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Title:The Disneyphile's Disney File
Notice:This Conference can show you The World
Moderator:DONVAN::SCOPA.zko.dec.com::manana::eppes
Created:Thu Feb 23 1989
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:536
Total number of notes:19961

290.0. "1992 Trip Reports" by SALEM::BERUBE_C (Good Morning WDW!, in 113 days) Fri Jan 03 1992 14:39

    So you just got back from  your Disney vacation, and your having a hard
    time  setting your priorities, since you are  being  bombarded  by  the
    following pressures;
    
    At work:  You have 847 unread mail messages,  Your project slipped four
              weeks  in  the  one week you were away,   You  have  a  major
              customer presentation  tomorrow you have to prepare for,  and
              your boss wants to see you NOW and ...

    At Home:  You need  to do  the Laundry so you can have clothes to wear,
              Pay those bills you forgot, empty  that  frig  of rotten food
              and restock, Your Wife  wants a vacation with just YOU and NO
              KIDS and ...

    But first things first.
    
    Tell us all about the trip.  What's new in  the  park?    What's  being
    built?  What's open and what's closed?  How were the crowds?  What went
    well, and what didn't?  Did you see the Mouse?  
    
    Don't leave out any details.  We need to know.  We need our fix. 
    
    Please place  the  Disney  resort you visited in the title, ie WDW, DL,
    TDL or ED along with any other useful info
    
    Please also see 
    
        Note 182.* for hints on compiling your report.
        Note 227.* for discussion of reports  posted  in  this topic please
        Note  34.* for 1989 Trip Reports
        Note 183.* for 1990 Trip Reports
        Note 237.* for 1991 Trip Reports
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290.1A great time was had by bothVERGA::F_MCGOWANThu Jan 23 1992 09:5158
    This will a bit sketchy, but:
    
    We arrived Orlando mid-afternoon, Jan. 7. Delta Orlando hotel, on
    Major Blvd, directly across Kirkman from Universal Studios. I never
    got to Universal, but my wife went with her stepmother; said I hadn't
    missed all that much (I played golf with her Dad instead - and I
    "missed" a lot [mostly putts]). I also managed to miss all the crazies
    on I 4 (just like being on 128).
    
    The afternoon we arrived, we drove directly to EPCOT and bought 5-day
    passes - something of a commitment, not to mention a risk, if the
    weather got messy. Went right into EPCOT, which neither of us had seen
    before (my wife had been to Magic Kingdom a few years ago, when she was
    a travel agent - a 1-day "fam" trip). Rode Spaceship Earth and the Trip
    into Energy, where we found the dinosaurs entertaining, but overall it
    seemed like a 20-minute "infomercial" for Exxon. Eventually got over to
    the World Showcase, and spent a lot of time in "Mexico": had dinner,
    shopped, and took the boatride, which was fun. Wandered around a while,
    until it was time for "Illuminations," which was spectacular. Left
    the park at closing - had our only "crowd" experience waiting for the
    shuttle back to the parking lot (no, we didn't have any trouble finding
    the car - the Disney folks make a big point of reminding you to write
    down which row of which parking area you're in *before* you take the
    shuttle *into* the park).
    
    To make this short (it's threatening to become War And Peace): We used
    all 5 passes - three for EPCOT (managed to visit all 11 countries, had
    dinner at Mexico, Italy and Morocco, with a snack at Japan - best
    dinner was Morocco, but all were very good); one at MK (I loved Space
    Mountain, but my wife refused to go with me - she still hasn't
    recovered from the ride she took on her first visit!); and one for
    Discovery Island and MGM. Discovery Island is marvelous. We burned two
    rolls of film photographing the scarlet ibis, roseate spoonbills and
    other exotic creatures. We also went through a lot more film at MGM, at
    the Indiana Jones "Stunt Spectacular," which was good hokey fun.
    
    I also got in a round of golf at the Magnolia course, with Sue (I can't
    go on using the generic "my wife") riding shotgun in the golf cart,
    getting photos of my more spectacular shots (didn't need too much film
    for that!).
    
    We also managed to get in visits to non-Disney places (I hope this is
    okay to mention in this Notes Conference), which were enjoyable: Sea
    World and Cypress Gardens. 
    
    For me, the entire experience was much more fun than I could have
    believed - it was Sue's idea to go, and she had to do a little arm-
    twisting (okay, not a lot) to get me to agree. We picked a week when
    things weren't crowded (the only ride we "bagged" was Thunder Mountain,
    which had a 20-minute wait). Highlights were (for me): Space Mountain,
    Trip to Mars, Star Tours, the China and Canada 360 degree movies,
    amazing our waiter at Alfred's by conversing with him in Italian, A
    Small World (yes, I loved it), and a 7-iron that landed 3 feet from the
    pin...
    
    I know I left out a lot, but that's it for now.
    
    	Frank
290.2WDW 1/12 TO 1/20 WORK & MINI VACATIONUSMFG::RMATTIOLIThu Jan 23 1992 19:58145
Here is my trip report on WDW from 1/12 to 1/20.

I flew down on Sunday 1/12 in the p.m. to attend training from 1/13 to 
1/16. On two of the evenings I went to Pleasure Island with some 
friends and we had a blast. I enjoyed XFR Rock & Roll Club and checked 
out the Neon Armadillo, Cage (different type of club than I'm used 
to), The Adventurer's Club (just strolled through on our way to the 
New Year's Eve show and want to spend more time here on the next 
trip,) and Mannequins Dance Palace. The music and show at Mannequins 
was unreal and after the initial shock (lights, loudness, atmosphere) 
I got used to it and have decided that this is my favorite. 

The weather was cool for most of the week with most days in the high 
50's/low 60's.

On 1/16 I agreed to spend a little time at EPCOT with a friend who had 
never been. We did:
* SPACESHIP EARTH - no lines. * JOURNEY INTO IMAGINATION, CAPTAIN EO,
* WONDERS OF LIFE - "Body Wars", Cranium Command
* Shopping at Disney Traders
* Lunch at THE AMERICAN ADVENTURE
* NORWAY - MAELSTROM - skipped the movie because we had a bus to 
  catch. There were no lines and few people in EPCOT this day.

My wife flew down with a friend on Thursday 1/16 and then picked me up 
at my hotel for our stay at Port Orleans.  After checking in we 
decided to have dinner at Bonfamille's Cafe. My wife had Prime Rib and 
I had Chicken Creole. We both enjoyed our meal and the bill came to 
$20 because of 15% off for ordering before 7:00 p.m. Not a bad deal.

Friday 1/17 friends picked us up and we went to Universal for $22 each
because our friends got the Florida resident rate. ET was not 
  operating due to refurbishing.
* We went on "BACK TO THE FUTURE" twice in a row, no waiting. We loved it.
* EARTHQUAKE (not bad - 10 minute wait) 
* KONGFRONTATION (fair, 25 minute wait) 
* Saw BEETLEJUICE DEAD IN CONCERT featuring the GHOSTBUSTERS - neat   
  show.
* NICKELODEON STUDIOS TOUR - Nicely done, at the end of the tour one 
  gets to sit in on a so called pilot for a new show where kids 
  participate.
  At the end of the show they ask the kids if they enjoyed the show,
  if it should be on TV and what changes should be made.
* PRODUCTION TOUR (We liked MGM's Backstage Tour much better)
* "MURDER SHE WROTE" MYSTERY THEATER which is similar to MGM's Monster   
  Sound but you go through three separate rooms/theaters. We enjoyed   
  this.
* Checked out the Hard Rock Cafe - This place is huge.
* WILD, WILD, WILD, WEST STUNT SHOW - This was well done and quite   
  enjoyable. Prior to the show they had three guys dressed up as 
  the Marx brothers and they played around with the crowd.
  They pulled a man, a woman, and two kids from the crowd, all   
  unrelated, for a family photo - it was a riot! 
We then did a little shopping and then headed back to PO.
At PO we had pizza at the Sassagoula Floatworks And Food Factory.
Not bad.
We decided to use the Jacuzzi and spent quite a while soaking our
tired muscles and aching shins. We had some nice conversations going 
with some of the other PO guests. This was a relaxing end to a busy 
day.

Saturday 1/18 two other couples (who had never been to MGM) joined us 
for the MGM visit. One went with us in the a.m. and the other couple 
joined us later on in the a.m. 
*The first thing we went to was "VOYAGE OF THE LITTLE MERMAID"  
  (reference note 4.161).
* We then saw THE MAGIC OF DISNEY ANIMATION where there were a few   
  Saturday workers working on Disney's 31st Animated feature   
  "Aladdin". Looks like a winner from what I saw.
* STAR TOURS
* Lunch at the SCI-FI DRIVE-IN DINER. This was a lot of fun and we
  all had plenty to eat.
* The GREAT MOVIE RIDE - We had the Cowboy this trip
* MONSTER SOUND 
* Saw the BEAUTY AND THE BEAST show at the THEATER OF THE STARS.
  This was well done and is a must see!
* SUPERSTAR TELEVISION - They had a "Be Discovered" 
  contest whereby they chose a number of people from throughout    
  the day's MGM crowd to see who the semifinalist should be for the 
  4:00 p.m. show. This was the show we attended and we got to vote via 
  an applause meter who we thought should go to Hollywood to be cast 
  as an extra in a film or TV show. Also the finalist got to have her   
  handprints etc. put in cement in front of the GREAT MOVIE RIDE.
* MUPPET VISION 3D - We had not seen this last April so we decided to   
  give it a try. We enjoyed this show, it was very well done.
* INDIANA JONES STUNT SPECTACULAR - This show seemed to be a little     
  bit different from the last time we saw it (1989). 

We all headed back to PO because everyone was tired and the other
two couples were going to go to Pleasure Island later on.
After chow at the food court we all headed for the Jacuzzi. 
All three of us guys also tried out the pool which was at 82 degrees.
Nice pool with a giant Sea Serpent slide that kids would enjoy.

