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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

249.0. "The Newsletter Note" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Human) Wed Jun 05 1991 22:23

	This note for announcements about members of our community
	our extended community, and other newsy stuff.

	Peace,
	Richard
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249.1Cal Hoe & familyCSC32::J_CHRISTIEHumanWed Jun 05 1991 23:0923
Last night I heard from Cal Hoe via telephone.  He sends his greetings to
all here in the noting community.  Cal found his Cursillo experience this
past weekend rewarding and enriching.

A lot of us had followed the growth of Sammy, the Hoe's son, through updates
in Cal's "personal_name."  Sammy turned 3 last month (May 3rd, 1991).

Cal asked for prayers for his spouse, Judy, who is facing major surgery to
fuse her right ankle.  She is in incredible pain, Cal says.  And, according
to the doctors, the worst thing they could do at this point is to do nothing.
Complicating matters, Judy's heart has stopped under anesthesia twice before
in the past.

Cal is still pursuing job prospects.  But he expressed his gratefulness to the
Lord that he can take this time to nurse and care for Judy, and also, to provide
Sammy with the attention a young child needs and deserves.  He's grateful,
too, for the folks who've taken Sammy for a day or an afternoon and given
Cal and Judy a little bit of a break.

Anyone wanting to send Cal a personal note may address it to me and I will
make sure it gets to Cal.

Richard
249.2UpdateCSC32::J_CHRISTIECenterpeaceFri Aug 02 1991 22:0711
I heard from Cal Hoe today.  Employment possibilities are emerging.  Two
strong possibilities are in the San Jose area and one is here in Colorado
Springs.  Cal's personal preference is to remain in the Springs.  However,
he is "remaining open to the leadings of the Lord," as he puts it.

Judy still requires surgery.

Let's keep the Hoe family in our prayers.

Peace,
Richard
249.3CARTUN::BERGGRENsweet smells of summertimeMon Aug 05 1991 12:535
    Richard,
    
    Thanks very much for the update on Cal!
    
    Karen
249.4Praise reportCSC32::J_CHRISTIECenterpeaceWed Aug 07 1991 19:4215
Cal Hoe called late last night and announced that, to his great pleasure
and praise to our loving, creator God, the Hoe family will be remaining
in Colorado Springs.  Cal has accepted a position with another computer
company.  I won't mention the name, but it does rhyme with "pray!" ;-}
He starts next Monday at the same salary he was earning at DEC.

Further, the Hoe's have extended an offer on a house only a few blocks
away from the Jones-Christie domecile.  We might just be neighbors in
the near future.

I told Cal that I realized these times of transition can be very stressful
and that we would continue to keep him, Judy, and Sammy in our prayers.

Peace,
Richard
249.5WILLEE::FRETTSI'm part of you/you're part of meWed Aug 07 1991 19:504
    
    That's good news Richard!
    
    Carole
249.6Sammy's moving!!CSC32::J_CHRISTIECenterpeaceFri Aug 09 1991 20:466
The Hoe's offer on the house was accepted.  Cal figures they'll be moving
sometime in September.  Judy is feeling better.  She's currently off
medication.

Peace,
Richard
249.7BSS::VANFLEETTime for a cool change...Tue Aug 13 1991 15:063
Wow!  Great news about the Hoe family, Richard!  Thanks for sharing that.

Nanci
249.8DessertCSC32::J_CHRISTIEWatch your peace & cuesFri Aug 30 1991 23:026
	Cal, Judy and Sammy Hoe will be our guests for dessert tomorrow
evening Saturday, August 31.  I shall bid them greetings on behalf of all
the Noters who remember 'Cal and company.'

Peace,
Richard
249.9CSC32::J_CHRISTIEBring me some figgy pudding!Thu Dec 05 1991 21:0561
Doncha just hate those impersonal "nicey, nice" generic letters that typically
include all the children's successes and other folksy news that some tacky
people include in with their Christmas cards every year?

Yeah?  Me, too.

Here's the one I'm sending out this year: *<8+}**
==============================================================================
						Advent 1991

	Dear Friends,

		I'm pleased to be writing you this season.  Unlike last year
	at this time, our nation seems less stubbornly intent on jangling
	sabers in the name of sovereignty, righteousness, and ultimately, our
	oil interests.  This is not to ignore the lamentable fact that there
	remain numerous global locations embroiled in the insanity of war.
	With Divine guidance, may we faithfully struggle to bring about a
	cohesive peace with all the cohabitants of this battered and wounded
	planet.

