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I don't know of any.  I went through the same options that you did.

If you can afford it, I can recommend AltaVista Mail as a very fine 
product.  It works extremely well.  Its only drawback is that there 
is no in-house site license for it; you actually have to purchase it 
with real money.

--PSW

    See http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/tools/mail.htm for a pile of
    mail servers, including freeware such as sendmail, EMWAC, and WinDis,
    shareware, and commercial products.
    
    -Tom

I have the same problems. The problem with Netscape mail is the 
well-known InstallShield bug with NT4.0/Alpha I believe. How about 
Netscape producing a kit with the fixed InstallShield ? They've done 
it for Navigator haven't they ?

Anybody from IBG care to comment ?

	Vincent

> I have the same problems. The problem with Netscape mail is the 
> well-known InstallShield bug with NT4.0/Alpha I believe. How about 
> Netscape producing a kit with the fixed InstallShield ? They've done 
> it for Navigator haven't they ?
> 
	I could probably fix that.  However, since I don't know if they have
  tested it on NT 4.0 I don't care to take the risk.

> Anybody from IBG care to comment ?

	See above.

		Danny

Thanks all for the replies... for the moment I think
that I will play the trial version "game" until I can
get approval to buy AV-mail or wait until Netscape puts
out a patch (wont hold my breath :)  ).

-John 

    
    
    I'm using AV Mail.  It cost my cost center something like
    $12.  GREAT product for that money.
    
    Kevin
    

Where did you get a $12 price for AV Mail?  I thought we had to 
purchase it at the regular customer price, which is around $800.

--PSW

    
    
    Re: -1
                                                       Standard Cost
    
     QB-505AA-SB    V2.0      AltaVista Mail Server    $12.39
                              Windows NT                      
                              LIC/CDRM   
    
    That did it for me.
    
    Kevin
    
    
                                                              
    
    

>     QB-505AA-SB    V2.0      AltaVista Mail Server    $12.39
>                              Windows NT                      
>                              LIC/CDRM   
 

Where does one go to order things like this... is there
some online location?

Thanks,
	-John   

    
    
    Re: -1
    
    >>Where does one go to order things like this... is there
    >>some online location?

    In my case I filled out an online order form and sent it to my 
    manager for approval.  Your group probably has some purchasing
    process you must follow to spend $12.39.
    
    Kevin
    
    
    
    

http://cassidy.mro.dec.com/ieg should be able to satisfy these orders.  It's
a bit archaic, but it works.

j.

After a bit of digging I have found a server called Post.Office
from software.com (www.software.com).... they have a 10 user
version that one can download for free...

They have Intel and Alpha natives, runs on Nt4.0 and 3.51.

For some one like me whom only needed the one user for local 
e-mail this seems to be a good solution... I will run it for
a while and see what comes of it...

As for the AV-mail ... when I looked up the kit price it was
in the multiple hundreds range... and I could not find any
reference to the ~$12 price.

thanks to all those whom feb back input to my original post.

-John 

RE: .12

The multi-hundreds price for AV Mail is the external price.  Apparently IEG or 
somebody has arranged for internal distribution at media costs.  Our department 
secretary was able to order at the $12 price using that Q number through the 
usual internal ordering channels.  The kit duly arrived yesterday.

--PSW

RE: .12

I use post.office from software.com and it works well - at least I have
no complaints.

--roger

> somebody has arranged for internal distribution at media costs.

So why don't we get one kit of each AV product, put it on the network, and have 
no media costs?

PJDM

re Note 4555.15 by 60675::nessus.cao.dec.com::Mayne:

> > somebody has arranged for internal distribution at media costs.
> 
> So why don't we get one kit of each AV product, put it on the network, and have 
> no media costs?
  
        You mean, use the Digital Intranet?

> So why don't we get one kit of each AV product, put it on the 
> network, and have no media costs?

Because the AltaVista group still wants to count the number of
units it ships and would prefer many (no-profit) sales to
Digital to a single sale.

I know of one business unit which negotiated its own deal
for tunnel licenses.  Right now, that's a more likely 
option than finding someone to pay for a license for the
whole corporation.

> Because the AltaVista group still wants to count the number of
> units it ships

Continuing to be obvious, isn't that the point of Danny's IBG server: to count 
how many kits get downloaded for licensing purposes? If Netscape are happy with 
it, why can't AltVista be happy with it?

PJDM