Sunday 1/19 was Epcot day and one of the other couples flew home. 
    It was raining, high in the 50's.
* WONDERS OF LIFE: "Body Wars", Cranium Command, "The Making of Me"
  (This was well done with Martin Short as the main character),
  Frontiers of Medicine.
* WORLD OF MOTION
* NORWAY and MAELSTROM.
* Lunch at Alfredo's - Two of the crew had salad, Manicotti and   
  desert. Two of us had Minestrone soup, Ravioli, Salad, Peroni Beer   
  Canoli's, Espresso and/or Capuccino. It hit the spot given the cool damp day.
* The American Adventure - This was the first time we got to see this   
  and we came away impressed.
* Shopping in the United Kingdom.
We headed back to PO and rested. We then hit the Marketplace for some
more shopping. Grabbed something to eat at the PO food court and then
hit the sack.
 
Monday 1/20 was travel day. We slept in and had a nice leisurely
breakfast at Bonfamilie's. I had the French Toast and sausage.
It was rather tasty and it filled me up for the trip home.
We did some shopping at the Belz factory and then headed for the
airport. The flight home was uneventful except for a minor hold
over Providence.

Comments/Observations: 
* We had a great time on our mini vacation.
  We got to see some things that we didn't or couldn't see with our 
  three young sons last April and we did not have to worry about
  them. 
* Although the weather was warmer than here at home I would not
  plan a family vacation in Orlando in January because of the weather.
* The crowds were not much to speak of. 
* Port Orleans is a very nice facility and had a relaxing atmosphere. 
  However, the rooms seemed to be noisy as we could hear the other 
  rooms bathrooms and kids running around outside the next level up. 
* Next trip we hope to stay at the GF again.
* Pleasure Island was enjoyed immensely.  
* We will take the kids to Universal to see Nickelodeon etc. next 
  trip.
* The Back to the Future" ride is one of our favorites.
* Received a Disney Vacation Club book with some nice pictures in it.
  The DVC construction is coming along as is Dixie Landings.
* One of the bus drivers said that Christmas and New Years the place
  was packed and that they were turning people away. He also stated that
  given that the 20 tax free years are up he expects the ticket prices
  to go up!         
    
    Ron                      
    


290.31/12-1/20 TRIP ADDENDUMUSMFG::RMATTIOLITue Jan 28 1992 14:3617
    Here are a couple of observations and cautions that I should have
    included in my trip report.
    * Per one of the bus drivers, Disney Security now runs radar and
      writes tickets. Has this been discussed in here before?
      I witnessed a Chevy Suburban Police/Security type vehicle on Disney
      property just past one of the sets of lights at one of the four way 
      intersections writing someone up. Redlight violation? 
    * Sheriff Department Mustangs sitting in the median strips awaiting
      speeders. Observed one of the Deputies pull out into the highway
      traffic, lay down a good 15 feet of rubber and catch a violator
      in quick fashion.
      So, please watch your speed etc. You don't want to spoil your
      fun by getting a ticket.                           
      
    Ron
    
       
290.4WDW trip, 16-Jan-1992 to 20-Jan-1992KAHALA::PRESTONFri Jan 31 1992 18:25327
290.5Beach Club ResortNYEM1::MAKMon Feb 10 1992 16:3747
    
    My father, stepmother and 3 brothers (14, 13, and 9) went to WDW for
    the Christmas/winter break from school.  
    
    Max, the husband, and I couldn't go for a few reasons all of which
    disappeared right before Christmas.  By then we could not get
    reservations.  I was very upset.  I missed my family and wished I could
    share the experience with them.  I am 13 and 16 years older than my
    brothers, and really wanted this special chance to "play" at WDW.  
    
    Anyway, we settled for borrowing a car from my Dad to help relieve the
    schleping during the holiday time.  
    
    The day after Christmas, we went to repark the car (Alternate-side
    rules), BUT....the car was gone!  STOLEN!  
    
    I offered my father money to help replace the car!  He wouldn't take
    any of it, but then he said...."Why not see if anyone cancelled their
    reservations and come down here thru New Years?  That is just the
    pick-me-up we all need!"  WHAT A GUY!  HE'S GREAT!
    
    We were lucky enough to find a plane with openings that very afternoon! 
    We found a room in the hotel, my family was in -- finally, luck was
    with us.  
    
    It was great!  We stayed at the Beach Club Resort -- five minute walk
    to EPCOT!!  My family was on the World Package from the Disney Club. 
    That includes all meals and most recreational facilities, plus a Beauty
    and the Beast Lithograph through '92 and a large basket of goodies with
    a large Mickey stuffed toy.  Paying for the meals up front made a great
    difference!  They had a ball with it.  The boys could order anything on
    the menu, it really became a dream vacation, because they could do
    anything they wanted.  Water-skiing, horseback riding, golf....they
    made sure they got their money's worth.  In fact, I think they "did"
    more than they spent.  My step-mother figured out that it would have
    been hard to spend less if they had not gone with the World package and
    knowing up front what the total cost would be made it easier to relax!  
    
    Even though Christmas is supposed to be so busy, we didn't have as bad
    a time with the lines as we expected.  I guess I imagined something
    worse than the reality.  Max and I didn't have time to see everthing
    anyway, so our theory was, Hey, More to do next time!  
    
    Moral of the story is... Next time you borrow something and loose it,
    don't let it get you down!  Go to Disney World!!!!
    
    
290.6Jan 28 - Feb 3 TripCIVIC::RANUCCIWed Feb 12 1992 16:4165
    Here's a few notes from my recent trip:
    
    We flew Delta.  The kids are catered to on this flight.  They get all
    the "gifts" and much better meals than the adults.  The food was so bad
    one stewardess made a comment.  I ate off of my nephew's plate.  
    
    The poly was not as impressive as it was 6 years ago.  It looks old as
    does the contemporary (from the outside).  Our room was neat and clean
    but, nothing special.  The bathroom was interesting.  I won't get into
    that.  We could hear the Television from the next room.  It was on all
    night.  Oh, the check-in process was much too slow.  The person at the
    reservation desk was so bizarre.  We didn't receive Disney dollars as
    our package indicated. They do something else instead.  I won't give it
    away.
    
    The weather on our first day was humid.  I did pack shorts and wore
    them.  We had one more day like that and the rest was sweatshirt weather.
    
    The lines at MK were short except for Saturday.  It was packed. 
    Dumbo's flight line was wrapped all over the place.  Luckily, we had
    gotten there early and headed straight for the attractions my nephew
    liked on previous days.  If you want to see the characters, my
    suggestion would be to get on the Train and head for Mickey's starland
    when the park opens.  All the characters were standing around.  They were
    chasing Matt for attention.  We also went straight in to Mickey's 
    dressing room to see Mickey. We were all alone.  Matt had the chance
    to take pictures with all the characters but, only wanted to be with
    Mickey.  Another note on the MK - If you are bringing a small child 
    (Matt is 4), beware that Snow White's adventure and Mr. Toad's wild
    ride is scary and by no means cute.  
    
    I had never been to DW with a child before but, seeing it through his
    eyes I felt there wasn't alot for him.  Probably, is the reason for 
    Mickey's Starland.  Alot of the attractions are loud.  Matt had his
    hands blocking his ears during the 3:00 parade and many rides.  I
    even thought the sound could be turned down a notch or two.  
    
    I think MGM was the most fun for all.  We saw the Little Mermaid show.
    It was worth the 45 minute wait.  I enjoyed it - not just for kids.  The
    mermaid's singing voice sounded exactly like the one on the movie.  
    Muppet 3D was fun.  We saw the Ninja Turtles.  The first show is at 
    10:30 and it creates a crowd well in advance.  I had to put Matt on my
    shoulders to see.  He loved it.  Worth it.  We also saw the
    Dinosaurs from the TV show.  This was a big waste.  We started standing
    near the area where they do their show.  As time went on we were
    cramped and irritable.  Matt wasn't thrilled about another loud
    performance so, I took him to get popcorn and said forget it.  Well,
    The dinosaurs come out and we can see them perfectly from the popcorn
    stand and with just the right amount of sound.  They perform on this
    float-type thing  that has them above your head.  This float moves
    and here they come right pass our park bench.  I was even blown a kiss
    by one of them.  The moral of the story is don't waste your time
    getting frustrated trying to get the perfect seat or location.  With
    this attraction and others - there are no bad seats.  Anyway, the
    peformance was brief and nothing to speak of.
    
    Typhoon was closed "for our future enjoyment".
    
    The perfect ending to our vacation was seeing Mickey and Minnie at
    the airport.  Matt was able to say goodbye to Mickey one last time.
    
    This isn't a full report but, just a few comments that I mentioned to
    others planning future trips.  If you want more info let me know.
    
    Susan
290.7February Trip ReportFPTVX1::ABRAMSMickey said to say hi!Tue Feb 18 1992 16:48269
-----------------Trip Report February 8-14, 1992----------------

This is a trip report for my brief visit, alone, on a part business/part 
pleasure trip to the World.  I stayed at the Radisson Lake Buena Vista.
I spent two days in the parks to visit my personal favorites, and some
other time wandering around the hotel properties.

Before the play by play, some general announcements:

Hotel:  The Radisson was conveniently located just outside of the 
entrance to Disney Village on Palm Parkway East of Rte 532, just north 
of Crossroads plaza on the right.  It has a good corporate DEC rate of 
just $52 per night plus 5.20 tax.  The restaurant is open only for a
typical buffet breakfast.  There is a decent pool, jacuzzi, water slide, 
and a lounge.  The gift/news shop was open sporadically.

Car:  AVIS DEC Rate rental, $187 for one week.  

Air:  USAir three week advance, round trip $343.50.  Change planes at 
	Charlotte.

Passport:	Bought a 4 day since I had to split my visit.  I used
	two days and the other two are my incentive to come back again
	soon!  That, and the five rolls of film I took!

Schedule:
	Sat 2/8 Travel, Kennedy Space Center
	Sun 2/9 EPCOT Center 
	Mon 2/10 -- Wed 2/12  Training Seminar
	Thu 2/13 Magic Kingdom & MGM
	Fri 2/14 Relax and Movie, travel

	All Week: Surveyed New Hotel Properties, wandered around, 
	learned and mapped the roadways of the world. 

