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    I discovered this show also just a short while ago, and quickly became
    a fan.  Do not tape any episodes.
    
    It has a Miami Vice vivid color  perspective, and I think Chris'
    outfits are just great.  Course, Rita is my main focus, and her
    wardrobe dept makes sure her threads do her justice.  Yes, there is a 
    lot of skin, but past that there is also some good substance to the 
    stories.
    
    Will continue to watch.
    
    -Bill

  I don't like it. Oddly enough, my problem with the show is that it is too
moralistic and politically correct. 

  The formula has become far too obvious. The idea is to get some lady on screen
in their underwear, hammer home the fact that they are either a bad girl or they
are someone in a meaningful relationship, to appease the censor, spit out lines
that are overly cute, and move on to the car chase. 

  Nice idea at first but they quickly ran out of material. It got to the point
where I couldn't make it through a show without channel surfing. 

  George 

    
    	I just like to drool while watching Rita.
    
    	8^)
    
    	And the costar [Rob Estes or something like that] was in one of
    	the "Iron Eagle" movies [III I think].
    
    							GTI
    

    I absolutely love this show! I have been a fan of this show for about
    a year now. The wardrobe is great and so is Chris. If anyone watches
    Melrose Place, Chris is Jane's husband in real life and he played in
    a show or two on Melrose. Anyways, the story lines are great and I love
    it when the good guys win in the end.
    
    It's on at different times, sometimes it will be a Sunday, Monday or
    Tuesday night at 10:00 if there isn't a move on USA.

    RE:  -.1 
    	"...if there isn't a move on USA."
    
    	Fruedian slip - move, as in to put a move on someone???  ;-)  ;-)
    
    
    (couldn't resist...)   ;-)
    
    -Bill

    
    
    I have a question RE: last Sunday's 10:00 episode (3/27).  The episode
    was very good except I hated the way it ended.  The show was about two
    story lines but the one I wa interested in was the one involving Chris. 
    There was a DA that was "stalking" him as far as she was being his
    secret admirer sending him flowers and a teddy bear and all kinds of
    stuff.  She tries to have Rita killed because she's jealous of Chris'
    relationship with her and then towards the end of the show, Chris goes
    to her house to help her with something and she coaxes him into her
    bedroom and she's scantily dressed and he sees the small "shrine" that
    she has idolizing him and she wants him to nmake love to her.  MEan
    while, Rita finds out about the attempted hit on her and who called for
    it and heads to the DA's house.  The DA points a gun to Chris and then
    she shoots him.  In the next scene you see Rita and another cop walking
    into the DA's house and they walk into the bedroom and there's Chris in
    bed with the DA.  The DA tells them to leave and the next thing you
    know, she shoots herself and Chris is out cold in the bed with a huge
    gunshot wound in his stomach.  They show him being taken to the
    hospital in the ambulance with Rita riding with him and you know that
    it's really bad but then the show ENDS!  That's it !  No "to be
    continued" or anything!
    
    Does anyone know if the Sunday 10:00 episodes is considered the
    "regular" time slot and do the shows continue from week to week like
    Melrose Place does?  I can't believe they would end the episode that
    way!  Oh, that burns me up.  I mean it's obvious he lives otherwise
    there wouldn't be a show, but still......
    
    Any answers?
    
    THanks in advance
    S
    (You can bet, I'll be watching this Sunday's episode)
    

    RE:  .6
    
    Yes, that one got me too.  Don't know what's going on.  
    
    -Bill

    ARGH!!!  I was hoping someone in here would know what they were doing
    with Chris!  My wife and I are both avid fans of "Silk Stalkings" (in
    fact, we've not seen an episode of "Northern Exposure" all year so we
    can watch the new episode Monday at 10).  I can't believe they would
    leave us with that kind of cliffhanger, and we were both EXTREMELY
    disappointed that Monday's show was a repeat.
    
    Anyone know the phone # for the USA network?  I'm gonna call them and
    complain!
    
    NAZZ

    
    
    Nazz,
    
    If you find out that number, let me know...I'll call too!  I'm really
    taking a liking to this show and I love the chemistry between Chris and
    Rita.
    