		To bring you up to date on the events of our family:

		Jennifer (16) is a bright and popular high school sophomore
	and an excellent student.  She's employed part-time at Dairy Queen.
	She's working diligently towards paying off her car.

		Ricky (11) is in the sixth grade.  He's taking Kenpo (Karate-
	Kung Fu) lessons and has earned his yellow belt (3rd level).  He spent
	nearly three weeks this summer doing chores on his Aunt Kathleen and
	Uncle Bill's farm in Shawnee, Kansas.  He also explored the lifestyles
	of radical Christian social activists by sharing a few days in the
	company of our dear friends Peter and Mary Sprunger-Froese.

		To provide parental guidance and nurturing to our children
	during the evenings, Sharon resigned her staff position as Director
	of Religious Education at All Souls Unitarian Church when my work
	hours were changed to second shift.  Still Sharon managed to take a
	continuing education class on intimacy, to workout at the "Y", and
	to enjoy the extraordinary beauty of our vicinity through several
	brief bicycle excursions.

		As for me, well, I've sharply curtailed many of my community,
	scholastic, and church involvements.  I've moved my church membership
	to Pikes Peak Metropolitan Community Church where I've served on
	occasion as pulpit supply and in other ways.

		We thoroughly enjoyed the visits of my father, Vern Christie,
	and our friends Bob and Donna Manor, the Bruce and Donna Morgan family,
	and author-lecturer Beverly Barbo.  We also enjoyed our trip to Kansas
	in July.

		It is my most earnest prayer that your Christmas is filled
	with significance and joy, and your New Year with prosperity and
	contentment.  May you realize a dream or two.  May you continue to
	grow in mind and spirit.  May you commit multiple acts of indiscriminate
	kindness and generosity.

					Quantum quantities of love,

					          Richard
249.10CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistMon Dec 09 1991 01:059
>Doncha just hate those impersonal "nicey, nice" generic letters that typically
>include all the children's successes and other folksy news that some tacky
>people include in with their Christmas cards every year?
    
    Actually I love them. I wish more people would send them out. I think
    we're going to this year for the first time. Perhaps I'll enter it
    here. Thanks for entering yours Richard.
    
    			Alfred
249.11Update on the Cal Hoe familyCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPeace: the Final FrontierFri Jan 17 1992 00:036
I heard from good ol' Cal Hoe today.  Sammy is having a tonsillectomy on
February 14th (St. Valentine's Day).  Cal and Judy will be taking him to
see "Sesame Street on Ice" the weekend prior.

Peace,
Richard
249.12Lee LaffertyTNPUBS::PAINTERlet there be musicMon Jan 20 1992 15:0410
    
    Lee Lafferty dropped by yesterday.  He's back in the NH area looking 
    for a job in the computer industry, and in the meantime is selling 
    and servicing Electrolux vacumm (?) cleaners.  
    
    He said to say 'hi' to everyone.  If you want to get in touch with him,
    he can be reached through Electrolux at 603-882-6650.  If you'd like
    his home phone, contact me offline.
    
    Cindy
249.13I *can't* tell you!!CSC32::J_CHRISTIEOnly Nixon can go to ChinaThu Jul 30 1992 17:169
I am *bursting* with exciting news about some people who frequent this
conference!  But, it's not my place to say anything.  So I won't.

Sorry!

;-}

Richard

249.14SOLVIT::MSMITHSo, what does it all mean?Thu Jul 30 1992 17:313
    Oh, I *hate* people like you! :)
    
    Mike
249.15OFFSHR::PAY$FRETTSgive thanks for the truthThu Jul 30 1992 20:597
    
    
    What???!!!  What??!!!  I hate when this happens!! :^(
    
    ;^)
    
    Carole
249.16CSC32::J_CHRISTIEOnly Nixon can go to ChinaThu Jul 30 1992 21:055
    Perhaps the ones who know will speak for themselves.
    
    <goad, goad>
    
    Richard
249.17An AnnouncementUSCTR1::RTRUEBLOODRollyn Trueblood DTN 297-6553Fri Jul 31 1992 14:1522
Re 249.13

Richard has put a few inquiries together about
Quaker Weddings to draw a conclusion with 100%
accuracy. Two noters within this conference are
beginning to plan their wedding. 

Mary Beth Mackey and I are planning to marry
in December. The distance - Colorado Springs/
Marlboro - would not have been spanned but
for this notes file. We have not told our children
yet, but they will know in a couple of weeks.