Weather:	A bit cool early in the week, I needed a jacket
    all day Sunday at EPCOT.  Warmed up enough to use the pool
    in the evening later in the week.  Friday was stellar: Sunny
    and upper 70's.  Dangerous fog in the mornings causing lots
    of auto accidents.

Crowds:  Quite light.  Most everything was walk-right-in.  Only 
exceptions were high-draw, such as Space Mountain, Imagination, and 
Voyage of the Little Mermaid show.

20th Anniversary:  Very low-key compared to the 15th anniversary.
They must be saving it for the big 2-5.  There's some decorations
but that's all.  I remember at the 15th there were prizes (a car given
away every day -- we saw one winner!) and a song blaring out all
the loudspeakers (Fif-teen years... and we're havin' a party!) and
a big birthday cake sculpture at the entrance to each park.  I was
expecting much more!

Saturday 2/8---------------------------------------------------------

Arrived an hour behind schedule, in the rush of arriving vacationers.
Waited 30 minutes (no joke) for luggage to arrive at claim area.  Got
into a 45 minute car rental line.  Usually I am reserved express, but
since I was using an upgrade certificate I was told I had to do a 
regular check-in.

They lied.

20 minutes into the line, I got someone's attention and told them I was 
usually on the express list.  I was.  My car was waiting, with the 
contract already prepared.  It took two minutes for them to pick a 
better car (my upgrade) and I was off in a big ol' Cutlass Ciera.

Down the overpriced Bee Line Tollway to Cape Canaveral and the NASA 
Kennedy Space Center.  Saw the IMAX film "The Dream Is Alive" for about 
the sixth time.  Bought the VHS tape, but I know it won't be the same.

I saw a couple in the gift shop with name tags on that said "Rochester, 
NY" so I said hi.  They said they were really from a small town east of 
Rochester, and I said so am I -- turns out they live a few miles up the 
road from me.  The area we live in is just a couple of very small towns. 
What are the odds?

They have a life size mockup of a shuttle you can walkup into-- totally
cool, far out, maximum extreme neato.  The info desk said a launch of
an Atlas rocket was planned for that evening, so I went to the 
recommended viewing site but the launch was not to be that evening (see
Kennedy topic).  Drove back to Lake Buena Vista to check in.

Sunday 2/9-----------------------------------------------------------

Up early, and to EPCOT parking at 8:30am.  I noticed special "Green
lots" which appear to be set aside for National Car renters.  Anyone 
know about these?  They're at each of the theme park areas.

Bought my passport, and waited for the rope to drop at 9am.  Went
straight back to world showcase to have breakfast in Norway.  Then, a
highlight tour of the park. Norway, China (The Wonders of China Film),
a walk through Germany, Morocco, Italy, Japan, then France (Impressions
de France Film). Considered the Canada Film, but it was 20 minutes till
next one.  So I decided to be impatient and move on (Hey, I'm on
vacation alone, I can be impatient if I want.) 

Out international gateway for my first look at the Beach and Yacht Club 
Resort.  Outstanding job!  Applause, applause.  I think this is the best 
they have done on a resort yet. The variety of facilities and the common 
areas, especially the pools, are spectacular.  There is a also a Health 
club with really reasonable rates.

Back into EPCOT to see my favorites in FutureWorld.  Some people waved
to the monorail as it passed overhead, and it honked back!  Did you know
it had a horn?  Overheard from a family that didn't buy the Birnbaum
Book, trying to interpret the guide map:  "Where does it START?"

To The Land, for the "Symbiosis" Film (in case you haven't figured, the
films are my favorites) and then to Body Wars, and my all-time favorite,
Horizons. Walked through Communicore exhibits; played computer games on
UNISYS computers (my wife works for UNISYS). Had lunch at Sunrise
Terrace, which has been transformed into a Pizza & Pasta place.  One
slide, salad, soda for $7.50. 

Up to the lagoon to stake out a spot for the afternoon show of 
"Surprise in the Skies."  Great show!  I waited 30 minutes to ensure I
had a primo camera spot on the bridge by Mexico for a 15 minute show,
but it was worth it.  For an unusually undignified picture of Mickey
Mouse, wait around a few minutes and keep your camera trained in the
USA Plaza across the lagoon...

A final walk around,  and trip through Spaceship Earth, and I'd had
enough for the day.  I've seen Illuminations plenty of times, so I
decided to seek dinner elsewhere.


Monday - Wednesday 2/10-2/12-----------------------------------------

These days I was in my DEC seminar on Advanced C Programming and Data 
Structures.  Good course, but the weather kept getting better and warmer
... I spent evenings driving the roads to see what's new and learn my 
way around like I lived there.  Some restaurant plugs:

The Crab House		Palm Parkway just north of Crossroad Plaza, turn 
		right on Palm Parkway go to the back corner of this plaza.
		Try the garlic crabs!

PortoBello Yacht club	On pleasure island in WDW.  Outstanding!

Narcoosee's		On the waterfront at the Grand Floridian in WDW.
		Best Iced Tea in the world.  Best place to watch a
		thunderstorm.  Best place to run up a huge tab if you're
		on a Disney Vacation Meal Plan!

Charlie's Lobster House		In the Mercado Plaza on International
		Drive, exit I-4 just north of the Bee Line.  Crab legs 
		in huge portions!

Thursday 2/13--------------------------------------------------------

Up early, off to the Magic Kingdom.  Parked at EPCOT since EPCOT closes 
later and I figured I would return there for the end of the day.  Parked 
at 8am to be in the second row of cars, walked to Monorail and went to 
TTC, then to Magic Kingdom.  Spaceship Earth was shrouded in the dense 
morning fog -- A spectacular sight.  I hope the picture comes out.

I was the third person admitted to the MK other than the pre-admitted
vacation plan breakfast! It's now 8:30. I tooled right on up to the
Crystal Palace, the best place to catch breakfast in the MK before they
open the ropes to the themed areas.  I lolled over coffee and fruit
while everyone else formed a mob at the rope.  Just as they release the
rope I waltz out of the Crystal Palace. Kind of makes you feel like you
own the place when you know the routine! 

Off on a circle of highlights.  I visited Pirates, Big Thunder Mountain 
RR, marveled at the almost done Splash Mountain.  I was there a little 
over a year ago and there was nothing.  Now, a mountain.  Almost done, 
at that.  They're moved the Railroad Station to the north, and build 
splash mountain where it was.  The train goes through a tunnel in splash 
mountain.  Then to see the ORIGINAL COUNTRY BEAR JAMBOREE! Yay!  It was 
great to see it again!  C'mon, everybody, you know the words...

    Remember Gomer, Wendell & Henry, Liver Lips McGraw, Trixie,
    Swingin' Teddy Bara; Bunny, Bubbles, and Beulah; Big Al, and
    Sammy the raccoon hat?  And the band: Zeke, Zeb, Fred, Ted, and
    a bear named Tennessee!

    "We wrote the lyrics and we also wrote the words..."
 
    "I got a woman, she got me..."

    "Mama don't whoop.. little Beuford, mama don't stomp on his head...
     Mama don't whoop.. little Beuford, I think you should shoot him
     instead!"

    "Tears will be the chaser.. for your wine.."

    "... All the guys that turn me on... turn me down..."

    "Y'all come up and see me..."

Sorry, got distracted.

Then off to the Haunted Mansion.  I tried to count the 999 spirits (but
there's room for ONE MORE...) they say haunt the place, but I lost count
at 978.... yeah right.  In case you decide to become the 1000th spirit,
note the "Intrusion Detection" system at the exit.  It's the first panel
you see as your ghostmobile reaches the moving walkway.

Okay, onward.  Peter Pan is closed for refurbishment, for your info.
Trounced into Tomorrowland, waited 45 min for Space Mountain.  Ack! 
Everything else was walk-on!  Then the WEDway (I want one of those!) and
finally the Carousel of Progress. Sing along! Trivia:  I can't remember
the phrase marked with a "?"...

    Now is the time, Now is the best time, 
    Now is the best time of your life!
    Life is a prize, live every minute,
    Open your eyes, and see how you win it!
    Yesterday's memories may sparkle and gleam,
    Tomorrow is still but a dream.
    Right here and now
    ?
    The world's forward marching and you're in the parade!

More trivia: can you remember the names of the four dogs?

Went and got the Camera from the lockers, rode the Railroad back to
Frontierland to take pictures of Splash Mountain under construction. 
Got my Citrus Swirl, and perused main street.  Something 
new:  Fresh Fruit Stands here, and at the other parks! 

	Aside:  Visited the vacation club visitor's
	center, got my name added to the computer list to
	get more info.  I like the idea, but it sounds as
	though the minimum investment will result in more
	points than my wife and I along can use in a year
	since we travel in the low seasons.  By my
	estimate, it would give us 3-1/2 weeks of studio
	time.  We couldn't use it!  Now off to... 

MGM.  Monorail back to EPCOT to change film and drop off my jacket.  
It's warm now.  Bus to MGM.  Again, a circle tour of my favorites:  Star 
Tours, Great Movie Ride, Animation.  Animation is working on "Aladdin" 
now.  In the film intro with Walter Cronkite and Robin Williams, Robin 
claims his favorite Disney movie is Peter Pan.  Long before they cast 
Hook, too!  My favorite line: "Hey everybody, I'm a corporate symbol!"
The best new thing since my last visit to MGM is that food sources have 
been greatly expanded.  The Soundstage, Commissary, and Sci-Fi Drive-in 
are all new since I was there in Fall '90.

Tried to see the Voyage of the Little Mermaid but the line was TWO shows
long, at least 45 min.  I saw a part of the Beauty and the Beast show;
it's basically a reenactment of the movie.  Since there was no Sorcery
in the Sky show, I decided to boogie back to EPCOT.  I took a last walk
around World Showcase, ate dinner, and watched the sun set.  All in all,
a great day. 

Friday 2/14 Valentine's Day------------------------------------------

It's a good thing I'm coming home today; it's bad enough I'm on vacation
without my wife!

