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Conference ljsrv1::tv_chatter

Title:The TV Chatter Notes Conference
Notice:Welcome to TV Chatter :-)
Moderator:PASTA::PIERCE
Created:Wed Dec 16 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:498
Total number of notes:5416

290.0. "EMMY AWARDS" by WMOIS::LEBLANC_C () Tue Sep 13 1994 04:33

    Anyone know who won Best Actor in a comedy series?  Must have dozed off
    during that one!
    
    Carol
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290.1THE WINNER IS!!!ANGLIN::RECEPTIONMTue Sep 13 1994 04:392
    Kelsey Grammer of Frazier won for best actor in comedy series.
    
290.2YEAH FAZIER!WMOIS::LEBLANC_CTue Sep 13 1994 04:484
    Thanks!  He had my vote, too!
    
    Carol
    
290.3opps, typo, `one' should be `won'NETRIX::michaudNancy & TonyaTue Sep 13 1994 05:231
	In fact I believe the show one a total of six (6) awards.
290.4HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Sep 13 1994 05:349
RE

  Frazier did well and Picket Fences seemed to beat out NYPD Blue for most
catagories except that Det. Sipiwitz won for best actor. 
    
  They should have given Eddie an award. He figures in a lot on Frazier's
success. 

  George
290.5A few comments on the resultsPOWDML::MILLERTue Sep 13 1994 06:379
    Re:  Eddie
    
    At the end of his acceptance speech, Kelsey Grammer said, "Moose this
    is for you." (or something similar).  I believe "Moose" is Eddie's
    "real" name.
    
    Anybody else surprised at the Best Actor in a Drama category?  And how
    about "Picket Fences" for Best Dramatic Series?  I was pleasantly
    surprised at both.
290.6FYI...I'm Mad About ItCAPO::SMITH_MATue Sep 13 1994 10:2812
    Well I don't watch wither Picket Fences or NYPD Blue because I'm not
    home when they're on and I stopped taping long ago because I couldn't
    keep up...
    
    One thing I don't understand (anyone agree?) is Candice Bergen winning
    again for best actress in a comedy series.  Quite frankly, if it wasn't
    for Murphy Brown's INCREDIBLE supporting cast the show wouldn't be in
    the running.  I find CB to be stiff and one level in every episode. 
    Don't get me wrong, I like the show, but Helen Hunt deserved the award,
    not CB.
    
    Mary Jo
290.7HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Sep 13 1994 11:407
  Funny, I always felt it was the other way around and that Candice Bergen
carried a rather weak cast with smoltzy writing.

  The Mary Tylor More news room would have worked without Mary but the Murphy
Brown news room would die a quick death without Candice. 

  George 
290.8NETRIX::michaudLou GrantTue Sep 13 1994 18:105
>   The Mary Tylor More news room would have worked without Mary but the Murphy
> Brown news room would die a quick death without Candice. 

	The WJM newsroom may of worked w/out Mary, but the newsroom was
	only a small part of the MTM Show .....
290.9HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Sep 14 1994 03:4715
  No, it was a big part of the show, probably over half. The only other regular
part of the show was her apartment. That part consisted mostly of Mary and
Rhoda who spun off into her own series and did fine for several season without
Mary. 

  Obviously Mary was an important character but my point is that without Mary
there was still a lot of talent, good characters, and good writing. At least
two characters and two other actors went on to star in series of their own. I
doubt we will see that after Murphy folds.

  Also, people still remember the other characters from the MTM show long after
it has ended. About the only character people will remember besides Murphy
is Dan Quayle.

  George
290.10DELNI::DISMUKEWed Sep 14 1994 04:264
    FWIW - Candice thought Helen should have had the award, too.
    
    -s
    
290.11TFH::TOMAOWed Sep 14 1994 04:515
    RE: .10 , yup on the E.T. clip Candice called Helen her hero
    
    Though I love MB I think Helen deserved it too - oh well..
    
    Jt
290.12I disagree!CAPO::SMITH_MAWed Sep 14 1994 08:0213
    I'm sorry, but how can you say that no one will remember Miles
    Silverburg, Corky Sherwood Forrest, Frank Fontana and Jim Dial?  Not
    to mention Elden!  
    
    I'm really not even a regular MB fan but I'll remember them.  I think CB 
    does fine but it's mostly the writing that carries her through her 
    performance.  I don't feel like she has created any kind of 3-dimensional 
    character for herself at all!  She's exactly the same all the time wether
    she's happy, or sad, etc.
    
    Oh well.
    
    Mary Jo  
290.13HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Sep 14 1994 08:3215
  Every time I watch the show it's always the same thing. Corny jokes,
predictable petty problems which "wise" 'ol Murphy sorts out. 

  As for those characters, I never hear anyone talk about them. During MTM you
always heard people talk about Ted, Lou, Rhoda and the others but I never hear
anyone talk about characters on Murphy Brown except for comments about Murphy
her child and Dan Quayle.

  Well it's show biz and I guess it's all subjective. Different shows get
talked about in different areas and if you like Murphy Brown and her zany
friends then great. To me they always come across as corny and their problems
are always kind of stupid. I've always felt she works in an office full of
Ted Baxters.

  George 
290.14OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed Sep 14 1994 09:066
    Re: .10, .11
    
    >FWIW - Candice thought Helen should have had the award, too.
    
    She looked really surprised when it was announced.  Perhaps Helen split
    the vote with someone else, and Candice edged through.
290.15TriviaNECSC::RUGGWed Sep 14 1994 11:005
    Speaking of Helen Hunt and the Mary Tyler Moore show, she once was
    in that show, appearing as Murray's teenage daughter.  I heard that
    on some award show, and they even showed the clip.
    
    Fun fact.
290.16NETRIX::michaudCaptain StubbingWed Sep 14 1994 11:254
> I heard that on some award show, and they even showed the clip.

	And if you watch Nick at Night on the right night you can
	even catch the whole episode :-)