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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

273.0. "Christianity and 12 Step Programs" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Full of green M&M's) Thu Jul 11 1991 23:48

    This note for consideration of 12-step programs as they relate to
    Christianity.
    
    Peace,
    Richard
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273.1DPDMAI::DAWSONA Different LightFri Jul 12 1991 01:537
    RE: .0 Richard,
    
                          Are you talking about AA and ACOA type programs?
    If you are then I can tell you (being an ACOA) that they teach a love
    for "a" higher power.
    
    Dave
273.2CSC32::J_CHRISTIEFull of green M&M'sFri Jul 12 1991 19:1010
    Re: -1
    
    You've got the right idea.  There are lots of such programs, usually
    set up for persons experiencing addictions and codependencies.
    
    Are such programs complementary to the Christian faith, or contrary to
    the Christian faith, or what?
    
    Peace,
    Richard
273.3one viewpointTFH::KIRKa simple songMon Jul 15 1991 12:2827
Hi Richard,

As an ACoA and incest survivor, and hence a member of the ACOA and ISA family 
groups, I can say that I have found tremendous spiritual strength and support 
in such groups.  My life has literally been saved through these programs.

Being fashioned after AA, they are designed to be spiritual groups, not 
religious groups.  They have borrowed the heart of love from many sources.

Of some of the groups I have seen, if there is any specific leaning, it is in
fact towards a traditional Judeo-Christian faith...for example the Lord's
Prayer is often used as a meeting opener or closer.  (This is often modified 
in ISA groups to "Our God, which art in Heaven...", because the image of such
a loving father can be quite alien.) 

Over all, I would think that such programs are not only complementary to the 
Christian faith, but to all Love centered faiths, as well.  Further, I've seen 
nothing *contrary* to the Christian faith, in any practical matter.

That is, anonymous programs intend to be silent on any matter of theology, 
while being a source of strength while one explores their own spiritual path.

Take what you need, and leave the rest... .-)

Peace,

Jim
273.412-step meeting for ChristiansSTAR::CHARPENTIERThu Aug 22 1991 16:349
    Not too much time to note right now but....
    
    Yes, complemetary for me too.
    
    And, there is a 12-step for christians meeting in Hudson NH
    that is an even better combination for me.  It has been meeting
    for 1 year now but I just discovered it recently.
    
    Dolores
273.5Would like to know moreCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPeace on itThu Aug 22 1991 23:109
Note 273.4

Dolores CHARPENTIER,

	Welcome to C-P!  I hope you'll tell us more about it when
you have the time.

Blessings,
Richard
273.6greeting to a familiar faceTFH::KIRKa simple songFri Aug 23 1991 00:457
Hi Dolores!

Fancy meeting you here!

((hugs)),

Jim
273.7Your "welcome" feels good! Thanks.STAR::CHARPENTIERFri Aug 23 1991 11:507
    Thank you, Richard.
    
    Hi Jim!!!!
    
    I've been here but read-only for a while.
    
    Dolores