For those of you who are Friends or have been
to a Friend's wedding, we'd appreciate
any observations you have as to rites within the
Society of Friends. Its been a long time since
I have been Home among my kith and kin...I have
forgotten more than I remember.

Best wishes,
Rollyn Trueblood
249.18ATSE::FLAHERTYWings of fire: Percie and meFri Jul 31 1992 14:269
    Rollyn and Mary Beth,
    
    Best wishes in your forthcoming marriage.
    
    Ro
    
    p.s. Richard, you had me guessing for awhile as I thought of other
    C-Pers it could have been!!  8^)
    
249.19SOLVIT::MSMITHSo, what does it all mean?Fri Jul 31 1992 14:271
    Congratulations!  May all the best be yours.
249.20Mary Beth and RollynCSC32::J_CHRISTIEOnly Nixon can go to ChinaFri Jul 31 1992 15:1811
    Rollyn,
    
    Congratulations and best wishes to both you and Mary Beth.  I am
    truly amazed that God and love will do what they do even through 
    this less-than-perfect medium.
    
    I've known Mary Beth a few years now.  I worked on the same team
    as her for a couple of those years.  She is a kind and caring woman.
    You are most fortunate, as I am sure she is equally so.
    
    Richard
249.21Good news really *does* travel fast... BSS::M_MACKEYMusic is the soul's own speechFri Jul 31 1992 21:065
    Thank you, Richard and everyone else, for your warm wishes.  Yes, I am
    equally fortunate.  I'm sure that I can speak for Rollyn when I say
    that we are all, our children included, well blessed. 
    
    Mary Beth
249.22CARTUN::BERGGRENUnexpect the expectedMon Aug 03 1992 17:0410
    Dear Rollyn and Mary Beth,
    
    Very best wishes and all happiness to you and your families 
    as you join together and become One.  I'm so glad C-P was able
    to help bring your hearts and souls together, despite the physical 
    miles which separated you. :-)
    
    Many blessings,
    
    Karen
249.23Great news!BSS::VANFLEETPerspective. Use it or lose it.Mon Aug 03 1992 22:049
    Rollyn and Mary Beth - 
    
    Congratulations!  :-)  I'd heard from a mutual friend in New Hampshire
    that Mary Beth was getting married but I didn't know it was to Rollyn!  
    
    Mary Beth - come over and get your congratulation hugs in person.  I
    also have some from PJ.
    
    Nanci
249.24Word from folks we've not heard from in a whileCSC32::J_CHRISTIEHassel with CareWed Oct 21 1992 01:056
    I've heard from both Mike Seabury and Cindy Painter.  Mike said to say
    hello to everyone.  Cindy says she looks in on C-P only infrequently
    anymore, largely due to her present workload.
    
    Peace,
    Richard
249.25CSC32::J_CHRISTIEStrength through peaceTue Dec 08 1992 17:5250
							Advent 1992


	Greetings!

		You have been selected to be one of the lucky recipients
	of this year's annual Jones-Christie catch-up-on-what's-been-
	happening-with-us-since-last-year form letters!  Congratulations
	just might be in order.

		Okay, so it's not that exciting.  1992 just hasn't been
	filled with oodles of extraordinary events in our lives.  Allow me,
	however, to share these few updates.

		Ricky is now in Junior High School.

		Jennifer will be graduating from High School the Spring of
	1993 and plans to attend the University of Arizona in Tucson in
	the Fall.

		Sharon is taking classes at UCCS.  She hopes to complete the
	requirements for her Bachelor's Degree in the next few semesters.
	It came as a bit of a blow this year for us to learn that Sharon has
	arthritis, the effects of which she's valiantly attempting to stave
	off with a regimen of exercise and diet -- well, most of the time.

		For the moment, I remain employed by Digital Equipment
	Corporation, where I've managed to survive several waves of
	down-sizing.  It's unpredictable how long workforce reductions
	will continue.  And it has been quite painful for me to watch many
	of my coworkers -- some of whom I'd become very fond -- depart,
	never to return.

		I've served my church this year by preaching on occasion.
	And in recent months, I've been serving as Worship Coordinator.

		In April, we hosted a living room performance of Wallace
	Shawn's "The Fever," a disturbing drama performed with searing grace
	and theatrical elegance by our dear friend and champion, Mary
	Sprunger-Froese.  Twelve friends and neighbors gathered in our home
	the evening of the event.

		In this season of hope, let us not allow our gaze to become
	too transfixed on all the glitter and brilliance.  Let us also
	strive to find wonder in the gentle and mild, the mundane and human.
	Let us turn our hearts, minds, and hands to the cause of peace on
	Earth.

