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    Hmmm, I don't know if we know enough information yet to do
    the scenario!  What I got from the first show is:
    
    The sheriff is very evil and has the whole town in his pocket.  The
    townsfolk don't know how evil he is but some have an idea.  The
    ones who have an idea, don't dare do anything about it.
    
    The first show introduces Kaleb, a young boy and his father and sister.
    I missed the first few minutes, but it looks like the father freaked
    out about something and was going to kill the sister.  Kaleb runs out
    and gets help from the sheriff and deputies.  The sheriff walks in and 
    gets everything under control.  He sends everyone out of the house.
    He checks on the sister and she is a little dazed buy ok.  He then
    snaps her neck.  A deputy saw the sheriff do this and he is scared,
    but he doesn't say anything at this point.
    
    Kaleb is taken to the hospital where the doctor is new in town
    (therefore not indebted to the sheriff, doesn't know how evil he is,
    and won't be bullied by him).  The scenes with the doctor were good,
    you could tell the sheriff wasn't used to not getting his own way.
    
    The sheriff "convinces" Kaleb's dad to sign him over to the sheriff
    and the sheriff kills the dad with the pen (stabs him in the throat).
    Now Kaleb has no one left and the sheriff has the right paper work.
    
    Somewhere out of town, a young lady is watching tv and they do a report
    on the news about Kaleb.  She is his "cousin" and she goes to the
    hospital to take custody.
    
    Back at the hospital, the doctor is starting to investigate Kaleb's
    parents.  His mother died after Kaleb was born.  She was in the room
    alone with the sheriff and she decided to commit suicide by jumping out
    the window.  The doctor is starting to piece together that the sheriff
    seems to be the only one around when bad things happen.  A nurse warns
    him to stop nosing around the sheriff.  
    
    Kaleb is visited in his hospital room by his mother.  There are lots of
    spooky special effects and message is written on the door in blood
    Go Home.  Kaleb takes off for home.
    
    When he gets home, his mother visits him and replays a scene from her
    life.  It turns out the sheriff raped her and Kaleb is the sheriff's
    son.
    
    By this time, the sheriff has found Kaleb and is chasing him through
    the house.  Kaleb sets a fire and jumps out a window leaving the
    sheriff in the house.  The doctor and cousin are at the house now too
    looking for Kaleb.  The cousin is screaming, "I know who you are".
    
    I believe that was the end.  This is just the bare bones of this show.
    There are a few scenes I left out in the interest of time but they
    were good scenes, maybe some one can elaborate.  Also, there were a lot
    of good special effects through out the show.
    
    RS

    The cousin seems to be pretty key in whats going on.  Whatever it is
    happened to her too.  She has some scenes where she is saying she has
    lots to tell Kaleb and then they show flashbacks of her living in the
    same house as kaleb.  Her parents are both dead too.  She was also
    present went the sheriff attacked the woman which makes me think that
    it was her mother and not Kaleb's mother that was attacked.  I had a hard
    time following that whole thing.  That would make her his sister, but
    I'm pretty sure she called herself his cousin.  Anyone figure that
    out??
    
    RS

    
    I loved this show!!!
    
    The flashback of the sheriff raping the mother had Kalebs sister
    watching. Also all of Kalebs flashbacks (at the hospital and at the
    house) were of his sister telling him stuff. Remember also that when
    the sister "lost it" at the beginning of the show she kept muttering
    over and over "someone's at the door". This is what made the father
    go ballistic and attack the daughter. When they did the flashback
    of the sheriff raping the mother, there was a knock at the door and
    the little girl said "someone's at the door". 
    
    It'll be very interesting to see how this all unfolds. This show is
    right up my alley and will definitely  hold my interest.
    
    Patty

    So that was his sister with the birthday cake???  I though it was
    his mother.  I only saw the sister dead so I didn't recognize her
    alive!!  
    
    The thing I can't believe the most is that Shawn Cassidy wrote it!!!
    
    RS

    
    Perfect show to follow the X-Files, although it is on CBS instead
    of Fox.
    