Got up late...like 9am.  Packed, checked out.  Went to breakfast buffet 
at the Olive Garden on the corner.  Drove over to the Beach & Yacht Club 
parking area, found a nice people-watching spot and relaxed and read my 
book.  About 1pm, went over to the Pleasure Island Cinemas to catch an 
opening day show of Wayne's World, the movie.  Silly, inane, and very 
amusing.  Nice cinema... takes credit cards if you're bringing the whole 
family, and the seats' armrests have drink holders in them!

A slow drive back to the airport, and a late lunch which claimed to be 
pizza from the airport food court.  Off to home... Now let's see... 
where should I go on vacation in September...

Regards,
Bill
290.8WDW February 1992NSCRUE::WILABYThu Mar 05 1992 20:5141

	My husband, three-year old daughter and I flew from Colorado 
	to Orlando on the 13th of February.  This was our first
	visit to WDW.   

	Did not rent a car, instead we used Mear's Motor Shuttle to get 
	from airport to the Grand Floridian; cost for this shuttle was 
	about $30.00. Although we did not utilize them for a return trip, 
	they will pick you back up and take you to the airport when your 
	stay is over.
	
	Checked into the Grand Floridian early that evening.  What
	a spectacular place.  The service and attention of everyone
	from guest services to the bell"men" was terrific.  All of
	WDW was so clean, but the Grand Floridian seems to take it to 
	another dimension.

	While at the G.F. we enjoyed the wide range of choices to eat at
	the hotel; everything from quick food at the game room, to fine
	expensive dining.  Lots of Disney characters walking around the
	place for children's autographs.  Especially liked the $1500 house
	account set-up for us and the GF charge card to go with it.  The
	only place I found that did not accept the GF charge card was a 
	pastry shop in Norway in Epcot.

	From the 13th through the 19th (the last day of our stay) the
	weather was in the 70's, no rain.  The crowds were light; no more
	than 10 minute wait for anything we wanted to do.  The most crowded
	place, outside of Pleasure Island, was Typhoon Lagoon.  But only
	5 minute waits for the different slides.

	We had 5-day passes.  Staying at the GF allowed us to split the day
	between 'lands'; for instance we spent one morning in Epcot, napped
	at the hotel just after lunch, and then did MGM or MK in the afternoon.
	One time we even returned to Epcot in the evening for Illuminations.

	Spectromagic parade was very well attended.  People, us included,
	were staking-out their curbside places two hours in advance.  We felt
	it was well worth it.
	
290.9EuroDisney - Sneak PreviewNEWOA::PALKMon Apr 06 1992 13:4351
    
    Just got back form a preview look at EuroDisney . The park was only
    open during the evening from about 7.00 - 12.00 and so we had to
    rush around to try to see everything (impossible). Please bear in
    mind I know very little about Disney and the structure of this conference    

    The outskirts of the park are not yet complete, much of the golf 
    course is mud and the roads were still being finished . However
    once we reached the hotel area everything looked superb .  We
    stayed in the hotel Cheyenne which was a whole western town, each 
    seperate building being a collection of hotel rooms . The bar was the 
    red garter saloon, a real spit and sawdust place complete with lasso 
    racks and gun tooting staff. At 45 Francs for a JD and Coke tho 
    it was a little expensive.

    The hotel rooms themselves were more than adequate, perhaps about
    four star standard, although we had no room service and the mini
    bar was unavailable.
	
    There was a frequent bus service to the park itself or it was about a 
    ten minute walk. I recommend the walk, that way you get to see the 
    amazing Newport Bay Hotel and lake, and the Santa-Fa buildings.

    Outside the park were various attractions, restaurants and bars
    and many souviner shops. From there after a few minutes walk under the
    Disney hotel and turnstiles we entered the main street of the park. The 
    whole place was just so clean and detailed, it really was like visiting 
    a dream land . Not once did I see anything that looked out of place . 

    At the end of main street was Sleeping Beauty's castle and the other
    side of that lay the three seperate lands , FantasyLand,Frontier Land and
    a futureland.

    I won't describe in detail what we discovered there, I couldn't find
    the words to describe it adequatly but suffice to say the rides were great
    and visually stunning, Thunder mountain was terrifying and the procession
    was great.
    
    If anyone is thinking of going I thoroughly recomend it, but it will
    be expensive, my hotel room will be over 100 quid a night and a day
    pass is 23 quid. Souviners are also extortinate and the bars just out
    of the park are not cheap (30F for a bud.)Also when the park actually 
    opens to the public the queues will be incredible. 
    The specially set aside queuing areas are massive.
    
    But don't worry about the cash , just go you'll never forget it.
    
    If anyone wants a photocopy of the map and guide to atrractions let me 
    know and I'll mail it to you.

    	Chris.                     
290.10Trip report EuroDisneyUTROP1::SCHUURMANS_HFri Apr 24 1992 11:3950
    Short trip report on my visit to EuroDisney on April 20th thru 22nd.
    
    All attractions used in the advertisements were operational.
    Rides (in my favorite order and I took them all several times):
    - Big thunder mountain
    - Pirates of the Carribean
    - Star tours
    - Peter Pan
    - Phantom Manor (=Hanted Mansion)
    - Captain EO
    - Snow White
    - Pinnochio
    - Visionarium (360 degrees projection)
    - It's a small world
    - Keel Boat
    - Autopia (small railguided cardrive)
    - EuroDisneyland Railroad (not spectacular though very funny thru the
    announcements from the (taped) speaker.
    
    Be sure to visit the park at least TWO days. There are less attractions
    than at WDW and/or WDL but the queues are MUCH longer. After 11.30am
    waiting time can be as much as 1.30h!! (this goes for ALL the rides!!)
    
    The hotel area, situated next to the Park itself is worthwhile
    visiting.
    Have a look at Hotel Cheyenne (western style) and Hotel New York ("New
    York" skyline).
    Also take a short look at "Festival Disney" opposite the entrance and
    take a walk thru this assembly of shops and restaurants to "Lake Buena
    Vista". Then enjoy the sight of the Newport Beach Hotel.
    My personal recommendation is a stay a the "Hotel Cheyenne".
    
    A dinner at the "blue lagoon restaurant" is another must (located
    inside the "Pirates of the Carribean--order the blue lagoon sampler:
    delicious!
    
    Statistics:
    3 days passeport: 525FF
    1 mickey icecream: 15FF
    Blue Lagoon Sampler: 150FF
    Mickey character in Disney store: 125FF
    Present # employees: 7200 (50% of desired staff)
    Visitors on monday 20th: 62.000
    Opening hours: 09.00am - 09.00pm (weekends 10.00pm incl fireworks)
    
    
    
    Enjoy your stay!!!!
    
    Hans
290.11DECWindows warningSALEM::BERUBE_CWhere do you think you are? WDW!!Wed May 06 1992 11:1011
    Ok All, here's the report I promised.
    
    I went, I saw, I did, I enjoyed, I came Back, that's all
    
    
    Ok I'm haveing fun with you all, this reply is merely a warning for you
    DECwindows Notes type, the folowing reply is some 640+ lines long.
    
    enjoy
    
    Claude
290.12WDW - April 25th thru May 3rd '92SALEM::BERUBE_CWhere do you think you are? WDW!!Wed May 06 1992 11:12646

                  Berube Family April 25-May 3rd WDW Trip Report

    
    WHO: Elaine, Gregory and Claude Berube
    
    WHERE: Port Orleans, Bldg 5 courtyard view.
    
    HOW: USAir, Manchester NH to Orlando
    
    DISCLAIMER #1:    The expressed views herein are those of Claude Berube
    the  individual  noter and  not  those  of  Claude  Berube  Disney.Note
    Moderator or those of any other Disney.Note Moderators.  ;^)

    DISCLAIMER #2:  If you are a new noter about to go to WDW for the first
    time and thought  you  could use my trip report as a guide on efficient
    use of the 5  Day  Super  Pass, DON'T.  As you'll see from reading this
    report I did rather little  of  the MK, and little of World Showcase at
    Epcot, but do use any hint/tips  I  place  in the report.  For the most
    part we did a casual walk from  ride  to ride, and didn't follow any of
    the  itineraries  found  in the various guides, any  appearance  of  is
    merely coincidental honest.  I was more tired writing/reading  the trip
    report.  ;^)
        
    OK now on to the gory details;
    
    
  Day 1 - Saturday April 25th
    
    Woke up with the alarm at 4 am, meet the in-laws and headed over to the
    Manchester  Airport (they offered to keep our car at their house  while
    we were gone, saving on airport parking fee)
    
    Got  at the USAir counter  at  5:30am,  got  another  surprise  when  I
    mentioned I had a refund coming, turn out the person in Syracuse NY put
    me down for the wrong fare, $310  vs  the  $260 I was quoted for, so my
    refund wasn't as large.  I'll be writing  to  them  to see if I can get
    anymore out of them, after all it doesn't hurt.  Even though I was glad
    to get a refund after all, I was quoted $260  (it's  the  principal you
    know)
    
    Other  than  that,  the  flight was rather uneventful, with a slight 20
    min.   delay leaving Philadelphia.  We arrived at Orlando, got the bags
    and the rental  car  from Avis and was on our way by 12:30pm.  Was able
    to catch about an hours worth of sleep on the plane.
    
    Why is it that the favorite color  for rental cars in Florida is White?
    with the Chevy Corsica a favorite among them?    Didn't take the Berube
    family too long to  solve  the  problem of finding the car after a long
    day in the park and doing the Comedy Warehouse routine of searching for
    it.  HINT I'm not telling what I did ;^), so that I'll still be able to
    find my car the next time I go.
    
    Headed over to Kennedy Space Center, Did the 2:15 Red Bus Tour, saw the
    Endeavor out on launch pad 39B being readied  for  its maiden flight on
    May 4th and the 4:25 Imax theater presentation of 'The Dream is Alive'.
    KSC is well worth the side trip if you can afford a half day or so away
    from  Disney.   HINT:  Do it early in the morning  and  head  over  for
    Daytonna for the afternoon and make a day of it.
    
