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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

925.0. "I want to be a Christian like..." by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (C-P Moderator no more) Mon May 23 1994 17:44

I would someday like to be able to say that I've become a Christian like
Albert Schweitzer, Thomas Gumbleton, or Philip Berrigan.

Other than Jesus, who is a Christian you would like to become more like?

Shalom,
Richard

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925.1COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon May 23 1994 17:461
St. Basil the Great.
925.2CVG::THOMPSONAn AlphaGeneration NoterMon May 23 1994 17:493
    Simon Szeto
    
    		Alfred
925.3Mahatma GandhiPOWDML::FLANAGANResident AlienMon May 23 1994 19:411
    Mahatma Gandi?
925.4My PastorCSLALL::HENDERSONBe thereTue May 24 1994 00:454

 Calvin Fuller

925.5A StrangerHURON::MYERSTue May 24 1994 02:5832
    Glenn Brown, a stranger.

    Thirteen years ago a young couple, the wife 8 months pregnant, found
    themselves stranded on a back road in Maine. The car limped along until
    they finally made it to a motel. It was late, dark and there was no way
    they could make it the rest of the way home that night.

    Relieved to have made it to a motel, the couple went into the lobby to
    take a room for the night. The room was a mere 32 dollars, but as the
    young man began to write out a check, the clerk said, "We don't take
    checks. Cash or credit card only." The couple had about seven dollars
    between them and not a single credit card to their name. They pleaded
    with the clerk, siting the wife's rather uncomfortable condition, but
    he was unyielding. He simply wouldn't take a check.

    At their lowest moment, a stranger came up and asked the clerk, "What
    if I were to pay for their room and they write *me* a check?" The clerk
    certainly didn't care, all he wanted was $32.00 and he didn't care who
    it came form -- as long as it wasn't a check. The Stranger paid for the
    room and young man wrote a check out to the stranger, thanking him
    heartily.

    Exhausted, the couple took their room and said a prayer of thanks. They
    never saw the stranger again. But somewhere, buried in a folder in a
    filing cabinet, they still have a canceled check for $32.00, payable to
    the order of Glenn Brown.


    I would like to be a Christian like Glenn Brown...


    		Eric
925.6One That Comes To MindSTRATA::BARBIERITue May 24 1994 12:4513
      Dr. Livingston, I presume!
    
      He basically was a living sacrifice in Africa having left
      behind a lucrative medical practise in Britain.  As to why
      he'd be so insane as to give it all up and trek to Africa
      he said, "The love of Christ compels me."
    
      After he died, Britain asked for the body of Dr. Livingston
      (to bury him in Westminster).  The Africans said they could 
      take his body, but they could not take his heart and they
      took the guy's heart out!
    
                                                  Tony
925.7Jesus ChristFRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 16:281
    
925.8CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPacifist HellcatTue May 24 1994 16:345
    .7  I anticipated that would be the standard answer.  That's why
    I asked "other than Jesus, who...."
    
    Richard
    
925.9learned the hard wayFRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 16:414
    I don't do that anymore.  I used to really respect the minister of the
    church I attended about 10 years ago...  until I found out he was
    having an affair with someone in the choir.  I no longer look to man, I
    look to God.
925.11I think he's here somewhere...CFSCTC::HUSTONSteve HustonTue May 24 1994 17:251
Paul Ferwerda
925.12CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPacifist HellcatTue May 24 1994 20:094
    .11  Yes, I remember Paul.
    
    Richard
    
925.13All fall shortCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPacifist HellcatWed May 25 1994 00:0010
    .9  I'll grant you no human being is perfect.  I don't think I was
    looking for perfection.
    
    A couple dear friends of mine are the closest I've ever seen anyone
    actually living out the radical Christian message.  And yet, I've
    seen them, too, bungle and make huge mistakes.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
925.14MEEEEE!CSC32::KINSELLAWhy be politically correct when you can be right?Wed Jun 22 1994 22:335
    
    
    ...the one God intended me to be.  
    
    Jill
925.15Why shouldn't I?CSC32::J_CHRISTIEHeat-seeking pacifistMon Jun 27 1994 00:262
    David A. Dyben and Nancy Faye Morales.
    