I keep seeing this series compared to "Twin Peaks", that seems to be a sloppy
comparison since about the only thing the two have in common is that they're
both very different from other series. If AG is half as good as TP I'll be
happy, so far it looks quite good. I think it would have been much better as
a two hour premiere though, it was too rushed at only one.


Randy

    Brrrrrr.... this one was really scary.  I am looking forward to the
    rest of this series. 
    
    
    The cousin does appear to know what is happening about the sheriff
    wanting Caleb. Somehow she got away from it all when she was young, 
    but her parents apparently didn't since she was visiting their gravesite. 
    
    I don't think Caleb's father signed the paperwork before he was killed 
    or killed himself, or the sheriff would have been able to take the boy 
    from the hospital and would not have been worrying about the cousin getting
    custody. 
    
    The school teacher is in cahoots with the sheriff but we weren't given the 
    story on that yet, except for the part where she seduced the deputy 
    (to keep him out of the way, since he saw the sheriff murder the
    sister??).  
    
    The sister had apparently been catatonic or in shock since she saw the 
    sheriff rape her mother but she seemed to always sense when the sheriff 
    was coming ..."someone's at the door"...  even before the sheriff first
    showed up while Caleb was going for help when the father was trying to
    clobber her with a shovel because she kept saying "someone's at the
    door" over and over during the boy's birthday party, and even with the
    same message to Caleb in blood on the wall after she was dead.
    
    I like Gothic mysteries and this one has me hooked...

    .7
    
    you used the word "clobber" and i've been laughing hysterically 
    since I read it...(its kind of a funny word).either that or i've been
    watching too much X-Files...(The Files have alot of subtle humor
    in it)
    
    American Gothic is really different and the special effects
    were done well.....for TV this could turn into a rare jewel of a 
    series..........amazing that Shawn Cassidy could put this together
    so well....                                                

aonyone know why AG is on tonight (10/10 @10:00 EST) and is it a new
episode??? and does this eman it will/will not be on this Friday?!?!

thanx,

Joe

    I think there's a flaw in this series.
    
    Gary Cole's character is inconsistent. At times he appears Lamont
    Cranston-like in that he can "cloud men's minds" as we saw in last
    night's episode.
    
    He seems invincible....yet why hasn't he "taken care of the Doctor and
    Caleb's cousin?
    
    The only answer could be that the strength of one's mind is a factor
    in Burke's ability to do what he wants to do.
    
    When a character has "PerryMason-itis" (Perry NEVER lost) the show
    gets boring.
    
    This show is teetering on that fence. Last night's episode was not
    particularly good. It did continue to support the fact that many of 
    Trinity's citizens owe Sheriff Burke a favor...yet like the poor sap
    last night and the judge last Friday...they hesitate to help him even
    though they fear him.
    
    Anyone have any thoughts on that key found by Caleb's cousin? I'm
    thinking it will unlock a box containing evidence against the Sheriff
    when he was a young officer. Where is that box? Probably in the old
    building that housed the town newspaper.
    
    Anyway, getting back to Gary Cole's character...I think the show needs
    to identify the weakness in this Sheriff. That is, what weapons (strong
    mind, strong character, garlic, etc.) are needed to combat his powers.
    
    One last comment...did anyone have any problem with that porch scene?
    Now I understand why NBC had a viewer discretion warning for the show.
    
    Mike

    I think the his downfall are the people who are basically "good"
    people who will not be bullied by him, namely the doctor and the 
    doctor's assistant, the lady that owns the boarding house, Caleb
    and cousin. 
    
    I think the Sheriff will only "win" with weak people who can be bought.
    Those that have faith and believe in good he has no influence over
    even when he does terrible things to them.  Its the basic concept
    of good over evil.
    
    The judge got strength to rule in favor of Caleb from that soup
    Caleb brought over from the lady in the boarding house.
    
    What porch scene?  I guess I missed it.
    
    I think this is definetely the creepiest show on tv right now.  
    
    RS

    it reminds me of a cross between stephen kings Needful things
    and the stand....
    
