Conference koolit::disney

    Is MKC available to UK employees and if so how? I'm going to Orlando
    in April, could I get a card in time to be of use to me?
    
    Richard Bell
    UK SWAS   

    Since I did not see a topic in this conference for the Disney Travel
    Co., I thought I'd mentioned something here.
    
    	I just picked up a brochure from the Disney Travel Co. at a local
    travel agency, and it appears that for the first time (as far as
    I know) Disney is giving travel agencies the liberty of booking
    reservations at their resort hotels (Floridian, Poly, Cont., etc...),
    as well as those in Disney Village, the Villas, and the surrounding areas. 
    The packages they are offering are just as good, if not better, than
    those offered from the MKC. I just briefly scanned the brochure,
    but the pkgs. included round trip transfers from the airport OR
    a rent-a-car, unlimited admission to the parks for the entire time of
    your stay, unlimited use of the transportation system, a few meals, OR 
    tickets to Discovery Island and/or River Country. I'll have to go back 
    and check to see if the MGM-Studio admission is included. 
        
    	But overall, it seems these packages are just as good as those
    from the Magic Kingdom Club. 
    
    	Therefore, you now know that there is yet another option, and you
    can now have the travel agent do the work for you, if you are so inclined.
    
    	Happy hunting!
    
    		John F...

rep to <<< Note 2.9 by FRIEZE::FRATTURELLI "I'd rather be at Disney World" >>>

>                    -< Packages from the Disney Travel Co. >-
>    	I just picked up a brochure from the Disney Travel Co. at a local
>    travel agency, and it appears that for the first time (as far as
>    I know) Disney is giving travel agencies the liberty of booking
>    reservations at their resort hotels (Floridian, Poly, Cont., etc...),
>    as well as those in Disney Village, the Villas, and the surrounding areas. 
>    The packages they are offering are just as good, if not better, than
>    those offered from the MKC. I just briefly scanned the brochure,

    John,
    
    The Disney Travel Co.  has been  around  for  quite  some time (I had a
    brochure from '82), and I beleive is the general public division of the
    MKC, and as far as the plans go they are priced  about  the same as the
    MKC plans.  Where it behoves you to belong to the MKC is when you don't
    purchase a plan and pay as you go to get the discounts.
    
    Claude

    Travel agents could ALWAYS book accommodations on WDW property. 
    Many wouldn't because Disney never paid commissions.  Perhaps that's
    the change.  Or maybe they are paying commission only on the packages,
    since the airlines, rental car companies, etc. will kick in some
    bucks.
    
    Most travel agents I know aren't shy about telling you what they
    make money on and what they don't.  They know you know they get
    commissions, and don't see any reason to keep it a secret.  They
    just might not tell you how much they make.  Usually it is 8-10%.

rep to < Note 2.13 by SPGOPS::CAMPBELL >

>    Can someone who has gone on the vacation plan at Disney from the
>    MKC tell me when you receive all the information about the plan
>    from them.  
    
    Within the next few weeks you should received a package from them which
    will give you some info  on  the hotels, dinners shows etc, with a form
    for reservations etc.  if memory serves me right.  Otherwise you'll get
    dumped with a lot of pamphelts various quides etc. upon arrival.
    
    
>    For instance when do you receive the Steve Birmbaum
>    guide?  I just received my confirmation slip yesterday and have
>    to mail them a deposit but nothing else came.

    You'll only  receive  the  guide  once  you  formaly  book a particular
    package, reserving the  lodging  won't do it for you since you only get
    the free guide buy purchasing a vacation package.    

    Claude    

    This should be a simple question for a Disney expert:
    
    Is there a maximum number of World Passports I can buy at any one
    time with my MKC card for the MKC price?  In other words, can
    I only buy passes for me and my family, or can I buy passes for
    friends being in the same party with us for the MKC price as well?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Vinzenz
    (16 days and counting...)
    

rep to < Note 2.16 by MUNKAD::VINZENZ "RAINBOW-100 continued" >

>                 -< How Many Passes Can I Buy On A MKC Card? >-

    Vinzenz,
    
    The MKC  doesn't care, You can make reservation for several rooms being
    ocupied by freinds/relatives as well  as buy as many World Passports at
    the TTC using your MKC discount.
    
    Hell, my Father, last  time  he  went  used  my card to buy tickets for
    himself, my Aunt, and several of his friends with no problem.
    
    Claude

    
    
    Anyone know if there is a "difference" between using the MKC card
    for rate discounts (passports) versus the discount for being a
    guest resident at one of the DISNEY hotels (Polynesian for example)
    ??
    
    Which gets the better or are they the same ?
    
    Mark
    
    

    re: .18
    
    The MKC discounts seem to be a buck or two better than the resort
    guest discount.  I don't have the current resort guest prices, but
    this has been true in the past.
    
    BTW, there are also special discounts for senior citizens and Florida
    residents.  Being neither, I don't know what they are, but a call to
    WDW information, (407) 824-4321, could tell you. 

    I understand that you can also get discount coupons from AAA.  The
    problem is they are on a first come first serve basis and are offered
    only through the Florida AAA offices.  Does anyone know how this
    compares with the MKC.

    Last year I saw a number in the back of my Disney Channel Guide. This 
    number was for a special Disney Travel Club. They sent me a brochure
    with all kinds of packages but I never got a chance to compare those
    prices with the packages offerred in the Magic Kingdom Club.
    
    HAs anyone compared the two and if so which gave the better deals?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mike_359_and_counting
    

>    HAs anyone compared the two and if so which gave the better deals?
    
    Magic Kingdom Club has better deals.
    

    Can someone tell me how long the membership card lasts for - eg, is it for 
    one trip, a month, a year, life...???
    
    Many thanks,
    
    Karen

    It's hard work following you around these notes!
    
    My Card is valid for 2 years, and there is no restriction on the 
    number of times it is used, or for what purpose.
    
    Mike B.

    
>   My Card is valid for 2 years, and there is no restriction on the 
    number of times it is used, or for what purpose.
    
  
Hi, I just discovered your notes file.  I have a MKC card which I received 
thru our PA here in ICO... it is only valid until December 1989.  I got it
in the January timeframe as we are going to DISNEYWORLD in 27 days (can't 
wait)...  I will be using this card for our 4 day passes but what are some 
of the other "benies" when you aren't staying at the WDW Resorts, discounts
in the Village are there others???  Thanks

L

    MKC cards seem to come in batches, all expiring at the same time. 
    These get distributed by employee activities, and at some point the get
    a new batch.  I suppose it depends on how "fresh" the cards are that
    your employee activities folks have.  If yours is about to expire, you
    can just request a new one.

    As for other benefits, you should have gotten a "MKC 1989 Membership
    Guide" when you picked up your card.  A summary of benefits is in note
    2.0, but new ones are added from time to time.  Watch this conference,
    or call the MKC Travel Center for more information.

    
    Just a quick comment.  I was at the Poly last week and they would
    not take the MKC card for merchandise.  They did take it at the
    Disney Village, however.  The people at the Poly (different stores)
    all said that it was only good in the Parks?  I also got quite a
    run around trying to upgrade tickets with it, I was sent to four
    places before I was taken care of, but it was worth it!  The only
    place you can get ticket with it is at the TTC's customer relations
    window!

    The MKC card is valid for 10% discount on merchandise only at the
    Disney Village Market Place with a $10.00 minimum purchase.  This offer
    excludes food items, periodicals, tobacco and alcohol products, Madame
    Alexander dolls and Lladro porcelain.

    It is also valid for a 10% discount at any of the Disney Stores around
    the country.  The MKC membership guide doesn't note any restrictions. 
    I couldn't quite convince them to give me a 10% discount on Disney
    Dollars though.  Shucks, you can't fault a guy for trying.

>      2) Do you have to send in a 1-night's deposit that is more than
>         what you will really be paying for one night?

    Sean,
    
    I believe  that  since  they  didn't  have  the  '90  prices yet, which
    probably means they  didn't  have  the  various seasons decided upon as
    well (high vs value etc.) that in the mean  time  they  are  playing it
    safe by quoting you the reqular non-discounted price for 1  night  plus
    the Fl hotel tax of 10%.  Even when they announce next years prices the
    difference will be reflected in what you owe, so I wouldn't worry about
    it  unless  of  course you don't like floating an interest free loan to
    Disney :^(.
    
    Otherwise note  that  had you made the resevation for a period that the
    pricing was know, then it would of been that price plus tax, ie, when I
    made my reservation for this past  summer  for  FW  last  April, it was
    $27.04, which broke down to the $24.33  for  campsite and tax of $2.71,
    which was the quoted price plus tax.
    
    Claude

RE: 2.39 AYNRND::REILLY

>    The lady at the MKC number said their computers aren't registering
>    the 1990 prices, but I would get it later on, with the 20% discount.  
>    Then she told me I have to send in a deposit for 1 night at $214.50,
>    which was the price in the computer (??).  
>    
>      1) Did you get this kind of information?
>      2) Do you have to send in a 1-night's deposit that is more than
>         what you will really be paying for one night?
>    
>    I just want to make sure I'm getting the right price...


When I first called for reservations in October, the new '90 prices were not
in the computer even though I had already received the '90 MKC guide.  I called
back a couple of days later and the new prices were available.  I sent them 
a deposit for $127 plus 10% tax.  

After coming back from WDW in NOV/DEC and staying at the Polynesian, I decided
to change my reservation to a garden view.  I called, changed the reservation 
and transfered the money over to the new reservation.  The garden view is about
$117/night.

>    A couple of questions...  We just made reservations at the Poly
>    Pool-view room for October.  This is at 20%, not 35% off.  Anway,
>    normal price is $195/night, you are paying 65% ($126.75) and I 
>    expect to pay 80% ($156).  

