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Title:The TV Chatter Notes Conference
Notice:Welcome to TV Chatter :-)
Moderator:PASTA::PIERCE
Created:Wed Dec 16 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:498
Total number of notes:5416

259.0. "The Stand" by SWAM1::MEUSE_DA () Fri May 06 1994 13:33

    
    
    
    
    
    
    Well, it's finally on Sunday night.
    
    Movie or miniseries not sure at this time.
    
    See if it lives up to the SK classic.
    
    Dave
    
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259.39JULIET::LANE_BESat May 14 1994 12:073
    I missed the last part..  can someone fill me in?
    
    
259.407.5/10? Yeah, I'll buy that one, too...WONDER::REILLYSean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983Sat May 14 1994 14:4516
    
    Hit the target:   Stu, Tom Cullen, Glen Bateman, Lloyd Henried, Julie
                      Lawry, Mother Abagail, maybe Ralph Brentner, and
                      begrudgingly, Flagg (needed to cut the comedy is
                      all).
    
    Close/Near miss:  Nick Andros, Lucy Swann, Susan Stern, Harold Lauder
    
    Missed:           Frannie Goldsmith, Nadine, Larry Underwood, Joe
    
    Larry Underwood was not only my favorite "Stand" character, he was my
    favorite all-time King character.  I really felt they missed the 
    essence of what he was about -- I don't blame Adam Storke, he just didn't
    have the writing.
    
    - Sean
259.41more questions...WORLD::SWONGTue May 17 1994 06:3112
    
    re: .25 thanks! I saw the last 5 minutes of the first episode and saw
    them trying to kill Stu.  Ok, so where did Flagg come from? was it just
    a matter of after the flu that people just ended up being either good
    or evil or on the fence? 
    
    It was ok but I agree with someone who said that alot of key points
    were not explained...one of the ones is the Trash man at the end and
    why did he do what he did...and I thought the ending was really weak
    kinda a cop-out! and I know Flagg has no trouble killing anyone so why
    did he force the guy that played Albert in Twin Peaks kill people for
    him when he could've very well did it himself?
259.42MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue May 17 1994 09:3213
re: .38

>>    3) The way Frannie and Harold painted the sign on the roof to show
>>    where they are going!
>    
>YES.  Having Frannie and Harold just happen upon Stu and Glen was quite
>a stretch ... I mean, what are the odds?

Yeah - it's been quite some time since I read the book, but it hit me as kinda
funny that anyone heading for Stovington, Vermont from Ogunquit, Maine would
make the trip via Attleboro, MA., especially via motorbike.

-Jack
259.43BEDAZL::MAXFIELDTue May 17 1994 09:518
    re: .42
    
    I know, that bothered me too (Ogunquit to Vermont via Attleboro),
    and it bothered me even more when, during the last segment,
    they mentioned that Glen Batemen was from Woodsville NH!
    Now, that made sense (whether there's a Woodsville or not).
    
    Richard
259.44OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed May 18 1994 12:3033
    Re: .41
    
    The book fills in a lot of gaps.
    
    >Ok, so where did Flagg come from?
    
    Flagg was some criminal type, but after the devastation, he underwent
    some kind of transformation; one he felt coming, some kind of destiny
    he had been born to.  In the book, his hands have no lines (no life
    line, no heart line, etc.) which is an indication that he is something
    other than human.
    
    >one of the ones is the Trash man at the end and why did he do what he 
    >did
    
    In the book, Trash blows up some trucks and helicopters at the airport
    because someone teases him about his fire fixation; it flashes him back
    to his childhood and he reacts through fire.  After, he realizes that
    he has betrayed the Walkin Dude, so he runs, but then he gets the idea
    of atoning by bringing him the Big Fire.
    
    >and I thought the ending was really weak
    
    It was a major letdown.  But in the book, Stu tries to make sense of it
    and figures that God always has to have a blood sacrifice.  (Definitely
    an Old Testament version of God.)
                     
    >I know Flagg has no trouble killing anyone so why did he force the guy 
    >that played Albert in Twin Peaks kill people for him when he could've 
    >very well did it himself?
    
    It's a way for Lloyd to demonstrate his loyalty, and at the same time
    it reinforces the bond between them.
259.45BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTYI'm just a little crazy.Wed Aug 31 1994 04:0651
    
    	I read the book last month [uncut], and saw the 1st half of
    	the movie last week.  A few comments:
    
    
    	Seems that Rita has been completely ignored in the movie
    	version of the story.  Larry left NY with Nadine instead,
    	to avoid introducing another character.  But I think Rita
    	was rather important in the development of Larry's character.
    	And maybe they want to do away with another character, Joe.
    
    	But no:
    
    	Joe is with Lucy Swan?  Why?
    
    	Nit: Harold had a Cadillac in the book, but in the movie he
    	shows up in a Lincoln.
    
    	Harold should be heavier than the character playing him is.
    	And, IMO, he's too good-looking to be playing Harold, even
    	with his red-marker pimples.
    
    	We don't even know that Frannie is pregnant yet, or not as
    	far as I can tell.  For all I know, they'll write that out
    	of the story too.  Jessi had his 5 seconds of fame when his
    	name was mentioned by Frannie ... "he's my EX-boyfriend".
    	Never saw Frannie's mother, and missed some development on
    	the situation at home, and only saw her father for a couple
    	minutes.
    
    	Rob Lowe is OK as Nick [my favorite character], but he's too
    	muscular.  Not that Rob's a brute, but Nick, to me, is not a
    	fighter ... carrying the sheriff's gun around with him so he
    	could defend himself if need be.  Nick should have been a
    	thin, average-height blonde [or light-brown-haired] kid.
    
    	I like Lloyd [who to me is the slimeball executive from the
    	1st "Robocop" movie, since I didn't watch "Twin Peaks"].
    
    	Trashcan Man ... can't do much worse than Matt Frewer if you
    	need someone to play a psycho.  8^)
    
    	Randall Flagg - haven't seen much of him, but seems OK.  Maybe
    	too good-looking and not evil-looking enough, but after I gave
    	it a little thought I figured it was a good look because now
    	he's a psycho that looks like a normal person.  Charles Manson
    	has the perfect "psycho look", but I think that look is too
    	obvious and doesn't allow for good "blending".
    
    							GTI
    
259.46BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTYI'm just a little crazy.Wed Aug 31 1994 07:499
    
    	And keep in mind that when condensing a 20-hour book down to a
    	6-hour movie, there's a good chance that the 14 hours that are
    	cut out are going to be character development.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI