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Title:The Disneyphile's Disney File
Notice:This Conference can show you The World
Moderator:DONVAN::SCOPA.zko.dec.com::manana::eppes
Created:Thu Feb 23 1989
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:536
Total number of notes:19961

24.0. "The BEST and WORST of WDW" by INDMKT::GOLDBERG (Len Goldberg) Sat Feb 25 1989 11:15

    Let's use this note to give out our own BEST and WORST awards for
    Walt Disney World.
    
    Use the title of your reply to indicate the award you are bestowing,
    one award per reply please. Don't forget to explain your rationale for
    each award.  Duplicate awards by different noters are allowed.
    
    Some examples:
    
       BEST Meal/Money No Object
       BEST Meal/Value
       WORST Hotel Outside the Park
       WORST Attraction
       BEST Beach
       MOST OVERRATED Dinner Show
       MOST UNDERRATED Snack Food at WDW
    
    You get the idea.
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24.1BEST Meal/Value for $INDMKT::GOLDBERGLen GoldbergSat Feb 25 1989 11:3018
    Tempura Kiku - in the Mitsukoshi Restaurant- Japan, Epcot Center

    This is a fairly small tempura bar off the main lobby of the restaurant
    in Japan.  You sit on low chairs around a counter that surrounds
    the station where several chefs prepare a variety of tempura dishes.
    
    For those unfamiliar with it, tempura is small bits of meat, fish,
    or vegetables coated in a light batter, and deep fried.  It must
    be eaten very soon after it is cooked or it quickly becomes cold,
    soggy, and generally gross.
    
    This was the best tempura I have ever eaten, including my own. 
    Since you are sitting practically *in* the kitchen, it is served
    as soon as it comes out of the deep fryer.
    
    Prices are reasonable.  We went at lunch time, and complete meals
    were $7.00 - $11.00. (1987 prices).  No reservations accepted, or
    required.
24.2" Best Snack/Treat In MK "USMFG::GHIGGINSOh Nellie !! Your Here At Last...Mon Feb 27 1989 14:478
    
     Dole Whip, available in Magic Kingdom's Adventure Land, has my
    vote. Last year in May I waited in line for 40 minutes to get
    this treat. Am I nuts ?  Well maybe just a little .....
    
    George
    
    P.S.  Churro's (sp?) in Frontier Land came a close second....
24.3BEST MealDPDMAI::MATTSONMon Feb 27 1989 15:4413
    The best meal, we had was at Epcot, in FRANCE.  I don't remember
    the name of restaurant, but the food was reasonable, and FANTASTIC!!!
     
    We didn't much care for the funny sandwhiches in the Magic Kingdom
    park.  The french bread, hollowed out, with chicken or tuna salad,
    piled inside, and eaten like an ice cream cone.  That was about
    all we could find there.  Was there something else that we missed,
    burgers or something?  
    
    One good thing, tho, my dad is diabetic, and has to have fruit with
    every meal, and we had no problem whatsoever, finding some sort
    of fruit or fruit juice, with no sugar, in it for him.
    
24.4USMFG::GHIGGINSOh Nellie !! Your Here At Last...Mon Feb 27 1989 16:336
    
    Re: .3
    
      Does the restaurant your referring to have burgundy awnings ?
    If so it might be the Chef Le' Paris (?). I agree with you 100%.
    It was the best meal I had in Epcot too.
24.5Churro'sBUSY::TBUTLERMon Feb 27 1989 19:579
    	In regards to .2, Dole Whip is great!!  I love that stuff. 
    Also the Churros are really different.  It's almost like a cinnamon
    bread stick with a kick.  
    	In EPCOT I loved Alfredo's.  I got the Futtuchini Alfredo of
    course and it was great.
    	The Monte Cristo sandwichs in the Magic Kingdom are also very
    good.
    
    Tom
24.6BEST restaurantKNEE::SEAGLEDisney-aphileMon Feb 27 1989 22:1815
    I enjoyed "The Bistro" in EPCOT's France pavilion.  Very classy
    atmosphere, towel over the arms of the waiters, the whole 9 yards.
    Best of all, because of where it is and its clientele, you do not
    have to put on "airs" or pretenses (we went in our shorts, Nikes,
    and polo shirts...along with most everyone else there).  The service
    was amazing (if you put your fork down, you BETTER mean that you
    are finished!).
    
    Net price?  I find that interesting.  There were 5 of us who tried
    France, Germany, and Italy during 3 days there and our bill always
    divided out to $20 per person including gratuity!  Those were
    major-league meals, too, literally from soup to nuts.  Of course,
    it has been 3 years since I last visited EPCOT (I'm soooo ashamed).
    
    David.
24.7WORST Attraction/RideKNEE::SEAGLEDisney-aphileMon Feb 27 1989 22:2825
    (this applies to Disneyland as well, IMHO)
    
    Unquestionably..."It's a Small World" (hereafter, IASM).
    
    LET ME EXPLAIN!!!     (I can just hear the screams of disbelief!)
    
    If memory serves me, IASM was originally done as a World's Fair
    attraction by the Disney company for Bank of America.  It was barely
    cute 20-30 years ago, but now (in the age of AudioAnamatronics)
    it is pathetic.  Furthermore, after you wait an average of 20 minutes
    to get on the ride it is a major disappointment.
    
    Finally, a personal anecdote.  My feelings of hostility for this
    attraction were cemented when IASM experienced temporary "technical
    difficulties" one day in July when we were visiting Disneyland with
    some relatives.  We waited for at least 30 minutes in the baking
    sun to get on this turkey.  In the China room the ride had some
    sort of problem and "stalled out" for 10 minutes.  Ten minutes of
    wooden figures screeching the lyrics to the song in CHINESE into
    your ears is enough to make you batty.  I have only ridden IASM
    once since then (against my better judgment) under extreme peer
    pressure.
    
    FWIW,
    David.
24.8BEST Attraction/RideKNEE::SEAGLEDisney-aphileMon Feb 27 1989 22:3720
    I guess I need to give my opinions of the "best" now that I've trashed
    "It's a Small World"...
    
    Best Attraction, Magic Kingdom: The Haunted Mansion.
    	I *know* that this ride utilizes circa 1968 technology to do
    	it's thing, but I still am amazed.  To think that no lasers,
    	holograms, or other "hi-tech" devices are employed and yet it
    	looks that good wipes me out.  Also, the first time I rode this
    	one at Disneyland I was only 8 years old and the fact that it
    	did not scare the life out of me, but made me think twice
    	about the subject due to the "realism" left quite an impression.
    
    Best Attraction, EPCOT: Universe of Energy.
    	What a concept!  Also, I really enjoy the "smell-o-rama" (or
    	whatever they call it) which beautifully complements the
    	AudioAnamatronics.  Then, as icing on the cake, the ride is
    	re-charged by solar collectors on the roof?!   UNBELIEVABLE!
    
    
    David.
24.9BEST Restaurant AtmosphereATE012::CLAUDEClaude G. BerubeTue Feb 28 1989 11:036
    My best  overall  award has to go to the atmosphere of all the sit down
    restaurants inside the MK and Epcot, were else can you get a good meal,
    waited on hand and  foot,  see  some  interesting  sights  all in your
    shorts, tee-shirt and sneakers. ;^)
    
    Claude
24.10Here are my picks for WDWATE012::CLAUDEClaude G. BerubeTue Feb 28 1989 14:0571
    here are my picks for WDW, (gee did I miss something? ;^))
    see previous note for overall award.
        
    BEST Meal/Money No  Object   - By far was France 'Les Chefs de  France'
                                   The Dinner  For  2 which included Salmon
                                   Pate for around $50 plus,  I believe the
                                   entree was prime rib?

    BEST Meal/Value              - Toss    up  between  Japan's  Teppanyaki
                                   Dining  Rooms  for    their   Steak/Fish
                                   dinners, Germany's Beirgaten Smoked Pork
                                   Loin dinner for 2 and Canada 'Le Celier'
                                   for the Tourtiere and Maple Syrup Pie.
                                   (as you can see I enjoyed eating in WDW)

    MOST OVERRATED Dinner Show   - I guess the Polynesean revue, saw better
                                   ones in Hawaii.

    BEST Dinner Show             - By far is the  Hoop-Dee-Doo,  oh!   that
                                   strawberry shortcake....
    
    Best Breakfast Value WDW     - The breakfast  buffets  at  any  of  the
                                   Resort hotels.

    Best Character Breakfast     - Melvin the Moose Show FW.
        
    MOST UNDERRATED Snack  Food at WDW - My favorites are the Monte Cristos
                                   batter-dipped deep fried turkey, ham and
                                   Swiss  cheese  sandwiches  at  the  Town
                                   Square Cafe on Main Street MK.

    WORST Hotel Outside the Park - Caravan Motor Inn off I-Drive,  next  to
                                   the  Sheraton    Circular  Towers,  just
                                   because it catered to the Bus-Load crowd
                                   and the partying to the wee hours of the
                                   night.  Otherwise for $30/night back  in
                                   '82  AAA  discount it really wasn't that
                                   bad.
    