The reson you are getting 20% vs 35% is the time of year.  The 35% discount
does not begin until after Thanskgiving and if I remember right, lasts into
February sometime, with the exception of the Christmas holiday week.

Enjoy your vacation.

/Jim Pappas

    My sister and her family are going to Orlando for the New Year, 
    and wanted to stay at either the Disney Villas or Pickett Suites. 
    The MKC card says "for use by you and your family", so she rang 
    the MKC reservations number to test whether she was included. They 
    were quite happy to give the MKC discounts to her, and also told 
    her she could use it for Annual Passports and Disney Marketplace 
    discounts, even though the card 'owner' would not be in the party.
    
    How far do these 'family links' go, second and third cousins, 
    Great Grandparents etc.?
    
    Incidentally, she rang the normal CRO number first, and was quoted 
    a price. When the operator realised that the booking was for 14 
    nights, she said "Oh! I can improve on the one night price", and 
    reduced it considerably. It was something like $275 reduced to 
    $220, which is actually better than the price with MKC discount. 
    Has anyone heard of, or negotiated, discounts for longer stays, 
    and if so, is the MKC rate negotiable too?
    
    Mike_who_is_getting_ready_to_book_FW_for_the_summer_of_91

RE:  <<< Note 2.42 by WOTVAX::BATTY "The Seaweed is Always Greener..." >>>
    
>    My sister and her family are going to Orlando for the New Year, 
>    and wanted to stay at either the Disney Villas or Pickett Suites. 
    
>    Incidentally, she rang the normal CRO number first, and was quoted 
>    a price. When the operator realised that the booking was for 14 
>    nights, she said "Oh! I can improve on the one night price", and 
>    reduced it considerably. It was something like $275 reduced to 
>    $220, which is actually better than the price with MKC discount. 
>    Has anyone heard of, or negotiated, discounts for longer stays, 
>    and if so, is the MKC rate negotiable too?

    I called the CRO just now to check on this.  They emphatically told me
    that no such discount exists for any of the WDW resorts.  
    
    I didn't ask about the WDW village resorts because I didn't notice the
    first paragraph above until after I called.   Was your sister's
    reservation for the Pickett Suites?   If so, that might expalin the
    disconnect.
    
    /Jim Pappas

    Jim, 
    
    	    Yes, the reservation was for the Pickett Suites. I guess 
    the Disney Village Resorts have more latitude to 'wheel'n'deal' 
    than the real Disney Hotels. Thanks for following it up, it could 
    have been interesting to negotiate quantity discounts.
    
    Mike_who_will_have_to_book_FW_full_price_now.

I am planning
    to go to Disneyland by myself on November 29- December 2,1990, Can
    anyone tell me what airline will i take on a package deal of 3 days
    2 nights stay on Disneyland hotel in Anaheim,CA.With a round trip
    air fare from San Jose Internantional to disneyland...
                                                          always,
                                                         jericho
                                                          San Jose

    
    I got my MKC card in March 1990, and filled out the info for
    the Disney News Subscription, I haven't seen anything yet...
    It's been six months, should I have gotten something yet? Did
    anyone else fill in for this subscription around that timeframe
    receive anything? Is there anyother way to start a subscription
    to Disney News?
    
    	-Annie
    

    Thanks for the info!  Based on this I decided to call CRO to amend our
    October reservations and found out I could get a lagoon view room at
    the Poly for $40.00 less a night than we were going to pay for a room
    at the Grand Floridian without the view!  We're thrilled!  Also, they are
    sending me info on the MKC packages. They are also 30% off (depending on 
    hotel, of course) for the time we are going.   It may work out that a 
    complete package will be better for us especially since we were planning 
    to have dinner one night at Victoria and Albert's, Hoop De Doo one night
    and we like to have dinner at the Epcot restaurants.  I'll let you know what
    we decide when we get the info.

    
    Thanks for the info!  In talking to another Disney-holic here at
    Westfield, he reminded me about shareholders card--which I haven't 
    received either!  Does anybody know the procedure for getting your
    card after buying stock??  I've had the stock for about six months
    now and haven't got any other information.  Although I did just get
    the annual report (nice pictures!!), and the voting information.
    
    Any help on getting my card et al., would be welcomed!
    
    Thanks again
    
    Debbi

    Early on in this note there was mention of a Gold Magic Kingdom Club
    Card. There was no follow up note.
    
    Last week while going through my Disney Channel Magazine (with Billy
    Joel on the cover) I came across an ad for this card. Again the price
    was $45.
    
    Here are some questions...
    
         1. Has anyone sent or received on of these cards?
    
         2. Are their greater benefits to a Gold MKC Card than a regular
            (free) one that we would get at a PAC?
    
         3. Are the trinkets (magazine subscription, key tag, etc.) worth
            it?
    
    The ad indicates that a Gold card indicates you are a Disney channel
    subscriber and may therefore be given more benefits that a regular
    MKC member.
    
    I'm thinking about getting a gold card but would like to hear from
    someone who has received and made use of this gold card before I fork
    over the $45.
    
    Mike 

    I bought one, mainly because I wanted the video. I received a plastic
    tote bag similar to the ones that you get for free from a travel agent,
    one luggage tag and one key ring, all with the Magic Kingdon Club logo, 
    a video (people at work dreaming about their Disney vacation, then they
    go) with pretty good scenes of both WDW and DL, and a subscription to
    the magazine. Other than the video and the trinkets, the benefits are
    no different than the ones you get with the cardboard card from
    personnel. 
    
    It is a pretty gold card, and the membership lasts two years. I won't
    renew unless they send me another video. I am not a Disney Channel
    subscriber -- I sent in from the Disney Magazine.
    
    Linda

    Linda,
    
    Was the video worth it? Also, was the card plastic as in plastic credit
    cards?
    
    Mike

    Mike,
    
    I thought the video was worth it, mainly because I don't have a video
    camera. These are the only video pictures I have of WDW. 
    
    Yes, the card is plastic. It's gold, has a picture of Mickey in a 
    tux tipping his top hat to you, with your name, a member number, 
    member since and good thru dates. I use my card at the Disney store
    a lot, so the plastic stands up to the wear and tear better. I also
    probably have taken more in discounts than the whole thing cost me. 
    
    You're right, I forgot about the 5 Disney dollars I received. 
    
    Linda

    Hmmm....$5 in Disney Dollars, plus a video that's probably worth around
    $9.95, and a two year subscription of the Disney News (forgot what the
    cost is), plus some trinkets.
    
    May not be worth it but I like the idea of the plastic. I laminated my
    last card.
    
    Also, be kinda nice to flash it at a store or even down in Orlando and
    uninformed people wonder what it is and how you got it.
    
    I might jump at it.
    
    Mike_who_is_a_sucker_for_these_things

    
    
    Diane,
    
    I picked-up a copy a few months ago, I'll try to remember to bring it
    in on Mon. Just to let you know they only book packages now, not rooms
    alone. Send me E-mail with your address.
    
    steve

    I just received an offer in the mail trying to get me to buy a "Magic
    Kingdom Club Gold Card."
    
    For the $45 fee ($65 foreign, US funds only), you get:
    
    	o   Gold Memberhip Card (two-year expiration)
    	o   Club tote bag
    	o   Five bucks in Disney dollars
    	o   Club luggage tag
    	o   Disney Vacation Video (VHS only, my Betamax loses again)
    	o   Club Newsletter
    	o   Two-year subscription to DISNEY NEWS magazine
    	o   (all the usual stuff the cardboard cards get you)
    
    
    Those interested may send name, address, and phone number along with
    check or money order (Payable to Magic Kingdom Club Gold Card) to:
    
                         Magic Kingdom Gold Card
                              P.O. Box 3850
                          Anaheim, CA 92803-3850
    
    or may charge by phone at (714) 490-3200.  (There was a spot on the
    form for charging it to a credit card, but I assume you need the form
    to do that).
    
    Now the big question is how many of us are going to blow the $40
    (subtracting the Disney Dollars)  for a tote bag, key chain, luggage
    tag, and video?  Has anyone done this yet?  Or am I going to be the
    sucker, excuse me, PIONEER?
    
    Tom Stern

    Sorry, I think I get the original sucker designation. Mike Scopa was
    thinking about it, too. See 2.57-.61.
    
    With the gold card you do get regular mailings about MKC specials and
    rates and don't have to be dependent upon Personnel getting the latest 
    brochures. I've had the 91 brochure (mailed directly) since either late 
    December or early January (no postmark on the envelope).
    
    The gold card stand up better to frequent use at the Disney store, and 
    Mickey *is* cute in his little tux. 
    
    Linda  

    Linda,
    
    Thanks for the quick reply (I only sent this a few hours ago, when I
    took a break from studying for my next class).
    
    I searched the topic looking for the word "Gold", and didn't find one.
    
    I still don't know whether I will go for it.
    
    >>The gold card stand up better to frequent use at the Disney store, and 
    >>Mickey *is* cute in his little tux. 
    
    So am I (especially when I wear it with my Mickey Mouse suspenders or
    vest), but that's besides the point.
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Tom

    One thing I have found nice about the Gold Card is the newsletter.
    So far I have only received the Winter 1990 issue. It is about 6
    pages long on quality paper with colored pictures. In this issue is
    the calendar for the month of December 1990 for all three parks in
    WDW and for Disneyland. It shows open hours and when the Christmas
    parade was held. Knowing this, I was able to plan my trip in early
    December next year around the Christmas festivities without having
    to be in the crowd during Christmas week.
    
    Linda

    
    I was looking over the MKC brochure the other night(yes Diane I
    rememberd it) I added up the priced items the gold card included.
    