    After doing the Bus tour and Imax, along with the museum while  waiting
    to  do both, decided we had enough of KSC and headed back to  WDW,  got
    stuck in  a  traffic  jam  on SR528 just prior to Orlando International
    Airport.  Finally arrived at Port Orleans @6:45 pm, checked in, had the
    bags brought up to  the  room  and went over to Bonfamille cafe and had
    supper.  Especially liked the  Chicken  Breast  Creole, the house salad
    was superb.  After supper Greg and I decide to take a late evening swim
    in the pool while Elaine decided to sleep off the day.
    
    
  Day 2 - Sunday April 26th

    Woke up early and did the food  court  at  PO  for  breakfast.    Drove
    through Dixie Landings and CBR to check them out while we had some time
    to kill prior to heading over to MGM.   Both  DL and CBR are spread out
    the only difference is that CBR is around a lagoon  while DL is on both
    sides of a canal and DL has a sit down restaurant  while  CBR  doesn't.
    My preference of the three would be PO, followed by DL then CBR.
    
    Got to MGM at 8:30 and was entertained by Sarge and Sid.   Sarge is one
    hell  of  a riot, while Sid does some impression of Bing Crosby, George
    Burns among others.
    
    Did  Star  Tours  first  thing, rode in the back (longest line of the 5
    times Greg  and  I did Star Tours was 10-15 min.  throughout the trip),
    this is one of my favorite rides for the trip.
    
    Muppet Vision 3D  was next (hint don't be afraid to look at the back of
    the theater when you  here  Swedish  Chef,  great  routine).  Overall a
    great 3D movie and well  worth the trip.  Can't really add much to this
    that hasn't already been said, except  don't be afraid to check out the
    pre-show area, some of the things are  rather  cute  and no so obvious,
    like this end up, being on the bottom  (I  won't tell you where this is
    you'll just have to find it on your own)
    
    Went  over to Honey I Shrunk the Kid movie  Set  Adventure  and  had  a
    blast, a lot of older children were having fun if you know what I mean.
    
    Next  onto  Inside the Magic Special Effects and Soundstage Tour,  they
    were in the process of redoing the set for Mickey Mouse  Club.    Great
    photo's  of  the  volunteers  in  the  water  tank  sequence of special
    effects.   I won't say what happens just in case one of you gets picked
    ;^).

    Next was the  Backstage  Studio  Tour, had to change rolls of film just
    prior to Catastrophe Canyon  and threaded the film wrong and missed out
    on pictures (don't fret did it again on another day ;^)).  Got to see a
    portion of a set used in the making of Honey I blew Up the Kid.
    
    Next was the Great Movie Ride,  (right side/western).  Overall this was
    your typical Disney Audio-Animatronic ride, with the Wizard Of Oz scene
    being the exception.  The Wicked Witch of  the  West was just great, so
    this is version 3 or whatever it's called of  the AA's and one of three
    in  existence?  I couldn't get over the fluid movements  of  the  Witch
    just superb.  Follow the yellow brick road....
    
    After GMR we waited and did Beauty and the Beast stage show.  This show
    is well done and Elaine couldn't get over the costumes for it.  I think
    it  was mentioned here before, but this appears to be the only show  at
    Disney  were you can have a bad seat, stay away from the right side  in
    the  back  or you'll have a portion of the show being blocked by a tree
    and the shop next to it.
    
    Left MGM and headed  over  to  the  Grand  Floridian  for the afternoon
    break, rented water sprites for  the  3  of  us  and  toured Seven Seas
    Lagoon and Bay Lake.  Hint:  if your going to do this I suggest scoping
    out  the lake first notice which color  water  sprites  are  going  the
    fastest and head over to that hotels marina  and rent one there.  I got
    stuck with a slow one while Elaine and Greg  had faster ones.  Swam for
    a while at the GF pool and had some Pina Coladas.  Disney makes some of
    the best frozen drinks (alchohol or non) I've tasted.

    Headed over to Narcoocee's for supper, Elaine and I had the  T-bone for
    two while Greg had swordfish, both were excellent.
    
    Off  to  the MK, Did Pirate's, Country Bear (Blood on the Saddle,  Yeah
    the  old  show  is  back  and  alive,  hated the Vacation How Down they
    replaced it with).  Did someone say Dole Whip?  we all had to  have one
    for desert.
    
    Checked out Splash  Mountain,  they  had  water  in  the ride and where
    testing the logs (empty) over the main drop, later in the week they had
    drained the ride and had  the  main  drops  tracks taken apart and were
    doing work on it.  Asked  around  and  all I got was will open later in
    the Summer/Fall (didn't sound all that promising  for  Mike's  birthday
    bash this summer), one cast member said they  had  a lot of fine tuning
    left to do.
    
    On to Haunted Mansion and then decided to wait around for SpectroMagic.
    I  thought that SpectroMagic even though the Music wasn't as  memorable
    as ELP, was slightly better than ELP as far as the  floats  went.   GOD
    I'd hate to be one of them butterflies with them battery packs!
    
    Went back to PO and swam prior to calling it a night.
    
    
  Day 3 - Monday April 27th
    
    Did breakfast again at PO food court, headed over to MGM for 8:30.  Did
    Star  Tours for the second time was just as good this time around,  sat
    in the middle.
    
    Over to  Indiana  Jones Stunt Spectacular, that's a nice shirt you have
    there fella (you'd have to be there to understand this).  Now this show
    was rather well done,  however  my  camera  was  faked out by that damn
    overhang they use to protect  the audience in inclement weather and the
    shots were underexposed (can't see the  faces).    HINT:  if you have a
    zoom lens and have manual capability zoom into the set get your reading
    and used that meter reading for your shot and you'll do better.  I know
    this being a somewhat camera buff but being enthralled  in  the  moment
    forgot the basics damn!!
    
    Over to the Monster Sound show were the participants did a great job of
    screwing  up  there  parts,  thunder  when the chandelier falls and all
    that.  Liked the short film with Martin Short and Chevy Chase.
    
    Did  The  Magic  of  Disney  Animation  tour  were Robin Williams was a
    Corporate  Symbol.    This  tour  is  a definite must do just to caught
    Robin's add  libs  to Walter Cronkite.  Especially take time to see the
    various departments and  pay  attention to the screens describing them.
    Robin Williams has some  rather great lines as the lost boy from Petter
    Pan.  Especially take time  entering the theater at the end of the tour
    to see what Robin's character does/say  as everyone is rushing in.  ie.
    Walk like this Bop Bee De bop,  Boom  Boom Boom, Wait until the theater
    comes to a complete stop, Select a row ....
    
    Over to the Great Movie Ride did the  left  side (Gangster) and enjoyed
    the Cast member participation more so than yesterday (Cast Members have
    a great deal in whether you enjoy their piece of the show or not)
    
    Over to Superstar TV, this was well done in how they took clip of shows
    past and inserted the audience into them.  This is were  I  notice that
    Florida was indeed being invaded by those damn English folk from across
    the  pond,  1  of  3  picked for all the various audience participation
    shows at  Disney/Universal  I swear were from the United Kingdom (Oh Hi
    Mike B ;^)).    Everyone  got  a kick out of the Voluptuous Woman scene
    from Cheers.
    
    Left MGM, went over  and  checked  out the Yacht and Beach Club resort.
    Very nice, would definitely stay  if  I  could  get the Annual or Stock
    owners specials, otherwise I'd go back  to  PO  in  a minute.  After we
    went over to the Village and did  some  shopping at the Character shop,
    pick up a few shirts etc, and headed over to PO for an afternoon swim.
    
    Headed over to Epcot and parked at the  Swan,  took  the  tram  over to
    International  gateway  and  went over to Norway for our  4  pm  dinner
    reservation,  thought  the buffet was excellent and would do it  again.
    After Dinner did the ride and checked out the shops.
    
    Headed over to Future World to do some of our favorites,  did  World of
    Motion,  and  over  to  Wonder  of Life.  Did Cranium Command, Hey  you
    Lunkhead where  do  you  think  you  are Disney World?  Attention, left
    face, select an aisle and proceed all the way......
    
    The Animation sequence  prior to the actual show of Cranium Command was
    a riot, hence my  new personal name for the time being for Disney.Note.
    Having just eaten a hour  prior  Elaine  and  Greg weren't sure if they
    were ready for Body Wars, so  I  was  elected  as the guinea pig, while
    they did some of the static displays.    I ended up liking Body Wars as
    much as Star Tours, in fact even though  the  ride  is somewhat bumpier
    that ST, I felt the story was better that  ST  (my  opinion of course).
    So we all proceeded to do Body Wars. 
    
    Off to Spaceship Earth, then over to World Showcase Lagoon  to  find  a
    spot  to view Illuminations, ended up selecting a spot to the  left  of
    United Kingdom.    Illumination  was  all  that  I  remembered with the
    addition of the added lights on the countries since I last saw it.
    
    Took the tram  back  to  the  Swam and checked out the Swan and Dolphin
    hotels.  Hmmm I'll  just  say they seem out of place if you know what I
    mean.  I'd sure hate  to  have  paid  big bucks at the Beach Club for a
    water view and have to stare  at  these monstrosities.  Went back to PO
    for our late night swim which ended  up  being  a  ritual  with Tuesday
    night the exception they were expecting record lows Tuesday night.
    
    
  Day 4 - Tuesday April 28th

    Got  up at the usual time, decided to try  the  Olive  Garden  in  Lake
    Buena Vista off of SR 535 for breakfast but turned  out  to be open for
    Dinner only.  Decided to do Burger King instead.  Turned out the one on
    I-drive is open for Breakfast.
    
    Headed over to Universal Studios.  Unlike Disney/MGM, Universal doesn't
    provide any cast member entertainment to those waiting for  the park to
    open.    Only rides not working was Ghostbusters, with Jaws  slated  to
    open  in  '93  after  they decide how they will revamp it  to  make  it
    worthwhile.   (apparently US was unhappy with the outfit that did Jaws,
    and how  it  worked so it's back to the drawing board).  US did open at
    8:30 but we  were  only  allowed  several  hundred  feet inside were we
    waited until the park opened at 9 am.
    