    BEST Attraction/ride overall - has to be American Adventure in Epcot, I
                                   feel so damn patriotic after watching it

    BEST Attraction              - toss  up  between    Pirates    of   the
                                   Carribean,  Hanted   Mansion,  Spaceship
                                   Earth and The World of Motion
    
    BEST Thrill Ride             - Today it's Thunder Mountain,  sure to be
                                   surpassed by Star Tours  and The Wonders
                                   of Life Body Wars. 
    
    BEST Movie Overal            - What Else but 'Captain EO'
    
    BEST Circle-Vison Movie      - 'O Canada' what can I say,  mom was from
                                    Sherbrook Quebec.  I also enjoyed China
    
    WORST Attraction             - It's  a Small World, OK the first  time,
                                   by the  wife and kid always go again and
                                   seem to  sing that damn song the rest of
                                   the day.

    BEST Beach                   - By far the Polynesean,  to  the  left of
                                   Luau  Cove, I assume the Grand Floridian
                                   will be just as good from what I  saw in
                                   '87. peaceful and quite

    BEST  Pool                   - Disney Inn, nice  and  quite.   Also the
                                   one at Vacation Villa's.
    
    Worst Pool                   - Polynesean  and  Contemporary,  although
                                   the Polynesean pool  is  nice, lot's  of
                                   tourist walking around both places.
24.11WORST attraction/rideTLE::KARAMTue Feb 28 1989 15:3013
My choice of the WORST ride in the Magic Kingdom has to be the Grand Prix
Raceway.  This appears to be one ride which is comparable to those contained in 
most amusement parks.  I have encountered long lines here and when you do get in
a car, you are always bumper to bumper.

In EPCOT, I would have to say that I was somewhat disappointed by the Livings
Seas.  I don't have any particular gripes, but came away from it a tad 
disappointed.  Maybe because there was not an abundance of fish in the tank?
When we go in November, I'm sure we will go to it again and possibly be  more
pleased.

peter
24.12BEST attraction/rideTLE::KARAMTue Feb 28 1989 15:3112
I like the majority of the rides/attractions, but my favorites are:

Magic Kingdom - Pirates of the Caribbean - I am always amazed at the
detail/care taken on the pirates, townspeople, and even the animals.
Each time through it I notice some detail that I hadn't seen before.

EPCOT - the American Adventure Show is my top attraction.  This is one 
attraction which the rest of my family has no choice about seeing, I demand
that we see it!  Besides having great Audio-Animatronics, the patriotic
theme lifts me up.

peter
24.13BEST Attraction While Waiting for an AttractionINDMKT::GOLDBERGLen GoldbergTue Feb 28 1989 16:5013
    My nomination for the best attraction while waiting for an attraction
    is the slide show outside Captain EO in Journey Into Imagination.

    It is a fairly simple, (by Disney standards), multi-projector slide
    show put on by Kodak with lots and lots of snapshots.  The images span
    several generations, some are funny, some sentimental with kids and
    puppies, and some are funny just because of their juxtaposition with
    other images. The whole thing is accompanied by a typically catchy
    Disney tune.
    
    I enjoyed this show even more than I liked Captain EO itself.  I
    just can't stand Michael Jackson.  Having him dance in my lap doesn't
    make me like him any better. 
24.14My Nominations....MPGS::PELTIERTue Feb 28 1989 17:3726
    My nominations are based on my May, 1988 trip...
    
    Best Restaurant:  The restaurant in France (upstairs).  I think it is
    		called the Bistro.  The food was delicious (chocolate
    		tourte for desert), the service superb.  I don't know about
    		the price.  We were part of a studio audience that day for
    		a Los Angles tv show (similar to Evening Magazine) and we
    		had lunch with the cast and crew.
    
    Best Attraction:  I *love* the Pirates of the Carribean in  Magic
 		Kingdom and the Spaceship Earth in Epcot.  During our trip
    		in 1988, we went on both of these attractions twice.  There
    		is so much detail that you always see something new each
    		time.
    
    Most Underrated attraction:  I really enjoyed the Carousel of Progress. 
    		This seems to be an old attraction, but I liked the way the
    		round theater rotated to each new seen.  Also, I think that
    		all of the circle visions are underrated.  I especially
    		loved the circle vision in China.
    
    
    Reading this notes file makes we want to go back soon (like next 
    week !!)
    
    	Ellen
24.15WORST attractionDEC25::STANLEYMarilyn I. StanleyWed Mar 01 1989 01:4713
    My vote for WORST attraction is Mission to Mars.  Since Star Tours
    has opened at Disneyland, it seems really outdated.  

    I'm anxiously awaiting to hear if Tomorrowland is going to be closed 
    down so that it can be updated.  I seem to remember hearing that 
    George Lucas was working on several projects for Disney.

    My vote for second WORST attraction is the Enchanted Tiki Room.
    I remember the first time I went to WDW, I really loved this.
    That may have been because it was one of the first attractions
    that I saw.  I was really amazed with the audio-animatronics.
    My last visit I just couldn't go to it.  I'd already seen it once
    that year at Disneyland and figured that once a year was enough.
24.16BEST attractionDEC25::STANLEYMarilyn I. StanleyWed Mar 01 1989 01:515
    This is really a hard one.  I love so many of them.  

    I'll cast my vote for Big Thunder Mountain.  It was the first
    roller coaster that got off of and wanted to get right back on.
    (I generally will go on the roller coaster once per vacation.)
24.17Character breakfastsDEC25::STANLEYMarilyn I. StanleyWed Mar 01 1989 01:577
    Since this is the note awards, how about adding BEST/WORST
    character breakfast.  

    I haven't attended one yet but would like to make it to at
    least one this summer.  Which one should I go to?  Remember
    your vote counts.
24.18Bambi's Boat Bagels ?USMFG::GHIGGINSOh Nellie !! Your Here At Last...Wed Mar 01 1989 16:228
    
    Re: .17
    
        I'm note sure how this rates with the rest, but I'm planning
      on the one on the Empress Lilly. I think it's called something
      like, " Breakfast A La' Disney. I heard so much about the Melvin
      one, and others though. I think I'll stick with my first idea
      though.
24.19my favoritesFRIEZE::FRATTURELLII'd rather be at Disney WorldWed Mar 01 1989 18:0440
    Here's my cut at this:
    
    	Best Restaurant(s): Empress Room aboard the Empress Lilly 
           Riverboat @Disney Village, and Victoria & Albert's in
           the Grand Floridian Resort Hotel. Others worth mentioning;
           Alfredo's in Italy, The Coral Reef in the Living Seas, Le
    	   Cellier in Canada, and any of the French Restaurants in
           France. The Lake Buena Vista Club Restaurant is also very
           good. As you can tell, this is one of my favorite pastimes
           when my wife and I go to WDW.
    
    	Best Attractions: (in my opinion) - The Haunted Mansion (love
    	   the special effects), Big Thunder Mountain (at night), Pirates
           of the Caribbean, just walking around and thru Cinderella
    	    Castle.
    
    	   EPCOT Center: The American Adventure and the Liberty singers,
		Captain EO, the movies in Canada, France (Love the music!),
    		Universe of Energy, Spaceship Earth, Sitting in a holding
    		pattern on the Monorail overlooking World Showcase at
    		night (Breadthtaking!).
    
    Best Snack food: DOLE Whip in Adventureland!
    
    Best Breakfast treats: The Shrimp omelette at the Coral Isle Cafe
        on the 2nd floor of the Polynesian Resort Hotel, or the TONGA
        (Sourdough bread stuffed with bananas and covered with cinammom,
         then cooked like French Toast...Wow!!!), or the breakfast buffet
         at the Top of the World Restaurant on the 15th floor of the
         Contemporary Hotel.
    
    Best Bakery: Le Patissiere in France - EPCOT World Showcase. A great
         place to go to get out of the afternoon sun, and have a special
         treat and some relaxation.
    
    I could go on and on. Just think, I haven't even seen MGM Studio
    Tour, Pleasure Island, Typhoon Lagoon, ...oh god...I want to go
    back so bad....
    
    
24.20USMFG::GHIGGINSOh Nellie !! Your Here At Last...Wed Mar 01 1989 19:405
    
    Re: .19
    
        Alright !!!! Another Dole Whip lover ............
    
24.21Best and WorseSPGBAS::CAMPBELLThu Mar 02 1989 13:2322
    Best Restaurant:  The restaurant in the Disney Inn, great food,
    wonderful service.
    In EPCOT - Italy and England had wonderful food and service
    
    Best Snack Food:  DOLE WHIP
    
    Best Attraction:  The Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean
    Spaceship Earth, The Land, Universe of Energy, Imagination & Captain
    EO
    
    Best dinner show:  Hoop-Dee-Doo
        
    Worse Attraction:  Jungle Cruise (after the first time), Tiki Birds
    (after the first time), Small World (after 15 times).  My husband
    refuses to go in this ride again (we got stuck in it a few years
    ago and I thought he would choke those dolls to death if they sang
    that song one more time.(Someone even gave us a crib mobile when
    my son was born that played Its a small world,  lets just say he
    accidently broke it on purpose.
    
    
    
24.22BEST Soft DrinkINDMKT::GOLDBERGLen GoldbergThu Mar 02 1989 17:2010
    The iced tea in WDW is wonderful.
    
    I'm an iced tea fan anyway, and get real upset that you can't get
    it in a resturant in New England between labor day and memorial
    day.  (The begining of September throuth the end of May).
    