    Disney dollars                 $5.00
    
    Disney video                   $9.95
    
    Disney news                   $14.95
    
    Total                         $29.90
    
    So basicaly you're spending $15.10 for the tote, tag, and key fob. I
    don't know maybe I'll go for it. It's a cheaper 'Itis fix than booking
    a package at the Poly ;^)
    
    steve

    Rep to <<< Note 2.69 by EXIT26::SNODGRASS >>>

>    It's a cheaper 'Itis fix than booking a package at the Poly ;^)
    
    Steve
    
    That's what you say now, but after viewing the video that comes as part
    of the package,  you'll  end  up  reserving the Poly, or Contemp, or GF
    or... ;^)
    
    Claude, who doesn't have  the  gold  card  (yet)  but has a copy of the
    Video.

    Rep to <<< Note 2.71 by FDCV07::KING "Jesse's Jets!" >>>

>    I don't suppose any one has a tape I could borrow????????

    Rick,
    
    Well if  you live near Goffstown NH, I may be bribed in parting with my
    copy, but beware  this tape is my DISNEY fix, and is a copy I made from
    a fellow DECie while I was working in Salem. 
    
    Warning if you are at all squeamish don't read on!!! ;^)
    
    However this tape is  rather  dear  to  me,  and at the moment somewhat
    unreplaceable without a little work  invovled  (that  where  the  bribe
    comes in ;^)).  On this tape I have,
    
        A  copy  of  the  35th Disneyland Anniversary Special,  the  Disney
        Channel version (thanks to Len Goldberg)

        A copy of 'A Dream Called WDW' (thanks to my local Video Library)

        A copy of the Epcot video (thanks to Ruth Campbell)

        And last a copy of the '90 MKC Gold Club Video (thanks to Jim Kerns)
    
    The '90 MKC Gold Club video start's off as a take off of the now famous
    sports star What are you going to  do  now  commercials of the past few
    years.  Instead it features normal eaveryday people at  their places of
    employment who are being asked the question,
    
        'Now that you just finished a hard day at work what are  you  going
    to do now?'
    
    It then procedes to show  the  highlights  of  WDW,  Disneyland and the
    Cruise packages with enphasis on the  latest  additions  to  the parks,
    since if you are a MKC Gold  Club member, you obviously have been to my
    favorite place before and are interested in what's new in the last year
    or so since the last time you been.   If  I  remember correctly it last
    for about 20 minutes and is very good quality, and is in comparision to
    the video given out by GM when you visit the 'World of Motion' pavilion
    at Epcot and pick up the pamphlet in the transport area and  then visit
    your local GM dealer for those of you who have that on as  well (thanks
    Ruth for giving me that card as well).
    
    Gee I think it's time to pop in this tape...
    
    Claude

    RE: .-1
    
>    Wether  you have the Gold card or the
>    normal MKC cxard the  benifits for the packages are the same.  The only
>    benifit to the MKC Gold card beside the several trinkets you get, and a
>    newsletter is the prestige of having it when making purchases etc..
    
    
    When I last called the CRO and was asking about various specials for
    annual passport holders and Disney Stockholders, the reservation clerk
    told me that Gold MKC card holders are now getting the same deal as the
    Disney Stockholders.  This is generally one of the best deals going.  I
    don't have the gold card but I do have stock and an annual passport.
    
    

After 2 years, how much does it cost to renew a MKC Gold Card.
Or in order to receive same trinkets, I have to pay more $65 ?
( I'm not U.S. residence. )

Rie in Japan

After 2 years, how much does it cost to renew a MKC Gold Card ?
Or in order to receive same trinkets, I have to pay more $65 ?

Rie in Japan

    Received my gold card and trinkets this past week. The video is dated
    1991 Detective Mick.
    
    It must have been made in '90 'cause they don't show the "Honey I
    Shrunk the Kids" playground or PO. They show only an artist's rendition
    of the resort.
    
    My kids got excited when they saw "Chiefy" (streetmosphere cast member)
    in the video.
    
    CLaude's right...watching the video is dangerous...in less than 48
    hours after receiving it I was on the phone to Disney making plans to
    spend even more money down there.
    
    Mike

    I just received the Fall 1991 issue of Disney News.  Am I receiving
    this because I got an MKC card from DEC?  Is this a complimentary issue
    or a free year's subscription?
    
    Kathy
             

    Rep to <<< Note 2.83 by CUPMK::JETTE >>>

    kathy,
    
    When you  filled  out  the section of the card that must be turned into
    personel, did you  also  fill  in  the  back  side?    If  you  did you
    subscribed to the Disney  News  without  knowing it, and the bill is in
    the mail.  On the 3rd section of the card one side ifs for their record
    and  has  your  name/address/signature  if I  remember  correctly,  the
    otherside is a subcription request to Disney News.
    
    Claude

If this has been asked elsewhere, please feel free to move/redirect me...

Are MKC cards useful/applicable at Euro_Disney ?

Is there a similar tie-up with Dec and Disney in Europe, or are we
on our own out here ?


Ian 
(39 weeks, 4 days to ED)

    At the moment, Euro Disney are not offering any specials. The MKC 
    card is not accepted (It isn't valid in the London Disney Store 
    either, so maybe it's US only!), they don't offer any Stockholder 
    Specials, and they don't do an Annual Passports, so no AP 
    Specials.
    
    I'm not really surprised, they are going to have all the business 
    they can handle for the first couple of years, so there is no need 
    to give anything away yet!
    
    Regards,
    
    Mike B.

    Yesterday I received in the mail a packet of info from the Gold MKC.
    Inmcluded was the 1992 MKC Membership Guide. I thought I'd share some
    info with you here. Some of this info could possible belong in note 20
    which discusses vacation packages. I'll put some general info in here
    and try to hold off details for note 20.
    
    * * *
    
    The guide is definitely thicker than ever before and it really hypes
    the 20th Anniversary celebration.
    
    Here are some things I've noticed:
    
      - National Car Rental discounts have gone from 23% to 30%.
      - Member can now join for free ($29.95 value) membership in
        Entertainment Publications Travel America at HalfPrice. I will
        probably join. It looks real good.
      - The guide emphasizes Epcot's "Surprise in the Skies", and TMK's 
        "Surprise Celebration" and "SpectroMagic".
      - It also mentions that there are all kinds of "surprises" awaiting 
        guests including "Roger Rabbit...popping up everywhere with all
        kinds of fabulous prizes for unsuspecting guests."
      - Also hyped is MuppetVision 4D and Theater of the Stars'
        "Hollywood's Pretty Woman" (Len...could Jessica be....nawwww.
      - There are some pictures of Dixie Landings' rooms from the inside
        but only artist renditions of the outside.
      - Check out page 13 as it is the absolute best map to-date of the
        entire WDW complex. It does not show Bonnet Creek Parkway but it
        does show all the latest resorts.
    
    Now scoot over to note 20 and check out some differences in the
    packages.
    
    Mike

    re -2. I called the Euro-Disney info line and asked about MKC and they
    said that discounts would apply. I haven't tried booking yet as I've
    mislaid my card. I may just go for the commemorative passports which
    are #20 before opening for a one day pass. I've been quoted 22.50 by
    travel agents.
         
    Richard Bell

    OK, MKC Discount does NOT apply to Euro-Disney theme park entrance. I
    just ordered 4 1 day passes through the London office and they
    confirmed that.
    
    Richard
    
    BTW I'll be there on July 31st.

    Doug

>    If so could you please list the "package" prices here?

    The latest  guides  are  a  joke when it comes to listing prices on the
    plans since all they give you is a from $xxxx to $xxx for a given hotel
    based on double occupancy.   The guide doesn't list prices like it used
    to a few years back, based  on  single/double/triple  and  junior/child
    info as well as additional nights.  The latest guide is only useful for
    listing  the  package  plan that are available (which hotels), the plan
    specific etc.
    
    The best way to get price info based on the number in  your party, type
    of accomodations, plan specific is to call CRO.
    
    Claude
    
    PS  However  if someone feels like typing the various list in go ahead,
    it just that I won't.

    Has anyone actually seen the 1992 MKC guide yet? Here in CXO they have
    been saying for months that they are waiting to get them. If anyone
    actually has access to them, could you pick one up and send it to me?
    
    Thanks,
    Jack

    Yes they exist, I picked up one last Nov when I needed to get a new MKC
    card here in  NIO  and  3  weeks  latter  recieved one in the mail from
    Disney since I had  a reservation for Port Orleans since last Feb.  and
    the '92 guide wasn't out(second  one  has  since  been  loaned  out  to
    someone I forget ;^().
    
    Claude

re: 2.95 

>    Has anyone actually seen the 1992 MKC guide yet? Here in CXO they have
>    been saying for months that they are waiting to get them. If anyone
>    actually has access to them, could you pick one up and send it to me?
    
   The 1992 MKC Guides are in a rack located by personnel.  This is the
   personnel office at CX01 - just thru the double doors by the cafe.  

   I haven't seen any cards tho.  I checked with personnel last fall and was
   told that they wouldn't be getting any locally.  People have been cut so
   they don't have the time to devote to that particular activity anymore.
   Since I'm now a Disney stockholder, I have another source.  But if I wasn't
   I'd sure be pi**ed.  Good luck with getting a card.

    Rep to <<< Note 2.98 by WDWRLD::GULLIKSEN "Longing to be at WDW" >>>

>   I haven't seen any cards tho.  I checked with personnel last fall and was
>   told that they wouldn't be getting any locally.  People have been cut so
>   they don't have the time to devote to that particular activity anymore.
>   Since I'm now a Disney stockholder, I have another source.  But if I wasn't
>   I'd sure be pi**ed.  Good luck with getting a card.

    Uh folks if it's  the cards you want and they are not available locally
    to you, nothing is stoping  you from following the policy for obtaining
    one as posted in 2.31 (that's why it's  in  the  title  BTW), since the
    policy was put in place so as to not  overburden the folks at Corporate
    Personel.
    
    As  to  abtaining  a guide, if  you  were  to  say  CALL  CRO,  MAKE  a
    RESERVATION and REQUEST a MKC GUIDE, gee  I wouldn't be surpised to see
    one come with you confirmation receipt (or shortly thereafter ;^)).

    I ordered my card using the process outlined in 2.31 approximately 12
    weeks ago and since then I have heard nothing. Should I re-order or try
    and order from another source. Can anyone help?
    
    Thanks,
    Tom.
    
    (127 days to go)
    

    
    
    
    There is definitely some kind of shortage going on.  If you are going
    in the near future I would use 'other' means thatn waiting on your site
    PSA or MSO to cough up a card!  If you have the means walk-in works
    very well at different site PSA office.  I'm not sure how they feel
    about telephone calls asking for them from people at different sites.
    Shouldn't really make a difference, Personnel is the same for digital
    no matter what site they're at, right.
    
    I just managed to get one at site different than where my office is.
    Took three tries, I can definitely tell you MRO, LKG, and PKO
    don't have cards.  AKO1 was the ticket for me.....The new card I
    got expires May 1993, and they had the full packet to go with it.
    
    At one of those non-card places, I heard that the cards were in at
    MSO but they had no brochures so they were waiting on them before
    they distributed new ones to PSAs.  The story always seems to be
    that "they should be here in a week or so"..
    
    Thanks to all the people who responded with locations to check
    for the card.
    
    --Bert
    

    Re last few,
    
    I suppose if your having trouble getting the MKC card, you could always
    spend $49 (US) for the MKC Gold Card ;^)
    
    Now that I've brought up the Gold  Card,  I'm  not  sure if it's really
    worth it unless all you want is Prestige,  by  having  a  matching Gold
    Card to go with your Gold Visa, Gold MasterCard  or  whatever.  
    
    Looking at the  latest  issue of Disney News I see that the cost of the
    MKC Gold Card has gone up in price (now $49 vs $45),  Here's  what  you
    get
    
        - Special offers and prices on ticket media at WDW and DL
        - An informative Disney Newsletter
        - Two Year Subscription to Disney News
        - 10% discount at the Disney Stores Nationwide
        - Up to  30%  discount  at  National  Car  Rental  and 10% on Delta
          Airlines.    
        - Great savings on Premier Cruise Lines
        - Membership in Travel America at Half Price, which entitles you to
          a 50% savings on hotels across Northern America (minus Anaheim CA
          and Orlando Areas of course)
        - Tote Bag
        - Key Chain
        - Luggage tag
        - Disney Vacation Video

    Since I have  a  tent-trailer  and lately the only reason I would use a
    Hotel is to go  to WDW or a weekend getaway the above doesn't appeal to
    me, and I've seen the MKC Newsletter above  about  4-6  pages  of stuff
    usually found in other sources (Disney News), I already get Disney News
    BTW, and as to the trinkets, well I would prefer to get the ones I want
    when I go the WDW ;^).
    
    I think I'll stick with the Paper Card from Personel which  cost  me $0
    which gives  me  the same benefits which the exceptions mentioned above
    thank you. 
    
    Claude

    I just received that Travel America card and booklet.
    
    All the hotels which participate offer about 50% off the regular room
    prices...including suites. Some offer these discounts certain times of
    the year and certain days of the week but for the most part it looks
    like a good deal.
    
    One other catch...reservations must be made in advance.
    
    Mike
    

    re: 10% on Delta Airlines.
    
    Does this include the Delta dream packages?

    Rep to <<< Note 2.107 by TOHOKU::TAYLOR >>>

>    re: 10% on Delta Airlines.
>    Does this include the Delta dream packages?
    
    No just published Airfares.  When I was making my air reservations last
    fall, Delta wanted $410  r/t  for  Boston  Ma-Orlando  Fl, with the MKC
    Discount, USair was $380 for Manchester NH-Orlando Fl (Guess who I went
    with).
    
    Claude

    Rep to <<< Note 2.109 by TOHOKU::TAYLOR >>>

>>    re: Delta wanted $410  r/t  for  Boston  Ma-Orlando  Fl
    
>    Delta ads claim 4 days/3 nights with car and airfare for $399.

    First off  this  was  back in Sept '91, when I needed to have confirmed
    reservation for an  April vacation that by the way just happenned to be
    a School vacation week  during a very busy time of the year.  (at least
    historically  that  is,  week  after  Easter) I wasn't about to wait to
    Feb/March sales (which  haven't  materialized  yet  for  the  time  I'm
    travelling) to take the  chance  I  could  get  flights  on  the days I
    wanted.  Instead I paid  the  fare and hope the would go down and get a
    refund, but at least I know I will be travelling on the days I want.
    
    Second I'm staying on site (Port Orleans) and traveling from a Saturday
    thru  the  following weekend (Sunday).  Those  fare  quoted  above  are
    most  likely  midweek travel with lodging on International  drive.    I
    couldn't  travel  midweek since I didn't want to take  my  son  out  of
    school (schooling is more important that WDW in my opinion)  and I have
    no desire to stay on International Drive.  While I was checking midweek
    round  trip  fares  was about $325, so 3 nights lodging at one  of  the
    cheap hotels on I-Drive plus air (mid-week) divided by two people (most
    if not all  of  these type of adds are based on double occupancy) would
    be around $399 to start.
    
    In other words you get what you pay for.

    	I called the Disney Store in the Emerald Mall (Attleboro, MA) last
    week and the price that they gave me for a 5 day Passport with the MKC
    discount with Tax was $168.85.  Does this sound right?  I thought the
    price quoted in the 92 Birnbaum guide was $153 and change and that
    included tax.
    
    Tom

>>>We are now being offered Magic Kingdom Club cards for Euro-Disney in
>>>    the UK. 

Karen.. where was this ?  Through DEC ?

>>> As I already have a card for Disneyland, do I need also
>>>    to have the Euro-Disney card to take advantage of the reductions at
>>>    Euro-Disney and the Disney stores in the UK?
  
As far as I know, there's only one MKC card.... I got mine from the US, but
specifically told them it was for Europe.  It certainly doesn't  say anything 
on it about which parks you can/can't use it in.
 
   
I shall be testing this theory in August, since we're going to ED then....
farmers permitting !

Ian

Does being a member of the MKC entitle me to a discount when ordering mdse.
from the Disney catalog?  There is a space on the order form for the No.,
but it doesn't say anything about MKC members deducting anything from the 
total.

I don't have a MKC card yet...do I need one (assuming there is a discount for
MKC members) or is just knowing our chapter number sufficient?

- Lori

    I was reading in one of the conferences.  It refered to a Magicard and
    and Magic Kingdom Club Card.  Are these the same and if not should I get
    the Magicard as well as the Magic Kingdom Club Card?
    
    
    Della_who_may_ask_dumb_questions_but-wants_to_do_it_right

    Della, 
    
    No, the Magicard and the Magic Kingdom Club card are not the same. 
    The Magicard is put out by the Orlando/Orange County Convention and
    Visitors Bureau, Inc. With it you can get discounts at various 
    restaurants and other attractions in the greater Orlando area. 
    
    
    To receive this card and other Orlando tourist information call 
    1-900-89MAGIC. It costs $2.95 for a 2 minute call. 
    
    Linda

    Della,
    
    The Orlando Magiccard gives you the best deals for any Orlando
    attraction outside WDW. When I went to Sea World last Summer I layed
    out four discount cards on the counter and asked the person on the
    other side to tell me which one gave me the best deal. Without
    hesitating she pointed to the Magiccard.
    
    I think I also used it for Medieval Times.
    
    Well worth it.
    
    Also, if you plan to go to Universal Studios I would suggest you become
    a member of the Universal Studios Fan CLub. YOu can get this info down
    at Personnel.
    
    Mike

    Well I think that I will call and get the Magicard and anything else
    that I can get my hands on.
    
    How long does it take to get the Magicard?
    
    
    Della

    About 2 weeks or so.
    
    Mike

I used the 800 number to get the magi-card. It was listed in this conference
somewhere. The 900 number costs $2.95.

    Some clarification is in order regarding use of the Magic Kingdom Club
    Card.
    
    Tony Lapointe just mentioned to me that while he was at The Character
    Shop at The Village Marketplace he asked a castmember about the MKC 
    policy.
    
    Apparently the policy wavered back and forth and is still up in the air
    but Tony did say that they were honoring the card as recently as last
    week.
    
    My advice is ASK FIRST. I would especially ask if I had a gold card. My
    feeling is that the gold card may be honored after the regular card is
    no longer honored.
    
    Mike 

    I was at the Disneyland Hotel on Sunday, and tried to buy something
    with a gold MKC, and was told that they no longer accept it here,
    either

    
    
    Disney M.K.C. cards are available in the logo store in HLO.   I know
    this for a fact because I am on the Activities committee. They should
    also be in the logo store in Shrewsbury... Not sure about any other
    logo stores.
    
                 Tom

    The card arrived in the mail.
    Also included were the the passport club/shamu club, 
    wet'n Wild card, Sheraton Lakeside Inn membership card (50% off),
    maps and other brochures. A nice package. 
    
    A nice bonus. 
    
    Mike

    MKC Gold Card Members get 10% off "Broadway at the Top" and the
    "Polynesian Revue" at WDW. Does anyone know if this is just for gold
    card members?
    
    Mike

    I think all MKC members get the discount.  I believe it's listed in
    the pamphlet I got when I picked up my card.

    re: .135 MKC card at The Village Marketplace
    
    They were still honoring the MKC card at the marketplace as of
    September 11th.  The cast member knew of the rumblings about
    the discount being eliminated but carefully dodged my question
    by stating they are still accepting the card.

Ruth warned me that Disney Village still accepts the MKC card for 10%
discount (we caught up with each other there, trip report soon...)
and it saved me about $40 in Xmas shopping!

In conversation on a bus, I told another person, who was skeptical because
she had read about the demise of the discount in Disney News.  Quite a
few people on the bus had the MKC card and were surprised at this little
know secret.

Bill

    I just picked up my MKC card from personnel - exp. January 1995 - and 
    the Disney Village is excluded from the list on the back (perhaps
    someone already mentioned it, but I don't have time to read "back
    notes;" it used to be listed there).  Most likely, by the time I go 
    next summer, they won't be accepting them any more!  I can always try, 
    though.  ;-)
    
    
    Susan

    Well all my gold card says is
    
    "Good year round at Disneyland Resort, Walt Disney World Resort, Tokyo
     Disneyland and Euro disney Resort."
    
    Nothing about the Shopping Village...this is a new card...got it in 
    August.
    
    Mike

    
    ...a brief update on the MKC discount situation...
    
    {I returned from WDW last Saturday...a much-needed, wonderful vacation!}
    
    Just about THE only disappointment was the disclosure by cast personnel
    that, with the exception of ticket prices at WDW, the only place the MKC
    card produces a discount is at offsite Disney Stores (local malls, etc).
    There is no longer a discount provided when purchasing anything else
    anywhere at WDW.
    
    This was revealed in The Character Store at the Village Marketplace. 
    The cast member indicated that this policy changed during October '93.
    
    
    
    

    so the Disney Village shopping area in WDW will no longer give the 10%
    discount ??   That is good to know, we use to hold off buying certain
    things in the parks to wait and go to the village to buy them with
    the card. Now we will probably skip the village store shopping trip.
    

    ...we had the same idea in mind...waiting until the last day to blow
    the "left-over" cash at The Character Store.  Still an OK strategy to
    prevent hauling trinkets around the parks...but you do not have to be
    as selective about where to shop.  They *all* will take your money now!
    
    

    Of course wouldn't it be nice if the Character Shop prices were slashed
    by 10%. I wonder how much business will be lost due to this new policy.
    
    I know I'll be a bit more frugal when I shop there.
    
    Maybe that extra 10% will cover the EuroDisney red ink.
    
    Mike

    I think its a good thing they did drop the discount *there*.
    More of a reason to visit the Disney store in NH PRIOR to the trip.
    You save the 10% discount, AND Florida state sales tax.
    
    since we're going in Feb., the kids know the major portion of their
    Christmas gifts are admission tickets.  We wrap them up, along with
    shirts,sweats, hats, so when they step off the buss, they look like
    they've been there for weeks.
    works for us.  but of course, the wife will still have to shop at the
    village>! ;-(
    
    ed
    

    There are some new benefits for 1994 MKC members. Here are a few:
    
     - MKC members can receive 10-30% discounts on select WDW Resort hotel
       nightly rates.
    
     - Starting in 1994 PO, DL, and the CBR are also included for MKC
       discounts. You can get 10% off regular club saver dates between
       14-Aug-1994 and 27-Aug-1994. Also, you can now get 10% off the value
       club saver rates from 28-Aug-1994 to 19-Dec-1994 and from 2-Jan-1995
       to 11-Feb-1995. 
    
     - The Magic Kingdom Club has recognized the opening of the Wilderness 
       Lodge and All-Star Resorts for next Summer. The Wilderness Lodge
       will have 729 rooms. The All-Star Resorts will have (gulp) 3840
       rooms (three-story buildings). Four-Day packages for the Wilderness
       Lodge start at about $500 per person to $800 per person depending 
       upon the package you get. I did not see any prices for the All-Star
       Resorts. The 1994 MKC Membership Guide does show pictures of rooms
       from these two new resorts. The WL room looks comfy although it
       doesn't appear to be that much bigger from say a room at the CBR.
       The All-Star Resort room looks long and narrow...real simple.
    
     - Also mentioned is "Mickey's Fountain Spectacular" (mentioned
       elsewhere in the conference) and "The Magical World of Barbie" stage
       show.
    
     - MKC members can save $5 on tickets to the B&TB Broadway Musical
       opening up in NY City at the Palace Theater on 9-MAR-1994. Tix range
       from $20 to $65.
    
     - Also...."There is no Club discount in shops at the Disney Theme
       Parks, Resorts, or the Disney Village Marketplace at Walt Disney
       World."
    
     The new phone number for The Magic Kingdom Club is (714) 520-2500.
    
    Mike 

    The special offer mentioned in the last note runs from January 1
    through February 12, 1994 and includes:
       
          - 3 nights at CBR, PO, DL, CR, Poly, DVC, DVR, and Y&BC.
    
          - 4-day BOG pass
    
    Rates for CBR, PO, and DL start at $259/person (based on adult double
    occupancy).
    
    Rates for Disney's Village Resort Club Suites and Disney's Fort
    Wilderness Resort Homes start at $289/person. Other Resort hotels are
    higher.
    
    For more information call and ask for thr Special Gold Card Offer at
    (800) 446-5365.
    
    
    Note: Prices are subject to change and availability of offer is
    limited.
    
    Mike

    Magic Kingdom Club Gold Card Members are now entitled to a 15% discount
    on select lunch and dinner shows at DisneyLand's dinner show
    extravaganza, Aladdin's Oasis.
    
    Reservations are made at the Reservation Center at the exit of "Great
    Moments with Mr. Lincoln" or at Aladdin's Oasis during regular
    operating hours.
    
    Mike
    

    In Livewire today there is an announcement about discontinuing
    employee discounts at museums, movies, etc. Specifically listed
    as ending is the Disney discount (MKC). The memo said that discount
    requests for all programs would be accepted until tomorrow, June 17. 
    
    Linda 

    
    boy that sucks....my current MKC card expires Jan 1995 and my already
    booked trip is for MAY 1995.  Guess I'll just leave it as is and act
    all suprised that my MKC card is expired, when I get there (IF they
    even ask for it).  I'll also have to buy my 5 day passes before
    the end of January so as to get the MKC price.
    
    Is the Disney Gold Card the only other way to belong to MKC ?
    
    To think it has come to this, the one last decent benefit.  guess
    they'll be too busy ushering out the next round of 20k firees to
    hand out MKC packets.

    As far as I know, the Gold Card is the only other way to be a
    member of MKC. I personally find it worth the membership fee, since
    I save more than that on purchases at the Disney store each year. 
    
    Linda

    I thought folks might be interested in this - apparently, Digital
    will no longer be handling MKC cards - However, I went down late
    yesterday afternoon, and obtained one.  So, if you need one, get it now
    while supplies last ......
    
    Val
    
     From LIVEWIRE >>>>>>>
    
                  Discount ticket program ends June 30
   
         Digital's Human Resource Organization has decided to end the 
   Employee Activities discount ticket program effective June 30.  
         The decision was made after careful review of the allocation of 
   its resources in light of the company's challenge to achieve 
   profitability.
         Ticket requests received after June 17 will be returned to the 
   sender.  All requests received up to June 17 will be filled on a 
   first-come, first-served basis.
         This decision affects all of Employee Activities' discount 
   programs, including theater and museum tickets, the Disney amusement 
   parks, Busch Gardens and related discount cards, or similar special 
   programs and offerings.



                       FOR DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY
 
    
                          

    What is a "gold card"?  what are the benefits?? , etc
    
    thanks,
    kathi

    
    The "Gold Card" from what I have read is a normal "GOLD" credit card
    issued by Disney. At $49.00 for a 2 year ownership which includes a
    a subscription to the Disney Magazine. There are also some other
    benfits like a reduced rate on Disney Resort Hotels "Off-Season".
    
    I'm not sure what the interest rate is on purchases.
    
    Jeff

>                      <<< Note 2.183 by CACHE::LACROIX >>>
>                                 -< Gold Card >-
>
>    
>    The "Gold Card" from what I have read is a normal "GOLD" credit card
>    issued by Disney. At $49.00 for a 2 year ownership which includes a
>    a subscription to the Disney Magazine. There are also some other
>    benfits like a reduced rate on Disney Resort Hotels "Off-Season".
>    
>    I'm not sure what the interest rate is on purchases.
>    
>    Jeff

The Gold Card is not a credit card it identifies people who are willing to
shell out $49 every two years for 10, 20, 30% discounts on Disney stuff. The
percentage depends on the stuff. You also get a subscription to a magazine. It
was called the Disney News but they just changed the format and name and I
can't remember it off the top of my head. The new one is much better than the
old one.

I've been a member of the Magic Kindom Club about three years. If you spend any
real money at the Disney Store or are planning a trip to one of the theme parks
it's worth it.

geoff

I'll have to look again, but in the latest Disney Magazine which I received
last Friday, the one with the TZTT on the front, it was advertizing the
GOLD MKC card for $69 for 2 years?

peter

    Also, if you own any Disney stock, the 2 year Gold MKC membership is 
    cheaper than the standard $49, but I don't remember what the stockholder's 
    price was, sorry.  It also allows you to use an 800 number for reservations.
    

>                       <<< Note 2.185 by GEMGRP::KARAM >>>
>                     -< MKC Gold Card - $69 for 2 years? >-
>
>
>I'll have to look again, but in the latest Disney Magazine which I received
>last Friday, the one with the TZTT on the front, it was advertizing the
>GOLD MKC card for $69 for 2 years?
>
>peter

I'm remembering off the top of my head. To join originally it was $49 and
I believe my last renewal was also $49. I could be wrong.

Isn't the new Disney Magazine much better?


geoff

    Information from the 1994 MKC Membrship Guide:
    
    Magic Kingdom Club Gold Card 
        Cost: $59 for two years' membership (Foreign orders $79 U.S. funds
              only. Benefits begin upon receipt of Membership Card and Kit)
        Benefits: All benefits of MKC PLUS      
             -Personalized, embossed gold plastic Membership Card
             -An informative Disney newsletter
             -A two-year subscription to Disney News magazine (value
              $15.95) Existing subscriptions will be extended an
              additional two years.
             -An exculsive Membership Kit for Gold Card members only, 
              which includes a Club tote bag, luggage tag, and exciting
              Disney vacation video
             -One year membership in Travel America at HalfPrice  
             -Exclusive toll-free use of the MKC Travel Centers
    
    
    
    For membership, call 1-800-933-6664 or write
                    
                       Magic Kingdom Club Gold Card
                       P.O. Box 3850
                       Anaheim, CA 92803-3850
    
    I just renewed for $49 for two years. 
    
    Linda
    
     

    Does the "gold card" give me a discount at any of the disney resort
    hotels??
    
    kathi

    Yes, you get the MKC rates for hotels. A new development this year:
    With the opening of the All-Star Resorts, there is now a (small) 
    discount on CBR, PO, and DL resorts for MKC members. 
    
    You also receive, by mail, the annual brochure outlining membership 
    benefits, plus a reminder when renewal is due. 
    
    Linda

    re: .188
    To get more detailed information about the savings, call 714-520-2500
    and follow the instructions (dial 3). A tape will tell you all the
    facts.
    After I heard that it will take 4-6 weeks for delivery, and after I
    heard that I will get a generous discount of 2$ for a One-Day Pass and
    some amazing 10% discount in Disney stores (but only when they are NOT
    located in or around Disney world), I decided that I will use the 59$
    for a nice dinner in Orlando... 
    I mean getting the 2$ discount is nice when it's for free (as it was
    with MKC), but when you have to pay for it first, it becomes a question
    for the calculator.
    Btw, if you're interested in vacation packages to Disney, check VTX
    TRAVEL (8)
                       best
                       Norbert

    When calculating the ROI, you need to also include the discounts
    that you get off the lodging.  For instance, we are getting 30%
    off the Fort Wilderness Trailers (which for 12 nights more than
    pays for our gold card).

    We had never tried using the MKC for lodging because they didn't offer
    any discounts on what I used to call the "Three Cheapies" (PO, DL,
    CBR). Yesterday, just for the heck of it, I called MKC and asked about
    a rate for November 12-19 for the Beach Club, king-sized bed room. It
    seems the regular rate for this room is $240/night plus 10% tax, or
    $264/night. MKC discounted rate is $168/night plus 10% tax or
    $184.80/night! This is a savings of $554.40 for the week!  
    
    If I had done nothing else for the two-year term of the Gold Card this
    would have made the investment more than worth it. 
    
    Linda

    Does anyone have any advice for a first time Disney Gold Card user?
    
    This is the situation.  
    
    I'm getting married at the Poly on August 16, 1995 on Sunset Pointe. 
    Some family and friends are coming down and I was hoping to get a
    vacation/room discount for them using the Gold Card.  I thought I saw a
    note somewhere in this conference about using the card for family and
    friends.  Now that I'm looking for it, I can't find it!  The material I
    received (yesterday) specifies spouse and immediate family use only.
    
    My plan was to reserve rooms using my card and then having each person
    pay using their own credit card.  Will this work or do "they" need to
    see the actual Gold Card?
    
    Any help in using the card to its fullest would be appreciated!

I have just a regular MKC card (not gold) and when I was making reservations
a couple of months back, they said I could make up to 3 reservations on my
card as long as they were all for the same dates.  I think they had to be
at the same resort as well, but I'm not sure about that.  You could probably
get the whole story by calling the MKC Travel Center.

					Tracy

    Not sure if you can do what you want to do unless you tell the Resort
    to bill all the rooms to you. I think the only way you can take
    advantage of the MKC discounts as far as using it for family and
    friends is to charge everything to you and have them reimburse you.
    
    This would mean making all reservations under your name.
    
    Actually the card pays for itself so why not suggest to family and
    friends to get their own?
    
    Mike

    I would like to be a member of the Club and recieve the card. I am from
    Holland; I used to have a card but it isn't valid anymore.
    Can somebody inform me how to get a new one?
    
    thanks
    
    marianne
     

I am going down to WDW Jan 11.  I was going to stay at the Hyatt Lakeside
in Kissemmee.  I was told the regular rates were $130 but if I have a Magic 
Kingdom card they would be $45.00.
I figured there would be no problem.

Now I cant seem to find where to get a card.  Someone said we have 
discontinued the program.

Can anyone help me out here as to where or if it is possible to get one?

Any other suggestions if I cant?

thanks in advance 

MikeR

    
    
    It's the Sheraton Lakeside.  Got my hotels mixed up.  
    They said as long as I have the "white Magic Kingdom Club card" then
    Im all set.
    
    I did manage to find one up here in Merrimack so Im ready.
    Next wednesday Im on my way.
    
    thanks for the help
    
    MikeR
    

    The 1995 Magic Kingdom Club Membership Guide is out.
    
    Here are some new/changed benefits:
    
        - 10% discount on Disney Village Marketplace merchandise with a $10
          minimum purchase.
    
        - 10% discount on Theme Park dining. Here are the places that are
          covered:
    
          TMK                    MGM                    EPCOT
          CB at King Stephan's   Aladdin Breakfast      Ariel's Breakfast
          Crystal Palace**       Brown Derby**          Garden Grill*
          Liberty Tree Tavern**  Mama Melrose's**       Akershus**
          Tony's**               Prime Time Cafe*       Biergarten*
                                                        Coral Reef*
          *  Lunch only 
          ** Lunch and Dinner
    
        - 10% at the Poly Luaus (both of them). DOn't know if this is new.
    
        - They are also saying you can save 10-30% off WDW Resort hotels
          INCLUDING PO, CBR, AND DL DURING THE SUMMER! Those three
          resorts are now called "Moderate Resorts."  Hmmm, 20% off if you 
          go between 27-Aug and 20-Dec.
    
        - The other resorts are called "Premium Resorts" and it looks like 
          if you go between 30-July and 20-Dec you can get 30% off. 
        
    
        - There are three vacation plans: Deluxe, Classic, and Food 'N'
          Fun. The price of each plan is based on where you stay. 
          They all start at 3-nights/4-days. You need the Guide to check
          out all the options.
    
    Mike

    re:.213
    
    I've been a MKC club person for a while and don't remember getting a
    guide.  Since I'm planning another trip and approach this from about
    every possible angle...this time I sent in my MKC Gold Card that came
    with my Disney stock information.  Cost me for the 2 yr membership, but
    I got a whole bunch of neat stuff!  Anyways I finally got a MKC guide.
    
    Although previously mentioned, the details of the hotel discount are:
    
    Premium Resorts (Contemp.,Poly, FW, WL, Y&B, DVill., Vaca Club)
    
    10% off 	Feb 12 - Jul 29, 1995
    		Dec 21 - 31
    
    30% off	Jan 1- Feb 11, 1995
    		Jul 30 - Dec 20
    		Jan 1 - Feb 10 , 1996
    
    Moderate Resorts ( PO, CBR, DL)
    
    10% off 	Feb 12 - Aug 26, 1995
    
    20% off	Jan 1 - Feb 11, 1995
    		Aug 27 - Dec 20, 1995
    		Jan 1 - Feb 10, 1996
    
    
    
    

    Hi Jay,
    
    GF is explicitly called out along with All-star as being exlcuded...
    
    -Jay
    
    PS: We all know that there are other discounts available...I think
    these depending on the exact timing of the stay.  I think these are the
    only ones that they will commit to for a year.
    

Another change with MKC this year...  Food 'n Fun does not need to be
booked for all days of your stay.  It can be done for any number of
contiguous days, but I think there's a minumum.  Could be the best of both
worlds to book partial and use those days for the good restuarants and
some boating, and conserve your money on the other days!

Bill A.

    After reading 2.210, I called Salem NH (NIO) today to obtain a MKC card.  
    I am pleased to report they continue to have inventory of MKC cards.  
    H.R. has turned over responsibility to NIO Employee Activities, who
    distributes the cards at their store hours in the NIO Cafeteria:
    
    HOURS: Tues and Thurs 12:00-12:30
                   Friday 11:30-12:30
    
    (NIO is extremely convenient, just off Rt 93, Exit 2.  DEC's driveway
    is just to the left at the intersection after you get off the ramp.
    Go around to the far side of the bldg to employee entrance, right near
    the Caf.)
    
    You may pick a MKC card up for another DEC employee, but come prepared 
    with that  person's DEC badge, home address, incl. zip and phone, so they 
    can fill the card out properly for use at WDW by the proper visitor.
    
    They could not be more cheerful or friendly, despite the many calls.
    If you have any questions, you can contact the following people at
    (DTN 285): 
    EAC Chairman Merianne McDonald 2541
    		 Pat Romano        2303
                 Kurt Ketchie      3114
    
    Regards,
    Heidi

    For employees in the Greater Maynard Area, Hudson (HLO) may be a bit
    more convenient.  
    
    You may obtain an MKC card either by visiting our Logo Store on 
    Wednesdays 12-1, Thursdays 12-1 or Fridays 7:30-8:30 am, 12-1 & 
    3:30-4:30 pm or by calling me directly @225-6644.  I am the Chairperson
    for the Hudson Activities & Recreation Team (H.A.R.T.).
    
    Carol
    
    
    
    

    Does anyone know of a contact for MKC passes in ZKO?

>    Does anyone know of a contact for MKC passes in ZKO?

There isn't one at the moment, although Jack Delbalso has offered to look
into the situation (see note 402 of the WECARE::ZKO_SUGGESTION_BOX notes file).

I'm at ZKO and I got a MKC card from Donna Jean in MKO a few weeks ago (see
2.211 for info on how to contact her).

--Nina

    Here's an update on the MKC Gold Card benefits:
    
        o 10% discount at The Disney Store and Disney Catalog.
        o 10% discount at The Walt Disney Gallery in California.
        o 20-30% savings on Fall room rates at WDW.
        o 20% discount at Space Center Houston (until 31-Aug-1995).
        o 10% discount on AAA memberships and renewals.
    
    Some of these benefits are available through the regular MKC cards.
    
    Mike

    I called Carol Gentry in HLO (Hudson, MA) for a Digital MKC package. It
    just arrived today, two days after placing the call.
    
    Thanks Carol!!

    
    Does the MKC card apply to Disney stores in Canada? Can Canadians
    employees get an MKC card from the US location?
    
    				Cheers,
    
    				Randy

    I'd guess that the MKC is honored in the Disney Stores worldwide.
    
    Dunno about getting the MKC card from a US location although I can't
    see why not.
    
    Mike

    Randy, 
    
    If you want to get a MKC card call Olga Givelas in TRO office 
    DTN-631-3463.
    
    Regards,
    M-C

    
    I just wanted to thank Donna Jean for getting back to me *so* quickly
    with my new Magic Kingdom Club card...  It is MOST appreciated, and
    will be put to good use in November!
    
    Thanks, again...
    
    -raquel
    

Has anyone ever gotten the golf discount pass through the MKC?  It sounds like
quite a deal, where you use it just once and it pays for itself.

Elaine

I received my 1996 Magic Kingdom Club Membership guide in the mail
last night. (I belong to the Gold membership, but the guide appears 
to be for all MKC types.)

Phone: (407) 824-2600 or your travel agent.
       Hours 8am-10pm M-F, 9am-6pm Sa and Su (Eastern Time)
       You must have your chapter # when you call.

I have typed in everything for WDW.  I have not included the plans
and information for Disneyland or California Vacations.

Club Benefits at WDW:
1. Discounts on admission media
2. Hotel discounts of 10%, 20%, or 30% (some changes! see below)
3. Vacation Plans
4. 10% discount on Village Resort Hotels, Swan, and Dolphin (not 
   applicable to vacation plans)
5. Reduced admission to Pleasure Island
6. 10% discount at shops in Village Marketplace, $10min. purchase.
   (Valid at Marketplace shops, Pleasure Island, and the crossroads
    Character connection.  No other places.)
7. 10% discount on golf, May to December.
8. Reduced admission to all three water parks.
9. 10% discount on select dining (see below.)
10. $10 discount on Walk around the World purchases.
11. Special offer of 10% off the Disney Institute's Deluxe Package for the
    inaugural year.

Other benefits:
1. 10% discount at Disney Stores and the Disney Catalog
2. Reduced prices and other benefits at Tokyo Disneyland Disneyland Paris.
3. 10% and 25% seasonal discounts on accomodations at Disney's Vero Beach
   Resort and Hilton Head Resort.
4. Up to 15% discount on Premier Cruise LInes.
5. Save up to 30% off published rates with National Car Rental/Interrent
6. 10% discount on AAA memberships and renewals
7. Free membership in Entertainment's Travel America Halfprice (write for kit)
8. Club vacation packages in San Diego and California
9. Special offer (coming in the future) from Disney Cruise Line

Other Stuff:
1. Multi-Day pass structure is show to be the same as this past year
   (5 day World-Hopper, 4 Day Park-Hopper, 4 day value pass, Annual Passport)
2. They mention the online areas of AOL and the Worl-Wide Web

Hotel Tiers
1. Value Resorts: All-Star Sports, Music
2. Moderate Resorts: Port Orleans, Caribbean Beach Resort, Dixie Landings
3. Home Away From Home Resorts: Vacation Club, Villas at Disney Institute,
                    Boardwalk Villas, Fort Wilderness Homes & Campground
4. Deluxe Resorts: Contemporary, Polynesian, Boardwalk Inn, 
                Yacht & Beach Clubs, Wilderness Lodge.
5. Grand Floridian: No Discounts

Hotel Discounts
                        1/1-2/10   2/11-3/30  4/14-8/17   8/18-12/18
1. Value Resorts 	10%                               10%
2. Moderate Resorts	20%       10%         10%         20%

                        1/1-2/10  2/11-3/30   4/14-7/4    7/5-12/18
3. Home...Home Resorts  30%       10%         10%         30%
4. Deluxe Resorts       30%       10%         10%         30%

   Note blackout periods of 4/1-4/13, 12/19-13/31
   Note new 20% discount level at moderate resorts
   Note longer 30% discount time at Home... and Deluxe from 7/5-12/18!

Vacation Plans

1. Deluxe Plan:  Nightly accomodations; unlimited admission to theme parks,
   water parks, discovery island and pleasure island; Unlimited use of 
   recreation activities and facilities (some restrictions); Breakfast,
   lunch and dinner each day including tax and gratuity at a wide variety
   of restaurants (no list supplied); Mickey 'n You photo session;
   A copy of the Birnbaum Guide Book.

2. Classic Plan: Nightly accomodations; unlimited admission to theme parks,
   water parks, discovery island and pleasure island; Hourly use of 
   selected recreation activities at resort hotels; Choice of one of:
	- 1/2 hour use of watersprite canopy or pontoon boat
	- Planet Hollywood T-Shirt
	- Quick adn Casual lunch or dinner (no details given)
	- Disney Character Breakfast
	- Mickey 'n You Photo Session
	- Gardens of the World or Hidden Treasures tour at EPCOT
	- Nine holes of golf at Oak Trails Course
	- A copy of the Birnbaum Guide Book

3. Food 'n Fun Plan (Word for Word, read it to the CRO if you have to!)
  "By adding this option to your vacation plan, you can enjoy two meals
   a day and the World's recration for one price...You can book as few as
   two days adn use your Food 'N Fun meal options anytime during your plan
   dates."

   Per person rates:  Adult $58 per day   Child (age 3-9) $21 per day
   Two night minimum must be purchased by each member of your party

   Available with Disney's Classic Plan, Sunshine Getaway, Fall Fantasy,
   Jolly Holidays Plans and nightly Resort accomodations (two night
   minimum).  Includes per person:
     - Two meals each day at over 50 select WDW restaurants including tax
       and gratuity (no list of restaurants supplied)
     - Hourly use of selected recreational activities at resort hotels
     - Food 'N Fun Plan privileges for any length of stay at a Disney 
       Resort Hotel (What does THAT mean?)
    (list of exclusions and disclaimers follows...)

4. Under the hotel listings for the Grand Floridian and the Yacht & Beach
   Club, in small print, it adds: "Ask about the best Disney has to offer -
   the Super Deluxe Grand Plan Upgrade.  3-night plans start at $1,091
   per adult based on two adults in one room."


Resort Hotel Plan Rates
   All are 3 night/4 day plans.
   Classic Plan Juniors (age 10-17) add $161, Child (age 3-9) add $130.
   Deluxe Plan Juniors add $431, Child add $246.
   Prices below are per adult, based on two adults in one room.
--------------------------------------------------
All-Star Resorts 
			1/1-2/10	2/11-8/17
			8/18-12/18		
    Classic Plan	$264-279	$276-292

--------------------------------------------------
Caribbean Beach Resort, Port Orleans, and Dixie Landings
			1/1-2/10	2/11-3/30
			8/18-12/18	4/14-8/17
    Classic Plan	$287-326	$309-354
--------------------------------------------------
			1/1-2/10	2/11-3/30
			7/5-12/18	4/14-7/4
Vacation Club 
    Classic Plan	$388-1070	$453-1330
    Deluxe Plan		$676-1358	$741-1618
Villas at Disney Institute
    Classic Plan	$388-$627	$453-$760
    Deluxe Plan		$676-915	$741-1049
Fort Wilderness Homes
    Classic Plan	$376-412	$438-483
    Deluxe Plan		$665-700	$726-771
--------------------------------------------------
			7/5-12/18	7/1-7/4
Boardwalk Villas
    Classic Plan	$381-586	$464-586
    Deluxe Plan		$670-874	$753-996
Boardwalk Inn
    Classic Plan	$397-768	$485-768
    Deluxe Plan		$685-1057	$773-1057
--------------------------------------------------
			1/1-2/10	2/11-3/30
			7/5-12/18	4/14-7/4
Comtemporary Resort
    Classic Plan	$388-499	$676-787
    Deluxe Plan		$453-595	$741-884
Polynesian Resort
    Classic Plan	$394-730	$682-1019
    Deluxe Plan		$460-730	$749-1019
Yacht & Beach Club Resorts
    Classic Plan	$423-768	$711-1056
    Deluxe Plan		$498-768	$786-1056
Wilderness Lodge
    Classic Plan	$346-499	$634-787
    Deluxe Plan		$399-595	$687-884
--------------------------------------------------
Grand Floridian		1/1-12/18
    Classic Plan	$602-997
    Deluxe Plan		$890-1265

--------------------------------------------------
Fort Wilderness Campground
			1/1-2/10	2/11-3/30
			7/5-12/18	4/14-7/4
    Classic Plan	$201-228	$213-248
--------------------------------------------------
Sunshine Getaway  Valid 1/1-2/13

Includes 3 nights accomodations, Breakfast Daily
at a wide variety of restaurants (including character
breakfasts), coupon book with savings of over $500
on dining, recreation, and merchandise.
1/1-1/31
From $129  Sunday - Thursday arrivals
From $149  Friday - Saturday arrivals

2/1-2/13  From $149
(No other information.  I imagine it's based on
hotels with low occupancy.  I would guess no
admission is included.)
--------------------------------------------------
Fall Fantasy  Valid 8/25-11/18  From $149

Package details same as Sunshine Getaway.
--------------------------------------------------
Jolly Holidays   Valid 11/24-12/19  From $169

Includes 3 nights at a selected resort, and all you
can eat holiday feast at the Dinner Show Spectacular.
--------------------------------------------------
Dolphin/Swan Splendor

3 nights, 4 days admission to theme parks, pleasure
island, and river country, two dinners.
1/1-2/10 and 4/21-12/18		$594-698
2/11-4/20			$646-760
--------------------------------------------------
Village Holiday

3 nights at Courtyard by Marriott, Buena Vista
Palace, Hotel Royal Plaza, Travelodge, Doubletree
Guest Suites or Grosvenor Resort; 4 days admission
to theme parks, pleasure island and river country;
One dinner.
1/1-2/10, 4/21-6/8, 8/18-12/18	$291-633
2/11-4/20, 6/9-8/17		$316-774
-
-------------------------------------------------

All WDW Resort plans require 48 hour advance booking.
Dolphin/Swan and Village Holiday plans require 14
days advance booking.

