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Conference gyro::internet_toolss

Title:Internet Tools
Notice:Report ALL NETSCAPE Problems directly to kdlucas@netscape.com.rnet? Read note 448.L for beginner information.
Moderator:teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer
Created:Fri Jun 25 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4714
Total number of notes:40609

496.0. "Image mapping, what is wrong ?" by PRSSUD::PELIKS (Internaute,dans l'info infinie) Fri Apr 08 1994 13:22

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496.1JEDI::CAUDILLKelly - Net Tech Support - 226-6815Fri Apr 08 1994 14:019
496.2Configuration files wrongNUTS2U::LITTLETodd Little - Reuse Technology GroupFri Apr 08 1994 15:5721
496.3More and more confusedPRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieFri Apr 08 1994 17:1334
496.4PLUGH::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!"Fri Apr 08 1994 17:5715
496.5Some hopefully enlightening infoNUTS2U::LITTLETodd Little - Reuse Technology GroupFri Apr 08 1994 18:3051
496.6ScriptAlias not recognized in httpd.conf ?????PRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieWed Apr 20 1994 16:41129
496.7try srm.confNRSTA2::BRODERICKYou're in a WWWeb of twisty little passagesWed Apr 20 1994 20:435
496.8Alias, alias, who's got the aliasNUTS2U::LITTLETodd Little - Reuse Technology GroupWed Apr 20 1994 20:496
496.9PRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieThu Apr 21 1994 13:2351
496.10Part of standard httpd distributionNUTS2U::LITTLETodd Little - Reuse Technology GroupThu Apr 21 1994 13:368
496.11Me, again ! with all my filesPRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieTue Apr 26 1994 16:05286
496.12Old config files?NUTS2U::LITTLETodd Little - Reuse Technology GroupTue Apr 26 1994 19:3022
496.13httpd.tar.Z for Ultrix/Mips ?PRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieWed Apr 27 1994 16:3224
496.14SOFBAS::MAYERInternet: The Buck Starts Here!Wed Apr 27 1994 17:028
496.15Paranoia strikes?NUTS2U::LITTLETodd Little - Reuse Technology GroupWed Apr 27 1994 17:3525
496.16You know what ? : IT WORKS !PRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieThu May 05 1994 13:2640
496.17... and the result is :PRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieWed May 25 1994 07:326
496.18DRDAN::KALIKOWWorld-Wide Web: Postmodem CultureWed May 25 1994 13:1611
496.19home.html, sweet home.html ...PRSSUD::PELIKSInternaute,dans l'info infinieFri May 27 1994 06:529
496.20BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Thu Jan 30 1997 19:1342

	Ok.... I don't understand the problem here. What I have below is a page
I have with an image map. On one persons PC he gets the background color just
fine, but no image map (just the outline). He was using Netscape 2.0. He put
3.0 on his system and it still does the same thing.

	On another persons PC he gets everything except for the last line. That 
is a partial. He is running 3.0.

	On my vxt running netscape for openvms (3.0 beta) I get everything 
everytime perfectly fine.

	Each machine is running off of the same node. Is there a way the image
map should be configured to prevent this from happening? Does an ftp site
(where everything sits) not always show graphics as well as an http site????





<html>
<body bgcolor="#990033" link="#990033" vlink="#990033">
<center>
<a>
<img src="cont.gif" 
 height=500 width=200 usemap="#esdmap" alt="Table of Contents" ISMAP>
</a>
</center>

<map name="esdmap">
  <area coords="0,0,190,40" href="cdm.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,40,190,100" href="hbm_form.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,100,190,150" href="hbm.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,150,190,195" href="hhboards.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,195,190,235" href="mhboards.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,235,190,295" href="esd_provide.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,295,190,335" href="test.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,335,190,380" href="latch.html" target="fill">
  <area coords="0,380,190,440" href="hlboards.html" target="fill">
</map>
</html>
496.21Just a guessCIMBAD::CROSBYThu Jan 30 1997 19:345
You have no </body> tag.

Browsers can be finicky.

gc
496.22BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Thu Jan 30 1997 20:123

	That didn't correct it..... :-(
496.23so what do I know?CIMBAD::CROSBYFri Jan 31 1997 10:530
496.24PEACHS::GHEFFGot a head with wingsFri Jan 31 1997 11:538
    <a>
    
    That bare <a> tag looks odd to me.  I don't think I've ever seen one
    without an href= in it before.  Also I'm used to seeing the client side
    map definition between the <a tag and the </a> tag  along with the <img
    ...>
    
    #Gary
496.25One guess: wrong file formatORION::GENTRevolutionize yourselfFri Jan 31 1997 11:5610
    re: .20
    
    Are the three users viewing the files locally (as opposed to from a
    web server)? If the files are on a VMS disk and viewed via "Open
    File..." it is likely that the file format of the image file is 
    inappropriate for the browsers. Probably stream instead of block.
    This would explain why the image is viewable from VMS but not from
    the PC. Try changing the file format to a 512 byte block file.
    
    --Andrew
496.26BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Jan 31 1997 13:5724
| <<< Note 496.25 by ORION::GENT "Revolutionize yourself" >>>

| Are the three users viewing the files locally (as opposed to from a web 
| server)? 

	They are using either the pa.dec.com or crl.dec.com connection. I don't
know if you view that as locally or if you view it as a web server. The ftp
site itself can only be viewed from within DEC.

| If the files are on a VMS disk 

	Which they are.

| and viewed via "Open File..." it is likely that the file format of the image 
| file is inappropriate for the browsers. 

	It's viewed by connecting to a ftp site. So it is done the standard
way. Would the block (512) still be an issue with this? 



Glen


496.27http is the standard for viewing HTML pagesPARZVL::ogodhcp-125-112-230.ogo.dec.com::kennedynuncam non paratusWed Feb 05 1997 19:0714
>        It's viewed by connecting to a ftp site. So it is 
> done the standard way. Would the block (512) still be an 
> issue with this? 

The standard way is by connecting to a webserver
(URL starts with http:).  If they're really connecting to
an ftp site (URL starting with ftp:), that could be the
problem. 

I also don't quite understand what you mean by "they
go thru the pa.dec.com or crl.dec.com connection".  I can
only think you're talking about proxy servers - which 
should not be used when connecting to internal web (or
ftp) servers.
496.28BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Feb 05 1997 19:2720
| <<< Note 496.27 by PARZVL::ogodhcp-125-112-230.ogo.dec.com::kennedy "nuncam non paratus" >>>


| The standard way is by connecting to a webserver (URL starts with http:). If 
| they're really connecting to an ftp site (URL starting with ftp:), that could 
| be the problem.

	Where bigq doesn't have any servers of their own, they put together the
ftp site. And the images as a whole seem to have their problems. Its a hit or
miss thing.

| only think you're talking about proxy servers - which should not be used when 
| connecting to internal web (or ftp) servers.

	Do you mean they should not be used, or do you mean netscape uses some
other means of connecting internally? 



Glen
496.29if you're testing html, use httpPARZVL::ogodhcp-125-112-230.ogo.dec.com::kennedynuncam non paratusWed Feb 05 1997 19:3525
>        Where bigq doesn't have any servers of their own, 
> they put together the ftp site. And the images as a whole 
> seem to have their problems. Its a hit or miss thing.

maybe I don't understand, but it sounds like you might
be wasting a whole lot of time chasing problems which
don't exist when you see the pages via a webserver (and
I presume that's where they're going to end up).  We
do have servers even for OpenVMS now, so why not use one?


| only think you're talking about proxy servers - which 
| should not be used when
| connecting to internal web (or ftp) servers.

>        Do you mean they should not be used, or do you mean 
> netscape uses some other means of connecting internally? 

Netscape does not need to use a proxy when connecting to 
internal sites.  It's only when you want to get to servers
outside of our network that you need a proxy.  You should
configure your browsers for No Proxy on .dec.com (or *.dec.com
if you're using MSIE). 

496.30BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Feb 05 1997 22:0418
| <<< Note 496.29 by PARZVL::ogodhcp-125-112-230.ogo.dec.com::kennedy "nuncam non paratus" >>>


| We do have servers even for OpenVMS now, so why not use one?

	If we had access to make changes, then yeah, that would be cool. Up
until this point any server that we had wanted to have the pages at ended up
not being any good as we need access and not to have someone else make the
changes. Reason being is because there are lab schedules that change daily. So
if one exists that we can have access to, please let me know.

re: proxie

	Great! Thanks!


Glen

496.31does your management know about this?PARZVL::tunsrv2-tunnel.imc.das.dec.com::kennedynuncam non paratusFri Feb 07 1997 13:2313
I really don't know what to say.  I don't see how someone
could be expected to develop web pages if they don't have
a web server on which to test.

If you're just doing standard html, then you could do
the testing on any old server (there's even one for
Windows95 - probably available via the IBG server or
as a "first version's free" download from MS.  If you're
doing scripts or other programming that is specific
to VMS, then you're out of luck. I don't have a VMS server,
but perhaps someone else here could help you out. 
Where the heck is this stuff going to run? Any chance you
could get a separate test area for staging/testing?