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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

633.0. "My idea of heaven on earth would be...." by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Rise Again!) Mon Apr 05 1993 21:12

    in 100 lines or less.
    
    Richard
    
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633.1My Idea Would Be...MSBCS::JMARTINTue Apr 06 1993 15:147
    To have Ronald Reagan as president and Colin Powell as Vice
    President while Nancy is on a four year assignment with the Peace Corp.
    in Uganda!!!
    
    Best wishes!!! (Literally)
    
    -Jack
633.2CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistTue Apr 06 1993 15:516
    Enough money to pay my bills without working or worrying about it.
    Time to spend on learning and teaching. Also to be able to play
    basketball all day without pain the next. And a warm place to swim
    every day.
    
    		Alfred
633.4CSC32::J_CHRISTIERise Again!Tue Apr 06 1993 23:074
It would be really nice to be able to hug people while standing up.

Richard

633.5MORO::BEELER_JEWe'll always have ParisTue Apr 06 1993 23:464
    ... Digital as it was about 15 years ago ....
    
    :-(
    Bubba
633.6If I were in charge of HeavenAPACHE::MYERSWed Apr 07 1993 14:0013
    No birth defects.
    No handicaps.
    No disease.
    No natural disasters.
    No hate.
    No fear.

    Money would have no value.  Power would have no place.  We would gladly
    clothe our brothers and feed our sisters.  We would respect the planet
    that God has given us.  Nationalism, ethnocentrism, racism... all would
    be unknown concepts.  The human race would not be a rat race.

    	Eric
633.7All would be wholeCSC32::J_CHRISTIERise Again!Wed Apr 07 1993 16:1231
When I first toyed with the idea of starting this particular string,
I have to confess the first flood of thoughts that poured through my
mind had to do with the fulfillment of sensuous fantasies involving
incredibly gorgeous and equally unattainable goddesses such as Heather
Locklear.

That passed fairly quickly.

I then examined my own life, my own shortcomings, and those things in
life that I have been deprived of.

I then looked at this world I share with others and I thought about what
God calls us to be for each other.  Heaven on earth became a matter of
rearranging priorities.  Instead of being task-oriented, people would be
relationship oriented.

The insanity of war would cease.  The people of Northern Ireland would
find a way to live in justice and harmony, as would the people of the
Middle East, and all the other smoldering areas of the world that flare
up generation after generation with hateful, vengeful violence.

There would be no power-mongers, no Hitlers, no Stalins, no Saddams,
no Bushs.

There would be no homelessness, no hunger.

Life threatening diseases would not exist.  All would be whole.

Love and mercy would abound.

Richard
633.8MSBCS::JMARTINWed Apr 07 1993 17:035
    Richard:
    
    To sum it up, a world without sin!!
    
    -Jack
633.9BSS::VANFLEETHelpless jelloWed Apr 07 1993 17:146
    Heaven on earth for me would be all people honoring and respecting the
    divine gift of life in ourselves, in each other and all of God's 
    creation.
    
    Nanci
    
633.10CSC32::J_CHRISTIERise Again!Wed Apr 07 1993 19:4715
Okay...time to add a light-hearted one:

   No foods would be fattening.

   Non-nutrious foods would be "good for you."

   Jam on bread would never fall face down on new carpeting.

   All the "good ones" wouldn't be taken already.

   Kids would skip their teen years.

   Nobody would remind themselves of their parents when they looked in
   the mirror.

633.11Re: My idea of heaven on earth would be....QUABBI::"ferwerda@loptsn.nuo.dec.com"Wed Apr 07 1993 20:1123

The ending of each of our individual rebellions against God, myself most
especially. 
Rm 3.23, 7.19

That would take care of the problems. 8-)  

Fortunately.... Rm 7.24,25a  "Wretched man that I am!  Who will deliver me
from this body of death?  Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord!"


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633.12Dreaming along...STUDIO::GUTIERREZCitizen of the CosmosThu Apr 08 1993 12:3924
    
    
    	Following Richard's lead, and thinking on lighter terms:
    
    		No income taxes to file every year, no IRS to worry about.
    
    		Government is ruled by and for the people, not by politicians.
    
    		Lawyers, courts, armies, police and jails are not needed, 
    		for crime is non-existant and we all live in peace.
    
		All businesses, corporations and utilities are owned
    		and regulated by and for the people.
    
		Housing, medical care, and education are free for everyone
    		who needs it.
    
		Jobs for everyone who wants one; recession, inflation and
    		unemployment would not exist. 
    
    	Yes, I know...  I'm asking for Utopia. But we can dream, can't we ?.
    
				Juan
                                            
633.13You seem to be forgetting God...CSC32::KINSELLAit's just a wheen o' blethersMon Apr 12 1993 18:086
    
    Worshipping God continuously and forever.  Singing His praises.
    Laying crowns at His feet.  Enjoying eternal fellowship with
    my Lord and Savior.
    
    Jill
633.14CSC32::J_CHRISTIEDeclare Peace!Mon Apr 12 1993 18:226
    .13  Most can barely stand an hour in church.  Doin' watcha' do in
    church for all eternity doesn't sound all that appeallin' to a lot
    of folks. :-)
    
    Richard
    
633.15CSLALL::HENDERSONHe lives, He livesMon Apr 12 1993 18:259

 If the singing sounded half as good as it has in my church lately, I'd be
quite happy with that and the sweet fellowship.  




Jim
633.16Eternal anthems echoing: Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia!COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Apr 12 1993 19:0516
>    .13  Most can barely stand an hour in church.  Doin' watcha' do in
>    church for all eternity doesn't sound all that appeallin' to a lot
>    of folks. :-)
>    
>    Richard

Yet the descriptions of heaven in the Revelation of St. John the Divine are
quite close to the solemn Eucharists at my parish, which are never shorter
than one and a half hours, last two hours on any major feast, and up to three
hours during Holy Week.

"If that's not a Solemn High Mass then I'm a blue-nosed gopher" -- Fr. Mead.

The Holy Eucharist is a foretaste of the Wedding Feast of the Lamb.

/john
633.17CSC32::J_CHRISTIEDeclare Peace!Mon Apr 12 1993 19:254
    .16  Indeed, there's a lot of weird stuff mentioned in
    the Revelation. ;-)
    
    Richard
633.18CSC32::KINSELLAEternity..your choice..smoking or non-smoking.Mon Apr 12 1993 23:098
    
    If people don't like worshipping God, heaven ain't the place for
    them.  It's not just going to be this place free from the things
    that plague this world where we do whatever we want.  I would 
    imagine that the best of our best worship services here on earth
    are a dull comparison to what awaits God's people in heaven.
    
    Jill
633.19CSC32::J_CHRISTIEDeclare Peace!Mon Apr 12 1993 23:207
    You'll probably be assigned a different mansion than me.  At least,
    I hope.  You couldn't entice me with with such a vision of Heaven,
    and I'm one of the ones who enjoys worship.
    
    :-)
    Richard
    
633.20What! Share a mansion?CSC32::KINSELLAEternity...smoking or non-smoking?Mon Apr 12 1993 23:308
    
    I just think heaven is going to be *alot* more God-focused than you or
    I can imagine.  Even as Christians, we are way too focused on our
    lives, and our families, and our God, and our church, and our faith.
    I mean to show how "me" focused we all are...I just always assumed
    I'd get my very own mansion.  Aren't I the spoiled one!?!?!?!?!?!?!
    
    Jill