    We headed over to Back to the Future to get it done and out of the way,
    turned out to be smart  move, since the lines were rather long the rest
    of the day.  What can  I  say  about  BTTF that hasn't already be said.
    Overall I would hold it up one  notch  above  BW  and  ST  based on the
    technology involved, but felt that the overall story/flow  of ST and BW
    were slightly better that BTTF.  With all the  time  jumping  and all I
    got a little confused as to what was happening.

    Went  over  to  Earthquake  the  Big  One,  without  the pre-show  with
    Charlston Heston this would of been a waste, but with the  pre-show  on
    how  some  of  the special effects were done for Earthquake, the Subway
    station would not of been worth the 20 minute wait.  Don't get me wrong
    the effects  in  the  subway were rather convincing for someone who had
    never experience a  west coast quake, but to have stayed in line for 20
    min., for the 2 min.  of subway effects, I'd of been rather upset.
    
    Went over to Kongfrontation  only  to  find  out it wasn't running just
    yet.  So off to  the  Funtastic  World  of  Hanna Barberra.  Same basic
    technology as BTTF, only instead of  each  car  having  it's one little
    IMAX type of screen all the simulators are in one big room watching one
    large screen in front of the room.  We enjoyed this ride as well.
    
    Took the Nickelodeon tour, they were in rehearsals  for  Clarisa.  This
    reminded me of the Soundstage tours over at Disney/MGM.
    
    Headed  over  to Kong which was now up, waited  in  line  for  30  min.
    (longest  line  we  had  all  week  in  all  the parks).    Was  rather
    disappointed in this one, two rather quick encounters with Kong.   This
    one  need  more  theming  or  a  pre-show or something to make it  more
    worthwhile.  Too bad Disney didn't have the rights to this one!!
    
    On  over  to  E.T.  Adventure, now this one reminded me of how  a  ride
    should be done, wonder if they had any help from Disney Imagineering on
    this, since we all felt we were in a Disney ride attraction/show.  This
    one is worth  the wait.  maybe the Kong ride designers could take hints
    from the ET designers?
    
    The Gory, Gruesome &  Grotesque Horror Make-up Show was next, it was OK
    but felt it was rather  short,  should of been longer with more make-up
    tricks instead of the film clips.    While waiting in line for this one
    we listen to the 50's singing group  out  front  of  Mel's  dinner from
    American Graffiti.
    
    On over to Hitchcock 3-D Theater, I don't know, I have mixed feeling on
    this one, for that short (15 sec) 3D clip, they should leave the 3D out
    of the title.  The second part of the show  were  they  do  the  shower
    scene was good, reminded me of the audience participation shows over at
    Disney/MGM.

    Well by this time it was around 4 pm and the Berube's had enough of US,
    back to PO and the pool for a cool dip prior to going  over to Pleasure
    Island for the night.    

    Took  the  water  shuttle  over to Pleasure Island.  Note to any of you
    staying at  either  Port  Orleans, Dixie Landing (and Disney's vacation
    Club I believe)  as you go past the Treehouse Villas, there is only one
    that is out in the open, that the one I stayed at back in '84 and is on
    the postcard for the Treehouse  Villas.  Also talk to the driver and it
    turns  out  that in the previous  2  weeks  they  had  to  take  out  5
    alligators from the canals between DL and  the  Village.  Turns out the
    gates you see are merely for flood control only, Disney does absolutely
    nothing to keep the gators out, except to move  them  when  any  of the
    boat  drivers  sees one (that's another reason why they are  constantly
    scanning the water/shoreline, they are looking for gators).  Oh BTW the
    shuttle was running from 9 am to midnight while I was there.
    
    Ate  lunch  over  at Portobello Yacht Club which specializes in Italian
    cuisine.   This  turned  out  to  be  the  best  and  costliest  eating
    experience while we  were  down  there.  The food was excellent and the
    service was superb.   I  had #19, which was thin sliced veal over angel
    hair pasta, while Elaine had  #18 a Seafood Medley (shrimp/lobster etc)
    over spaghetti and Greg had #39  which was Shrimp over Spaghetti, which
    we all enjoyed.  For desert we  all  shared  a  Gaputo  Cupachino which
    turns out is especially made for this restaurant,  extremely  tasty and
    rich  and  should be shared by 2 people at  least  unless  you  have  a
    bottomless bit for a stomach.

    On to Pleasure Island did XFR's which we all like  (they  had a private
    party  'till  9:15pm  over  at  the  Adventurers  Club).  Went over  to
    Adventurers  club at 9:30.  Note that the cast we had this  night  plus
    the audience reactions  to  the  library  show  (9:50 Mandora's Cabaret
    Show) and new Member  Introduction, didn't live up to the expectation I
    had developed from reading past trip reports from the file (later to be
    redeemed however - see day 5).    They  were doing New years at 11:00pm
    during the week so we saw that  show  (with  all the hype around PI and
    New Years Eve every night I expected more  from  this)  and  afterwards
    went over to Comedy Warehouse and caught the 11:15  improv  show  (well
    liked by all).
    
    Took the bus back to PO and called it a night.
    
            
  Day 5 - Wednesday April 29th

    Time to sleep late today, woke up at 8 am  vs  6 am ;^).  Did breakfast
    at PO food court.
    
    Now we were to meet the Young's (fellow DECies) and another family from
    Goffstown  at  Typhoon  Lagoon  but due to the Weather reports from the
    previous day (they were predicting record lows for Tuesday night), they
    decided to cancel and do TL on Friday.  We however decided to give it a
    try since the report  said  it would be in the low 70's.  Turned out to
    be the wisest decision we  made  all  week.    The  weather  turned out
    beautiful, 74 degrees by 11 am and we felt we had the park to ourselves
    since everyone was scared off by the reports.

    Well having the park to ourselves we  waited no long than 5 minutes max
    for anything (how was Friday's line Steve?   ;^)).  We started off with
    the  various  raft rides, went over to the storm  slides  (enjoyed  the
    middle  one with the dark tunnel) and I did Humunga  Kowabunga  (Elaine
    and Greg chicken out on this one).   
    
    Then  off  to  Shark  Reef,  now in order to not scare  Elaine  thereby
    causing her into not trying the Shark Reef I decided to trick her.    I
    took her through  the  observation  area first paying more attention to
    the side not being  used  (due to the light crowds) and pointed out the
    sand shark was on that  side  (didn't  mention about them being on both
    sides), then proceeding to get our  gear and get orientated by the Life
    Guard.  Checked out the gear and  off  we  went.    Elaine almost had a
    heart attack while screaming after spotting the sand  shark  (Gee Honey
    why do you suppose they call it Shark Reef  for?    ;^)).  She admitted
    afterwards if she had known she would not have gone,  Greg  and I still
    laugh  thinking  about  it,  both  Greg  and  I  heard her through  the
    snorkels, I imagine the life guards had a chuckle as well.
    
    Then  on  to the river and then the wavepool.  Since we  had  the  park
    almost to ourselves we did all the slides and a majority of them twice,
    along with the river, reef and wave pool.
    
    After  sunning  on  the  lounge  chairs  for  a  while went back in the
    wavepool to cool off and then headed back to PO around 2 pm.
    
    Elaine and  Greg  went swimming at the pool or did the hot tub, while I
    took care of  Laundry and joined them in between (as I mentioned in the
    PO  note,  the  laundry  is  very  conveniently  located  next  to  the
    pool/bar/hot tub)
    
    For Dinner we went over  to  Papatee  Bay  Verandah at the Poly and had
    another wondrous meal.
    
    Then took the bus over to  Pleasure  Island  around 7:15pm, Adventurers
    Club had another private party going on  till  9:15, so we did the Neon
    Armadillo and had a drink and relaxed while  listening  to  the Country
    Band  (great music/band for listening or dancing) while waiting  to  do
    the 8:25 show of Comedy Warehouse.  Went into in  the  Adventurers Club
    around 9:00pm (party must of finished early), they had a different cast
    tonight  and  caught  the  9:10  show  in  the  Library (Balderdash Cup
    competition) and  the  AC  redeemed itself tonight, what a difference a
    different crowd/cast can  make,  Kongaloosh!!    Also did the 9:40 Maid
    dusting of the treasure  room (OK how is that head trick done anyway?),
    then the 10 pm Mr.    Brownes  Lecture  in  the Mask Room, what a riot,
    check out the mask while waiting for the show notice anything funny?

    Caught the bus back to PO and took a swim before calling it a night.    
        
    
  Day 6 - Thursday April 30th
    
    Drove over to the Poly for  breakfast  with  Minnie  and the gang, good
    buffet.
    
    Over to the MK, did Dreamflight (kind of lame if you ask me), Grandprix
    raceway, Check out Mickey's Starland but didn't feel  like  waiting for
    the show.  On to Magic Journeys (glad they  found  a  place  for  this,
    always a favorite).  Then on to Mr.  Toads  Wild  Ride, Small World and
    the Haunted Mansion again.
    
    Was  getting  around noon time, so before we left decided to  take  the
    train around the Park.  The train now goes through Splash Mountain  and
    that part of the ride is working, but you don't see any of the logs.
    
    Went back to the pool at PO, and rested for a spell.
    
    Went  to  MGM  and  did SCI-FI Dinner for dinner, Even thought the food
    wasn't all  that  exceptional, the cast members and the film clips make
    up for it.  No smooching in the Back seat you two.
    
    After we did  Star  Tours again, then did some shopping along Hollywood
    Boulevard, followed by GMR (right side, this time a lot better).
    
    Finally caught the 6  pm show of Voyage of the Little Mermaid.  This is
    one popular show, we kept  passing  up  on it because the lines were so
    long, but for some reason after  coming out of the GMR got in line told
    6:30 show but actually was able to  get  into the 6 pm show.  This show
    is well worth it, they do a good  job of blending in the Animation from
    the Film, the various puppets and live actors, the lasers and the water
    mist were great.  Elaine felt this was the best show of all, just a tad
    better that Beauty and the Beast, which was great also.
    
    Well we were getting tired so back to you know were PO and the pool.
    
        
  Day 7 - Friday May 1st
    
    We decided to wake up late this morning 8 am, did  some swimming at the
    pool while waiting to go to Fort Wilderness for the trail ride.
    
    We originally had made 1 pm reservations but because we decided to take
    the  morning  off  from doing the parks was able to move it to  11:30am
    instead.