						Love to you,
						Richard
249.26UHUH::REINKEFormerly FlahertyWed Dec 09 1992 12:0317
Richard,

<<	It came as a bit of a blow this year for us to learn that Sharon has
<<	arthritis, the effects of which she's valiantly attempting to stave
<<	off with a regimen of exercise and diet -- well, most of the time.

Has Sharon had any type of bodywork or body-centered psychotherapy for 
relief from the arthritis?  Wonderful work is being done with these 
therapies to help relieve the pain and even releasing the cause of the 
symptoms themselves.  FWIW.

Holding Sharon in my prayers and sending her healing thoughts.

Love to you both,

Ro

249.27CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistWed Dec 09 1992 12:2312
<<	It came as a bit of a blow this year for us to learn that Sharon has
<<	arthritis, the effects of which she's valiantly attempting to stave
<<	off with a regimen of exercise and diet -- well, most of the time.

	My wife has arthritis in her knees. It was agravated by a skiing
	accident but the doctor said is was coming anyway. The thing that
	helps her the most is our hot tub. Long soaks in the hot water are
	what get her through the winter (when cold weather makes her knees hurt
	extra often). I've read that doctors and other groups involved in 
	arthritis often suggest hot tubs to those with arthriris.

			Alfred
249.28FATBOY::BENSONWed Dec 09 1992 14:5121
    Both of my parents have had rhuematoid arthritis since their 30s. 
    Staying warm helps of course.  Stress is the most damaging external
    cause of flairups and progression of the disease.  Keeping weight down
    is helpful as you might suspect.
    
    If your wife has rhuematoid arthritis save yourself the heartbreak of
    countless remedies.  It is an auto-immune disease and is still
    difficult to treat.  Aspirin is probably the greatest treatment
    available (with the least side affects).  Small doses of steroids taken
    daily are the usual treatment and are very helpful.  My father's hands
    are severely deformed (he's 60) but incredibly he restores old player
    pianoes and nickleodians from the ground up.  My mother who is also
    severely deformed from it types and has worked all of her life (in
    fact, staying active is important or stiffness becomes a problem).
    
    My mother would be in a wheelchair today if it were not for the
    wonderful inventions of artificial hips and knees.  She has had both on
    one side and will have her other knee replaced in February.  With the
    artificial jointss, there's no pain at all and full functionality.
    
    jeff
249.29Update on C-P Member EmeritusCSC32::J_CHRISTIEDeclare Peace!Tue Apr 13 1993 22:5312
Heard from good ol' Cal Hoe last weekend.  He and his wife Judy are both
holding temporary jobs, he in a computer fix-it shop and Judy in the 
accounts receivable department at Memorial Hospital.

He says his family has left his beloved Episcopal church and they're now
attending Calvary United Methodist Church in Colorado Springs.  Senior Pastor
Harvey Martz, whose name appears elsewhere within this file, has been outspoken
opponent to Colorado's Amendment 2.

Peace,
Richard

249.30Update on BubbaCSC32::J_CHRISTIEOn loan from GodSat Jan 22 1994 00:1612
I heard briefly from our old compadre, Bubba Beeler, last night.  He's
excited about being hired at one of the best, if not THE best, schools
in the vicinity.

He'll be teaching math, computer science and maybe physics further
down the road.

Says Bubba, "There must be a God.  He sure helped me out on this."

Peace,
Richard

249.31CVG::THOMPSONWho will rid me of this meddlesome priest?Mon Jan 24 1994 10:504
    Excited is hardly the word. I've never heard him so happy. He
    starts today I believe. I'll be praying for him.

    		Alfred
249.32looks like a good place for thisCVG::THOMPSONWho will rid me of this meddlesome priest?Wed Jan 26 1994 10:5389
Please post in the BubbaNote:

-------------------------------------------

Well, folks, ol' Bubba has been hired by (what most consider to be) the best
high school in the best district in the area.

The first day of classes was far beyond any expection that I could have even
hoped for.  It was wonderful.  Two sections had students which were deemed to be
"hard core", non-learners, disruptive, etc .. I was even given an extra stack of
discipline forms which are to be submitted for such students who disrupt class -
won't mind - etc.  These slips are not taken lightly for at a minimum the
issuance of one results in "ISS" (In School Suspension). These two classes were
supplemented by a "Special Education" person to assist me with these classes and
in particular, these students.