    I have taped last night's episode so will have to wait and see
    what happened!
    
    anna
    

    re Note 309.9
    >>aonyone know why AG is on tonight (10/10 @10:00 EST) and is it a new
    episode??? and does this eman it will/will not be on this Friday?!?!
     
    The rumour that I heard was that CBS cancelled the Godfather movie that 
    they had scheduled due to the Pope's visit. So they showed "Courtroom"(?) 
    and "American Gothic" instead.
    
    "American Gothic" is supposed to be on again Friday and it will be a 
    different episode from the one last night, according to my newspaper 
    tv guide.

    Well,  I just figured out why I missed the porch scene...
    I didn't know there was an episode yesterday (school) and I didn't
    tape it.  Can someone do an update of the main points?
    
    Thanks,
    RS

I was amazed by the porch scene too, combined with the "swimming scene" it
was some of the most erotic scenes I've seen on television. This series seems
to be expanding the perimiter's of network television. It's artistic merits
aside that makes it a good thing, imo. I agree that this was the weakest
episode so far, it was still superior television though. That the erotic scenes
involved a (supposedly) 15 year old girl and a middle aged man made it even
more amazing that they appeared on network television. 


Randy

    You guys are killing me!!!  What are you all talking about?????
    Wait until you forget to tape a show....paybacks are hell!!!! :):):)
    
    RS

    Without getting into too much detail and possibly violating Digital
    Notesfile etiquette let's just say the porch scene in question involves
    a 15 year old girl, a middle aged man, a very orange popsicle, and a
    hot afternoon.
    
    Use your imagination.

I need a copy of this show!!! anyone out there got the Tuesday night
episode??

Joe

    
    Gad, not popsicles again.  Teenage girls and popsicles were the
    downfall of Chuck Barris.
    
    DFW

    Will SOMEONE clarify where the Tuesday Special Showing went ...?
    I was waiting for it to come on and it didn't!~...and then
    watched it friday but OBviously missed the "porch episode"
    How did Anyone  see this  if it was not  televised Tuesday?.?..
    
    Please EXPLAIN when, what day..etc...for the rest of us
    
    Galactically Clueless*

    
    
   


     Okay,for those of you who missed the tuesday episode and want to 
  what happened.......
     


   
    Sheriff Buck calls in his marker on his victim of the week,the owner
  of a fix-it/junkyard operation.Buck wants this man's 15 year old daughter
  to work for him at the office part time after school,kind of a 'take her 
  under his wing'deal.This week's victim(TWV from here on out)stumbles and 
  stutters saying gee I dunno.Buck gives him a midnight deadline.
    TWV doesn't reply by the deadline.At 11:58pm he hears a noise in the 
  basement and notices his wife isn't in bed with him.He finds the wife 
  doing laundry and as they start to go upstairs midnight strikes and his
  wife is suddenly gets an electrical shock(I'm sketchy on that detail)and
  goes flying across the celler causing bodily harm to herself.TWV franticly
  runs outside to restore power to his home and runs into Sheriff Buck who 
  proceeds to tell TWV the extent of his wife's injuries without even seeing
  her(later the good doctor gives TWV the same diagnosis).
    Later that day as TWV is leaving the hospital he runs into Buck who asks
  him to do him to do him a favor.TWV enthusiastically says sure,anything
  you want Lucus.Buck wants him to meet someone at the bus stop and bring
  that someone back to TWV's house.
    The person who he's picking up ends up being his former boss (I'll call
  him Chester for I can't recall his name)who had just gotten out of prison
  after 17 years.He was imprisoned for killing a man whom he thought was 
  playing around with his teenage daughter.TWV was a shakin' when he saw
  Chester.
    So back a TWV's house Buck talked TWV into having Chester stay in the
  spare room for a few days,while dropping hints to everyone as that Chester    
  killed the wrong man and that TWV had goo-goo eye's for Chester's daughter
  at about that very same time.
    Now TWV's daughter gets infactuated with Chester askin' all kinds of 
  questions like how's it feel to kill a man and such,having a semi-innocent
  conversation in his bedroom and meanwhile Chester's getting goo-goo eyes
  for her.
    The next day Chester's outside,barechested and sweating away,doing some
  yardwork.The daughter comes stolling out in her little sundress with a 
  couple of popsicles,or maybe it was a double that she broke into two.
  Chester takes a break,they both end up sitting on a swinging chair on the
  porch,talking nonsense and pretty much flirting with each other.I guess
  controversial part would be when she's sitting with her head back and
  her mouth open while Chester holds a popsicle upside down over her mouth,
  and as the popsicle melts she catching the drops with her tounge.Later on
  that evening TWV tells his daughter to stay away from Chester.
    The next day Chester and the daughter are swimming,more like wading
  together when TWV come out yelling and screaming at the other man to stay 
  away from her.Chester kind of menacely brushes TWV off saying they were
  only swimming.
    Later that night TWV hears laughter coming out of his daughter's bedroom
  so he takes out his shot gun,bursts into the room and shoots Chester.
  But it ends up that it wasn't Chester that he shot it was his wife.
  TWV gets taken away,Chester is shown walking away down a road and disappears
  like one of the dudes going back into the cornfield in'Field of Dreams'
  and Buck offers to give TWV's assistant finacial help to keep running
  the business in return for a future favor.