    Now they  tell  you when making reservations that you should wear pants
    and the trails  may  be  dusty.  What they don't tell you is that it is
    REALLY DUSTY.  
    
    HINT:  don't wear  any light colored clothes, they will be black by the
    time you come back.  Also no cameras are allowed so as to not scare the
    horses.  You will most likely  need to take showers afterwards and will
    be surprise how much dust you'll be  coughing  up.    Now  I  know  why
    Cowboys always have bandannas, to used them as  face  mask  in order to
    breath on the Dusty Trail.
    
    The trail ride itself wasn't all that exceptional, just a trail off the
    left of the main road into FW out behind the  rental  trailers.  Turned
    out  the  horse  I had Skip, was a trick horse originally  trained  and
    slated to go to Euro Disney to be part of Wild Bill  Coty's  Wild  West
    Show, but due to some changes Skip was never sent over there.

    Went back to PO and did laundry Gee wonder why :^), and ate lunch while
    waiting.
    
    Headed  into  Epcot around 3 pm this time parking at the Beach Club and
    walked it in.   Did  Captain  EO, Journey into Imagination, Living Seas
    and check out baby Chester  (The Manatee born last year).  Then on over
    to Wonders Of Life.  Did  Body  Wars Again and Cranium Command and more
    of the static displays.  Also caught  the Making of Me which I felt was
    a well done moving on how to...well you  know  what  I  mean  ;^).  Bet
    there was a lot of explaining going on that  night,  a heck of a lot of
    4-9 yrs old in there.

    On over to Canada and went to Le Cellier for  a  snack, love that Maple
    Syrup Pie, then on to the 360 degree movie Oh Canada.
    
    Well it was now around 8 pm decided to leave and  scope  out  the Beach
    Club some more, then on to the PO for a dip in  the pool before calling
    it a night.

           
  Day 8 - Saturday May 2nd

    Another  day  of getting up late, went over to Typhoon Lagoon for 9:45,
    they  were  letting  the people in but holding off the beach, since the
    line was  so big, it went into the parking lot and was interfering with
    the Bus Unloading.
    
    Since the crowd  was  much larger than on Wednesday, we decided to skip
    the slides and primarily  do  the river and wave pool.  Greg and I also
    did a couple of trips at the Shark Reef.  Otherwise the slides had like
    15 min.  waits or more to go down.
    
    Left Typhoon around 1 pm, headed  over  to MGM, was able to make a 3 pm
    reservation for 50's Prime Time Cafe, while waiting redid the Backstage
    Tour, this time getting several shot of Catastrophe Canyon, then we did
    the Animation tour again, had to get one last look at Robin Williams in
    action.
    
    Time to go to 50's Prime Time Cafe.  This  was  by far our worst eating
    experience to date.  The food was bland, and our waiter  sucked to high
    heaven,  no interaction like the others there (actually only about half
    of them seemed to do any real interaction with the quests), and you had
    to wait a  long  time  to  be  served  or  asked  how things was going.
    Otherwise he was to  busy  standing  near  the kitchen and watching the
    other Waiter/Waitresses do what they  were supposed to do, and that was
    to interact with the customers, as  well  as  provide  service with the
    Meal.  Even though part of our problem was the waiter, we felt the food
    wasn't up to par and wouldn't recommend this  to  anyone.    Go  to the
    Brown Derby or Sci-Fi or eat at one of  the sit-down restaurants at the
    resorts.
    
    After  our lousy meal, we did Star Tour twice and  then  on  to  Muppet
    Vision again.
    
    It was now around 5:30 and we had just about had it, so we went back to
    the hotel.  Elaine and Greg sleep for a while, and I later went back to
    MGM  and  caught  the  last show (7:15) of Indiana Jones prior to 8  pm
    showing of  Scorcery in the Sky.  Hmmm fireworks while it's still light
    out?  Oh  well  not a bad show but seemed awfully short, would of liked
    to have caught it in the dark.
    
    Went back to PO,  caught  up with Elaine and Greg, had a snack Key Lime
    Pie and swam prior to calling it a night.
    
        
  Day 9 - Sunday May 3rd

    Bummer Man, time to pack  and go home!!, woke up late 8 am, packed, did
    express check out, ate for the  last time at PO food court, then off to
    the Character shop at the Village for  last  minute  shopping.   Bought
    another  shirt,  finally picked the watch I wanted  as  an  anniversary
    present  from  Elaine  (Mickey  Skeleton) and picked up a  Mickey  self
    portrait  poster (the one of Mickey drawing himself and a  portrait  of
    Walt) then off to the airport to check in.
    
    The flight home was rather uneventful, no bumping (I was hoping  to get
    bumped for a possible voucher for a later trip, but no go ;^()
    
    Landed in Manchester at 5:40pm
    

  SUMMARY:
    
    OVERALL  WEATHER:    Saturday was warm, Sunday started off warm but got
    cool  (high  60's  low  70's)  by  evening  jackets/sweat  shirts  were
    required.  Monday  & Tuesday was cool and long pant/jackets were needed
    for most of the  day.   Tuesday night they were predicting record lows,
    but with warming on Wednesday.   Wednesday thru Sunday it was either in
    the high 70's or low 80's  no  jacket/sweat  shirts  were required.  It
    never rained while we were there, which  was rather unusually, since on
    all my previous April/May trips it rained at  least every other day for
    about 15 minutes or so.    

    CROWDS:  although the crowds seemed heavy at times our longest line was
    a 30 min.  wait for Kong at Universal, otherwise  it  was anywhere from
    walk on up to 20 min.  waits (usually shows like Superstar TV, Beauty &
    the  Beast  or Little Mermaid).  When we saw that a show  didn't  start
    right  away  we  went  on something else and came back later.  Plus  we
    never were in the parks from 1-4 pm to get away from the crowds.
    
    TICKETS etc.:  Of the three days I went into the parks for 8:30 and the
    2 days I  entered  Typhoon  Lagoon  at  opening  they were checking for
    Signatures on the multi-day  passports,  and  were  causing you to sign
    them prior to going in, so make sure you sign them prior to going in so
    as to not SLOW DOWN THE  DAMN  LINE.   Of the 3 times I used the bus, I
    was ask once for an Resort ID/Passport.   The one time I took the water
    Shuttle I was asked for my resort ID.    Every  time  I had asked for a
    towel I was ask for my Resort ID.
    
    CAST  MEMBER/CROWD  PARTICIPATION    SHOW/ATTRACTIONS:        all   the
    attractions/shows at Disney that  rely  on  Cast Members to pull it off
    will depend heavily on those  Cast  Members  performances  as  well  as
    audience reactions, on whether you'll like  it  or not.  The first time
    we  did Adventures club we were somewhat  disappointed,  but  the  next
    night the cast was different and we caught  a  different  show  in  the
    library and enjoyed it immensely.  So things like The Great Movie Ride,
    Adventures Clubs etc.  if you don't like it the first time and you have
    a chance to see it another day/night by all means do  so,  chances  are
    that you have a different cast and might enjoy it this time.
    
    Overall  we enjoyed MGM more so than Universal (Back to the Future  and
    E.T.   and  Hanna  Barberra  the exceptions), we felt that MGM although
    smaller was better  themed  and  the rides/attractions stories etc were
    better thought out than Universal.

    BEST/WORST EXPERIENCES:
    
        Best Eating:  Portobello Yacht Club at Pleasure Island
        Worst:        50's Prime Time Cafe
    
        Best Ride:    Tied  between  Back  to the Future, Star Tours,  Body
                      Wars,  ET  Adventure  and  Funtastic  World  of Hanna
                      Barberra.
        Worst:        Had to be Kongfrontation
    
        Best Show:    Voyage of the  Little  Mermaid  with  Beauty  and the
                      Beast a close second.
        Worst:        Didn't really Have one here, they were all good.
        
    
  WHAT NEW/COMING:
    
    Oh yeah  according  to  the  complementary  copy  of  the  Mickey Mouse
    Magazine in the  room,  here  is  what  slated  for  WDW  in the coming
    months/years.
    
    Splash Mountain opening in '92 (no month/season mentioned)
    
    Alien Encounter (no date given)
    
    Plectu's Fantastic Galactic  Revue,  a  musical  variety  show (no date
    given)
    
    New 3D movie to replace Captain EO for Epcot's 10th Birthday, by George
    Lucas and Walt Disney Studios (no Date given)
    
    Soviet Union which will include a thrill ride (no date given)
    
    Sunset Boulevard at MGM with (all with no dates given)
    
        ToonTown Adventure - flight simulator ride
    
        Benny the Cab Ride
    
        Baby Hermans Runaway Baby Buggie Ride
    
        Mickey Movieland, a recreation of Walts first Studio.
    
        Twilight Zone Tower of Doom (1994 according to poster at Disney/MGM
        Studios entrance)
    
    Disney Boardwalk Resort in '93
    
    Resort  on  the  Drawing  Boards,  a Greek Islands and the great wooden
    lodges of the Rocky mountains
290.13Euro Disneyland 12-13 AprilMIACT::WARWICKThu May 07 1992 12:01538
290.142nd Hand Trip ReportWOTVAX::BATTYWell, I wouldn't start from here!Thu May 07 1992 13:12102
290.15What I did on my Disney vacation!SALEM::NELSON_DWed May 13 1992 12:2191
    After being threatened with harrasment in the work place if I didn't
              enter a report, I will now do so 8^)
    
    Day 1 Mon. May 10th.- Me and my new wife were picked up at our house at
    6:15a.m. by limo and taken to Logan IA to catch our 8:30 Delta 757
    non-stop flight to orlando. The flight was uneventfull. (at this time
    I would like to thank the makers of XanaX for getting my wife through
    the flight 8^) Arrived in Orlando at 11 and rented a car from dollar.
    Thanks to our travel agent we got an upgrade from a Hundai to a Dodge
    Dynasty. 
    
