Conference koolit::disney

    Information I was wanted to know was:
    
    1.  Prices for everything so I would know what to expect
        i,e. average price for car rental, room outside and on property
    
    2.  Trip reports for this year.  ...what is closed, worst lines
         are..etc
    
    3.  Referrals of evening babysitters on the property that were
        used and how much?
    
    4.  When to book plane, train, hotel, tickets (buy now or there?)
        car rental.  In other words, the appropriate planning guide
        without having to read all of Barnum's book..
    
    5.  What to expect weatherwise each month of the year.
    
    6.  How many rides to expect to get on in one day.
        average I mean...
    
    7.  Last but no least, a topic on bad experiences with any of the
        above bookings like the horror stories I read on car rentals...
        these tend to be very helpful so I know what not to do etc.
    
    Hope this has helped
    
    and what you wanted for your survey.
    
    Nancy Dyer (34 days and counting)
    

    
    
    Info I would like to have available:
    
    1) Admission plans and their costs, advantages and disadvantages.
    
    2) Accommodations on and off property, cost, type of rooms, features
       that are included.
    
    3) Things to see and do, as well as when to see them and do them.
    
    4) Trip reports 
    
    5) Vacation Packages versus separate arrangements, advantages and
       disadvantages....
    
    Bonus:  The First-Timers Questions are great for information.
    
    2nd Bonus:  If a quarterly price list for accommodations and admissions
     		could be published it would save a lot of searching as well
    		as questions.  Weather info is important too.
    
    That's it for me,
    
    Thanks Mike,
    Alan

    I would like to have more specific prices instead of comments like
    "very expensive".  I was trying to figure how much money to plan to
    spend on meals, such as one of the dinner shows and all the comments
    say expensive, but what is expensive to someone may not be to me as I
    can easily spend $12.00 for two people to eat at Burger King here in
    the UK.
    
    THanks
    
    Paula

    I read most of the conference before our first trip to WDW in '90, and
    my biggest frustration was that much of the info was out of date and
    superseded later in the conference. So I guess my first request is for
    this conference to be archieved, and a new one be created. The next
    four things I'd want to see are:-
    
    1. Quantative information:-
       .1 Current Prices (mortals and Digital 'club' members) and what you
          get - e.g. with 7-day pass by planning ahead you could get
          "extra" days at "minor" attractions such as Typhoon Lagoon.
       .2 Process to get club card and discount vouchers - btw despite
          occasional grips I've read in the notes, each time I've applied 
          for a card the system has worked fine.
       .3 Weather conditions each month: temp, rainfall, sunshine, etc
       .4 Summary (possibly straight from Disney handouts) of each
          atttraction at WDW, Epcot, and MGM
       .5 Calendar of US vacation trends. E.g. from here in the UK I have no
          idea when US schools break for summer (and hence Disney will be
          busier?). There are bound to be other factors that influence
          attendance figures - what are they, and when do they happen?
       .6 A timetable. E.g. when do the parades take place? what time is
          the EPCOT firework display? etc
    
    2. Attraction-specific information (1 note on each?):-
       .1 Typical queue size relative to other attrations (e.g Short, Avg,
          Long, Take "War & Peace" to read while waiting). Actual lengths
          will vary throughout the year but I guess the relative popularity
          remains the same.
       .2 Suitability for kids. I have an 8 year old and a 5 year old, and
          some of the best advice I got from the conference was other people's
          experience of taking kids of similar ages.
    
    3. Eating at Disney
       .1 The options
       .2 How to book at EPCOT 
       .3 Popularity - e.g. which places need booking in advance
       .4 Actual prices
    
    4. Non-Disney Attractions
       We've been to Florida twice, and on neither trip did we spend more
       than 4 days (out of 14) at Disney - there's just so much else
       available. I think a note on each other place would be useful. To
       start the balling rolling, I suggest, Sea World, Cypress Gardens,
       Busch Gardens, Silver Springs, and Naples are "musts" and could add
       loads of others.
    
    That's it! 
    Gary - 41 days and counting

    Gary,  
    	This being a notesfile isn't structured to be a reference document.
    I would suggest that the best way to get the information that you need,
    and I agree that everything you've listed is good to know, is to buy
    either Steve Birnbaum's guide to WDW and/or the Unofficial Guide to
    WDW.  These two books will give you the answers to every question
    you've posed.
    
    
    Tom

When I first started reading this conference, the things I was most interested
in knowing were:

1. What all the abbreviations stand for (TTC, TL, BOG, CBR, EC, ...  some were
   obvious but some weren't)

2. A list of on-site accomodations price ranges, and brief description including
   location or nearest park (I got that from a price note I think, and I had 
   no idea that WDW had so many different on-site hotels.)

3. A list of all the different admissions option, what they include, and current
   price.  It took awhile to sort out the differences between the multi-day
   passes vs. super pass vs. super duper pass vs. BOG pass.  There is a recent
   note that summarizes these nicely, now.

4. On-site restaurant info.  Where to eat and where NOT to eat.  Rate the
   meal AND the entertainment and/or atmosphere separately.  A description
   of the menu, including selection and prices would be helpful.  (i.e. don't
   just say this restaurant is fantastic, because I do not like seafood and if
   that is mainly what's on the menu, then it won't be fantastic to me.)

5. Hints for first timers.  i.e. 1)pick the left line  2)buy a cheap cooler so
   you can have breakfast in your room to save time  3)skip Mission to Mars ...

    
    
    1. Using packages vs. doing it yourself... Also ease of staying onsite
    	rather than offsite...  Best places to stay for the value.
    
    2. What to avoid... what to make sure you see and do...  I already knew
    	about 20,000 leagues... It's the one ride I remember going on and
    	pretty much disliking...
    
    3. Things to do "away" from Disney for a day...
    
    4. Other peoples experiences...  Especially younger children...  You
    	know the kids are overly excited and "just want to have fun"... 
    	how to guage the time so that the kids are rested enough to 
    	have fun every day.
    
    5. General information about different attractions... best times to
    	go, etc...   I figure this notesfile is like reading Birmbaum's 
    	(somewhat)...   I find that Digital notesfiles are worth more
    	that buying some book on a place, mainly because there's more 
    	information about "real-life" experiences than what someone wants
    	to "feed" you in a book.
    
   ....
    
    
    6. Mike Scopa's trivia   ;-)

    I'm primarily interested in the information that is different from the
    genericized info that is in the guide books from either disney or the
    commercial books.  Also, futures information about what is happening
    and going to happen soon.  It's interesting to read the old notes in 
    this conf. before and after some of the new attraction openings.
    
    

When I first started reading the conference, I was planning my 6th trip to WDW.
I was primarily interested in knowing what was currently happening so my trip
would be better planned.

I like getting insider tips, trivia, etc. - (I miss Jim Hill's contributions).

I'd like to see more data about the other Disney Parks.