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| 1176.1 | | POWDML::FLANAGAN | let your light shine | Mon Nov 06 1995 18:51 | 2 |
| Unfortunity hierarchy effects even the institutional churches which
attempt to be non hierarchical.
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| 1176.2 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Mon Nov 06 1995 19:01 | 12 |
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I believe it is a combination of "being in the business" and the assumption
of shared experiences. I've noticed it with Pastors meeting Pastors and most
recently with missionaries meeting missionaries. There's a "connection" there,
and they are human just like the airplane pilots who meet pilots, chefs who
meet chefs, etc. It doesn't mean that they place more significance in the
position of the other pastor/missionary, etc, but there is a commonality there.
Jim
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| 1176.3 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Tue Nov 07 1995 14:32 | 11 |
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I think another reason pastors bond quickly is that pastors, like their
flock, also need a pastor for counsel, "mentoring", etc.
Jim
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| 1176.4 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Ps. 85.10 | Tue Nov 07 1995 17:17 | 6 |
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I can't put my finger on why, but it bothers me.
Richard
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| 1176.5 | | POWDML::FLANAGAN | let your light shine | Tue Nov 07 1995 17:57 | 1 |
| all hierarchies are sinful?
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| 1176.6 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Tue Nov 07 1995 18:28 | 48 |
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My pastor performs:
Marriage counseling
funerals
grief counseling
hospital visitation
counsel with the needy
several hours of biblical study per day
at least 3 sermon messages per week
day to day management of the church/school office
about 25 brief conversations as he moves from pulpit to his office after
church with people following him all the way to ask one quick question
several evangelistic calls per day
counseling to other pastors in the area
fielding phone calls from church members/non church members on various
issues facing their lives and/or the church
drop everything there's a crisis at so and so's house visits (at all hours of
the night.
Many other duties not listed here
He also fills the role of a husband/father/grandfather when he has the time
What the heck is the big deal of there being a bonding between he and another
pastor who likely is involved in the same sort of activity day in and day
out..Our pastors are human beings, just like us, who need "warm fuzzies" just
like the rest of us.
Jim
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| 1176.7 | | CSC32::J_OPPELT | Wanna see my scar? | Tue Nov 07 1995 18:35 | 11 |
| Mechanics migrate to each other at parties. So too do doctors,
lawyers, computer nerds, outdoorsmen, at-home mothers, etc., etc.
Why not clergymen?
But even more, I think that the clergy are often shunned. People
keep a professional distance from them for various reasons. One
in particular is that they are afraid of becoming too close lest
that professional barrier be broken, and in the case of female
laity with male priests, the fear that getting close to them might
tempt him to break his vows of celibacy.
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| 1176.8 | | APACHE::MYERS | He literally meant it figuratively | Tue Nov 07 1995 19:02 | 14 |
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Quite often lay people, when introduced to professional clergy, feel as
though they must be on their best behavior, or in some way demonstrate
their interest in faith. In short a forced and not always sincere
interest. So here's this poor priest who just wants to have a glass of
wine and talk about the football game, and all the lay people expect
him to wax theologic, or opine on the great social issues of the day.
So perhaps it is, generally speaking, the lay people who do not bond
instantly, at least in a personal/social sense, with professional
clergy rather than the other way round.
Just something to think about.
Eric
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| 1176.9 | | CSLALL::HENDERSON | Friend, will you be ready? | Tue Nov 07 1995 19:06 | 12 |
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I remember one time a former pastor of mine was talking about being around
a bunch of men, one of whom was swearing rather profusely, when it was pointed
out to the man (by one of his colleagues) that this "other man" was a
Pastor.."Oh, sorry", the man said..my pastor replied "Oh, that's OK..I'm
only in sales..He's (pointing towards the heavens) in management"..
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