    I watched Sunday's back to back episodes and then I watched/taped
    Monday's 10:00 episode and was very disappointed that it wasn't the follow
    up to that episode.
    
    Arrgghhh!
    
    

    This is a Steven J Crandell(sp?) show...
    
    one thing I think he does which seems to bug people here (about the end
    of that show) is SJC let you put the end to the show (in your mind).
    which to makes his shows very good TV, he makes you think and after all
    the hero nevers dies :') so use your imagination !
    
    Chris

    
    	Steven J. Cannell
    
    							GTI

    
    Can someone who watches this show fairly frequently tell me why Chris
    and Rita call each other Sam sometimes?
    
    I think the interjection of the character Cotton every now and then
    adds some fun.  I really like this show and wished I had caught it from
    the beginning.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Serena
    p.s.
    
    I also noticed (in the past few epsiodes that I've seen) that the show
    went through more than one captain.  I think I like Capt. Lipshitz
    (sp?) the best, althought they could have given him a better name! :)
    
    

    Sam huh...I would guess its just a nick name kinda thing, as that is
    what my Dad calls me from time to time (never asked why, maybe I should
    ?) 
    
    Capts. yes 3 at last count, the orginal one was (mind draws a blank, he
    play chicken George in Roots....agh ! well in real life he was hit by a
    car jogging at night or something like that) the replacement was not so
    great....and Lipshitz, I like him myself....
    
    Chris

    
    	Ben Vereen.
    
    							GTI

    yeah that him, he did come back after he got better but it seems he was
    still replaced....
    
    Chris

    That's how you can tell what season you're in, by who is the captain!
    Ben Vereen was the first, Lt. Hudson was the second, and Lt. Lipshitz
    is from this, the third season.
    
    The reason Chris and Rita occasionally call each other Sam is for
    golfer Sam Snead.  I know there's a reason how this came to pass,
    but I can't remember it!
    
    NAZZ

    
    
    NAZZ,
    
    By the title of your last reply, I'm taking it that the "regular"
    season for Silk Stalkings has ended with the episode of Chris being
    taken to the hospital in the ambulance?  Isn't that a little early? 
    Most shows end their season in May.  I hope that they do air the
    episode that cotinues with that story.  But alas, for now, I tape both
    episodes that air on Sunday night and then the episode that airs on
    Monday night.  It does irratate me that USA airs Mondays episode as one
    of the Sunday episodes.  I tape both nights though, just in case.
    
    

    Re: .16
    
    >The reason Chris and Rita occasionally call each other Sam is for
    >golfer Sam Snead.
    
    I think it's related to the way they sometimes use "golfing" as a
    euphemism for sex.
    
    
    Re: in general
    
    I've watched this for years, so I must like it.  Sure, it's formulaic
    and exploitative, but I do like the chemistry between the partners. 
    They've done some interesting stories that springboard off headline
    cases (a variation on the Menendez murders before the trial made them
    hot, a take on the Amy Fisher scenario).  Sometimes the detective work
    is actually pretty good.
    
    Each season they've had a different coroner; Dr. Weinstein was my
    favorite.  I have to say I'm really not fond of Capt. Lipschitz.  He
    and his wife (Frannie) had been on a couple of early episodes as Marv
    (the Mattress King) and Sylvia.  They were cute as occasional
    characters (like Cotton), but I don't like seeing as much of them as I
    do now.  I really liked Ben Vereen, and Robert Gosset(?) was fun.
    
    Speaking of recurring characters, Cotton's brother has got to go. 
    They're trying too hard with that one.

    
    
    Cotton's brother?  Boy, I missed that character.  When did they
    introduce him?  I have only recently started watching it and I can't
    seem to put any order on the ones I've seen.  One week it's one
    captian, then next week it's still yet another captain.
    
    I thought it was strange to see an episode this past week where (as
    referred to in the last reply) Captain Lipshitz was another character. 
    How did htey ever pull him into being the captain.  How did they write
    the transition?
    