    Subplots:Sheriff Buck and the good doctor has a tug of war over Calib's
             science project with the doc coming out on top.
               The cousin finds a car in the junk yard that was once the 
             family car.She had a flashback with Buck pulling them over when
             she was a child and her mother hid something under the dashboard,
             snapping out of the flashback she reaches under the dash and it 
             was still there,a box that contained a key.




          You think someone could tell me about the episode after this.
      VCR mishap,go figure.

    

    Yes, I can give you an update for the Friday show.  This is what I
    remember....  There were two main plots and one subplot.
    
    In the first main plot-
    
    The sheriff is trying to make brownie points with Caleb.  Caleb likes
    to shoot the bow and arrow and apparantly there is a town shooting 
    match between the kids.  Caleb has a little boyfriend he is practicing
    with.  The Sheriff walks up and boots the other little boy away and
    makes small talk with Caleb.
    
    Caleb is using a bow his dad made for him... a rickety old thing but
    it works.  The sheriff poo poos the bow, says Caleb need "good
    equipment" and needs to "think" he's a winner.  He coerces Caleb to
    shoot a crow which Caleb really didn't want to do and got upset after
    he killed the animal.  Caleb tells the sheriff to get lost and runs
    away from him.  He is later visited by Merli who is also upset with him
    that he let the sheriff talk him into killing the animal.  She tells
    him he can't run from the sheriff and he knows what is the right thing
    to do.
    
    Later the sheriff catches up with Caleb and gives him a really nice
    state of the art bow.  Caleb is dazzeled and takes it and starts using
    it.  The sheriff is also filling his head with the fact that his little
    friend (who is a better shot) just wants to win and doesn't care about
    Caleb.  Caleb starts to listen to the sheriff and blows off his friend.
    
    At the shooting match, Caleb is in a tie with his friend.  The sheriff
    is looking on proudly as Caleb is doing so good.  Caleb's friend makes
    a comment, "Well, if I don't win, at least you will and that's just as
    good."  Caleb realizes his friend is not what the sheriff said, he
    blows the match on purpose so his friend can win, he dumps the new bow
    at the sheriff's feet and says, "I'm not gonna win your way" and takes
    off with his friend.  The sheriff is disgusted and angry, he seeks
    comfort with the school teacher (what a piece of work she is!!)
    
    Second main plot-
    
    The cousin is still snooping around.  One of her old girlfriends was a
    nurse on duty at the time of Caleb's birth/his mother's death.  She
    wants to go talk to her.  (it is flashed back that the nurse knows the
    sheriff is caleb's father.  He is driving her car, she on the passanger
    side and he runs them off the road into a small river).
    
    When the cousin goes to the nurse's house, her mother (who is really
    kind of wierd, all smiles even when it wasn't approprate, obsessed with
    "perfection") tells her that her friend died in a car crash.  They go
    up to her old bedroom and her mother oogles all her awards and how
    perfect she was and what perfect nurse she was....mom leaves the room
    and the cousin snoops and finds old love letters from the Sheriff.
    