At the end of the classes the Special Education assistant told me that "if there
were too many teachers like you there would be no need for people like me".
That made me feel VERY good.  I did not issue one discipline form - not one -
there was no need to.  The class interruptions were absolutely minimal.

The following boundary conditions, classroom philosophies,  were set:

I made it crystal clear - at the beginning of class - that I will be addressed
as "Mr. Beeler".  That "sir" IS an appropriate additive to "yes" and "no".  That
"thank you" and "no thank you" ARE appropriate.  That E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E's opinion
WILL be respected.  That if a student wants to be heard they WILL raise their
hand - while one person speaks the others WILL remain silent.  That there is NO
such thing as a "dumb question" - that questions are ENCOURAGED.

I made a major change to "respect must be earned".  I told them that I do it a
little differently - I grant, without hesitation, complete respect to each and
every student in the room.  I anticipate the same in return.  I will do my best
to maintain their respect and I expect the same from them.  The respect that is
"given" is theirs to do with as they please - they may keep it and we'll ge
along fine - and learning will take place.

They can give that respect away, or lose it.  Learning will be more difficult,
not to mention the fact that it will be very difficult to build that respect to
it's former level.  Not impossible, but difficult.

Naturally the first question was "how does one lose that respect?".

One of the BEST ways is to lie to me.  If you didn't do your homework because,
you say, your mother was sick and you had to take care of her .. and two weeks
later I find that you were really at a party - bingo - strike one - you're about
9 notches down (on a scale of one to 10) on the "respect" list.  Tell me the
truth .. you'll remain on the "10" position of respect - but make no mistake
about it - you will work.  Everything carries a consequence and you WILL get
your work done.  You may work harder, but you will get your work done and you
will maintain my respect.

Herein lies a tragedy:  One girl said "you know, I kind of wish my parents were
like that, I can get away with nearly anything".

I let them know that "I came from Texas-dirt-farmer values.  Times have changed
- no doubt about it - but those very same values are just as applicable today as
they were when I was a kid ... and there's little doubt but they'll be just as
applicable when your kids are sitting in this class.  If you have any problems
with my classroom philosophy - let me know. Now, let's get to work".

The response was PHENOMINAL.  Not one iota of disagreement.    Students who (I
was told) never asked for help before asked for help.  Students who were "I
don't care about school" came to me and ASKED if they could be in my class.

Ok, I'll admit .. it's a first impression,  things may change,  but my first
impression was great. Wonderful.  I could not have asked for better.

Yes, my feet are tired .. my mouth goes dry from talking so much .. but .. God
it feels good - it feels good the likes of which I have not felt in a long long
time.

Wish me luck folks .. 

Bubba





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249.33JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAWed Jan 26 1994 12:126
    Re: .32
    
    Old Bubba has found what he really likes......now who says there isn't
    a God.
    
    Marc H.
249.34DEMING::SILVAMemories.....Wed Jan 26 1994 12:228



	God maybe???? ;-)


Glen
249.35think they can make a Catholic out of him?CVG::THOMPSONWho will rid me of this meddlesome priest?Tue Feb 01 1994 10:2919
For posting in Soapbox and CP:
--------------------------------------------

Oh .. one thing I forgot to let y'all know.

I'm also taking some graduate classes.  As part of the alternate certification
process we get some GREAT prices at a private university.

Ol' Bubba is now a student .. at .. a 100% Catholic university.  Saint Thomas
University.

They may have sufficient knowledge of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John .. but .. what
they need now is a good dose of the Gospel According to Bubba.

This could be the beginning of a "new" Catholic philosophy ...

Yours truly,
Reverend Bubba
Church of What's Happenin' Now
249.36Ron FranceyCSC32::J_CHRISTIEHeat-seeking PacifistFri May 13 1994 23:1510
    Received a letter yesterday from former C-P noter, Ron Francey, now
    Reverend Ron Francey.
    
    He and Dot are considering a visit to Colorado in August and, if it
    works out, they want to get together with Sharon and me!
    
    How 'bout that?!
    
    Richard
    
249.37Marc H.CSC32::J_CHRISTIEAccept no substitutes!Thu Jul 14 1994 15:589
    I received a very nice letter from Marc Hildebrandt.
    
    His life is in a bit of upheaval with relocation and a new job and all.
    
