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| 367.1 | Of well known people | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | On a peaceable crusade | Wed Dec 18 1991 17:09 | 17 |
| A few suggestions for the most "unlovable" in the U.S. Christmas Card list:
o Manuel Noriega
o Geraldo Rivera
o Jimmy Swaggart
o Jeffrey Dahmer
o Madeline Murray O'Hare
o Board of Directors of the ACLU
o The American Nazi Party
Richard
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| 367.2 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Thu Dec 19 1991 00:12 | 30 |
| Classifications or groupings of persons most frequently perceived
as contemptible, disgraceful, shiftless, perverse, bitchy, whiney,
pitiful and/or lost:
o Welfare or ADC recipients
o The overweight, especially overweight women
o Gays, lesbians, bisexuals
o Outspoken women
o Americans who refuse to pledge allegiance to the flag
o The elderly, especially those on a fixed income
o Ambitious and/or aggressive women
o Pacifists, war resisters
o Satanists
o Whistleblowers
o The chronically ill
o Secular humanists
Richard
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| 367.3 | A few more for the Christmas card list | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Sat Dec 21 1991 18:19 | 18 |
| o Roseanne Barr Arnold, especially since her stylization of the
national anthem. She's also an overweight, outspoken, and
ambitious woman (see list in .2).
o Jane Fonda, who can't seem to be able to escape her image as
a traitor.
o Lynden LeRouche
o Charles Manson
o Richard Nixon
o Rev. Sun Myung Moon
Peace,
Richard
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| 367.4 | Another Light in the world! | ATSE::FLAHERTY | That's enough for me... | Mon Dec 23 1991 13:20 | 12 |
| Hi Richard,
I would send Roseaane Barr Arnold a Christmas card, but not for because
she is hated. Instead for the wonderful work she is doing with adults
and children who are victims of incestual abuse. I heard her speak
recently on Oprah about her own childhood and the abuse she suffered.
The work she is doing is inspirational and she has a large following of
admirers because of it. It took courage for her to speak out as she
has. Three cheers to Roseanne, poor singing voice et al.
Ro
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| 367.5 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Mon Dec 23 1991 17:27 | 9 |
| I personally bear no ill will against any celebrity I've listed.
I am opposed, I confess, to many of the actions and the mindsets
of Oliver North, George Bush, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
The people I really have a problem liking have never reached celebrity
status. No use in posting their names. No one would recognize them.
Peace,
Richard
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| 367.6 | | AKOCOA::FLANAGAN | waiting for the snow | Fri Dec 27 1991 15:34 | 7 |
| Richard,
I find myself in several of those groupings that you identifies in .2
as the most despised. What does this mean?
pat
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| 367.7 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Fri Dec 27 1991 18:37 | 10 |
| Re: .6
Pat,
I find myself in several of those groupings, also! I think it
makes us more difficult for some people to love. I think it makes us
less likely to be universally popular.
Peace,
Richard
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| 367.8 | Hating and loving simultaneously? | BUFFER::CIOTO | | Mon Dec 30 1991 17:42 | 22 |
| Cindy,
How can one send a card to someone one hates? Doesn't that smack of
hypocrisy? Wouldn't it be better to send a card when we no longer
harbor hatred toward, and genuinely forgive, said hated person?
I sent a Christmas card to my ex, after a year and a half of non-
communication, to demonstrate 'no hard feelings.' A simple note,
with best wishes for health/happiness. I feel I hold ample forgiveness
in my heart at this point -- even after what this monstrous person DID
to me! ;) ;) -- and hope that it is a genuine gesture.
St. Paul
P.S. I admit I can't muster up much love/forgiveness in my heart for
people like Jimmy Swaggart -- people who, in the name of God, dupe and rip
off the general public. Any advice?
Richard, re: Your groupings. Who the hell DOESN'T belong to one or
more of these groups!? ;) All of us seem to be hated by SOMEONE for
SOME reason at any given moment in our lives!
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| 367.9 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Mon Dec 30 1991 18:21 | 21 |
| > How can one send a card to someone one hates?
It's a real stretch, isn't it?
> Doesn't that smack of hypocrisy?
Only if you don't mean it.
> Wouldn't it be better to send a card when we no longer
> harbor hatred toward, and genuinely forgive, said hated person?
This seems to be a worthwhile exercise, as well.
> Richard, re: Your groupings. Who the hell DOESN'T belong to one or
> more of these groups!? ;) All of us seem to be hated by SOMEONE for
> SOME reason at any given moment in our lives!
Good point! What does that say about the nature of hate?
Peace,
Richard
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| 367.10 | A bit of a diversion, but... | LJOHUB::NSMITH | rises up with eagle wings | Tue Dec 31 1991 10:18 | 31 |
| |> How can one send a card to someone one hates?
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|It's a real stretch, isn't it?
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|> Doesn't that smack of hypocrisy?
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|Only if you don't mean it.
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|> Wouldn't it be better to send a card when we no longer
|> harbor hatred toward, and genuinely forgive, said hated person?
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|This seems to be a worthwhile exercise, as well.
Changing *behavior* can lead to changed feelings. Many of our laws,
such as integrating schools, are enacted before we "feel like
associating with *them*." If we are never forced to *behave*
differently, there is much less motive to change our feelings and
attitudes.
Someone once said that the best way to make an enemy your friend is to
ask him for a favor! If he grants that favor, it will be much less
difficult for him to continue to be as strong an enemy! (Kind of the
reverse of "heaping coals of fire" in Romans.)
Anyway, it's all part of the same picture, IMO... (Not that I would
be the least inclined to send a card to some public figure I dislike...
but I might consider sending one to someone from whom I was personally
estranged...)
Nancy
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