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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
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Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

616.0. "Baptized with Fire" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Rise Again!) Fri Mar 12 1993 20:06

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616.1DEMING::VALENZAFrom soup to notes.Thu Mar 18 1993 12:025
  >What do you believe it means to be baptized with fire?
    
    I think it could be extremely painful.
    
    -- Mike
616.2not something I worry about CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistThu Mar 18 1993 12:2610
    One possibility: Acts 2:3-4 "And there appeared unto them cloven
    tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were
    all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues,
    as the Spirit gave them utterance." This is the story of Pentacost.

    An other is that the "fire" refers to hardships that will come to
    Christians because they are Christians that God will use to strengthen
    them as a metallurgist uses fire to temper steel.

    		Alfred
616.3STUDIO::GUTIERREZCitizen of the CosmosThu Mar 18 1993 14:437
    		
    
    	The word "fire" has been used symbolically in mystical writings 
    	to represent the higher mind principle, while "water" represents 
    	the emotional aspect, "earth" the physical aspect, "air" the 
    	intuition and "aether" spirit.
        
616.4MSBCS::JMARTINTue Mar 23 1993 20:079
    I personally believe Baptism by fire is what was experienced on
    pentacost.  I also agree that fire is used in the Bible as a way of
    testing faith.  1st Cor: 3 says our works will be tested by fire.
    
    Also, it is used as a sign of purifying.  Rev. 3, God tells the
    Laodician Church to purify their gold with fire, I.E. you have impure
    lives, clean up your act!
    
    -Jack
616.5Opinion of a silent reader.DEMING::HAKIMFri Mar 26 1993 19:4817
616.6STUDIO::GUTIERREZCitizen of the CosmosMon Mar 29 1993 12:5310
 RE: .5
    
>The terms "water" and "fire" have metaphorical meanings of "knowledge"
>and "love" respectively. 

	Yes, we are in agreement there, water = love(emotional) aspects,
    	fire = knowledge(mental) aspects.
	
    			Juan
616.7JURAN::HAKIMMon Mar 29 1993 13:077
    Re: .6
    
    I suggested the reverse.
    
    Regards,
    
    Kamran Hakim