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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

109.0. "What do modern Jews believe about Jesus?" by CSC32::J_WETHERN (John Wethern NSU/LAT @CSC/CS) Fri Nov 09 1990 19:42

Hello...

What do modern Jews believe about Jesus?  I realize there is potentially a wide
range of views, but in general (if possible) who is Jesus to them?

I realize there are Messianic (sp?) Jews, who hold to their Jewish customs but 
do accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah.  I hope these folks are in the majority
someday!

This is brought on by a discussion with a woman I know at work, who says that
"Jewish people don't believe in Jesus".  She won't go into details, as she
doesn't doesn't like getting wound-up in discussions on religion or politics.

I can guess about the above topic, but it would be interesting to hear from
some folks that know, or even came to a saving faith in Christ from a Jewish
backround.

Thanks in advance!

John
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109.1a question for Jews, not Christians, to answer perhaps?CVG::THOMPSONRationally IrrationalSat Nov 10 1990 17:455
That might be a question better answered in the Jewish Issues conference at
TAVENG::BAGELS. I suspect there is probably already a topic started on it.
TAVENG is in Israel BTW.

			Alfred
109.2CSC32::M_VALENZASun Nov 11 1990 22:1431
    Roy A. Rosenberg, in his book "A Concise Guide to Judaism", writes that
    Judaism considers it a great sin for Jews to become adherents of other
    religions.  Although he doesn't go into it, this would relate to the
    fact that many Jews do not consider the so-called "Messianic Jews" to
    be Jews at all, but rather consider them Christians, notwithstanding
    the trappings of Judaism.

    Rosenberg does point out that Judaism does consider religions such as
    Christianity and Islam to be "valid for the other nations of the
    world."  He then quotes from two historical Jewish texts regarding this
    position.  Maimonides wrote in the twelfth century:

        The teachings of the Nazarene [Jesus] and the Ishmaelite [Mohammed]
        serve the sacred purpose of preparing the way for the Messiah, who
        is sent to make the whole world perfect in the worship of God with
        one spirit; they have spread the words of the Scripture and the law
        of truth over the wide world, and regardless of the errors to which
        they may adhere, they will turn toward the full truth at the
        arrival of the Messianic time.  (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Kings,
        11:4)

    Rosenberg also quotes Jacob Emden, a German rabbinic scholar from the
    eighteenth century, on the question of Christianity.  The quote
    expresses tolerance toward Christianity, and points out the great moral
    precepts of the religion's founder.  "Would that Christians would all
    live in conformity with their precepts!", Emden says.   He also says
    that Christians do not sin in believing in a doctrine of the Trinity,
    and he concludes that "they will receive reward from God for having
    propagated a belief in Him among nations that never before heard his 
    name."