    In WDW, every resturant, fast food place, and snack stand, has a
    machine that *brews* the stuff.  No instant tea powder here.  Add a
    wedge of lemon and your ready to survive the Florida heat for at least
    another hour.
24.23I found one...THRUST::COTHRANThu Mar 02 1989 17:4416
Re: Note 24.22                  
INDMKT::GOLDBERG "Len Goldberg"
>                              -< BEST Soft Drink >-

>    The iced tea in WDW is wonderful.
>    
>    I'm an iced tea fan anyway, and get real upset that you can't get
>    it in a resturant in New England between labor day and memorial
>    day.  (The begining of September throuth the end of May).
    
	Chestnuts in Nashua N.H.  I had a nice "brewed" glass of ice 
	tea there this past Tuesday.

	bryan
    
24.24Empress Lilly Character BreakfastDNEAST::ROBBINS_GARYAll the cold in Alaska...Thu Mar 02 1989 17:4526
    re: .17 Character Breakfasts
    
    Last October we attended a character breakfast aboard the Empress
    Lilly, in the "Fish" room, which is upstairs in the bow of the"ship".
    
    We were served scrambled eggs, sausage, hash browns, fruit, juice,
    coffee, tea, milk, and danish.  It was served by waitresses, but
    you could get another plate of breakfast if you wished.
    
    Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Donald, and Pluto were there, one at a time
    and were very accomodating for photos.  They didn't spend a whole
    lot of time there, but time enough to get the pictures you wanted.
    
    They don't all come in the room at the same time, and there were
    never more than two in the room at once (one coming and one going).
    So don't get the idea they sit and stay through the whole meal.
    
    One thing that happened while we were waiting in line to go "aboard"
    the EL for the CB was that Mickey went strolling past the crowd,
    unescorted, and walked happily along the boardwalk and into the
    boat.  It really felt like the little guy was "real"...it was the
    only time we saw a character by himself, not escorted by security
    people...it was neat B^)
    
    After the CB on the EL make sure to visit the WDW Shopping Village.
    Lots of neat stuff and fun things going on there. 
24.25Iced Tea fans UNITE !DNEAST::ROBBINS_GARYAll the cold in Alaska...Thu Mar 02 1989 18:147
    re: .22
    
    Attention Iced tea fans:  Don't get iced tea at the booths in Sea
    World...it's not real tea, it's some kind of iced tea "drink"...
    YUCKO !
    
    Now back to our regularly scheduled topic.
24.26Best attraction - EPCOTDEC25::STANLEYMarilyn I. StanleyThu Mar 02 1989 23:5711
    It's a toss up.  My favorite attraction at EPCOT is a toss up
    between the American Adventure and the Listen to the Land boat
    ride.

    The American Adventure stirs up loads of patriotic feelings.
    I feel even more glad to be an American when I leave it.

    The boat ride is amazing to me.  It pointed out what is being
    done in agriculture.  It really heightened my awareness.  I'd
    love to sometime with people who would appreciate taking the
    tour.
24.27It's puzzling me...VOGON::KCAMPBELLlooking on the bright sideFri Mar 03 1989 10:385
    Can somebody please explain what "DOLE WHIP" is?  
    
    Thanks,
    
    Karen
24.28The Best Non-Disney Attraction!TYCOBB::TPSECLynne S...Noting BIG TIME!Fri Mar 03 1989 13:517
    I have to admit, I loved the carrousel in Fantasyland!  I am an
    admirer of carrousel animals, and I thought Disneyworld's carrousel
    was the most fabulaus I have ever seen.  I real delight to ride,
    for the young and young at heart!!
    
    Lynne S.
    
24.29The Best and Worst from Lynne S.PAR5::TPSECLynne S...Noting BIG TIME!Fri Mar 03 1989 16:2829
    Ok....here goes...
    
    *The best attractions in Magic Kingdom are*
    1. Haunted Mansion
    2. Magic Journeys 3D movie
    3. Pirates of Carrabean and Jungle Cruise
    4. Country Bear Hoedown
    5. Space Mountain
    
    *The worse attractions in Magic Kingdom
    1. Tom Sawyer Island...yeah I can walk through the woods at my parents
    and have just as much fun.
    
    2. Mission to Mars...I actually feel asleep in it.
    
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    *The Best Attractions at Epcot*
    
    1. Michael Jackson Captain Eo 3D movie
    2. Planet earth
    3. Journey to Imagination
    4. All of World Showcase
    
    *The Worse Attraction in Epcot*
    1. All the movies they played before riding the attractions that
    go with them, I fell alsleep in all of them. :-)
    
    
24.30USMFG::GHIGGINSOh Nellie !! Your Here At Last...Fri Mar 03 1989 16:3113
    Re: .27
    
       Karen,
    
         Tis a sad day when those who wander the Magic Kingdom, 
       unknowingly ommit such a tasty treat. The best way I can
       describe it is that it's kind of sherbert-ish. All I can
       remember is that it's made from fresh pinapples. There
       could have been other flavors but a don't remember. They
       serve it in a plastic cup like soft-serve ice cream 
       garnished with a wedge of fresh pinapple.
    
       George
24.31Hotel name changesATE012::CLAUDEClaude G. BerubeFri Mar 03 1989 16:4516
>    WORST Hotel Outside the Park - Caravan Motor Inn off I-Drive,  next  to
>                                   the  Sheraton    Circular  Towers,  just
>                                   because it catered to the Bus-Load crowd
>                                   and the partying to the wee hours of the
>                                   night.  Otherwise for $30/night back  in
>                                   '82  AAA  discount it really wasn't that
>                                   bad.

    For you oldtime WDW travelers who  like  to  stay on/off I-Drive, while
    looking over the lates AAA tour book, I see that the Caravan Motor inn,
    has been bought and renovated by Day's Inn,  and is now called Days Inn
    East of Universal Studios, and the old Sheraton Twin  towers  I  eluded
    too  about has been renamed Orlando Twin Towers and Convention  Center.
  
    
    Claude
24.32Dole WhipRAINBO::WEBERFri Mar 03 1989 17:381
    Tastes better in Hawaii
24.33Hollow treats..ROLL::CONYERSFri Mar 03 1989 19:554
    The only problem with the Dole whip was that it was hollow.  We
    bought a couple since they looked good, and were disappointed to
    find that they only had whip around the outer edge of the cup. 
    I have to agree that they did taste great.
24.34Dole Whip in EpcotINDMKT::GOLDBERGLen GoldbergSat Mar 04 1989 00:472
    Dole Whip is also available in Epcot at the Refreshment Port next
    to Canada, and perhaps elsewhere.
24.35VOGON::KCAMPBELLlooking on the bright sideTue Mar 07 1989 07:518
    Re: .30
    
    George,
    
    Thanks for the description...I seem to remember seeing this delicacy
    somewhere around Adventureland...
    
    Karen
24.36USMFG::GHIGGINSOh Nellie !! Your Here At Last...Tue Mar 07 1989 15:528
    
     Re: .35
    
       Your welcome Karen. Yes it was in Adventureland. Some other 
      replies have given other locations also.
    
    
      George_who's_hoping_for_Dole_Whip_at_Disneyland.
24.37just a fewAYNRND::REILLYGet outta here, you hockey puck!Mon Mar 13 1989 12:1421
    

    Personal Favorite Eats:   Narcoosee's
                              The British Pub in EPCOT (fish n chips)
                              Golf Resort restaurant (Pampano Grill)
                              Hoop-de-doo Revue
    Classiest Retaurant:      Victoria and Alberts (warning:  $200+ tab
                              for dinner for two, we wouldn't have done
                              it unless we were on the Grand Plan)
      
    Best Attractions:  Haunted House
                       Pirates
                       Space Mountain
                       Universe of Energy

    Best World Showcase:  France, Mexico, Norway
        
    Best pool:         Grand Floridian
 
    
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS    
24.38Know your enemyCALL::SWEENEYWho is my control?Fri Mar 31 1989 20:2221
    The "worst" of WDW, I think is the behavior of the other "guests"
    
    FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY
    
    Gimme a break...  The pictures won't come out anyway, and you're giving
    me and everyone else a headache.  I think that WDW should make the
    message longer and stronger and emphasize that the flash doesn't bother
    the audio-animatronic figures, but it bothers the hell out of the rest
    of the people in the audience.
    
    I think in the last two years "point and shoot" type cameras with
    built-in electronic flashes are becoming more and more common and this
    is the culprit.  Am I being a bit sensitive?
    
    DARKNESS, CROWDS, AND RUNNING
    
    I had to be extra careful in WDW at night.  Running through heavy
    crowds in darkness seems to be all too common for the 12-21 age group.
    I didn't have an accident or even a near one, but I don't think a
    simple "I'm sorry" would do if some fool hurt my kids because he
    couldn't stop in time.
24.39I'll second that one, and will add...RECAP::SEAGLEDisney-aphileFri Mar 31 1989 21:2126
    RE: .38
    
>   FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY
    
    *Really!*  The last time I visited WDW I resisted the urge to
    keep from choking a few weenies who insisted on taking flash pictures
    inside about 4 rides (I was unfortunate enough to get onto rides
    like "Mission to Mars" and these dweebs would be there...it was
    almost like they were following me).  I think it is a shame that
    the Cast Members will not or cannot push the issue.
    