    I'm sure he'd appreciate our prayers.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
249.38from AlfredLGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&amp;T)Thu Jul 14 1994 16:3638
From:	US2RMC::"SFYT33A@prodigy.com" "MR ALFRED C THOMPSON" 10-JUL-1994 13:59:59.67
To:	rusure::zaharee
CC:	
Subj:	At least it's network access

I've finally got some network access. Prodigy is the only on line service
that has a phone number local to me. And it's a 9600 baud line to boot.
I'm still going to sign up with and try Compuserve and America on-line once
I locate their 9600 baud lines. For some reason I can't connect anywhere at
1200 or 2400 baud. I guess I can live with 9600. :-)
Anyway can you forward this out to the distribution list I left you so that
people know I'm alive? SFYT33A@prodigy.com should get to me for the time being.
The job hunt is the pits BTW. Everyone wants either heavy Unix/C experiance
or several years of C++ or Visual Basic on PCs. Anyone who hopes to have a
career in computers after Digital better be working on one of those things.
I'm writting some Visual Basic software that I hope to market while I'm
looking for a real job. Even if I can't sell anything at least I'm getting
valuble experiance in VB for Windows. My years of VMS appear worthless in
today's job market.
Regards,
        Alfred


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Bob,

        Feel free to post this address in Notes. Anybody miss me? I do miss
notes. And free Email. Though I don't miss much else of Digital.

        Alfred

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249.39from Dave DawsonSOLVIT::HAECKDebby HaeckTue Aug 02 1994 17:5714
Hi all

Just had a mail message from Dave Dawson.  He is doing well, working at
Texas Tech.  He wanted me to let you know that he can be reached at
dawson@coba2.ttu.edu

I think that for VMS mail you will have to add a gateway name in front of 
that.  So, the mail he sent to me was:

From:	ALPHA::"dawson@coba2.ttu.edu"  2-AUG-1994 13:27:13.94

+++
Debby

249.40Greetings from the Pastors FranceyCSC32::J_CHRISTIELuke 1.78-79Thu Aug 25 1994 23:526
The Revs. Ron and Dot Francey send their greetings to all in C-P, especially
those who remember Ron from his participation in this conference.

Shalom,
Richard

249.41from AlfredLGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16)Wed Sep 07 1994 10:3335
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CC:	
Subj:	Latest Alfred news

Well, I'm working. Teaching computers to grade school kids - believe it or
not. I'm at two schools (2 days a week at each). In one I teach grades 4-8.
In the other I start with kindergarten (5 year olds!) and go to grade 6.
Fun so far but I've only had a few classes. We'll see in a couple of weeks.
The money is poor but I've got lots of time off. :-)

I'm also trying to write some PC software in Visual Basic. If I can finish
it and sell it that will help. IN any case it beats working at Digital. :-)

        Alfred

PS: May be forwarded or posted to notes.

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249.42Marc S HildebrantCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Sep 08 1994 04:4622
From:	US2RMC::"Marc_S_Hildebrant@notes.seagate.com" "Marc S Hildebrant"
To:	covert::covert
Subj:	C-P

Hello John,
       Could you please post my new internet address in C-P so that folks could
send mail to me?  I now work for Seagate in Minnesota and miss the conversation
in C-P.
 
Thanks.....
 
marc_s_hildebrant@notes.seagate.com @ INTERNET
 
Marc
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249.43Ruth Fannin's internet addressCSC32::J_CHRISTIECrossfireThu Sep 22 1994 17:1623
From:	US3RMC::"fannin@medusa.com" !"Ruth Fannin"
Subj:	Please put my address in too

Richard,

Please put my internet address in CP.  I miss my online CP friends and
would love to hear from them.

Ruth 
fannin@medusa.com

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249.44C-P remembered fondlyCSC32::J_CHRISTIEGod's rascalSun Nov 06 1994 18:0312
Sending regards to this file are former C-P noters:

	Nancy Smith

	Marc Hildebrant

	Ruth Fannin

    
Shalom,
Richard

249.45Dave Dawson "sighting"LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16)Wed Feb 01 1995 17:1525
        I was just thinking of Dave Dawson, and then I saw the
        following on the Internet (URL http://hiltop.ostech.com/,
        conference NETNOTES):

        Topic: Sign In 

        Title: Dave Dawson Systems Analyst Texas Tech Bus. Admin. 