925.16Hypocritical at BestJULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jun 27 1994 17:1115
    .15
    
    Richard,
    
    Wny do you insist on being antagonistic???  What in the world have I
    ever done to you to create such an atmosphere?  
    
    This is a blatant insult and is an example of what I've been saying to
    you over the past few months.  ...  Where is your heart of love towards
    me?  Where is your Christianity when you say things this way?
    
    Isn't that the question you throw at me whenever I express openly and
    honestly my beliefs about homosexuality???
    
    
925.17BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Mon Jun 27 1994 18:169


	Yeah Richard! You should never of said you want to be like her! How
dare you! Go to your room! :-)



Glen
925.18Typical19570::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Jun 27 1994 20:028
re .17

Glen, look at the title of .14.

Isn't it obvious that Richard was just dripping with sarcasm when he wrote
that reply?

/john
925.19CSC32::J_CHRISTIEHeat-seeking pacifistMon Jun 27 1994 21:1113
    Part of it may have been sarcasm.  Part of it was not.
    
    I'm seriously considering starting a policy of: "Anything that disagrees
    with my genuine and authentic Christian theology, outlook and way of life
    is a lie."
    
    There's a certain verve and vitality to that brand of Christianity,
    don't you agree?
    
    Why shouldn't I wish to become more Christian in this way?
    
    Richard
    
925.20Think you might answer my question?JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jun 27 1994 21:198
    .19
    
    Says it all...  Richard you are truly dramatic, verbose and offensive. 
    I pray to God there is more happiness in your life then reflects in
    this type of noting.
    
    In His Love,
    Nancy
925.21LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T)Mon Jun 27 1994 21:2115
re Note 925.20 by JULIET::MORALES_NA:

>     .19
>     
>     Says it all...  Richard you are truly dramatic, verbose and offensive. 
>     I pray to God there is more happiness in your life then reflects in
>     this type of noting.
  
        Richard *may* be offensive at times, but being offensive
        isn't per se always wrong -- as any evangelical Christian
        would tell you.

        Richard uses offense in amazingly thought-provoking ways.

        Bob
925.22JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jun 27 1994 21:2312
    .21
    
    Your defense of his obvious intent to be antagonistic towards myself is
    also not surprising.
    
    If in fact it can be thought provoking some merit can be had, when in
    fact it is just provoking therein lies no value.
    
    Richard, I'm told that you were once a loving, gentle, caring man, I
    wish I could have seen that side of you.
    
    
925.23CSC32::J_CHRISTIEHeat-seeking pacifistMon Jun 27 1994 21:234
    In the words of the followers of Saint Rush:  Ditto!
    
    Richard
    
925.24JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jun 27 1994 21:341
    Ditto means I love you, right?
925.25HURON::MYERSTue Jun 28 1994 01:076
    Ditto means "the same as stated before", or in the vernacular, "yeah,
    like he said." 

    Eric

    PS. If money is a problem, I'll spring the $5.00 for a dictionary. :^)
925.26JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Jun 28 1994 02:315
    Ditto was redefined in Ghost. :-)
    
    I'll take the $5.00 bucks though!
    
    Nancy
925.27COMET::DYBENTue Jun 28 1994 15:326
    
    
    > David A. Dyben and Nancy Faye Morales
    
    
      Thats an awfully ambitious goal there son..........:-)
925.28COMET::DYBENTue Jun 28 1994 15:368
    
    
    
    Fleischer
    
    > Richard uses it in an amazing
    
     ...what a joke
925.29When will it end??????CSC32::KINSELLAA tree with a rotten core cannot stand.Thu Jun 30 1994 22:4117
    Do I really want to do this???
    
    Ummm...UGH!  Yes.
    
    When I recently came back in this file on a more full-time basis, I
    scanned the recent entries to review what had been happening.  I
    noticed note 922 where Dave Dawson, a gone but definitely not forgotten
    and well-respected fellow noter, begged that the games that we're being
    played cease.  That was last month.  Some of you have continued to keep
    hurling barbs regardless of this request, and not to mention other
    people's feelings. I do believe that all of us are capable of opposing
    a view without having to lower ourselves and this file with slanderous
    accusations and pointedly cruel insults.  Whether these are used as is
    or in the form of **humor** does not change what they are.  I do pray
    that this is not going to be a constant struggle here.
    
    Jill