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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

924.0. "Peter, Cephas" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (C-P Moderator no more) Sun May 22 1994 19:31

Even a casual reading of the Gospels leads one to the notion that Jesus
left his vision, message and mission in some pretty shaky hands.

Prince of wafflers is Peter.  Peter's faith and zeal seemed to run hot
and cold.

The portrayal of Peter in the Gospels to me is one of a fallible, but
highly endearing human being.  He seemed to be full of love and good
intentions.  On occasion, Peter would burst forth with some definitive
action or proclamation which, probably to his surprise, wasn't always
what Jesus would have had of him to do or say.

What are your thoughts of Peter?  How is your faith like Peter's?  How
is it different?

Shalom,
Richard

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924.1JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAMon May 23 1994 12:5210
    RE: .0
    
    Peter was the favorite character used by a former priest I heard. He
    would point out how *human* Peter was...and how much we could benifit
    in our lives by following how Christ treated Peter.
    
    I need to study Peter's life more, I find it much more like me at
    times. Quite a contrast to Paul...
    
    Marc H.
924.2AIMHI::JMARTINMon May 23 1994 14:5319
    Many years ago, I read an interesting book by Tim LaHaye called,
    "Transformed Temperaments".  The book centered on four of them.
    
    Abraham the Phlegmatic
    Paul the Choleric
    Moses the Melancholy
    Peter the Sanguine
    
    Very interesting commentary of these four personalities.  Peter, a
    sanguine individual, had attributes of boldness at times and weakness
    at times.  He also had the dubious distinction of putting his foot in
    his mouth.
    
    I think it is interesting to note that Peters transformation as a
    powerful ally of the gospel started in Acts chapter 2 on the day of
    Pentecost, and never seemed to wane.  It shows you how without the Holy
    Spirit we can't accomplish anything.
    
    -Jack
924.3Still Had His TrialsSTRATA::BARBIERIMon May 23 1994 16:5411
      re: .2
    
      Hi,
    
        However, Peter still demonstrated his faults.  Paul records
        in Galatians (2:11-) that Peter separated himself from the
        Gentiles seemingly being 'ashamed' to be seen with them by 
        Jewish Christians to be hanging out with Gentiles or at least 
        living as them perhaps.
    
                                                    Tony
924.4CSC32::J_CHRISTIEC-P Moderator no moreMon May 23 1994 17:065
    .3 True, true.  Paul thunked Peter for waffling again.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
924.5AIMHI::JMARTINTue May 24 1994 20:3714
    Yes, this was quite apparent in Acts during his "discussion" with Paul
    on the need to be circumcised as a Jew before a gentile could become a
    Christian.  There was no doubt that his boldness stood out.  
    
    It is traditionally taught that Peter was crucified upside down.  He
    considered himself unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus;
    nevertheless Jesus told him on the shore of galilee (sp?) that the time
    would come when he would stretch forth his hands and he would be taken
    where he did not want to go.  
    
    Amazing how the chicken of Jerusalem spoke boldly in Jerusalem to the 
    three thousand!
    
    -Jack
924.6CSLALL::HENDERSONBe thereTue May 24 1994 20:5010

 I heard a preacher say once that you can take all of the lessons Peter 
 learned in the Gospels and see them lived out in his letters.  Of all the
 questions that were asked in the Gospels, Peter asked the most.




 Jim
924.7I & II PeterCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPacifist HellcatTue May 24 1994 21:4310
    Of course, there's more than a remote possibility that the two
    letters which appear in the New Testament were not by the hand
    of the fisherman from Galilee.
    
    I don't intend to dispute whatever position anyone might have
    concerning this.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
924.8CSLALL::HENDERSONBe thereWed May 25 1994 13:184


 But of course....
924.9POWDML::FLANAGANResident AlienWed May 25 1994 17:2111
    Richard,
    
    Thanks for the pointer.  I could not figure out which writings the 
    fisherman was suppose to have written.
    
    You mean those erudite Greek writings in the tail end of the Bible.
    Writen by a Jerusalem fisherman, eh!
    
    Amazing.
    
    Patricia.
924.10CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPacifist HellcatWed May 25 1994 18:097
    .9  It is not uncommon to find a scholar who asserts that I & II Peter
    were written about the same time as the Revelation, long after Peter
    had met his end.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
924.11POWDML::FLANAGANResident AlienWed May 25 1994 18:201
    or perhaps two.