        Author: dawson@bam369a-1.ba.ttu.edu "As true as an arrow fly's" 
        Note: 3.16, (16 of 19) , Created: 31-JAN-1995 09:39, 12 Lines


        Hi!  My name is Dave Dawson and I have worked here at
        Texas Tech University Business Administration College for the
        last 6 months.  Before that I worked for Digital Equip. Corp.
        for 10 years so I I do have some experience with Vaxnotes.  As
        a matter of fact I have it on my cluster running right now.  Many
        of the people here at the College had never seen a well thought
        out notes conference before so I have my work cut out for me.
        We are currently working hard to bring up a new Web server and 
        when I saw
        this "product" and my experience with Vaxnotes I 
        thought the marriage might be interesting.  :-)

        Dave Dawson
249.46Update on former C-P participant, Marc HildebrantCSC32::J_CHRISTIEUnquenchable fireFri May 12 1995 15:0511
Word from Marc Hildebrant:

	Marc and his wife and son are joining a United Methodist church in
Eden Prairie, MN, on Sunday, May 21, having relocated there about a year
ago.

	Let's keep Marc and his family in our prayers.

Shalom,
Richard

249.47Word from the Revs. Ron & Dot FranceyCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Tue Jul 25 1995 00:4018
Here's the most current information to contact former C-P participant
Ron Francey and his wife, Dot:

Revs. Ron & Dot Francey
1431 Fourth Street N.
Wahpeton, ND 58075
702-642-1720

or at the church:

Revs. Ron & Dot Francey
UCC of Wahpeton
1202 Westmore Avenue
Wahpeton, ND 58075
702-642-3336

Ron and Dot are ordained ministers in the United Church of Christ.

249.48Word from Alfred ThompsonCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Mon Sep 18 1995 18:5078
I was surprised to receive word from Alfred Thompson yesterday.  The
following is his response to my reply:

>I feel bad because your name came up twice to be sure to invite to
>the next C-P dinner.  Wouldn't you know it?!  It was last Friday night
>in Littleton (I think it was Littleton.  I couldn't go either).

Sorry to have missed it. I've had this account for just over a week but I
lost my list of Email addresses. So I have been sending mail as I remember
names and addresses. I only remembered your address today. Your username was
easy but I kept getting stuck on the node name. Maybe I can make the next
get together.

In any case, here is an update you can post if you want.

I spent my first summer after being laid off trying to figure out what I
wanted to do. I knew I didn't want to stay in the computer industry. ie. No
going to work for another computer maker or software house. I also came to
the conclusion that writing code for a living had gotten old.

In a remarkable set of coincidences that I believe can only be the hand of
God, I was offered two part time teaching jobs at Catholic schools. One
school, Infant Jesus (Nashua), is a K-6 school. The other, St Joseph
Regional (Salem), is a K-8 school. So for a year I worked with kids and
computers. K-6 at Infant Jesus where I used computer games etc to backup
real teachers as well as trying to teach some computer literacy etc. At St
Joseph I had grades 4-8. The younger grades I  tought keyboarding. The older
grades (6-8) learned word processing, spreadsheets and computer history. It
was great fun. The money was bad and there were no benefits. Well, no
benefits that paid bills. The intangable benefits were great. Hugs from
kindergarten kids can not be beat. At Infant Jesus I was the only male on
the staff. The boys loved having a man on the playground.

Over this past summer I was offered a new job. Full time, teaching computers
at Bishop Guertin High school. For more money and better benefits I had to
take it if only to take care of my family. But there are other good reasons
to be there as well. It's a great school with great kids and a dedicated,
caring and Christian staff. I'm teaching Intro To Computers (mostly
applications using Clarisworks on Macantrash computers) and Pascal
programming. Next semester I will also be teaching C programming. We are
currently using a PDP-11 running RSTS/E for the Pascal course. We hope to
replace it with PCs soon, maybe for next year.

Talk about full circle. A PDP-11 running RSTS/E was the system I used in
college 20 years ago to learn to program. 12 years ago I was in the RSTS
development group at (what was then still called) DEC.

So I'm having fun. Oh, yes, I also have a part time job working in the
computer center at Phillips Academy (Andover). You may have heard about the
recent opening in the English department there. :-) A couple of nights a
week I work helping students figure out what they've done wrong on their
computer. It too is fun.

I miss Notes but not Digital. Leaving Digital was one of the best things
that could have happened to me. But I really never intended to be away from
so many friends for so long. But money has been (and is) tight and until
someone opened a network site that was a local call Internet access was not
in the budget. Now that I have returned to Cyberspace from my sojourn in the
"real world", I hope my old friends will drop me a line and reconnect.