48 hour cancellation for refund at WDW Resorts,
5 days at Dolphin/Swan and Village Resorts.

    Nice job Bill.
    
    I want to add that by presenting your MKC card you can save 10% at the
    following dining locations:
    
    TMK                                MGM
    
    Crystal Palace - Br, L, & D        Soundstage Restaurant Character Br
    Liberty Tree Tavern - L & D        Hollywood Brown Derby - L & D
    Plaza Restaurant - L & D           Mama Melrose's - L & D (Seasonal)
    Tony's Town Square Cafe - L & D    50's Prime Time Cafe - Dinner only
    
                                 EPCOT
    
                     Garden Grill Restaurant - Character Lunch only
                     Restaurant Akershus  - L & D
                     Biergarten - Lunch only
                     Coral Reef Restaurant - Lunch only

>   Is it possible to get MKC cards over here in the UK ?? and if so who
>   etc...

I got my card from Scott Marshall (IOSG::MARSHALL). All I had to do was send
him a mail with the name that I want to appear on the card and the Internal 
Mail Stop. The card arrived a few days later.

- Ravi Parmar

There used to be someone in Maynard who gave out the MKC cards.  
That person is apparently no longer at Digital.  Deaun Twogood 
(@MSO) signed up with Disney as the replacement.  If you'd like a 
card, please send either Deaun or I a mail message with the 
following info:

	Name 
	Home Address (including zip code)
	Mail stop
	Badge number

Maryellen

     This is from the EAC Newsletter from MKO:
    
     To receive a Disney Magic Kingdom Card send an electronic mail message
     to SEIC::EAC_DISNEY. Your request MUST contain your DTN, mailstop and
     home address. Your request will NOT be filled without this information.
     Unless specified otherwise, the Disney Magic Kingdom Card, Brochure,
     and Rate Sheet will be sent via interoffice mail.
    
     Since this service is provided on a volunteer basis, requests will be
     filled as soon as time permits.
    
     Phone orders will not be accepted.
    
     EAC of Merrimack thanks you for your cooperation.
    
     Disney Magic Kingdom Club Contact
     Matt Tancreti DTN: 264-4717
    
    
    
    

    Here's a first for me. I made reservations a couple weeks ago. When my
    package arrived from WDW a new MKC card was included. My reservation is
    for August and my present card expires July. Do they Know these
    things??
    
    I thought it was convienient.
    
    John 

    I also received a new MKC card.  In fact, since I have two reservations
    for August, I received two cards.  I do not believe it was because of
    the date, since my original card does not expire till 1998.  Comparing
    the card and the letters included with the card, I believe it has 
    a lot to do with specifying exactly where the card is good and where it
    is not.  Specifically, it calls out that you cannot use the card in the
    theme parks and in any of the hotel gift shops for the 10% discount.
    
      

>    for August, I received two cards.  I do not believe it was because of
>    the date, since my original card does not expire till 1998.  Comparing
>    the card and the letters included with the card, I believe it has 
>    a lot to do with specifying exactly where the card is good and where it
>    is not.  Specifically, it calls out that you cannot use the card in the
>    theme parks and in any of the hotel gift shops for the 10% discount.

I, too, recently received a new MKC card (which expires in 1998), just a week 
or so after obtaining a new one from Donna Jean at MKO.  I suppose it was
because I'd just made a reservation through the MKC Travel Center.
The new card that the MKC sent me directly came with a letter explaining that 
this new card contained updated information about exactly where you can use the 
card (as mentioned above) and that I should get rid of my previous card and use 
this one until next year (or something like that).  I compared the back of the 
card sent by the MKC with the one I'd just gotten from Digital, and they are the 
same, so I'm keeping the Digital-issued one because it has the specific Digital 
chapter information; the MKC-issued one had some kind of generic chapter info.  
Though it probably doesn't make that much difference, if any... (at least I hope
it doesn't! :-) )



-- Nina

    I was told that the Disney Magazine is now available at your local news
    stand.  It is no longer a perk with the Magic Kingdom Club.  Has anyone
    else heard the same?
    
    Seems like the exclusivity of the MKC is waning.
    
    Dan
    

    The Disney Magazine has taken on a new look. The Premiere issue came
    out this week....lots of interesting stuff...heavy on resorts and
    "Hunchback..."
    
    Mike

    Has anyone recentlytalked with the CRO about MKC discounts for the
    resorts? I know way back when....the CBR/PO/DL group was not eligible
    for the 10% discounts...but that was when rooms were $79/night. 
    
    With the recent rate hikes (standard room is $124/night for '97) I'm
    wondering if the MKC discount applies.
    
    Hey 10% is 10%.
    
    Mike

    Mike, yes the MKC discount applies, however it depends on availability.
    When I spoke with the CRO they couldn't give me any more info than that
    since our reservations is in Apr '97.
    
    Julie
    

    http://www.magicnet.net/~tudlp/wdw/info/mkc96.html

    I'm going to WDW next week, and I just received the Orlando Magic
    Card from the 800 number as posted in the notesfile 495.*.  Apparently
    this card is not what I thought it was, which is the Magic Kingdom
    Card.  Years ago, we used the Magic Kingdom Card available from my
    husband's company which gave some discount on WDW and Epcot tickets.
    
    Do anyone know whether these card are available from personnel, and if
    so, how to obtain them?  I just searched vtx and couldn't find any
    information about discount tickets, etc..
    
    
    Thanks for the help,
    
    Kyungae

see note 2

Personnel and VTX don't know anything about it since it's not a "Digital
thing" per se, it's a "EAC thing"

    You can get the Magic Kingdom Card by mailing "SEIC::EAC_DISNEY" with
    the following information included; Your	- DTN
    						- Mailstop
    						- Home address
    I assume it will take more than a week to get it, but have a go.
    
    

    Thank you for the pointer.  
    I just sent the request. Realizing that there isn't have much time between
    now and the next Tuesday, I'm wondering if there is a way to pick up
    the card otherwise?
    
    
    Thanks again,
    
    
    Kyungae

    I hope this isn't true but someone in r.a.d. has reported that the
    Wilderness Lodge is not giving MKC discounts for all of 1997.
    
    This person was trying to book rooms in April of 1997 and no matter
    where she tried she could not find any MKC rooms.

    That was my recent experience as well.

    
    well, at least i know now!!!  :>
    
    
    -raquel
    

Below is the text of a message I received received today from
Walt Disney World resort in Florida.  I thought it might be of 
interest to the readers of this file.


We at Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom Club want to take this
opportunity to clarify the current situation concerning Walt
Disney World Resort room and vacation plan discounts as presented
in the 1997 Club Membership Guide, plus share the availability of
the a discount at Disney's Fort Wilderness campsite at Walt
Disney World. 

Due to the overwhelming demand for Walt Disney World vacations 
during the Resort's 25th Anniversary year, we encourage you to 
book your reservations today.  The number of rooms and vacation 
plans available at the Magic Kingdom Club discount are limited 
and rooms may not be available at the discounted rates published.  
So please share this information with your Club Members.

What's more, we want you and your Club Members to know about a 
new Club discount on accommodations at Disney's Fort Wilderness 
Resort campsites -- a special offer not published in the '97 
Guide.  Club Members are entitled to a special nightly 
discount (depending on the date of their vacation) on 
accommodations at Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort campsites.

    The CRO has announced that all cancellations this year (MKC discounted
    or not) will be offerred only at regular rates. There are too many
    members and not enough discounted rooms to go around.
    
    Mike

Still has?  Have we ever had?

Note 2 (DIR/TITLE=MKC) talkes about the Magic Kingdom Card, which 
DIGITAL employees can get for free - this provides some discounts.

    I received word today that the Tiki Birds will be enjoying their last
    Summer at TMK this year. The new show that we've been hearing about
    will be put in place sometime in the Fall.
    
    Although the Tiki Birds are outdated I always found that attraction to
    be relaxing.
    
    Mike

    Yes, as we sat down in the Tiki Room, the cast member announced that it
    will close in September.  From what I've heard, the replacement will
    not be musical.  Bummer.  I loved the Enchanted Tiki Birds!  So does my
    nephew, who is 14, and all of his friends who have been to Disney World
    say it's their favorite "non thrill" attraction.
    
    
    Susan

    
    	I still think the Tiki bird attraction should be a restaurant. I
    read somewhere that this was the original design.  They should return
    to it. (The question came up when somebody noticed that the attraction
    had restrooms.  As a restaurant, the restrooms would have been
    required)
    
    Bill
    

    The scuttlebut I've come across has it being a show (like Lion King,
    Mermaid, etc?) including some new faces, er mabye I mean beaks,
    including Zazu.

From the lates issue of the DVC Vacation Magic News:

....
As of Sept 1997, the Tiki Bird attraction will no longer
exist as we know it. It will close for the Disney Imagineers
to work their magic, then reopen in the Spring of 1998
"under new management". The new show will feature the same layout 
and characters, but with a new script, music, and some
additional familiar feathered friends.

Another venue about to be transformed: Ariel's Restaurant at
Disney's Yacht Club has been closed. Watch for news about what's
coming next in Ariel's stead.