    Your bit about fully-auto cameras being responsible is right on
    the mark...most of these bone-heads do not realize the flash has
    even gone off!  What is worse is that after they do it and get several
    prompt and intense scowls from myself and others, THEY DO IT AGAIN
    later on!
    
>   DARKNESS, CROWDS, AND RUNNING
    
    You forgot to mention "PUSHING AND TAKING CUTS IN LINE" which seems
    to be becoming more prevalent, second only to "TALKING DURING THE
    SHOWS" which makes me crazy.
    
    
    <SIGH!>,
    David.
24.40AYNRND::REILLYGet outta here, you hockey puck!Mon Apr 03 1989 11:0429
24.41Just love those *quiet* monorail ridesHBO::MADDENKeep your face to the sunshineMon Apr 03 1989 11:3936
To add another funny (?) story to the collection....  This one
takes place on the monorail.  Picture it:

My husband and I and my folks (with whom we were vacationing) were
riding the early monorail over to Epcot.  My folks were talking with
a woman beside them about her all-inclusive package (we're always
looking for the best way to plan our next Disney World vacation...).

Anyway, a few rows back in the monorail, there's some sort of a 
*discussion* going on between a mother and her little boy (probably
about 4 years old).  This mother is holding her daughter (less than
a year?) in her lap and just hollering at this little boy.  No mat-
ter what he says or does, she's hollering at him:  "Stop asking
questions," "Sit there and be good," "Didn't I tell you to stop
talking?" "Do we have to take you back home now?", etc., etc.  

So this woman beside my mom yells back to her to keep her problems
to herself, that no one on this monorail is interested in hearing
about her inability to keep control.  Well, everyone on the mono-
rail is now looking at these two women wondering what's going to 
break out next.  The woman with the kids tells the woman next to us
to keep quiet and not to worry about it.  The other one (next to us)
is telling the mother that she didn't spend $2,000.00 and travel
thousands of miles to sit on a monorail and listen to parents yell
at their kids.

I must say that that did shut the mother up, and I think that the
sympathies ran with the woman next to us, because the little boy
really hadn't been doing anything wrong.  My husband and I had seen
him asking his mother and father questions about what they were go-
ing to see.  It was really the mother who started the whole scene.
And besides, the woman beside us was right - none of us was enjoy-
ing listening to this mother scream at her kids at 8:30 in the a.m.

Anyway, it was a l-o-n-g ride over to Epcot.  We kept waiting for a
fight to break out or something.
24.42DEC25::STANLEYMarilyn I. StanleyWed Apr 05 1989 21:1413
    RE: .38 & .39
    
>   FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY
    
        I've been so tempted to take along my flash and push the
        test button whenever I'm sitting in front of someone who
        insists on taking flash pictures.  But then I'd also be
        irritating those persons who happened to be in the vicinity
        of the jerk.
        
        <sigh>

        Marilyn
24.43BEST/WORST OF WDWWAV12::NEWFELLMon Apr 10 1989 19:346
    Best Attraction:  Pirates Of The Carribean
    Worst Attraction:  Living Seas (EPCOT)
    Best Dinner Show:  Hoop Dee Doo
    Most Overrated Dinner Show:  The Luau 
    
    
24.44Best far outweighs the worst!EUCLID::OWENIn a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUMMon Apr 10 1989 19:5829
    First the Best's:
    
    -Best Ride in Magic Kingdom: Tie between Pirates of the Carribean
    and Thunder Mountain.
    -Best Food/Best Dinner show: Top of the world
    -Best Value Meal: Crystal Palace in Magic Kingdom
    -Best Snack Food: Frozen Bannanas dipped in Chocolate
    -Best Attraction in Future World (Epcot Center): Universe of Energy
    or World of motion.
    -Best Country in World Showcase: Germany (I loved the beer.  I know
    I'm only 20, but I'm gonna try anyway.)
    -Best Beach: River Country                       
    -Best Sport: Water Sprites
    -Best Arcade: Fiesta Fun Room in the Contemporary or The Main St.
    Arcade in the Magic Kingdom
    -Best Place to relax w/o crowds: Discovery Island
    
    Now the Worsts:
    -Overrated Dinner show: Hoop-De-do review.  Diamond horseshoe in
    Magic Kingdom is just as good, and cheaper.
    -Worst Attraction:  It's a small world.  My Mom sang it forever...
    -Worst Food:  I didn't know there was any... 
    
    
    There aren't many bad things, as you can see.
    
    68 Days and counting...
    Steve O
    
24.45REGENT::GALLANTOrigo mali...Fri Apr 21 1989 14:4320
    
    
    	Yikes!  I don't know if I could name one particular thing
    	to be the best or the worst.  Let's see..
    
    	Best Attraction at Epcot	- 	Journey To Imagination
    	Best Attraction at Kingdom	-	Haunted Mansion (memories!)
    	Best Place to Stay (camping)	-	Fort Wilderness 
    	                                	
    	Worst Attraction at Epcot	-	Living Seas 
    	Worst Attraction at Kingdom	-	Hall of Presidents (YAWN!)
    
    	I was really disappointed with The Living Seas.  I really thought
    	there would be more to it than there was.  And the Hall of 
    	Presidents is very educating, but I thought it was boring as
    	ever!!
    
    	Tigga~~~
    	      
    	
24.46Decisions, DecisionsUSCTR2::TOMYLJoel R. Tomyl DTN 297-4282Wed May 17 1989 23:0224
    My list includes:
    
    	Best MK Attraction		Peter Pan's Flight
    	Worst MK Attraction		Mission to Mars
    
    	Best EPCOT Center Attraction	American Adventure
    	Runner Up			Journey in Imagination
    	Worst EPCOT Center Attraction	El Rio del Tempio (Mexico)
    
    	Best Dinner Show		Hoop Dee Doo Revue
    	Runner Up			Germany Pavillion
    	Over Rated Dinner show		Polynesian Revue
    
    	Best value/meal			Town Square Cafe
    	Best Snack Food			The little fish in Japan
    	Worst value/meal		King Stephen's Banquet Hall
    	Worst Snack Food		Dole Whip (sorry George, it's
    					a mix)
	Worst value/snack		Pineaples filled with mai tais
    					served at the Polynesian
    
    	Best show/nofood		The Renisance Theater UK
    	Worst show/nofood		The Germany puppet Theater
24.47Taste buds in tears...USMFG::GHIGGINSThu May 18 1989 19:598
    
    WHAT !!!!!!!!!! Imitation Dole Whip ......... No real pineapple
    taste !!!!! I'm canceling my trip...not going to Florida....
    I'll just go to Whalom Park !!!!!!
    
    ******* Ya right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ********            
    
    George      22_days_and_counting.....
24.48It's amazing, Isn't it.....FACT01::LAWRENCEJim/Hartford A.C.T.,DTN 383-4523Tue Jun 20 1989 02:38110
    
    
    
    Well, what can one say about WDW. It is the crown jewel in the central
    Florida vacation paradise and has no equal, in our opinion, on earth
    for overall fun times.  My wife and I are new to this conference,
    having discovered it only this week. But we are veterans of WDW. I
    think we are over twenty five "disney days" (DDs) by now. (it's a better
    method of describing how often you have been then "oh, two vacations'
    worth...").  We have been four of the last six years for vacations, my
    parents having a house near Daytona (they come North for summers!). And
    then we had been before we met, me maybe another dozen DDs.
    
    We just read through the replies of this note and found ourselves
    saying "What! is he crazy" or "Right on brother!". I guess we all have
    very different tastes. I think we have been in everything and done
    everything at least once.  I generally feel that the people who don't
    act in the proper spirit of WDW or are just plain rude is the worst
    thing there.  We try to suspend belief a bit and be kids again. We try
    to ignore the occasional paint peel or cigarette butt and "let go". And
    it seems that some folks have to bring the problems of their regular
    lives there. A shame.
    
    I think it very hard to pick a "best". We just love BEING THERE. After
    all the times at WDW, I still occasionally turn to my wife and say
    "it's just amazing, isn't it... cut out of the Florida swamps...". The
    best thing? The "feel good" feeling you get when you're there...
    
    But in the spirit of things, (thx to Claude for the template) our votes:
     
        
    BEST Meal/Money No  Object   - By far was France 'Les Chefs de  France'
                        and the Bistro de Paris upstairs. The veal was
    			wonderful.
    
    BEST Meal/Value              - Japan in EPCOT and Crystal Palace in MK.
			Although the Canada restaurant is excellent for the
    			money. 
    
    MOST OVERRATED Dinner Show   - The Polynesean revue. No contest. 
    

    BEST Dinner Show             - The  Hoop-Dee-Doo,  but the Diamond
    			horseshoe is good too and a better value.
                                   
    
    Best Breakfast Value WDW     - The breakfast  buffets  at  any  of  the
    WDW hotels.
    
    Best Breakfast atmosphere    - The Land Grill, we love it. About
    $16/couple. 
    
    Best Character Breakfast     - Empress Lilly.                
    
        
    MOST UNDERRATED Snack  Food at WDW - My favorites are the Monte Cristos
    batter-dipped deep fried turkey, ham and Swiss  cheese  sandwiches  at
    the  Town Square Cafe on Main Street MK.

