't find a menu to import...KANATA::ZUTRAUENalways lookin' to learnTue Apr 08 1997 19:464
    anyone know how to import one's netscape bookmarks into IE4's
    favorite's file?
    
    Thx, Pete
4600.2SKYLAB::FISHERGravity: Not just a good idea. It's the law!Tue Apr 08 1997 19:575
IE3 used to do it automagically when you installed.

Anyone know how to go the other way from IE to Netscape?

Burns
4600.3but not when upgrading... :(KANATA::ZUTRAUENalways lookin' to learnTue Apr 08 1997 20:272
    re:-.1 ah yes, but i was looking for an updated one now that I have upgraded
    to IE4.... can't seem to get there from here.... :(      
4600.4axel.zko.dec.com::FOLEYhttp://axel.zko.dec.comTue Apr 08 1997 20:478

	There are some netscape to bookmark and vice versa tools at
	http://www.windows95.com

							mike

	I have a zip file with the FULL 15.6MB kit available.
4600.5CIRCUS::GOETZETibetan karma not Made in ChinaTue Apr 08 1997 21:537
    Finally IE does rollover buttons using JavaScript. Nice.
    
    Has anyone got the "monitor favorites" to work? It's
    highlighting all my favorites every 15 minutes even though
    the pages didn't change.
    
       erik
4600.6teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerThu Apr 10 1997 14:108
	Would anyone who has installed IE 4.0 tell me whether they have any
  problems downloading software from the IBG Software Distribution Server?
  I need to know whether the problems that I reported with it have been fixed.

	IE 4.0 Preview is available in the Field Test Area of the IBG Software
  Distribution Server.

		Danny
4600.7nova05.vbo.dec.com::BERGERThu Apr 10 1997 14:517
Danny

I just tried, it still wants to save the file as 
"FT_software-request.TMP", but other than that the download works and 
WinZip seems happy with the resulting file.

	Vincent
4600.8IE 4 lost my Netscape Icon!STAR::PITCHERSteve Pitcher/Pathworks for OpenVMSFri Apr 11 1997 12:2312
    I installed MS IE V4 Preview first thing yesterday morning.  It went
    quite well.
    
    The most puzzling thing I've noticed, is that I've lost my Netscape
    Icon!  In addition to IE, I've got Netscape Communicator icons on my
    desktop, and now the Netscape icon is a simple dumb picture of a
    window.  I tried 'change icon' and it says that the .EXE file contains
    no icon.
    
    Is this part of Microsoft's war against Netscape?
    
    -	stp
4600.9QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centFri Apr 11 1997 19:496
I don't think so - I saw this happen recently unrelated (I am pretty sure) to
any installation of MSIE (I don't have 4.0 yet).  The only way I could get
the right icon back was to reinstall Navigator - the image itself didn't have
any icons.  I was perplexed.

				Steve
4600.10Views on IE 4.0WOTVAX::lzodhcp-182-48-148.lzo.dec.com::hiltonghiltong@mail.dec.comTue May 06 1997 10:214
What's the verdict on v4? Is is stable enough to replace 3.02 as my 
everyday browser?

Greg
4600.11axel.zko.dec.com::FOLEYhttp://axel.zko.dec.comTue May 06 1997 13:3213

	I use it every day on a Windows NT Intel system. For the
	most part, it runs well, but I almost always have a 
	crash every day of Explorer.exe. It restarts everything
	in the Startup folder. I usually just reboot the system
	to start everything up clean.

	It's not bug free (it's not even Beta yet!) but it has
	some neat features. I especially like the Active Desktop,
	tho I haven't had much time to play with it.

							mike
4600.12JAMIN::OSMANEric Osman, dtn 226-7122Tue May 06 1997 13:3412
    
    I threw out the cd for IE4.0 when I saw my colleagues screen leave
    refresh poop all over the background.
    
    When they fix the basic refresh bugs I'll try it again.
    
    (As engineer on excursion x server, it's critical that no other
    products be contributing to refresh poop, since it makes it impossible
    to debug our own)
    
    /Eric
    
4600.13QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue May 06 1997 15:284
I installed it, found that IE didn't display even simple pages properly, and
then uninstalled it.

				Steve
4600.14BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurTue May 06 1997 16:427
    I tried it too (NT 4.0). It crashed my explorer too, but right at
    startup, and every other attempt to restart it immediately crashed it -
    kind of difficult to work without a shell.
    
    I managed to unistall by starting the unistall program from task
    manager.
    
4600.15Not quite yet, but soon...BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue May 06 1997 16:539
    It has some very nice features but is buggy.  I saw the same problems
    as were seen in the last reply.  I managed to turn off the active
    desktop and have not had the same problems.  The explorer itself is
    fast but has problems with certain Java applets that worked just fine
    in 3.02.
    
    I would definitely NOT get rid of 3.02 just yet.
    
    --Geoff
4600.16PCBUOA::BAYJJim, PortablesTue May 06 1997 18:5219
    >     <<< Note 4600.13 by QUARK::LIONEL "Free advice is worth every cent" >>>
    >
    >I installed it, found that IE didn't display even simple pages
    >properly, and then uninstalled it.
    
    Do you mean really *incorrectly*, as in doing erroneous things, or just
    doing things "different" from Netscape.  I try to test out my pages
    with both, because they tend to interpret things so very differently. 
    A least common denominator is very difficult to come up with.
    
    Sadly, I don't think either one can truly lay claim to "right", as
    helpful as that might be.
    
    On the other hand, if you have noticed specific things that really seem
    wrong, rather than a different implementation, I think that information
    would be quite useful to a lot of folks.
    
    jeb
    
4600.17QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue May 06 1997 20:397
I mean doing things differently than MSIE 3.02, such as fonts too big and
it ignores the controls to adjust them, plus it crashing on a frequent basis.
I was not using the "active desktop".  I don't have Netscape installed on
my home PC.  I also didn't like the warning in the README that Acrobat Reader
didn't work.

				Steve
4600.18READ-ME first, PleaseBLAZER::MIKELISSoftware Partner's Eng. MR01-3/F26Tue May 13 1997 19:199
Read the README that comes with Explorer 4.0 before installing it. 
I've never seen a longer list of known bugs, restrictions, compatibility 
problems, and non-functioning features. I tried Explorer 4.0 on my intel
machine but quickly removed it after it gave me lots of problems. I did see
Microsoft demo it a lot at Tech-Ed last week and it appeared to work for
them-however, maybe they just knew the correct buttons to push :-) 


/james
4600.19QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue May 13 1997 20:213
Reminds me of VAXELN V1 - demos well, not usable in the real world.

				Steve
4600.20Okay hereJOKUR::BOICEWed May 14 1997 14:024
I've been using it for a few weeks now.  It doesn't seem any more bug prone 
than any other Microsoft product I use...  It's okay for me "as is."

- Jim