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3.0. "Conference Related Discussions" by SNOC02::SALES_NOTES (PhoneCasey@SNOV20::SALES_NOTES) Thu Mar 11 1993 00:43

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MILPND::J_TOMAO "PracticeRandomActsOfKindness&Beauty" 6 lines  16-DEC-1992 05:06
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    Please use this space to address conference related questions and
    discussions.
    
    Thank You,
    Joyce
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MILPND::J_TOMAO "PracticeRandomActsOfKindness&Beaut" 13 lines  16-DEC-1992 07:24
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    Someone pointed this out to me....
    
    >> - All of your notes are dated December 16th.  That's tomorrow, isn't
    >> it??  I don't know if this will mess anything up or not, but I thought
    >> that I'd point it out
    
    The reason being, Our host node SNOC02 is located in Australia.  This
    may cause some confusion but I hope its the worst of our problems :^)
    No really - it may require clearer questions or comments - like where I
    said last nights's episode of Murphy Brown etc. but I don't think it
    will be too much of a problem.
    
    Joyce
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MILPND::J_TOMAO "PracticeRandomActsOfKindness&Beaut" 14 lines  21-JAN-1993 06:28
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    Please remember when posting comments, many folks tape shows and don't
    get to them right away so use the form feed and let folks know before
    they hit return that a 'spoiler' comment is coming up.
    
    To use the form feed hold the Ctrl button down then hit the "L" key. 
    If done properly you will see 2 little "f"s appear which will indicate
    the return key is needed to read the rest of the text.
    
    I hope every one does their part so I'm not using the 'set hidden'
    powers bestowed upon me. :^)
    
    Thank you for your support,
    Joyce
    Co-mod
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TOLKIN::HOWARD "Barbara"                              6 lines  11-FEB-1993 23:08
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    I have a friend who can't get into this note she says it's remote
    unknown. Is there anything she may be doing wrong??
    her node is SCOMAN::SHEEHAN. She works third shift. Do you think you can
    help her with this??
                            Thanks,
    				Barbara
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HELIX::MAIEWSKI                                      15 lines  12-FEB-1993 01:14
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  I just checked with NCP and node SCOMAN seems to have node SNOC02 defined
correctly. If you go into ncp on any node and type

  NCP> tell scoman show node snoc02 ch

you will see that it is defined as: Remote node =   59.460 (SNOC02)

  Have her check to see that she has the name SNOC02 spelled properly. It
should be

    "S"   "N"   letter "O"  "C"  number zero   "2"

  I'll bet anything that she has either the "O" or "0" confused.

  George
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MILPND::J_TOMAO "PracticeRandomActsOfKindness&Beaut" 21 lines  12-FEB-1993 06:03
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    George thanks for answering that last one.
    
    TV_CHATTER is due for some 'house cleaning'.  Tomorrow afternoon
    (Friday p.m. from where I sit at the Mill) Don and I will be cleaning
    up and deleting conference.  I need to ask the members a few favors:
    
    1) Please don't take it personal if your note is deleted, we are just
    trying to keep the block space the file uses down as low as possible.
    
    2) Please (oh please) bare with me - This will be my first shot at
    cleaning a conference and Don will be patiently walking me through it -
    errors may occur and I'll keep you posted if I really blow it :^}
    
    3) Keep in mind when we started this file we said you can discuss
    anything within reason but we never said we would keep the notes
    forever. 
    
    Wish me luck tomorrow
    
    Joyce
    (co-mod)
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DECWET::METZGER "Zeros and Ones...."                  7 lines  12-FEB-1993 09:23
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How about chopping out the soap opera notes? Isn't there an entire conference
already designated for soaps? 

Forgive the suggestion if I'm mistaken...

John
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ELMAGO::BENBACA "Cowboys! 1992/93 World Champions!"  31 lines  12-FEB-1993 14:02
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    The  IOALOT::SOAPS conference was trashed years ago (1989). There is no
    reason to chopping the soap notes as they are discussed much the same
    way as any other TV program is. I knew coming in that cleaning up was
    probably going to happen on a regular basis and I am all for it. It
    makes no sense keeping these notes for long periods anyway. The
    ::Friends conference does this with no problems.
    
          I can't figure out the thinking behind chopping out soap opera
    notes anyway. They aren't any different than prime time stuff except
    for that they are continued on a daily basis instead of a weekly basis.
    Just what is it about soaps that folks take issue with. The only thing
    I can figure is the fact that there are so many of them. There only
    called soaps because of the advertising that made them popular years
    ago. Other than that they are no different than 90210, Life goes on, 
    or any of the other shows on the tube. Soaps have the advantage of
    never ending where the others have a "season" to comply with, and half 
    the year you end up having to watch reruns.