    RE: -1
    
    Do you happen to have any of the episodes on video that you would be
    willing to lend/rent out?  I'd like to get more background on this
    show.  Also, do you know what is considered the shows regular timeslot?
    and when the season begins/ends? (new episodes)
    
    Thank  you
    

    They've been doing repeats lately.  As for Captain Lipschitz, they
    didn't really do a transition.  He just showed up, a transfer from New
    York, and they made no mention of the mattress king.  As for Cotton's
    brother, I forget the episode, but he was loading mannequins in
    lingerie into his car, so you'll probably notice it when you see it.

    
    
    I've been on vacation and unable to catch the show.  Does anyone know
    if they aired the follow-up episode of the one where Chris was shot by
    the DA and being taken to the hospital?  I hope I haven't missed it!
    
    Also, any idea when the new season starts?
    
    Thanks in advance...

    They've been in repeats since the cliffhanger shooting.

    
    
    Well, they repeated the "cliffhanger" epsiode where Chris gets shot by
    his secret admirer.  The season premiere airs on September 12th.  Can't
    wait!
    
    FWIW, I saw Rob Estes in a syndicated rerun of Young Riders on USA.  He
    played an Indian. (Sure glad he's moved on to being a cop!)
    
    

    FYI - in case those of the few who like this show missed the
    end of season "cliffhanger" and would like to see it before the new
    sesaon starts...USA is airing it again on their Sunday night at 10:00
    timeslot.
    
    FWIW.
    
    

    Re: .23
    
    >FWIW, I saw Rob Estes in a syndicated rerun of Young Riders on USA.  He
    >played an Indian.
    
    "Curly to you."  He looked like he was having so much fun!
    
    
    Re: season's premiere
    
    The TV Guide entry for Sept 12 has a moderate spoiler which I'll repeat
    after the formfeed:
    
    
    
    Chris starts the new season trying to recover from the shooting.  So
    it's not clear whether he'll stay on for the whole season, but at least
    he's not dead yet.

    
    The TV Guide says that Monday's (9/12) is a two parter.  But I guess it
    could really be considered a three parter if you want to include the
    season cliff hanger as part one.
    
    I hope Rob stays on.  I don't think the show would last without him. 
    The interaction between Mimi (Rita) and he really works!
    
    

    
    
    Reminder....Season Premiere tonight on USA Network at 10:00.  First of
    a two-parter!
    
    
    

    Glad to see Chris recovered!  Don't know yet if I like Rita's new
    hairdo.  I certainly can understand why Chris felt the way he did at
    the end of the episode, but he is the impulsive type.
    
    Can anyone tell me where I've seen that gorgeous doctor before?  She
    looked very familiar.
    
    NAZZ

    Nancy Valen was in a short-lived show a couple of seasons ago, as a
    teacher, I think.  She's made guest appearances in various places.

    
    
    Atually, I think she was on Silk Stalkings before as another character.
    
    I really like this show and I hope they do a little more character
    development this season. I kind of like Rita's new hirdo.  Chris' new
    haircut is a little lacking though.  I wonder if just Atticus will be
    appearing this season?  Well, I'll be anxious to see how this season
    flows.
    
    Glad to see they kept Chris and didn't try to kill him off and
    introduce a new partner.  I don't think anyone else would have
    "clicked" as well with the Rita character.
    
     

    could someone pls. summarize season opener?  Thanks!

    Here is a brief summary of the season opener, after a FF
    
    
    Chris is slowly but surely recovering from the gunshot wound, which
    did some severe damage to his muscles in the arm and chest.  He has a
    goegeous doctor (of course!) looking after him, who half-heartedly
    turns aside Chris' advances for most of the show before giving in to
    his boyish charm.
    
    He is also doing therapy, and working very hard at it, with a gorgeous
    physical therapist (of course!!) who comes on to Chris, but he turns
    her away since he's trying to score with the doctor.
    