    WORST Hotel Outside the Park - Can't say, we like our comforts.    
    
    BEST  Hotel Outside the Park - The Marriott World Center, no contest.
    It's as good as any on the WDW grounds and cheaper. If you can do without
    the ambience of looking out at the lagoon at the MK or having the
    monorail at your door, it's totally RAD folks. I did a DEC convention
    there for a week and we stayed an extra few days.  Best pool in Florida
    that I have seen. Great Japanese restaurant (there are 6), just very nice
    and 50-100$/night less than the best WDW rooms.
    
    
    BEST Attraction/ride overall - has to be American Adventure in Epcot, I
    agree with those that mention the patriotic theme. I get a tear in my
    eye everytime. It represents the best America has to offer. A must see.
    Your first time will be special.

    
    BEST Attraction, MK          - toss  up  between    Pirates    of   the
                                   Carribean,  Hanted   Mansion
    
    BEST Attraction, EPCOT       - I like Living Seas. You see folks, you
    have to enjoy watching fish. I do. Otherwise, it would be dull. I never
    miss it.  Motion and Energy are wife favorites. Spaceship E is good.
                             
    
    BEST Thrill Ride             - Thunder mountain is tops. But Star
    Tours??? Can't wait.

    BEST Movie Overal            - What Else but 'Captain EO'
    
    BEST Circle-Vison Movie      - Canada and China.
    
    WORST Attraction, MK         - The space trip in TL, just God awful. I
    have just about run out of patience with Small World, but the wife and
    daughter drag me in every time....
    
    WORST Attraction, EPCOT      - Mexico ride. The pits.
    
    BEST Beach                   - Grand Floridian.
    
    BEST  Pool                   - Disney Inn, nice  and  quite.   Also the
                                   one at Vacation Villa's.
    
    Worst Pool                   - Polynesean.
    
    BEST weeks to go to WDW      - last of April, first of May, first 2
    weeks of October are our favorites.
    
    WORST weeks to go to WDW     - Christmas, July 4th, Easter (God awful)
    
    
24.49LaserphonicsPROSE::CLOUTIERYou're soaking in it.Thu Jun 22 1989 18:0628
    
    	I've read all 48 replies and there wasn't one mention of what I 
    	believe to be one of the most exciting events of a WDW experience --
    	Laserphonic Fantasy (or what they now call Illuminations). 
    
    	Our family (wife, 8 yr. old daughter, me) went to WDW for the
    	first time in July of 1987. We had the pleasure of being in
    	Epcot for the 4th of July and witnessed the laser, fireworks,
    	fountain, and music extravaganza around the World Showcase. To say 
    	it was exciting is an understatement of mammoth proportions. My 
    	daughter, who was sitting on my shoulders at the time, experienced 
    	such overwhelming sensory overload that she shook for the entire 
    	35 minutes or so (apparently the show was extended another 10
    	minutes for the holiday). My wife, generally known to be
    	unimpressed with most anything, didn't stop talking about it
    	until 2 weeks after we returned home from Florida.
    
    	As a side comment, I have to agree with Jim (previous reply)
    	about The Living Seas. I, too, enjoy watching fish and I 
    	thoroughly enjoyed UT's pavilion. If you're into being 
    	entertained by whiz-bang special effects and you can't 
    	appreciate the tranquility of watching what takes place
    	in what I think is a well-designed aquarium, perhaps Living
    	Seas is not for you. But we found a nice change from the
    	otherwise hurried atmosphere of most of the other Future
    	World attractions.
    
    	--Leo (who thinks this conference is great)
24.50Here is the vote from the UK.WOTVAX::BATTYSo Long, And Thanks For All The Fish!Wed Jul 19 1989 11:5875
    I vote for Big Thunder Mountain as best ride, especially after dark.
    We tried Space Mountain, which was good, but the anticipation when
    you can see a tight turn coming up gave me more thrill than just
    being jolted and bumped in pitch darkness, so BTMR has the edge.
    Strangely enough I saw more detail on BTMR after dark (Falling rocks,
    hovering bats and walls coming in to crush you) than I did during
    the day.
    
    Dole Whip as best snack. We got ours in Adventureland, it was very
    refreshing, and gave everyone a lift to carry on without a long
    break. It also showed how competitively everyone viewed selection
    of lines and queues. The till for our line locked up and the guy
    couldn't clear it, but when he suggested that we either join the
    other line, or wait for his supervisor with the master key, I thought
    the crowd was going to drag him over the counter and lynch him.
    
    Worst aspect - Behavior of visitors. I've sounded off at length
    about the power play of Brazilian Tour Groups in another note, so
    I will let that lie, but flash photography was bad, and so was line
    jumping. If you've seen the Country Bear Jamboree, you will remeber
    the bit about the Bear who takes a flash photo, and then this
    disembodied voice says "No Flash Photography, and this means YOU
    too". The message couldn't be plainer, but seems to promote an absolute
    fireworks display of flashes. 
    There were also a few 'professional' line jumpers working the MK.
    They were very rare, but the ones we spotted were so bad they were
    good, if that makes sense. They provided great pre show entertainment,
    when a wait was inevitable, and you just had to settle down and
    'Watch the People'. A typical one was at one of the Stage Shows
    in front of the Castle. We were at the back of the pack, which was
    about 20 people deep, when this guy with his son about 5-6 years
    old came up beside us. He started working diagonally through by
    muttering "He needs a bathroom" until he was halfway in, then changed
    to "Excuse me, We need to get back to our family" then near the
    front he picked a sociable looking group and seemed to ask if his
    son could slip in front of them so that he could see. Objective
    achieved, but at what cost to the son's moral outlook, lieing, cheating
    and conning gets you to the front of the pack! It was so obvious
    that everyone near us knew what he was doing, but we all just let
    him go, and almost gave him a cheer when he got to the front. As
    I said, it was so rare that it wasn't worth bothering with, but
    when you did spot one it was very entertaining.
    
    Best Dinner Show for us was the Hoop De Doo. So corny, but so full
    of energy. I'm not in the least biased by my daughter being picked
    to dance on stage, or me being picked for a spotlighted "Toot Toot"
    (If you want to know what that means, go see the show, I'm giving
    nothing away!). Food and drink good and plentiful, my jug of beer
    seemed to fill itself up every 5 mins. Disney Magic Again?
    
    Best Character Breakfast, Chip'n'Dale's Country Morning Jamboree.
    Like the Hoop-De-Doo, it was corny but full of energy, plenty to
    eat and drink, and a room full of people blowing kazoos was a sight
    to behold, especially at that hour of the morning!! It was also
    the only time we saw D Duck Esq. for autographs, we never saw him
    in the open again, only in Shows.
    
    Talking of Characters, Roger Rabbit seemed to have a 'Suprise Guest
    Appearance' near the end of every stage show we saw. Looks like
    he is being groomed for stardom, although I wonder how he will sign
    autographs with those wobbly fingers.
    
    The Polynesian Brunch on Sundays is worth a mention, for the length
    of time the characters spent at each table. No need to hunt them
    down, they came to each table in turn, and spent as much time as
    you wanted for photos, autographs, hugs and cuddles. I am resigned
    to not starring in any of my videos, because no-one else in the
    group seemed able to drive the camera, but Goofy dragged over one
    of the waiters, and in sign language made him video me in a Bear(Dog)
    Hug with him. 
    
    Everything in WDW was special, but the ones I have chosen had just
    that little bit extra for us.
    
    Mike B._who_is_still_living_the_dream_after_5_days_back!
24.51IllumiNATIONS...spectacular!!!!!!!!!TYCOBB::LSIGELEverybody Wants to Rule The WorldMon Jul 31 1989 13:115
    re:50
    I agree with you "IllumiNATIONS" was spectacular!!!! I was very
    impressed with it, very imaginative and very well pu together.
    
    Lynne_who_went_on_her_honeymoon_!!!!!
24.52BEST/WORSTREBOK::KILGOREDan @ WashingtonSun Oct 29 1989 11:3039
    Now my votes for the best and worst:
    
    Best Restaurant: The Land Grille Room
     It had wonderful food at reasonable prices. I also liked the revolving
     floor.  Granted, I felt like a fool eating in front of all those
     hungry(staring) people as we faced the lobby, But otherwise it was
     quite nice. Oh, the cheesecake there is better than I have found
     anywhere else.
    
    Worst Restaurant: The San Angel Inn
     The atmosphere was romantic, but that was the only good point. The
     menus were difficult to read in the dim candle light. Our waiter had an
     aurgument with the manager right at our table. The food was not very
     good, and it was *too* expensive!
    
    Best Attraction(Magic Kingdom): Space Mountain
     This is my all time favorite ride/attraction at any of the amusement
     parks I have been to. Maybe I'm a little biased, I happen to think
     anything at WDW is better than rides found elsewhere ;^)
    
    Worst Attraction(Magic Kingdom): Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
     We waited longer for this ride than anything else, only to be
     dissapointed. The ride would have been OK if I had been 6 or so but
     I'm not.
    
    Best Attraction(Epcot Center): Horizons
     This attraction is really neat! I love the whole thing! We have never
     had to wait in line. The special effects are wonderful. I especially
     like the ending(you have a choice of three).
    