    The cousin puts 2 and 2 together and confronts the sheriff.  He says
    they searched for her car...had the coast guard out..never found her
    and so forth.  The cousin hires some divers of her own and searches the
    small river.  The car is only 15feet down.  She has it towed out of the
    water.  She opens the car door--the nurse isn't in there.  The cousin
    notices the driver seat is pushed back for a tall person.
    
    She goes back to the mother's house and tells her that she found the
    car and her daughter wasn't in it.  The mom is mad but keeps smiling.
    The phone rings and the mother says she can't talk right now and hangs
    up.  She leaves the room for a minute and the phone rings again.  The
    cousing picks it up..it is  sanitarium where the daughter is living. 
    
    The cousin goes to visit her friend.  The nurse spent 4 min. under
    water and has brain damage, she doesn't remember much and lives in
    another world.  The sheriff walks in and brings her a rose.  The
    sheriff and the mother are the only ones who know she is there.  The
    cousin is ticked, she accuses the sheriff of doing this to her.  He
    says, "want to kmow what happened? I'll show you."  The cousin
    reluctantly gets in his car and he retraces his route, he said they had
    a fight that night, he started driving with his eyes closed and
    speeding, the cousin is getting more and more nervous and finally grabs
    the stearing wheel making the skid in approx the same place it went of
    the road before.  The sheriff says is was a lovers spat and the nurse
    tried to kill them both (not true, the sheriff totally went off the
    road on purpose.)   The cousin is sitting close to the sheriff and he
    kisses her.  
    
    Subplot:
    
    This involved his deputy, the nice one.  His ex-wife married a wife
    abuser and he was sick and tired of his ex wife getting beat up and his
    kid being around this jerk.  He stands up to the man, over the deputy's
    shoulder, the sheriff pulls up and gives the wife beater a look.  The
    wife beater backs down saying he will not do it anymore.  The wife
    beater is a wood worker and he makes a point of saying his hands are
    for art.  The deputy leaves and the wood worker trips and falls onto
    his saw..there goes the hands.
    
    That's about it,
    Renee

   .22 < Thanx for the update...

        Question: Was the black woman given custody of Caleb on Friday's
                  show? She wasn't on Tuesday's show.She's only been in
                  one scene in the 4 episodes I've seen.She is real,isn't
                  she?



          Overall I'd have to say that I really like this show.I don't 
      watch too many network dramas so I can't compare this with what's
      out there but as one filer already put it 'this is right up my alley'.
         I think the creepiest scene so far,and there have been many,was in
      the 2nd episode.The first scene with the coroner in the autopsy room  
      by himself doing a psuedo-postmortim on Merly and her father.There
      was a second scene similar to that later in the show but I felt that   
      they went too the well too often and it didn't have the same effect.

      A thought: I would have watched 'In the Heat of the Night' if Carrol
                 O'Conner's sheriff was evil.

      Steve
        

    Steve,
    
    The black woman was not on Friday's show that I remember.  Caleb's
    scenes were mostly outside shooting the bow or in school.  When he
    talked to Merly he was already in his bedroom.
    
    The black woman does have custody of him though.  Remember when they
    did the custody hearing and the Sheriff was there with the school
    teacher, the doctor and his assistant and the cousin (funny how I don't
    know anyones names!).  The sheriff was all cocky and self assured,
    pointing out how the doctor was an alchohlic, the school teacher nailed
    the cousin saying how exciting she was going under cover in crack
    houses and what an exciting job she had and she is never home.  The
    sheriff thought for sure he was going to have Caleb (he also "visited
    the judge before hand and reminded the judge he owed the sheriff a
    favor) and the judge declares the black woman the guardian!!  It was a
    great scene!  The sheriff just about laid an egg!!
    
    Later, when Caleb is moving in, it turns out the doctor is a renter
    there so in effect, Caleb is now with the doctor.
    
    RS

    .21
    
    Thanks for the detail on that episode..but...How did you see it?
    It wasn't on...thats what I want to know...they never aired this
    episode due to the OJ debaucle that messed up regular programming
    or was it football?        