    If you look at the replies in the four or 5 soap topics you can see
    that there are not that many replies. Are these topics really taking up
    that much space?. I say leave the soap topics in. Of course the final
    decision is up to the Mods. I'll stand by whatever that decision is. 

    Reply .6     You are forgiven :^)

    By the way, good luck Joyce!
    
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TOLKIN::HOWARD "Barbara"                             11 lines  12-FEB-1993 20:14
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    	In addition to not chopping out the notes for soaps. The ones, JUST
    put in here last week are only for the CBS shows, which don't have
    notes conferances of there own. ABC and NBC soaps do. This was why I
    asked the moderators, off line, if we could discuss these here, before I 
    entered the topics. This was a problem in the old conferance too, this
    was why I thought this conferance was created, so there would be as
    many constraints as in the old file. Which BTW this one was created as an
    alternative to, not as a replacement for. Eventhough EOT::TV was lost
    reccently.
    		Thanks for listening.
    			   	Barbara 
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MILPND::J_TOMAO "PracticeRandomActsOfKindness&Beaut" 10 lines  13-FEB-1993 01:04
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    RE: .6 
    
    John even though a note string may already have a conference of its own
    doesn't mean it should be deleted from here.  Some folks can't or won't
    keep up with a high traffic conference and just may like the summaries
    or little blimps on subjects, so thats one of the reasons we'll keep
    the 'soaps' around.
    
    Enjoy,
    Joyce
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MEOC02::CASEY "VAXphone MEO78B::CASEY, DTN 739 9414"  5 lines  13-FEB-1993 08:10
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    We've reduced the Conference in terms of replies but I'm still unsure
    as to whether we've saved much disk..
    
    Don
    *8-)
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DECWET::METZGER "Zeros and Ones...."                  9 lines  13-FEB-1993 08:31
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Just asking about the soaps...Don't shoot, I'm unarmed...

Don, I think you have to compress the file after deleting the replies or it 
won't shrink a single block. I'm sure there is a .com procedure around somewhere
with the magic shrinking commands. I had it yeas ago but now I only do VMS for
note reading and mail reading...

John
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SNOC02::SALES_NOTES "Alan Whicker's Stand-In"        21 lines  14-FEB-1993 06:05
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    Re .11
    
    John,

>Don, I think you have to compress the file after deleting the replies or it 
>won't shrink a single block. I'm sure there is a .com procedure around somewhere
>with the magic shrinking commands. I had it yeas ago but now I only do VMS for
>note reading and mail reading...

    Yes.. you're right. We've deleted the replies and now comes the time to
    reduce/compress the amount of disk. Being as Joyce and I are a
    democratic duo, I had Joyce delete the replies, whereupon I would run
    the compression. OK.. that's what we did .. but the compress run won't
    work because it keeps telling me that the input file is locked by
    another user. Could it be that whosoever deleteth the notes HAS to be
    the one who also runs the compression/reduction??
    
    Don
    *8-)
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NRSTA2::CLARK "Hour of Slack"                        11 lines  16-FEB-1993 02:05
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re       <<< Note 3.12 by SNOC02::SALES_NOTES "Alan Whicker's Stand-In" >>>

>    the compression. OK.. that's what we did .. but the compress run won't
>    work because it keeps telling me that the input file is locked by
>    another user. Could it be that whosoever deleteth the notes HAS to be
>    the one who also runs the compression/reduction??
    
It sounds like the conference file is being accessed by a process - maybe
you need to shut down the NOTES server?  (just a guess)

- Dave
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MEOC02::CASEY "VAXphone MEO78B::CASEY, DTN 739 9414"  6 lines  16-FEB-1993 06:01
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    Re .13
    
    Ermm.. could I get a simple King James edition of that??
    
    Don
    *8-)
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NRSTA2::CLARK "Hour of Slack"                        29 lines  17-FEB-1993 01:22
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re -.1

Don;

Like I said, I'm just guessing ... the message that was mentioned in -.2
sounded like the compress wouldn't work because the conference file is
being accessed by something - my guess is it's being accessed by the
notes server, which is a process that runs on your machine to allow
members to access notesfiles on the machine.  So you would want to shut
this process down to allow the compress to work.  I don't know the
commands/procedures to use to do this, though ... you might want to
check out the moderator's conference.

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LILITH::CALLAS "Manners before morals."               9 lines  25-AUG-1992 15:47
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    Requests for membership should now be sent to any of the following:
    
    ERIS::CALLAS        (Jon Callas)
    ACESMK::CHELSEA     (Karen Christenson, aka Chelsea)
    
    If you are having trouble getting to the conference, then check to make
    sure that you have ERIS:: listed as node 19.82.
    