    Worst Attraction(Epcot Center): Universe of Energy
     A snore! It was OK the first time around, but I think once is enough
     for this one.
    
    Best Attraction(MGM Studios): Great Movie Ride
     This is another of my all-time favorite attractions!
    
    Worst Attraction(MGM Studios): ???????????
     
24.53BEST Snack Food - Kids' OpinionINDMKT::GOLDBERGLen, Back From the WorldThu Dec 21 1989 14:5512
    My kids' vote for the best snack at WDW is for Mouseketeer Bars. 
    Personally, I don't see the attraction, but I think they each had one
    every day we were there.

    For those of you who don't know, they are Mickey Mouse shaped ice cream
    novelties on a stick.  The ears are chocolate ice cream covered with
    chocolate, the eyes, nose, and mouth are also chocolate.  The rest of
    the face is vanilla.

    Mouseketeer Bars are available from ice cream carts in all three theme
    parks.  These can also be purchased in your local supermarket, (and for
    much less than the $1.50 each they charge at WDW.)
24.54How DoleWhip Advertises Itself.USCTR2::TOMYLJoel R. Tomyl DTN 297-3188Tue Apr 03 1990 22:3732
    I came across something that might interest a few of you, especially
    George.  It was in my copy of this week's Amusement Business.  The ad
    took up 3/4 of a page (pages in AB are 14 1/2 X 11 1/4)
    
                           Call Us Delicious.
                          Call Us Soft Serve.
                                Call Us.
    
    Call toll-free for you free sampling of DoleWhip, the non-dairy soft
    serve with the delicious difference.
    
    Made with real fruit juice, non-dairy DoleWhip has just 20 calories per
    ounce.  So it's not only a refreshing change of taste, it's actually
    lower in calories than frozenyogurt.
    
    What's more, DoleWhip comes in seven delicious fruit flavors, plus
    chocolate and Vanilla.  And we're adding more fruit flavors all the
    time!  Look for new Lemon-Lime soon.
    
    But, one of the best reasons to call us is because DoleWhip is made by
    Dole, a leader in fruit and fruit-based products.
    
    So Call 1-800-232-8800 and arrange for your free sampling of great
    tasting DoleWhip today.
    
    DoleWhip
       Life's a little fresher with Dole
    
    The picture below the text shows 7 swirls each with a different color.
    
    I thought that you might find that interesting.
    
24.55Joel you taunter you !!!!!!!!WJOUSM::HIGGINSThe Jungle VIPWed Apr 04 1990 20:552
    
    I'm going into withdrawl ......8^)
24.56"Go away, or I shall taunt you a second time."USCTR2::TOMYLJoel R. Tomyl DTN 297-3188Wed Apr 04 1990 21:001
    
24.57SECOND BEST Breakfast FoodSENIOR::GOLDBERGWed Jun 20 1990 14:3910
    After the banana-stuffed French toast at the Poly, the chocolate-chip
    muffins served at Pioneer Hall for the Chip & Dale Country Morning
    Jamboree are in my opinion the second best breakfast food in the World.

    It is tempting to fill up on these, but save some room for the rest of
    the meal.  Someone suggested scooping a couple of the muffins into your
    bag and saving them for a mid-morning snack.  Not a bad idea.

    Are these muffins available anywhere else in WDW?

24.58Some of the BESTSICS::THEALLWed Jun 20 1990 15:076
    The best cookie used to be the Chocolate Chip Cookies just over the
    bridge as you enter Adventureland (I think).  We would stop there
    everytime we were in the area.
    
    The best Monte Cristo can be found at the Tavern (I'm not good with
    names) between Liberty Square and Fantsyland.
24.59ATE012::BERUBECalling Dick Tracy, Det..Wed Jun 20 1990 15:4119
    Rep to <<< Note 24.58 by ICS::THEALL >>>

>    The best cookie used to be the Chocolate Chip Cookies just over the
>    bridge as you enter Adventureland (I think).  
    
    Actually it's one bridge over, the one into Liberty Square and it's the
    Sleepy Hollow snack bar,  featuring  Toll House chocolate chip cookies,
    they are good aren't they.
    
>    The best Monte Cristo can be found at the Tavern (I'm not good with
>    names) between Liberty Square and Fantsyland.

    That'll  be  the Liberty Square Tavern, I didn't  remeber  them  having
    Monte  Cristo's  there  though,  I do remember them having  good  apple
    cobbles  and  salads.    I  actually  prefer  having  my Monte Cristo's
    followed by  Crepes Angelica's at the Town Square Cafe as you enter the
    MK.
    
    Claude
24.60wish I was thereXNOGOV::KARENwhen you wish upon a star...Thu Jun 21 1990 14:536
    My favourites are the blueberry muffins found in the Main Street Bake
    Shop.
    
    Mmmmm...
    
    Karen
24.61MAMTS5::JAMESThu Jun 21 1990 16:076
    Are the chocolate chip muffins at the Chip and Dale breakfast large or
    small? The reason I ask is because at the character buffet in the
    Contemporary they serve miniature muffins, all different flavors. All
    were good but nothing exceptional.
    
    John
24.62Cinnamon RollsICS::THEALLThu Jun 21 1990 16:145
    For those of you who just returned or are going in the near future, the
    was a mobile stand in one of the alcoves on Main Street that sold the
    BEST cinnamon rolls I have had.
    
    Has anyone seen the cart recently? 
24.63Muffins and RollsSENIOR::GOLDBERGThu Jun 21 1990 16:509
    re: Chocolate Chip Muffins

    Large.

    re: Cinnamon Rolls

    While I have not had them myself, I understand the Cinnamon Rolls from
    the Cinnamon Bay Bakery in Old Port Royale at the Caribbean Beach
    Resort are also excellent.
24.64c.r \/, brownies /\GEMINI::GIBSONThu Jun 21 1990 17:154
    I thought the cinnamon rolls from Port Royal looked better than they 
    tasted. However, their brownies were out of this world!
    
    Linda
24.65we enjoyed cinnamon rolls - port royaleTLE::KARAMFri Jun 22 1990 13:466
    My family really enjoyed the Cinnamon rolls, fruit filled!, from Port
    Royal.  Especially early in the morning, before 7:15, when they were
    still somewhat warm.  I recommend looking over the selection at the
    Pastry shop in Port Royal, there were many items to choose from.
    
    peter
24.66different Monte Cristos?ATE012::BERUBECalling Dick Tracy, Det..Tue Jul 17 1990 15:2323
  
    Since this topic has covered the Monte Cristo Sanwhiches served at WDW,
    the following is an  excerpt from 183.27 (Ruth Lowells trip report), so
    as to not clutter up the Trip report note.
    

>	I just had to try one of the
>	famed Monte Cristos so dinner was at Columbia Harbour House.
>	I thought it was good but it wasn't what I expected.  I was
>	appalled at seeing a deep fried sandwich with powdered sugar
>	on it - with honey to dip it in at that!  The Monte Cristos
>	I've had were dipped in egg and fried, sort of like French
>	toast.  
    
    Do they have different versions of the Monte Cristo's at WDW?
    
    Well I never  had  the  Monte  Cristo's  at the Columbia Harbour House,
    always had the ones they serve at the Town Square Cafe, which (up until
    '87 anyways) were indeed dipped in a egg based  batter  and  fried  and
    served with a fruit cup and a Rasberry type of  sauce  (for details see
    the recipe I posted in 42.3).

    Claude
24.67MC Sandwiches are HIstoryCOEM::SCOPAMAJORMon Aug 13 1990 14:094
    Hey guys...no more Monte Christo sandwiches. Sometime in June they
    started changing the menus and this item was removed from the list.
    
    Mike_who_found_out_3_weeks_too_late
24.68Cancel my Trip!!DELREY::STERN_TOHave TK; Will TravelWed Oct 31 1990 18:291
    
24.69BEST MEAL FOR MY MONEY-PIONEER HALLCSSSEC::SPURRELLFri Mar 29 1991 14:0514
I Went to Pioneer Hall (I Can't Remember the Name of the Restaurant)  They
had an all you can eat Prime Rib one night.  If you are a prime rib lover this
is it was very reasonable.  Another night they had prime rib for 8.95 and an
all you can eat salad and desert bar. 

There lunch specials are really reasonable as well.  If you have kids this
is the place to eat and save money.

There all you can eat breakfast was excellent.  If you are not planning on
going into the Walt Disney Theme Parks in the morning and want a large breakfast
you really should try this place.


Donna
24.70My $.02VISUAL::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoMon Jun 24 1991 15:1126
    
    BEST Meal/Money No Object - Anything at Alfredo's
    BEST Meal/Value - Prime Time
    
    WORST Hotel Outside the Park - Any Hotel Outside the Park (Any Quality Inn)
    
    BEST Attraction - (TMK) Pirates of the Caribbean
                      (EC)  The American Adventure
                      (MGM) Star Tours
    
    Worst Attraction - (TMK) Mission to Mars
                       (EC)  River of Time (Mexico)
                       (MGM) None 
    
    BEST Fireworks - Sorcery in the Sky (MGM)
 
    BEST Treat - Aloha Isle's Dole Whip of course
 
    BEST Soft Drink - Ice Tea...That's all I drink down there.
 