 



        Renee,
          Yes I remember seeing that episode,it's just that I think 
     there must be some kind of history with her with the sheriff but 
     yet she's only been shown in one scene in six episodes now.There
     were a few scenes in boarding house on last Friday's show,too.
     Nit,nit,nit.

      General comments on Friday's: 
          This episode's bugging me,is it bugging you? It was good to
     see Bruce Campbell again,good old Brisco County Jr. himself.He's
     also been in a couple of exec.prod.Sam Raimi's movies,Evil Dead 2
     and Army of Darkness.Too bad he had an untimely demise(he did die,
     didn't he?)it might have been a good recurring role for him.
          Overall I thought it was pretty good.I liked the old double
     nightmare trick with Caleb.I knew what was in that box before the
     cousin opened it but I still get chills up my spine just thinking
     about it.And I just love the look on Buck's face when he get's
     double crossed.
              

     .25< I saw that episode on Tuesady night Oct.10 at 10:00pm
          on WBZ Channel 4 in Boston.
   
      Steve

    Yes, its "bugging" me!!  Ewwwwwww  I hate bugs!!
    
    I think that guy is dead.  The cousin walked away (not much she could
    do) and Buck sure wasn't going to save him.  He opened the box and 
    laughed at him--he couldn't stand that guy.  
    
    I think that most of this show was actually a lover's spat between
    the sheriff and the school teacher and they made up at the end. 
    Imagine if they were really mad at each other!!
    
    I loved what Caleb did with the money!!!  Another burn on the sheriff!!
    
    Re: the black lady--yes, I've only seen her on that one show.  So far
    they haven't said anymore about her.
    
    RS

    
    Good points:  my favorite show of the year.  A great replacement for 
                  people who liked Twin Peaks, old Picket Fences, X Files,
                  Nightstawker, etc.  Twisted, well acted, *perfectly*
                  casted (btw, this guy should have been Randall Flagg in
                  "The Stand," no question).  And great comedy:  "Never
                  let your conscience be your guide," "Can't we all just
                  get along?"  A must-see or must-tape every week.
    
    Bad points:   Um, too much more of the Caleb gets tempted, Caleb gives
                  into Buck's temptations, Caleb repents, Caleb screws Buck
                  plots will start to get tired.  Get on with something more 
                  substantial and mix it up a bit.
    
    Thankful point:  Given how wretchedly awful "Picket Fences" is this
                     year, I'm glad this is on.  Man, what happened to that
                     show - did Kelly's leaving affect it that much.  Whew,
                     that stinks this year - Melrose Fences.
    
    

         After a week off they come back with an 'ok' episode. 
     There were a couple of good scenes, Caleb getting possessed
     and Sheriff Buck(with a B) calling out for help while his 
     prisoner was hanging, but they are getting away from the real
     mystery at hand, aren't they? 
                                       

       Does anybody know how this show is doing in the ratings? 

    re 390.29
    >>> Does anyone know ... the ratings?>>
    
    Last week, "American Gothic" was tied at number 92.

Well American Gothic is off the air until "early next year in a new time slot".
The good news is that it is still in production and now I can watch Homocide
as well. More good news is Due South is returning in the 8pm Friday timeslot
and Picket Fences is moved back to 10pm. This makes Friday night the best
night for tv. Due South, X Files, and either Picket Fences or Homocide makes
for a great lineup. I hope American Gothic doesn't end up in a bad time slot,
my vote is for Wednesday at 10.

This new lineup starts for CBS on December 8th, specials fill in until then.

Randy

    Thanks for letting us know because I was still looking for it
    every week in the paper.....why did they pull the show so fast?
    

Word is that because of falling ratings for both Pickett Fences and American
Gothic that they didn't want to run them during sweeps. Moving Pickett Fences
back to ten and away from X Files may help it. American Gothic just got 
pushed out of it's spot. They have ordered a full season of episodes so it
will be back in January, hopefully in the 10:00 Wednesday spot vacated with
the cancellation of Courthouse.