    	Jon

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MEOC02::CASEY "VAXphone=MEO78B::CASEY"               12 lines   1-MAR-1993 17:12
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    I'm very much afraid that irrespective of anything I try and do,
    TV_CHATTER seems to have a mind of its own when it comes to reclaimimg
    disk space formerly occupied by notes which have been deleted during
    the clean-out process. I've simply NEVER had this kind of trouble
    before and I'm beginning to think that the ONLY way I'm going to be
    able to get this Conference back to a reasonable size (it's currently
    occupying about 3,000 blocks) will be for me to restart it again. I'd
    hate to have to do that.. any other suggestions??
    
    Don
    *8-)
    

    Why are some of the notes set nowrite?  I tried to reply to one of the
    soaps and LA Law and I couldn't reply.  Did I miss something?
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl there were some minor glitches in the system at the host node -
    they were not 'set nowrite'.  I'll check it out.
    
    Joyce

    Thanks for looking into it.  By the way it wasn't LA Law, it was Law and 
    Order that I tried replying to.  
    
    Cheryl
                                           

    Holly Taylor will be helping to moderate the TV_CHATTER file.
    
    Mr. Don Casey will be globe-trotting for the next several weeks and
    Holly has agreed to help with the moderating.  She will be a permanent
    member of the moderating staff.
    
    Welcome aboard Holly!
    
    Joyce
    (co-mod)

    I will be doing some house cleaning in here today and tomorrow to make
    sure we don't max out and blow up while our host is globetrotting.
    
    Unlike the past TV file or the Movies conference most notes won't be
    saved after 30-60 period.
    
    Have fun!
    Joyce
    (co-mod)

    Thanks to my fellow mods for working SO hard at keeping the size of
    this file down while I've been globe-trotting these last few weeks. It
    was really GREAT to meet some of you people in person at long last ...
    and also to meet a pair of lovely lobsters which I quickly devoured at
    Barbara's Crossing in Worcester, MA.
    
    Ahh but it IS good to be home..
    
    Don
    *8-)
    
    P.S. I've just run a "compress" of the file and it resulted in me
    pulling down the occupied space from 3,800 blocks to a mere 2,700 or
    so.. which is pretty good, ladies ..thanks!

    	Well Don, I'm glad you liked the lobsters. I worked a Barber's
    Crossing before I came to Dec and the lobsters were on the menu even
    then.
    		Barbara
    

    Please excuse me while I do a little bit of moderating in here..
    meanwhile, I'm setting the Conference /nowrite.
    
    Don
    *8-)

    I've just done a major "clean-up" in here, in the interests of disk
    storage economy. I don't expect you will encounter any difficulty, but
    should you do, please mail me accordingly.
    
    Don
    *8-)
    

    Well the time has almost come.  I will be taking the Quantum Leap
    October 3.
    
    ::TV_CHATTER currently has 3 co-moderators but the two that will be
    left have their hands full with other conferences so I reccomended they
    replace me.
    
    If you would like to volunteer to assist in moderating this 'lightly
    moderated' conference, please drop a note to 
    
    	MEOC02::CASEY - Don Casey
    		or
    	AYRPLN::VENTURA - Holly Ventura
    
    Its been great,
    Joyce
    co-mod
    	

    Just a reminder, we are still looking for a third moderator to replace
    Joyce.  Please, if anyone is interested in helping us out here, send me
    mail at AYRPLN::VENTURA.  I'm the only moderator here on the east
    coast, and I can't get in here too much anymore.
    
    Holly
    

    
    	There goes the neighbohood!!
    
    							GTI
    
    
    
    >    Attention everyone!!!
    >
    >Please welcome our two NEW moderators!!
    >
    >Louisa Pierce and Scott McCormick!!
    

    
    	First order of business...
    
    	DEL/AUTHOR=SLABOUNTY *.*;*   8^)
    
    						Scott.
    

    
    
    Welcome aboard!
    
    Serena
    
    p.s.
    
    I'll second Scott's first order of business!   	:) :)
    
    
    

    
    	Scott, you wouldn't know how to do that even if you had the
    	instructions right in front of you.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    
    Ah!  but I know how :-)  Seeing I'm co-moderating with Scott, I'd
    be glad to share the trade secrets.  :-)))))
    
    Louisa

    
    FYI:
    
    If some of you are wondering why I am not moving alot of notes that
    need to be moved (like the seahunt trivia and swap/borrow tapes) it's
    because this file is located on a different server then mine, a server
    I don't have access to as of yet.
    
    This file has a bad FDL file that needs to be fixed and I can't fix it
    unless I get priv's.  A bad FDL file makes certin MOD Commands
    impossible to do - like move notes.
    
    I hope I get the prives soon and I hope I can analyze the FDL file and
    correct it and then we can have a nice clean file.
    
    In the mean time - PLEASE do a DIR/TITLE= before you post any new
    notes.
    
    Thank you for your support.
    
    Lousia CO-MOD