    MOST Underrated Treat - The Ice Treats at Typhoon Lagoon
 
    BEST Dinner Show - Hoop-Dee-Doo (probably the best in Fla.)
 
    BEST Character Breakfast - Well it was C&D's at FW (food better than HDD)
 
24.71My opinionCUPMK::JETTEThu Jul 25 1991 12:1519
    Well, here's my opinion...
    
    The best attraction is Pirates of the Carribean
    The worst is Peter Pan's flight tied with Mission to Mars
    
    The best hotel - The Disney Inn  (I have yet to see the CBR)
    
    The best snack food - Hmm...  The orange slushie you get near the Tiki
    Birds
    
    The most overrated show - The Luau
    
    The best show - The Hoop de doo revue  (Diamond Horshoe isn't bad
    either)
    
    And lastly - even with the addition of Epcot and MGM - I love MK best!
    
    Kathy
    
24.72Best and WorstWAGON::KRUEGERThu Jan 16 1992 16:5448
    I just stumbled over this note and now I'm (a) starving, and (b)
    homesick for the Magic Kingdom!
    
    I've been there 8 times and thought I had all the best bargains down
    but I've really learned alot today!  For instance, I've never (gasp!)
    had a Dole Whip!!!  That's going to change on my next trip (April).
    
    The best place to eat and the best bargain was the luncheon buffet put
    on by the Polynesian ... that would be our big meal of the day; I think
    it was about $10 for adults and $6 or $7 for kids.  Besides having a
    million things to choose from, there was always a roast lamb or roast
    pork or roast beef that was carved by the chef.  Then one year it was
    discontinued, but we were told that the Contemporary had the same
    buffer on their 15th floor.  So for a couple of years we had the same
    luncheon buffet at the Contemporary, and the price was about the same. 
    Then last year, after bragging to a friend of mine about this fabulous
    buffet, we were told that the Contemporary didn't do that anymore! 
    This was told to us by a waitress.  It was only after we bumped into a
    couple in the elevator that we found out that the buffer WAS held at
    the Contemporary, same price, but at night in the Pueblo Room!  We went
    and it was okay (prime rib was the specialty) but I missed all the
    choices.  The good thing was that the ambrosia was included, which was
    my favorite dessert.
    
    YOu really have to ask around and don't depend on the help, either. 
    Other tourists are always looking for bargains and willing to share
    their information with you.
    
    I ate at the French restaurants in Epcot three times, and they have
    great meals at lunchtime that can save you about half what you would
    pay for at night.  We always had our big meals at lunch so that we
    could walk them off during the day; at night we had something very
    light if anything at all (besides a snack).
    
    Fave snacks for us were the lemonade bars at Epcot.  My daughter liked
    the strawberry bars, but they didn't have them at the Magic Kingdom for
    some strange reason.
    
    Best attractions?  Everything other than the Tiki Birds at MK, the
    Flight to Mars, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Snow White (mostly the witch),
    all at MK.  The only bore at Epcot was the ride in Mexico.  I loved the
    Americana Review and never get enough of it.  I love "The Land" at the
    Kraft place; it amazes me how things grow and can be grown under
    duress.  All of the special displays were great; the Living Seas were
    okay, but I like the Boston Aquarium better.
    
    Mickey, I miss you!!!
    
24.73My most recent best/worstsMRKTNG::ITS4U::KUSEKOSKIMaintain imperturbable equanimityTue Mar 24 1992 18:0490
Best drink:			The coffee (100% Columbian).  My
                                wife says the decaf was the best
                                she's ever had!

Most overpriced drink:		$2.00 for sparkling water anywhere
                                at EPCOT!  Really guys, I've already
                                spent a bundle on this vacation --
                                don't rip me off for a drink!

Best protest over $2 water:	A $4 pint at the Rose and Crown Pub
                                in England at EPCOT.  Expensive, but
                                worth it....

Best restaurants:		Either of the restaurants in France
                                at EPCOT.  Fish dishes, duck,
                                escargot, salad (Bistro), and Creme
                                Brulee (Bistro) were favorites. 
                                LeNotre Bourgogne Blanc was nice.

Most overrated restaurant:	Steerman's Quarters at Empress
                                Lilly.  Too much food, too rich, too
                                much money.  Waiters performed like
                                Audioanimatronics.  Worst value at
                                WDW.

Best snacks:			Gumbo at Dixie Landings resort with
                                a Dixie Beer.  Beignets at Port
                                Orleans food court midday when they
                                make them fresh to order.  Just as
                                good as Jackson Square.

Worst snack:			Beignets at Port Orleans food court
                                in the morning when they "refry them
                                to order" (H-E-A-V-Y!).

Best daytime show:		Surprise in the Skies midafternoon
                                at EPCOT.  Only Disney could make
                                daytime fireworks work.  Pilots and
                                kites are great!

Best nighttime show:		Illuminations!  Nothing more need be
                                said.

Most overrated show:		SpectraMagic parade.  Living proof
                                that it's possible to make something
                                too big.  This would play well in a
                                stadium, but I liked the ethereal
                                feeling of the old Main Street
                                Electrical Parade better for the MK.

Tackiest distraction:		Skywriters for Church Street Station
                                and the Shamu blimp constantly
                                flying over WDW.  These things
                                deliberately fly over the daytime
                                show at EPCOT when everyone eyes
                                area on the skies!  If I were
                                Disney, I'd sue, but if you're in
                                Orlando, don't patronize these
                                places and express your discontent
                                to their management.

Best 3D movie:			Muppets at MGM.  The "extracinematic
                                enhancements" were great!

Best overall atmosphere:	Walking out of EPCOT after a late
                                dinner an hour after park closing. 
                                Quiet and beautiful.

Award for design excess:	Dolphin and Swan EPCOT resorts.

Worst new addition:		Pleasure Island.  Noise and lights
                                cover miles, dragging the real world
                                into the Disney Magic.  Draws a
                                crowd, so it's smart marketing, but
                                the right idea in the wrong place
                                IMHO.

Worst hotel feature:		New "ballistic flush" toilets at
                                Dixie Landings resort.  Sounds like
                                Typhoon lagoon in your room anytime
                                anyone in the building uses
                                bathroom, especially after midnight
                                and before 5am!

Most infectious disease:	The song from "It's a Small World." 
                                We didn't even go on the ride this
                                time, but just reading about it here
                                today has it going through my mind
                                all afternoon!  HELP!

24.74PO has similar problemsCIVIC::GIBSONTue Mar 24 1992 19:097
    re: .73
    
    The "ballistic flush" is in Port Orleans, too. It didn't bother us too
    much, but we were on the top floor. Maybe the lower floors hear more
    noises. 
    
    Linda
24.75Most Inconsiderate "Guests"BROKE::LUNDMon May 18 1992 17:1489
    
    OK; I've got a worst : Inconsiderate Visitors at WDW:
    
    Actually it is almost tied, I really couldn't decide which was
    	worst... So I decided they are tied....
    
    Inconsiderate Smokers - Now this is just inconsiderate ones.
    
    	Kudos to those who are aware of the amount of people around
    	them and don't wait in line (rejoin their family) until after
    	smoking; not lighting up where their not supposed to..
    
    It's the ones that light up where they are not supposed to
    (I wonder if they are really blind to the NON SMOKING SIGNS or
    the cigarette inside a red circle with a slash thru it signs
    like the lines waiting for rides (BTMR for instance). Besides it
    is probably a fire hazard to be smoking in there; and people are
    literally shoulder to shoulder in there. I nearly got burned across
    the face with one. Or places like Little Mermaid waiting line,
    restrooms, etc. Many of these places are dangerous for smoking to
    occur, yet people just light up anyhow. Those of us around these
    people are captive audiences for second hand smoke. 
    
    
    Now tied with the Inconsiderate Smokers is the Inconsiderate
    Adults with children....
    
    	These people really irrate me.. Now thats being mild; and
    it's been 6 weeks since I was there... Anyhow... These are the
    people that have decided that because they paid to enter WDW
    (not like the rest of us haven't) and because they have children
    with them they have the right to do what they want. The lessons
    they teach the children is unbelievable! The children may be theirs;
    their grandchildren, neices, nephews, etc... So I didn't say parents!
    
    Anyhow here's two examples: waiting for spector magic.... A couple
    of adults with Children decided they could move WDW benches right
    up to the ropw line for them and their children. The poor WDW employee
    patroling that area had to tell these people to return the benches;
    the adult refused and literally sat on it so the employee couldn't move
    the bench. Several additional employees and a supervisor were called
    in; the man started arguing with all of them. eventually the employees
    removed everything from the bench and moved them back; I think they
    were close to throwing the adult (at least) out of the park.
    This negatively effects:
    
    	- The rest of us who came and picked our place and are waiting
    	- The employees that must put up with such inconsideration
    	- The children with the adult, who watch the adult, "it's ok
    		to break the rules, we are on vacation", arguing with
    		Mickey's(WDW's) employees, moving furniture etc.
    