Randy

    Saw the advertisement for American Gothic for Wednesdays at 10:00??
    Why did they move it out of the Friday time-slot??? I thought
    it was perfect after Strange Luck and  X-Files....oh well
    Was it doing that bad??
    

    
    Your thinking about it being perfect after X-Files was exactly what CBS
    had thought.  They thought that they would capture the X-Files audience
    by running it right after X-Files.
    
    American Gothic's numbers were hanging in the low 90s out of something
    like 105 programs rated.
    
    But it was not so much that American Gothic was doing so badly, it was 
    that almost everything on CBS has been doing so badly.  Wednesday night 
    was really hurting and Picket Fences was not doing very well in the
    earlier time slot on Fridays, either.  You might remember CBS tried out 
    an episode of AG in the Weds time slot earlier this fall. They must have 
    been encouraged by how it did there.
    
    CBS kinda gave up on getting the 18-45 age bracket and brought back
    Due South (My Favourite TV Show so that did not break my heart at all
    ;-) - this was supposed to be for 8 episodes and I have not heard if they 
    are going to order more than that -, followed by whatever that Dick Van 
    Dyke mystery program is called, and then moved Picked Fences back to its 
    original Friday slot.  CBS called this trying to bring back its more 
    traditional audience for Fridays.  
    
    An entire season of American Gothic has been ordered by CBS, by the
    way, for what that is worth. So all the episodes should get aired in
    some time slot.

    I watched it Jan 3rd in the wednesday timeslot and did not enjoy
    it as much.....after the X-Files  I'd just flip to the other channel
    sit back and enjoy  Gothic....also staying up late when I've got to
    get up at 5:30 the next morning for work kinda  kills my interest
    ...I still like the show but  Friday's have always been,
    for me, the best nite for spooky shows, since I was a kid...
    was Fantasmic Features on fridays?

    So what do you think of the last couple episodes?  I think its
    really picking up.  The show where Merlyn has it out with Lucas
    was really good and also the one with the Plague was pretty
    good too.  I was really surprised that Dr. Matt is off the show
    --at least for now, but I really like the new "good" guy, the one
    from the CDC.
    
    RS

    
    Getting better and better if you ask me.  Maybe my favorite show this
    year.
    
    - Sean

    The local newspaper today says CBS is "quietly" pulling it off through
    the Feb sweeps. They will be showing specials and movies on WEDs thru Feb, 
    andit is not clear if or when they will bring it back.
    
    They say the ratings have not improved in the Weds time slot.  But I
    watch the ratings weekly and it seems to me that they have been better
    lately.
    
    Letters can be sent to:
    CBS Entertainment
    175 Fifth Ave.
    Suite 2307
    New York, New York  10010
     

It looks like CBS will be cancelling AG. They have said they will continue
airing new episodes beginning March 6th but that remains to be seen. Since
ratings have been so low in both time slots and they pulled it for February
sweeps it would be very unlikely that they will renew it. Looks like the best
we can hope for is that they will at least complete this season. I don't
know if we should attribute it's low ratings to CBS mishandling or the general
public's lack of taste. I'd guess the latter.


Randy

    Is anyone else getting totally sick of networks cancelling 
    a show before it really has a chance?  Here is another example
    of a show that had a few episodes, got pulled off for the holidays,
    got put back on a different night and is now pulled off for another
    month maybe to be cancelled.  They don't give anyone enough time
    to find it again and get into it.  It is also very hard to keep 
    an audience when they keep pre-empting like this.  Very annoying.
    
    RS

    Maybe enough people don't complain about show shuffling to the networks.  
    Also, in the case of AG, it's going to be very hard for a show to find it's
    audience on a network that's having trouble getting people to watch. 
    Where does CBS advertise it's shows?  On CBS.  If nobody's watching,
    nobody's going to see the advertisement.  
    
    Too bad if this one leaves.  Maybe somebody else will pick it up (FOX
    would be nice, they seem more inclined to leave shows be despite
    relatively low ratings).
    