    Meanwhile, Rita has gone through three partners in ten days, none of
    whom can measure up to Chris.  She is assigned a case that looks like
    it's going to be a serial murder, a very ritaulistic slaying with some
    unusual aspects to it.  Rita is volunteering some time at a halfway
    house, where she meets two girls, who of course are going to run into
    this sicko guy that committed the first murder.  Sure enough, one of
    them shows up dead.  After some solid police work, Rita has a bead on
    the driver who supplies the sicko with women.  SHe's going after him,
    and Chris insists on coming along, ensuring Rita he's all right.  They
    gete to the bad guy's place, and chase after him, but to Chris' chagrin
    he almost wounds Rita before she shoots the perp.  Chris is simply not
    strong enough to shoot a gun.
    
    Chris gets disgusted with himself, and quits the force.
    
    NAZZ 

    So, what happened in part 3 ??  Thanks in advance for an update.
    

    Very disappointing.  Way too much emphasis on the sadomasochistic
    tastes of the bad guy, and way too little on Chris' struggle to regain
    his self-confidence.  They had a great chance here and they blew it.
    
    NAZZ

    Not a bad episode last night, but I have a couple of comments I will
    make after the obligatory FF
    
    
    - You KNEW the niece would turn out weird, but that was a bit much!
    
    - Chris having to take the "arresting officer" to a monster truck
      rally was hilarious!
    
    - I definitely do not trust Rita's new beau.  He's just too slick.
    
    NAZZ

    
    I thought the show was funny last night.  I like the way the season has
    been going also.  I noticed that Franny seems to be appearing a lot
    more often now too.  
    
    I've also noticed that they are keeping up with BabeWatch (oops, I mean
    Baywatch) in the scantily clad department.  I wouldn't mind if that
    involved more shots of Chris in that department :)!
    
    All in all, I'll continue to watch throughout the season.
    
    

    It's nice to see them back, but I get the feeling the writers are
    trying too hard, and they've lost some snap with all their straining.  
    The niece bit was rather perfunctory, Rita's romance is pretty
    ordinary.  We don't see Chris and Rita together as much; perhaps that's
    why the snap is missing.

    ARGH!!!!  They changed the actress who plays the doctor twho fixed
    Chris up!!!!!!  And this actress is no match in looks or style for 
    the previous one.  What a disappointment!!!!  
    
    I have a couple of other comments after the FF:
    
    
    I thought this was by far the best episode of the new season.  Instead
    of your usual one or two suspects, there were four.  And the plot,
    while of course a bit of a stretch, made sense to me in a logical if
    unrealistic sort of way.
    
    It was good seeing Rita without that sleazeball boyfriend, at least for
    an episode.
    
    The doctor plannig the lunch "surprise" was way too obvious.  It
    strains credibility to believe Chris didn't see that coming.
    
    NAZZ

    
    I totally forgot to tape this Monday.  I hope USA does their usual and
    runs it again this Sunday.
    
    Has anyone noticed if they still do that?
    

    Is it my imagination or is this show getting racier and racier lately? 
    Whew!  Some of the scenes they have had have been kind of riske'.
    
    I wonder if Rita's new beu pans out or not?  I can't make up my mind if
    I trust him or not.
    
    What do you think?
    

    It's your imagination.  I don't think they're pushing the envelope any
    farther than they used to.

    BTW.... Rita's new boyfriend is none other than Eric Pierpoint, best
    known as George (San) Francisco on Alien Nation.  Weird seeing him with
    hair!!
    

    AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    I thought I recognized that nose!  ;-)
    
    But in this series, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.
    He definitely looks to me to have something to hide.
    
    NAZZ

    
    
    RE: Rita's beau
    
    He was also recently on an episode of FOX's Party of Five.  It looks as
    though he may have just been "discovered!"
    
    BTW - I couldn't watch the episode with Gilbert Godfried (sp?).  I
    can't stand him!  I hope they don't keep bringing his character back!
    
    

    
    	Blasphemy!!
    
    	Gilbert steals the show in almost everything he appears in!!
    	[The one exception I know of is "Aladdin", only because Robin
    	Williams is hard to upstage!!]
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	Oh, Serena ... that explains it!!
    
    	IMO, Gilbert is kind of like Emo Phillips ... one of those
    	comedians who's considered dorky by females.  TOO dorky, as
    	a matter of fact, to be funny.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

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    > 	Oh, Serena ... that explains it!!
    
