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Conference ljsrv1::tv_chatter

Title:The TV Chatter Notes Conference
Notice:Welcome to TV Chatter :-)
Moderator:PASTA::PIERCE
Created:Wed Dec 16 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:498
Total number of notes:5416

74.0. "Homicide" by HELIX::MAIEWSKI () Fri Feb 05 1993 05:16

  Homicide is a new police series that pushes a little further along the path
to realism. It features Ned Beaty in an ensemble cast and centers around the
activities of a homicide unit of the Baltimore police department. 

  Unlike other TV homicide units that show one or more cops devoting all of
their time to solving one crime, Homicide is more realistic in that each cop
has several investigations going on at once. Also the environment is much more
hectic and the atmosphere much darker which is more representative of a real
homicide unit. 

  It's a good show and a good lead in to Law and Order.

  George
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74.1With regards to the chocolates, that isEVMS::MDNITE::RIVERSWhee!Fri Feb 03 1995 05:407
    I belive it's Ghiradelli (not sure of the spelling, but there's an "ee"
    sound on the end rather than an "oh").
    
    
    kim
    
74.2TV Guide sez GiardelloVAXUUM::KEEFEFri Feb 03 1995 11:531
    
74.3Room 201 vs. 210 - What's the big deal?ABACUS::SMITHNever say never, I always say.Sun Feb 05 1995 10:498
Can someone please explain the significance of the room number transposition?
Even if the detectives went to the correct room, the shooter still could have
fired shots at them.  Granted, the angle would not have been so direct, but 
all he would have had to do is come down a few steps, and fire down the hall.

Thanks.

74.4ODIXIE::MOREAUKen Moreau;Sales Support;South FLTue Feb 07 1995 04:3614
RE: .23 <significance of the transposed numbers on the arrest warrant>

Two things come to mind (warning: spoilers ahead for time-shifters)


1) The brass are looking for a scapegoat to publicly blame for the tragedy,
   in order to divert attention from themselves.

2) Since we know that the person they were originally going after (the 
   pedophile who killed the little boy) did *not* do the shooting, then
   maybe the person in 201 is the shooter, and would have let the cops
   pass right on by if they had not come to his door.

-- Ken Moreau
74.5bad info on warrant potentially deadlyVAXUUM::KEEFETue Feb 07 1995 06:0321
    The wrong number on the warrant may have been picked up from the case 
    in Boston last year in which the police entered a wrong apartment on 
    a drug bust. They stormed in, handcuffed, and threw to the ground, a... 
    
    retired minister. 
    
    Who thereupon died of a heart attack on the floor of his own living
    room, while choking on his own vomit.
    
    The police relied on uncorroborated info from an informant. One Boston
    Globe article said the apartment number was not provided on the warrant, 
    but that the informant had said "first floor", which in some countries 
    refers to what in the US is considered the second floor.
    
    There was some flack about who signed the paperwork. The officer who
    got the warrant was reassigned. The city is being sued I think.
    
    Neil
    
    
    
74.6OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Feb 07 1995 12:497
    Re: apartment numbers
    
    It might have some significance in their surveillance and approach. 
    Way back in the beginning, I believe they said that they had the
    suspect under surveillance and he was inside the room.  Also, they
    showed someone looking through a window at the approaching cops.  The
    wrong room number would mean that they had bad information going in.
74.7they thought they were out of sight, but...MARVA2::BUCHMANUNIX refugee in a VMS worldWed Feb 08 1995 10:5816
    My wife asked the same question about the room number mixup. For my
    part, I was surprised at the beginning of the show at the nonchalant
    attitude of the police in approaching the apartment. They sipped coffee
    at a cafe across the street, in full view of the target building. Then
    they went to one of their cars, and donned (so-called) bulletproof vests
    out in the street, right in front of the building! That's sloppy no
    matter where the suspect's apartment might be. The only explanation I
    could think of is that they thought the target apartment was on the other
    side of the building based on the room number, and so, when they were
    dressing for success, they thought they were out of view behind the
    building.
    
    Did not see the followup episode -- did they catch the guy? Could
    someone post a very brief synopsis?
    			Thanks,
    				Jim
74.8ODIXIE::MOREAUKen Moreau;Sales Support;South FLWed Feb 08 1995 12:1338
Synopsis (no spoilers)

There was a lot of personal anguish with the squad looking for the suspect
and with the people in the hospital.  They guy who was least injured (don't
remember his name) was awake and recovering, looks like he will come back
all the way.  Ned Beatty's character is still in a coma, no change.  And the
girl is still unconscious, again no change there.

Pembleton is under serious stress because they can't find the guy.  He clashes
with the head of the QRT (Quick Response Team?), aka SWAT, with the QRT guy
making rude comments about getting people shot foolishly and Pembleton getting
seriously ticked off saying they took all reasonable precautions.  But they
find the guys girl-friend and get his location out of her and eventually do
manage to catch him (no spoilers, all of this was implicit in the ads).

The female captain is asked by the brass (what a bunch of slime-balls those
guys are) to investigate Giardello's handling of the situation and how the
numbers got mixed up on the arrest warrant.  She said no, they ordered her
to do it anyway, and so she did.  She basically goes in and lies saying that
Giardello didn't see it.  Giardello bursts in and says he did see it.  She
then goes on the attack saying if the brass had bought a new computer system
that this type of error would have been caught (no explanation was given for
how that is true).  The brass are prepared to blame the lack of computer
system, and let them go.

Spoilers for the rest of it:



The pedophile they caught admits (under fairly brutal questioning) to the
murder of the boy, and then tries to admit to the shooting.  But he gets
virtually every detail of the shooting wrong, to such a point that Pembleton
walks out of the interrogation room really ticked off, saying "We don't have
the shooter".  You can imagine the reaction of the squad.

Back at the hospital the female cop wakes up and is (slightly) better.

-- Ken Moreau
74.9TROOA::TRP109::Chrisif not now, when?Sat Feb 25 1995 12:265
NBC is having more actors cross over to other shows tonight - must be
February sweeps!   Anyhow, tonight, the detective from 'Law and Order'
(Chris Noth) will be bringing a prisoner back to the 'Homicide' detectives.
The prisoner is being played by that strange director who made a bunch of 
weird movies (ie-Hairspray) - John somethingorother
74.10OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Feb 28 1995 08:241
    John Waters, native of Baltimore (where the series is set).
74.1111/15 Show taped?ALFA1::MASONThe law of KARMA hasn't been repealedMon Nov 18 1996 18:259
74.12another need for 15NOV showDZIGN::HABERJeff Haber..SBS IM&amp;T Consultant..223-5535Mon Nov 18 1996 20:115