    Now if that was not bad enough; how about the inconsiderate adults
    with children that promise the children (at 7:45) that the parade
    doesn't start till 8; that they can do one more ride and then they
    will find a spot. They show up again close to 8:00 (in FrontierLand)
    there aren't any spaces... They ignore the employees trying to
    control people traffic. Then they place their children in the middle
    of the walking isles. "I'm sorry this is the cross walk; you'll have to
    go straight across or walk behind the crowds. I'm sorry, you'll
    have to move; you cannot stay there. So then they take their children
    and place them in front of the ropes in front of someone elses children
    who have been waiting for the parade. The crowd control employees
    come by and say I am sorry you can't be in front of the ropes you must
    be behind and the adult attempts to push their children in front of
    the others children; that doesn't work; so now these kids don;t have
    a place to see the parade; and they are upset.
    
    Again the people standing around; and the employees are adversely
    effected. But I think the children get the worst of it.... Those
    children that listened to their parents (patiently or impatiently)
    and waited for the parade.... Many use that time to have something
    to eat; discuss what they did that day; etc. They should not then
    have to lose their front row seats to someone elses kids. Or those
    kids themselves.... How would you feel if the adult with you kept
    shoveing you into places wehre you weren't supposed to be? I really
    felt soprry for those kids...
    
    We all pay roughly the same price to get in; some people don't
    think and prepare their time..... and therefore decide that
    everyone else around should suffer because they chose to wait for
    the last minute; but then expected that their kids should have a front
    row seat...
    
    Needless to say it was a real interesting wait for SpectroMagic that
    night!
    
    		- Annie
    
24.76No SmokingVISUAL::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoMon May 18 1992 18:247
    Unfortunately it's the lack of a "No Smoking" policy that will probably
    keep me from going over to PI with the kids this Summer.
    
    I always ask for no smoking in any WDW restaurant....but aren't some of
    them all non-smoking?
    
    Mike_who_doesn't_remember
24.77smokingSALEM::BERUBE_CWhere do you think you are? WDW!!Wed May 20 1992 18:0413
    Rep to <<< Note 24.76 by VISUAL::SCOPA "I'd rather be in Orlando" >>>

>    Unfortunately it's the lack of a "No Smoking" policy that will probably
>    keep me from going over to PI with the kids this Summer.

    Even though  they allow Smoking at PI, it was never a problem for me at
    either Adventures Club  or  Comedy Wharehouse, and I have eyes that are
    sensitive to heavy cigarette smoke and get watery and itchy.  It seemed
    like there was more smoke in the dance clubs.
    
    So if I were you, I wouldn't let that stop you from enjoying AC or CW.
    
    Claude
24.78That's better!VISUAL::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoWed May 20 1992 18:096
    Glad we cleared that up....I don't intend on going to the dance clubs.
    
    Thank you kind sir.
    
    Mike Scopa
    Non-Smoker
24.79they get my vote as wellSALEM::BERUBE_CWhere do you think you are? WDW!!Wed May 20 1992 18:1936
    Rep to <<< Note 24.75 by BROKE::LUND >>>

    Gee Annie now that  I  think  of  it, these would be near the top of my
    list as well.
    
>    Inconsiderate Smokers - Now this is just inconsiderate ones.

    I'll agree  with you on this one, I ran into those usually in the Parks
    or restaurants, where  they were lighting up in no smoking areas.  With
    the exception to the  night a Doctor's conferrence was having a private
    party at the Adventurers club 'till 9 pm (they were to busy lighting up
    and comparing notes on who owned what  ie.  BMW's, Timeshares etc, that
    the rest of the crowd were having a  hard  time enjoying the going on's
    with the cast members), we didn't run into any  inconsiderate  ones  at
    Pleasure island.  (Maybe that's why we didn't enjoy AC the first night)
    
>    Adults with children....

    Well  it depends if you mean young or real old  children  ;^).    While
    waiting  in  line  for  about  10 min., a rather rude Grandmother  type
    insulted Elaine  for  taking  her  place  at  the  rope  (next  to  her
    Children/Grandchildren) while she was sitting down at a bench 50' away.
    Well excuse me lady  by  I don't see a RESERVED SIGN in that spot.  Boy
    did she Tick Elaine and  Me  off, turn out half of their party was over
    at the bench or Gift shop  and  the rest of the party was suppose to be
    saving there seats.
    
    While waiting for Luminations to start, we picked our spot and sat down
    at the fence right away (no we sat  on the tar not the grass side), and
    mearely turned around and continued to sit on the ground while the show
    proceeded.  The family behind us actually thanked us for allowing their
    children standing behind  us,  and  themselves  standing  behind them a
    perfect view.
    
    Claude
    
24.80a little more infoSALEM::BERUBE_CWhere do you think you are? WDW!!Wed May 20 1992 18:2211
    Rep to <<< Note 24.77 by SALEM::BERUBE_C "Where do you think you are? WDW!!" >>>

>    It seemed like there was more smoke in the dance clubs.

    This should of read
    
    With the exception to the one night they were having a Private Doctor's
    Conference Party at AC,  it  seemed  like  there  was more smoke in the
    Dance CLubs.
    
    Claude
24.81M-I-C...SEE YOU REAL SOON!!CTOAVX::POLLAROWed Aug 19 1992 18:455
    FOR THE BEST THRILL RIDE: 	I cast my vote for Big Thunder Mountain but
    				I am sure once I try Splash Mountain it
    				will be a tie.  I am going down in October
    				I hope that Splash Mountain is open. 
    
24.82Where's the Monte CristoMKOTS3::MAHERASMon Apr 10 1995 22:012
    All I hear is raves about the Monte Cristos at the Magic Kingdom. Where
    are they sold?
24.83They Better Leave Dole Whip AloneWREATH::SCOPATue Apr 11 1995 17:065
    Alas they were taken off the menu in 1990...TWO WEEKS BEFORE I ARRIVED.
    
    Sob,
    
    Mike
24.84WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Wed Apr 12 1995 00:516
    
    I never thought the Monte Cristo's were that special actually...  not
    bad, but not great.
    
    I think Portabello is a great choice for first night, though...  the
    white garlic pizza appetizer is awesome.
24.85Where do I eat?!?!MKOTS3::MAHERASWed Apr 12 1995 15:105
    Okay, so where's the best place for a quickie lunch at the Magic
    Kingdom? I've got reservations at night for some really nice dinners,
    but I don't want to blow all our money on food. 
    Also, the Dole Whips are the best things available in all of WDW!
    Tina
24.86our usualNPSS::NPSS::BADGERCan DO!Wed Apr 12 1995 16:054
    we always eat at the castle.  It's as cheap as fast food, and you can
    set a time to go there [reservations].  
    ed
    
24.87Go with Crystal PalaceWREATH::SCOPAWed Apr 12 1995 19:155
    Well the lunches at the Diamond Horsehoe were always good but there's
    a show to go along with them. I've always liked the Crystal Palace for
    a quick lunch too. 
    
    Mike
24.88SALEM::HICKS_GWed Apr 12 1995 20:145
    
    Diamond Horseshoe lunches have been discontinued I believe, though you
    can still buy lunch from one of the street vendors nearby and bring
    that in with you during the show.  I believe I read that in the
    Unofficial Guide to WDW.
24.89Monte Cristo RecipeMKOTS3::MAHERASThu Apr 13 1995 23:3141
    Re: .83 I found the recipe for Disney's Monte Cristo sandwiches on the
    Internet here it is:
    Blue Bayou Monte Cristo Sandwich
    
    Blue Bayou Monte Cristo Sandwich
    from The Newsletter for Annual Passholders, Vol. 10, No. 1 (Spring
    1995)
    
    A tasty southern specialty that makes an everyday sandwich in to an
    occasion.  The light egg batter appeals to just about everyone and
    gives the
    dish a delightfully different accent.
    
    BATTER
    1 1/2 Cups - All-purpose flour, sifted
    1/4 Teaspoon - Salt
    1 Tablespoon - Baking powder
    1 1/3 cups - Water
    1 - Egg
    
    Sift flour, salt and baking powder together.  Add water to beaten egg,
    then
    add to flour mixture and mix well.  Set aside.
    
    
    SANDWICH
    1 Ounce - Sliced white meat of turkey
    1 Ounce - Sliced Swiss cheese
    1 Ounce - Sliced ham
    2 Slices - Egg Bread
    
    Make a sandwich using turkey first, then Swiss cheese, and then ham. 
    Cut
    sandwich into quarters using toothpicks to hold sandwich together.  Dip
    sandwich in egg batter and fry in 360 degrees canola oil until golden
    brown.  Remove toothpicks and sprinkle with powdered sugar.  Serve with
    raspberry jelly.
    
    Submitted to rec.arts.disney by David I. Tomita
    <david@pharm.medsch.ucla.edu>. 
    Enjoy!
24.90Ok, I'll ask... MKOTS3::TLAPOINTEMon Apr 17 1995 17:0512
    re: .89
    
    	`I know it's monday... but I've got to ask the dumb question of the
    day...
    
     what's "egg bread"?  Am I to assume that it means just bread with the
    egg batter?
    
    BTW: The MK01 cafe had a Monte Cristo sandwich the other week.  It was
    good but no where near as good as the one I've had at WDW.
    
    Tony
24.91DONVAN::FARINAMon Apr 17 1995 17:312
    Egg bread does have egg in the batter - it's generally a dense bread,
    good for soaking up batters.  Challah bread is a good egg bread.  --S