    	Gee, I don't know how I should take this! :)
    
    >	IMO, Gilbert is kind of like Emo Phillips ... one of those
    >	comedians who's considered dorky by females.  TOO dorky, as
    >	a matter of fact, to be funny.
    
    	I don't think it's so much the fact that he's DORKY, it's just his
    	annoying tone of voice and that every one of his characters
    	is exactly the same in everything he does! 
    
    	Martin Short is DORKY but I think some of his stuff is funny (note
    	I said some).
    
    	Where's Cotton been?
    
    
  
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    AN excellent episode last night, but marred by two things:
    
    1) Tanya Roberts STILL can't act!
    
    2) The promos for next week's show.
    
    I understand that they want to build up the ratings for that episode,
    but the way the cut the promos was shameless and removed almost any
    element of suspence from next week.  I wrote this criticism with that
    in mind, meaning I hope I didn't give anything away.
    
    NAZZ

  Strange, I don't recall ever seeing an episode of Silk Stalkings that had
any suspense. But then I haven't seen it in a bit.

  Seems they usually went:

    - Some crime happened, man and woman cop investigated.
    - Bad guys characters get developed. They sneer a lot.
    - Good guy cops have run in with boss. Everyone stares and talks cool.
    - Woman appears in lacy underwear. This is equivalent of big bill board
      saying "this girl is a bad guy".
    - Cops go under cover (subplot about some character struggling to go
      straight)
    - Cops get caught, have narrow escape, catch bad guys.
    - Happy ending, subplot character gets it together.

  Have they changed or did I miss something?

  George

    
    	Sounds like all "The Hardy Boys" books, except for the lacy under-
    	wear.
    
    	8^)
    

    
    
    What! No comments about Chris and Rita getting married?!  Rita being
    pregnant?! and then this past week's episode??  Where is everyone? 
    This is the shows most watched couple of weeks.  I thought they kind of
    took the cheesy way out to write the characters off, but I guess they
    have to do what they have to do.  I don't think the two new leads are
    going to make it.  The chemistry just isn't there like with Estes and
    Kapture.
    
    Oh well, anohter guilty pleasure taken away......
    
    

    I totally agree that the way they wrote Chris out of the script was the
    easy way out.  Just kill him off.  I like the way Hoimicide wrote out
    the Ned Beatty and Daniel Baldwin characters - theyt are on 22 week
    suspension.  ANd Munch said "Who would think up 22 weeks for a
    suspension?"  Which is, of course, the number of shows they'll make
    this year.
    
    Anyway, back to Silk Stalkings.  I did enjoy Mitzi Kapture's portrayal
    of the grieving widow.  She is a fine actress, and I expect her career
    to take off after she has her baby.  I hope Rob Estes does well also,
    and I think his good looks and charm will get him some good roles.  I
    just wish they had left him injured, paralyzed, something more
    creative - anything to keep his departure open-ended.
    
    It was interesting watching the episode from the second season that was
    on immediately after the new show.  Mitzi was a lot harder looking in
    those days.
    
    Best of luck to them both.
    
    NAZZ

    
    	Rob Estes was in the movie "Phantom of the Mall: Eric's Revenge".
    	Exciting, huh?
    
    	Sean Reilly was in it also, but I have a feeling it wasn't ours
    	truly.  8^)
    

    It's nice to see USA showing original Silk Stalking episodes at 11:00
    on M-F.  Got to see a slightly punkier Rita (more tease in the hair,
    shorter skirts).  Terri Treas (from ALien Nation) was a guest star last
    night.
    
    NAZZ

    
    
    	I used to watch this show religiously.  Then I got super busy
    	and was tires quite a bit and fell out of synch.
    
    	Would someone be so kind as to send me mail with a wrap up
    	from the point where Chris and Rita finally got together?
    	I know she got pregnant but that was the last I saw....
    
    	I've tried watching the new ones a couple times but can't 
    	stand it.  The characters don't even come close to having
    	the same chemistry that Rob and Mitzi had.  I can't even
    	watch the new actress talk.  All I see is teeth!
    
    	Thanks much.
    
    	JJ