Conference ljsrv1::tv_chatter

> Anyone have any comments?

	Let me ask you the same question, do *you* have any comments?
	Or didn't you watch it??

    I did watch Alein Autopsy and it was very interesting.  I found it
    difficult not to believe that it could be true!  I believe that there
    is other BEINGS elsewhere.  I am from the Valley and there have been
    LOTS of sightings, but I have not been so lucky.  
    
      Any more comments?
    
                                                Paula

    
    
    I watched it too and found it hard not to believe.  The interviews, I
    found, were really convincing.  They had everyone from Kodac to past 
    military cameramen authenticating the year and quality of the film.
    They also had a special effects team saying that it would be difficult, 
    even nowadays, to create an alien so lifelike.  
    
        What's everyone else think about this?
    

    i do believe that there could be life on other planets, but i am not to
    sure if i would like to meet one face to ?????. i have a friend that
    knows of a person that says they had an encounter more than once! but
    the last time it was very scary for them, as their house got very
    bright and it went ice cold! but only for a second. gee i wander if
    they are checking them out for real reason or if they just like this
    family???? 
    
    anybody else know of someone sighting these little guys?
    
                                      cindy
    
    
                 

    I did not see the show (watching ST:VOY premeire), but the FOX 10pm
    news after the show had clips and talked about it. The clips they
    showed were actually very fuzzy stills of what was meant to be an alian
    on a table, maybe operating table? and it looked hokey.
    
    But, what caught my attention the most was an interview they showed
    (might have been from the show itself) where the human talking (and I
    don't remember if he was pro- or anit- encounter) looked almost
    identical to the alien. .... I swear.... he had a very large, elongated
    head, just like you see in most "alien" shots.  did anyone else see
    this? Was he on the show?
    
    It was enough to make me believe that anything could have been faked,
    using this guy as the model!
    
    I'd be willing to believe there are other lifeforms out there. Heck, I
    believe there are lifeforms we haven't found here on earth. And I know
    there are lifeforms here that we don't understand - dolphins, whales,
    bugs, etc. I just hope they're (et's) friendly and that we don't
    annihilate them either through ignorance or stupidity. From a ST:TNG
    episode, a crystaline alien described humans as "ugly bags of mostly
    water". 
    
    janetb.

    Saw most of the show.  I believe the whole thing will be proven to be
    a hoax.  Just too many holes.  Chris Carter could have done a more
    believable film.
    
    As for the overall subject of UFOS/other life forms, even Carl Sagan
    admits it's a mathmatical probability.  Maybe one day we'll find out.
    
    FWIW,
    Bill

	Well I saw the encore presentation last night.  Supposedly
	they were going to include some additional footage not
	shown last week (what a marketing ploy to sucker folks who
	saw it the 1st time into seeing it again).

	I was really disappointed that out of a film that I believe
	they said is only 23 minutes long, that they only actually
	showed a couple minutes (no more than 5 is my guess) of clips
	from it.  Plus they aliased out the supposed alien's crotch.

	What really caught my attention was what I believed was the
	statement by someone from the group that bought the film that
	they were placing the film in the public domain.  Does anyone
	know if this was actually done?  If so, is it available on
	the Internet as an MPEG (or other format) file???

	Seeing only brief clips (and not even in chronological order!)
	of the film sounds to me like FOX is just milking this baby ....

    RE: .6
    
    file not found.
    
    H

    It's really 12DOT2::UFOS
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From:	US2RMC::"Forum@focusufo.net" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 19-OCT-1995 17:12:17.43
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Subj:	Flaw in Production of Alien Autopsy

FLAW IN PRODUCTION OF ALIEN AUTOPSY

The alien autopsy was faked, there is proof that it was filmed on a set
with two cameras and edited together to look like a single camera take.
The story has always been that an unidentified cameraman did all the
filmwork on a Bell and Howell 70 "filmo" hand held camera.  There is
direct evidence of at least two cameras being present.

Last week the video tape of the production from _For the People
Presents... UFO Update Fall of '95_  was mailed out. It contains an
intact sequence of the film contents with SMPTE timing codes superimposed
on each frame.  This allows us to reference each frame of the video
exactly.  There are two images which prove that there were at least two
cameras involved in the production:

01:05:25:15   and  01:10:45:28.

See http://www.uwf.edu/~stankuli/alien/autopsy.html 
to compare these images.

The earlier frame is found in a sequence of 16 frames which are out of
place by 5 minutes in the videotape.  The pathologist had just finished
the long central cut of the abdomen and there is a half second
flash-forward to the ear-to-ear incision over the top of the head.  This
can not be a mistake of processing from the original film into video
media, because the later sequence around 01:10:45:28 shows the same
incision being made over the head but from a different angle from the
earlier.  There had to be two cameras filming the overhead incision, it
could not have been done by a single cameraman as claimed.  The shot from
the steeper angle (01:05:25:15) was probably intended to be discarded as
the pathologist's headgear obscured the end of the cutting motion.  The
one from the angle of the table was better to show the motion.  There are
probably more perspective errors in the production.

Look at these frames and you will see what the Fox production _Alien
Autopsy_ with Jonathan Frakes  either missed or supressed in their
broadcast last september.  Certainly the earlier sequence ended up on
their cutting room floor.

This discovery was made when Dr. Stan Kulikowski II, a research scholar,
was reviewing the video with graphics specialist, Bruce Whitmarsh.  Dr.
Kulikowski has been doing some studies of the UFO phenomena popular in
the Gulf Breeze area.  Mr. Whitmarsh is a former combat photographer and
film director for the Navy and was providing his knowledge of the filming
techniques used by the military and used by film specialists at the
University of Southern California, where Bruce studied cinematography.

"What caused me to be suspicious of the single camerman story was that
there was never any shot which showed the fourth wall of the room they
were supposed to be in," said Whitmarsh.  "That suggests a film set
rather than a real hospital room.  Stan then pointed out that there
really were two walls missing: the one to the left of the alien and the
other at her feet.  We were searching for other walls when we noticed the
strange half-second clip inserted at 5 minutes after the long belly cut."
Comparison of the two images of head incision are impossible with a
single camera.  "This looks like a student film production, done on a set
with with several cameras then edited to look like one with a lot of
flashes and deliberate film errors put in to disguise the production
shifts."