    
    
    
    kim
    
    

    Wow  I'm not happy.....American Gothic has been terrific
    lately and should've stayed on  Fridays  as I missed
    the last one  cause I keep forgetting its on a  Wednesday
    
    I can't believe they are going to cancel this show
    (one of the best new shows so far) I think they are crazee 

    I've come to the conclusion that I should just not 
    bother watching tv anylonger.  Any show that I get into
    enough to tape the powers at be have consistantly canceled.
    
    Maybe if I stop watching those of you will be lucky 
    enough and they won't cancel it.
    
    %^}
    
    anna
    

From CBS, American Gothic is on Hiatus indefinately.  They (CBS)
have no further information at this time; when they do, it will
be posted on their Home Page.

jlk

    
    Anna, I'm with you 100%.  
    
    Any decent show is not allowed on iota of a chance if it's not
    an Instant Hit.
    
    With today's TV execs, shows like "All in the Family" and "WKRP"
    would be cancelled their first year.
    
    American Gothic was the one unique piece of entertainment on the 
    entire slate this year (even X-Files is going a little "pop").
    
    Why can't they just give it a lousy time-slot, one where they don't
    expect ratings anyway, and let those of use who are interested in
    something a little more substantial than "Friends" have our lousy
    little niche programs.
    
    If it wasn't for Laser Discs, I might just throw my TV out.  This 
    decision stinks.
    
    - Sean 
    

    
    What can you do?  It's just so annoying, like having a pebble in your
    shoe.  
    
    It's gotten to be a joke among my friends.  They make sure I don't
    watch their favorite shows because their afraid their going to get
    axed.
    
    %^}
    
    cursed!
    
    
    

    I agree with everyone!  This show is The Best that I"ve seen in
    a long time...(along with X-Files) I really liked the characters
    too...it was stylish, intelligent, creepy, good casting...I think
    we all could go on and on about it......I can't believe the AWFUL
    shows meaning Stupid  like Friends and a few other ones stay on
    and AG gets yanked......no wonder tv stinks....what a loss for us

    Geez!!! I didn't even know they moved it to wednesdays, prior to
    putting it on hiatus (I just found this notesfile). How many episodes
    did I miss?
    
    -Eric
    

    I logged into their home page on the internet but I couldn't get any
    more information on what is going on with the'axing'....
    
    I knew I should have kept all the episodes I taped...
    
    anna
    

One thing we can do is write and let CBS know what we want, it would need to
be now since the decision will be made shortly (if it hasn't been already).
A series that's on the cusp really can be saved by letter writing. And keep
in mind that sending a snailmail letter counts much more in their minds than
telephone calls or email. The address is in reply 39.


Randy

    Was this officially cancelled yet?
    
    RS

Not officially, but don't hold your breath.


Randy

The six unshown episodes of American Gothic will all be aired next month, here's
the schedule:

Wednesday, July 3  -- two episodes starting at 2100.

Thursday, July 4 --   one     "        "     "   "

Wednesday, July 10 -- two     "        "     "   "

Thursday, July 11 --  one     "        "     "   "


Randy

    
    Okay, so I watched almost all of them but missed last nights show!!
    Arghhhhhhh!!! Can someone post an update please??? Or if someone has
    it on tape and would lend it to me (work in PKO3, live in Townsend)
    I would be ever so grateful.
    
    Patty

    Does anyone have an episode guide for this show, or know of a good web
    site?  
    
    We have had about ten or so episodes in the UK, and I'm enjoying it a
    great deal, but I'm not sure that either our TV channel is showing them
    in the right order, or maybe they were made without too much focus on
    continuity?
    
    Near the start, Caleb went to stay in a boarding house run by an
    interesting coloured lady - the next few shows, there seemed to be one
    or possibly two white women running the place?  
    Then last week, we had a good show where Calebs sister comes back to
    life using the spirit of an unborn baby, but the opening title sequence 
    was totally different. 
    
    This week the opening was back to normal, and the coloured lady was
    back in the boarding house (but no mention of the journalist character)
    - this was the episode where a radio host wanted to get on TV, and
    Caleb hadn't seen his sisters ghost for a while.
    
    Any opinions?
    
    Mikef