| Title: | Discussions from a Christian Perspective |
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| Moderator: | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE |
| Created: | Mon Sep 17 1990 |
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In one of the notes I skimmed through today, Collis made an allusion to Pre-millenialism. I've been meaning to start a topic on it, so here goes. Pre-millenialism is the doctrine that says that Jesus will come again and rule with his saints for a thousand years while Satan is bound, before the final conflict and the end of the world. (Revelation 20) Within Pre-millenialism there are three different views about the Rapture: pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, and post-tribulation. Post-millenialism is the doctrine that says that Jesus' second coming will be after his kingdom on earth of a thousand years. Amillenialism says that the thousand years reign is not literal. I'm oversimplifying, but this will do for this conference. Last weekend I returned to my "alma mater" for the 25th reunion of our college class, at what's sometimes called the "Evangelical capital of the U.S.," Wheaton, Illinois. (One of the better-known alumni of Wheaton College is Billy Graham. However, not all Wheaton alumni are Billy Graham clones.) Wheaton faculty sign a statement of faith. One of the tenets is Pre-millenial- ism. I note with interest that this particular doctrine's importance is being questioned. As a matter of fact, the founder of Wheaton College was an Amillenialist; his son and successor, became a Pre-millenialist. (This was all in the 19th century.) Not all Evangelicals are in fact Pre-millenialists, but a good many of them are. A special comment before I end this note. Pre-millenialism does not require the Millenium to begin on year 2000. I must say that it is tempting to think that we're only 10 years away from the Millenium. Who knows? Maybe He'll come sooner than that. --Simon
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| 73.1 | Just a note.... | SWAM3::DOTHARD_ST | PLAYTOE | Thu Oct 18 1990 22:42 | 38 |
If indeed one is a "pre-millenialist" one must conclude that the 1000
year binding of Satan has already come and gone, because we are now
close to the "final conflict and the end of the world", ref. Middle
East Conflict and Sadam Hussein.
While in the Soapbox conference, discussing another topic, a Muslim
brother stated that this was indeed the case. He pointed out the 1000
year period lasted from roughly 500 A.D. to 1500 A.D. while Europe was
in what is called the Dark Ages (Satan was bound). Africa, had a rest
from the ravages of Imperialism.
Basically, prior to 500 A.D., beginning roughly 1500 B.C. (2000 years),
history records the persecution, killing and destruction of black
civilization, by northern powers. Beginning with the destruction of
the black civilization of Caanan by the Jews, and the Hyksos
invasion of Egypt, down through to Alexander and the Arab invasion of
East Africa, Greek invasion of North Africa, ending around 500 A.D.
with the beginning of the "Dark Ages" of Europe. At which time Africa
found respite, and began to flourish and grow again (i.e. Ghana and
Songhai civilizations) up til 1500's.
And the Scripture says, "then he (Satan) must be loosed a little
season, and then the end will come." The brother pointed out the
"little season" began in the 1500's when Europe began the Slave trade
and began to ravage Africa again. The ravaging persists to this day.
And now we are nearing the end of the "little season". The end of the
"400 year period" of the slavery. Also note that in the Book of
Jeremiah (and I forget the verse now), it is written, "They will no
longer say the Lord who brought the Children out of Egypt, but the Lord
who brought the Children out of the north countries and everywhere they
had been scattered". Basically, indicating that there would be another
"Exodus" in these last times, such that would make one forget Moses and
the Children of Israel coming out of Egypt.
I thought that this was a MOST interesting perception. All the
elements are there to substantiate that view...
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| 73.2 | yeah, I heard about that ... | DELNI::MEYER | Dave Meyer | Thu Oct 18 1990 23:27 | 5 |
Not that long ago there was rampant anticipation of imminent
"rapture". More than a few moderate and liberal Christians were rather
hoping that the more conservative Christians would all get raptured and
leave us in peace, bringing US a step closer to heaven. It didn't
happen, though there were a bunch of folks praying for it. }BD
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| 73.3 | silly mood today | GOLF::BERNIER | The Organic Christian | Fri Oct 19 1990 12:48 | 7 |
re .0
Not all Wheaton grads are Billy Graham clones...
Too bad, we could use a few more like Billy :-)
Gil
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