        Regards,
                Alfred 


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249.49I stop by every day -- now I'll have to stop in!LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO2-3/E8)Tue Sep 19 1995 15:2017
re Note 249.48 by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (from Alfred):

> Over this past summer I was offered a new job. Full time, teaching computers
> at Bishop Guertin High school. For more money and better benefits I had to
> take it if only to take care of my family. But there are other good reasons
> to be there as well. It's a great school with great kids and a dedicated,
> caring and Christian staff. I'm teaching Intro To Computers (mostly
> applications using Clarisworks on Macantrash computers) and Pascal
> programming. Next semester I will also be teaching C programming. We are
> currently using a PDP-11 running RSTS/E for the Pascal course. We hope to
> replace it with PCs soon, maybe for next year.
  
        I thought it was suspicious when I saw an announcement in my
        son's high school newsletter welcoming "Al Thompson" to the
        staff as the computer teacher!

        Bob
249.50Update on former moderatorCSC32::M_EVANSnothing's going to bring him backFri Oct 20 1995 13:3773
	E, asked me to post this with a further update.  She recieved
	mail today saying that Mike's father had died, so he didn't
	manage to get mack in time.  

	She further asks that we try to set aside bickering and send
	Mike a note.

	Meg

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SNAX::NOONAN "crumpled, tarnished soul"              57 lines  11-OCT-1995 02:55
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    Well, I heard recently from Mike V.  Sadly, his news is not all good. 
    I asked him for permission to post his mail, and he gave it, so....
    
    
From:	US2RMC::"valenza@crl.com" "Michael K. Valenza" 27-SEP-1995 02:57:02.55
To:	waylay::egrace
CC:	
Subj:	Nine months

No, the subject of my message doesn't mean that I'm pregnant.  The "nine 
months" is how long I've gone without eating red meat.  So there.

It is also the title of a movie I haven't seen yet, but I kind of want to 
see it because it was filmed in San Francisco.

But the real news is that I've joined the Sierra Club.  I was just going 
to join the Sierra Singles, which is real active in the Bay Area, and you 
don't have to join the Sierra Club to participate in the singles group, 
but I went ahead and joined anyway.  My ankle has healed enough that I 
can play volleyball, so I do that on Saturdays again.  We play in Golden 
Gate park, at the end that is near Haight Ashbury, and last weekend there 
was someone playing bongo drums at a place called "Hippie Hill" while 
women were doing hippy-style dances.  Sunday I went on a Sierra Club hike 
through the park, and we went past a place where people were doing disco 
dancing on rollerblades.  There was also someone roller blading in a 
wedding dress (someone said it was a man, but s/he was too far away to 
tell).  

Isn't San Francisco great?

My mother tells me that dad has lost a lot of weight and is talking about 
quitting the dialysis and going to a hospice to die.  I'm flying out 
there in a little over a month, so hopefully he'll last that long.

I play board and card games in a funky coffee house on Wednesday nights, 
in the Mission district of San Francisco.

I met a few women who placed personals ads over the last few weeks.  
Naturally, they weren't the least bit interested in me.  They never are.

And there you have it: the story of my life lately.  So what's new with 
you? 

Mike
    
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249.51Word from Alfred ThompsonCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Sun Oct 29 1995 14:0525
"I've started looking for a Doctoral program. I'd like something connecting
computers with education. I've a few leads but nothing solid. One program
looks sort of interesting but at $7,100/year for three years it's a bit
pricey. Especially with a son headed for college next Fall. Pray for me as I
keep looking. I'd like to teach technology for education to student teachers
some day.

Along those lines, I gave an in-service training session for grade school
teachers a couple of weeks ago. My talk was on what teachers should be doing
to take full advantage of computer labs in their schools. Both groups of
12-15 teachers recieved my talk well. In fact, a principal who I worked for
last year sat in on one talk. Afterwards she told me that I was wasted in
business and was a wonderful teacher. My feet didn't touch the ground for 24
hours. :-) I am convinced now that I did the right thing not staying in high
tech. Though I had some doubts during my first year in teaching.

Alfred 

PS: I welcome mail at all times. I miss my DEC friends."
============================================================================
        Alfred C Thompson II            These opinions are mine and may not
        Teacher, Hacker, Net Surfer     be shared by organizations lucky enough
        act2@tiac.net                   to have me as a member or employee.
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249.52CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPs. 85.10Mon Nov 27 1995 16:168
Praise God!

I had a delightful visit with Ruth Fannin last Saturday afternoon and, Lord
willing, Marc Hildebrant will join me for dessert Tuesday evening.

Shalom,
Richard

249.53Alfred Thompson's Family Home PageLGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 227-3978, TAY1)Tue Jan 02 1996 15:523
Thompson Family Home Page:

	http://www.tiac.net/users/act2/