    We arrived at the CBR about 12:30 and headed to the Custom house to see
    when we could check in. Although the Custom house was very crowded we 
    waited only about 5 minutes to make it to the desk and were surprised
    and happy to find our room was ready and we could check right in.
    I liked the CBR. The room was plenty big enough and clean. We stayed
    in the Martinque section, second floor corner room overlooking the
    water. Building 26, which is next to Port Royale. We didn't eat much
    at OPR except for the pizza and beer which we had several times at 11 p.m.
    in the Tavern after a long day. Pizza good, Beer cold, we were happy.
    After checking in we took a ride around and ended up stopping for an
    early dinner in Red Lobster at the Crossroads. Finally, got to eat in
    one after seeing all those commercials. It was good. We spent the rest 
    of the night driving around and checking things out, and then back to
    the room. (after all, It was my honeymoon 8^) )
    
    Day 2- Took advantage of the early admission into the MK and got in 
    about 8:15. Already to late for the Diamond Horeshoe show, the line
    for that was longer than for any ride all week. we then proceeded to
    to hit most of the rides we wanted to do by 12:00. Just about walked on
    all rides except the Jungle Cruise and Peter Pan. Had a quick lunch and
    more rides then back to main street. Left about 4 and went to The Olive
    Garden for dinner. Then to the hotel for a shower and off to Epcot. I
    fiqured we could walk around for awhile and go on a few rides. WRONG.
    We hit them ALL except for the Land. Were gonna wait for Illuminations
    but were to tired and headed back to the hotel about 8:30. Watched
    illum. from the beach, then off to the pool bar for a couple of night
    caps. 
    
    Day 3- Back to Epcot and the World Showcase. Spent most of the day
    there. Favorite Countries, U.K., Morocco, U.S.A, Mexico. 
    Also spent about 2 hours at Typhoon Lagoon. 
    Went to Morrison's for dinner back to the hotel and yes...The pool & bar.
    
    Day 4- MGM, I had never been there before and really enjoyed it. We
    both thought the Muppet 3-D show was one of the best things we saw all
    week. My wife got on the Super-star show as part of the person-on-the-
    street scene from the Letterman show. She loved it, what a ham.
    This was probably the biggest crowd we saw all week, but still wasn't 
    that bad at all. It also was the worst weather we had all week. It was
    drizzly and cold (about 70). Left MGM about 4 and went back to the
    Olive Garden again for dinner, My wife loved this place. At about 6 we
    parked at Epcot and took the monorail over to the MK for a couple of
    hours to go on some of the rides again and then monorailed back to
    Epcot to see Illuminations. We got a table right on the water at the
    Pub in the U.K. and watched the show while enjoying a couple of Bass
    ales. We thought the show was great. 
    
    Day 5- My wife reminded me we were on our honeymoon and we decided to
    take this day off , relax, and enjoy the hotel. Spent the day at the
    pool, rented a paddle boat, and played volleyball on the beach. It was
    nice to relax. Got dressed about 7 and took a tour of most of the
    hotels. We were really impressed with the Floridian and stopped in at
    the lounge. At 9:30 we went to the Polynesian for the Luau, The H-D-
    Bar. was impossible to get in to so we decided to give the Luau a shot
    against most of the opinions expressed here. Although we can't compare 
    it to the other dinner shows we both liked the Luau and thought the
    food was pretty good. 
    
    Day 6- We spent our last full day in MGM and Epcot seeing the things
    we had missed earlier at a nice relaxing pace. Had lunch at the Sci-Fi
    Theater in MGM and dinner at Perkins. We also hit Old Town for a couple
    of hours and spent some time in the lounge of the Empress Lily.
    Spent our last night at Pleasure Island. I though this place
    was great. went to all the clubs and saw a good band at the outside
    stage. 
    
    Day 7- Checked out of the hotel about 10:30 had breakfast and headed
    down 192 to Gatorland (my wife really wanted to go see some Gators) 
    Then off to the Airport for the flight home.
    
    Summary- My 5th time to WDW but my first in about 4 years, Things sure
    do change fast there. It was my wifes first time in WDW and she loved
    it. It always impressed me how they can run things so smoothly and
    friendly for the amount of people that they handle there. The trip
    was great! 
     
    Well the honeymoons over, But we're going back in march. My folks have 
    a place rented for a month down there. I can't wait.
    
    -dave-
290.16April 2 - April 956649::TOHOKU::TAYLORThu May 14 1992 17:12524
290.17Another Great Vacation!!!AKOCOA::MYOUNGThu May 14 1992 19:5737
    My husband and I returned from Disneyworld yesterday and I already miss
    it!
    
    We went to Epcot on two days (my favorite!), Magic Kingdom, Typhoon
    Lagoon, and Pleasure Island.  Outside of the park we went to Universal
    Studios and the Kennedy Space Center.
    
    We had great weather all week.  The first couple of days it was in the
    70's (record lows) and by the end of our stay it was about 88.  
    
    Typhoon Lagoon is such a fun day.  The large wave pool still amazes me.  
    The relaxing river which goes around the entire park is so relaxing!
    
    We had a great time as always at Epcot.  We had dinner at France (the
    resteraunt located upstairs) the food was excellent and the service was
    perfect.  We also ate in Germany one evening and the entertainment was
    great.
    
    There were no lines at Epcot and we just walked onto the rides we
    wanted to go on.  The Illuminations program was bigger than it was two 
    years ago.  It really is breathtaking. 
    
    The magic kingdom was fun and it was not overcrowded.  The longest line
    we waited in was 1/2 hour.  
    
    I had never been to the Kennedy Space Center before and I found it very
    interesting.  Universal Studios was great (we had been to MGM two years
    ago) the rides were a lot of fun even though the lines were averaging
    30 to 40 minutes long.
    
    In the past we tried to do everything that Disney offered, this time we
    took our time and relaxed.  We saw plenty and had a lot of fun, only
    this time I feel rested and relaxed - not exhausted.  
    
    Regards,
    
    Mary 
290.18Another LOONG trip report [you asked for it! :-) ]DEMSUP::MACDONALDI love March Madness!!Fri May 15 1992 14:06363
290.19DECWindows Notes warning long reply to follow....FDCV14::YOUNGSteve Young DDD/M16 DTN 264-4335Mon May 18 1992 16:218
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It is the trip report for the Young family trip to WDW from April 23 - May 4.
sorry it's late, but I only had a couple of days to get some real work done 
before I had to go to Atlanta on a business trip.

Steve
290.20The Young Family report for April 26 - May 4FDCV14::YOUNGSteve Young DDD/M16 DTN 264-4335Mon May 18 1992 16:24668
		Trip Report for the Young Family Trip to WDW
			April 23 - May 4, 1992

    
    WHO: Kathy, Beth(10), Adam(13) and Steve Young
	    
    WHERE: Fort Wilderness, Spanish Moss Lane, Site 2056
    
    HOW: Driving pulling our Pop-up from Goffstown, NH
    
    (Also going with us were our neighbors Tom, Debbie, Jeff(10) and
    Chris(8) Cobb  who were also pulling their pop-up.)
    
    Day 1 - Thursday, April 23  
    
    Took day off from work to finish packing and hook up the camper. Drove
    out of the driveway at 3:00 PM sharp. Ate sandwiches we had made ahead
    of time for supper. Not much to say about the trip down except to say
    that we drove and drove and drove.... We had borrowed a couple of CB's
    from a neighbor and this made the drive a little more enjoyable. We
    could communicate between cars and didn't feel so alone on the road. We
    were also able to hear the truck drivers talking which helped a great
    deal. We were warned of several accidents and traffic jams that we were
    able to avoid.

    My wife and I switched off several times and we found it a little
    easier this year than in the past because my son and daughter took
    turns staying up with us so one of us could sleep without worrying
    about the other like we have in the past. 

    We were slowed a little bit when Debbie drove their car, because she
    had never driven while pulling the camper before and was very nervous
    as well as very tired (her stint was from midnight to 3). I had a hard
    time keeping her at 55 even when the limit was 65.

    Day 2 - Friday April 24

    We finally stopped driving somewhere south of Richmond (forgot to write
    down the town) to have some breakfast, grabbed a quick lunch at a
    Burger King, and kept driving and driving and driving....  

    Hit the Florida border at a little before 5:00. (Everyone was looking
    forward to this until I explained just how much further we had to go.
    My wife kept looking at the map and adding the numbers up to prove me
    wrong.)

    We stopped just outside of Daytona, before getting on to I-4, to grab a
    pizza at Pizza Hut. 

    We arrived in Orlando at 8:00 PM and spent the night at the
    International Gateway Inn, just off International Drive.
    
    Day 3 - Saturday April 25

    Left a wake-up call for 7:00, so we could grab showers and breakfast
    before heading off to WDW. After breakfast at Denny's and having a
    friendly Hotel manager retreive our car keys from the roof of the
    4-story hotel (DON'T ASK!! If you have a 13 year old you don't need an
    explanation and if you don't you'll never understand anyway), it was
    off to WDW. 

    (Quick side-note for you adventurous types. The new "thing to do" on
    International Drive is Bungee jumping. We saw at least 3 separate
    cranes set up for this. They take you up in a small "elevator" car by
    crane and you jump off. Just out of curiousity, we asked the hotel
    manager what they charged for this honor. Sixty bucks per jump. Makes a
    day at Disney look inexpensive.)

    Check-in time at FW is 1:00 PM so we had intended to get there and do
    an early check-in, park the cars and campers in the parking lot, and
    head for TMK, then come out around 3:00, and set-up grab a quick supper
    and head for MGM (to see the Sorcery in the Sky show). 

    When we got to the check-in area, our sites were ready and we could go
    right in, so we were setting up by 10:30 and decided to grab a quick
    lunch then go to MGM.

    Mis-read the bus schedule so we thought we had to go to the TTC to get
    a bus to MGM (realized after that there is a direct bus from FW to MGM
    that is much more efficient and used that the rest of the week). While
    at the TTC I bought the 5-day passes for the kids and the Annual Passes
    for Kathy and I (at this time of day there were no lines and
    no-waiting. Although the cast member taking the photos was in no
    hurry).

    Got to MGM at 2:40 and Tom realized he had left his camera sitting on
    the bench at the TTC. He went back to get it, while the rest of us did
    some shopping on  Hollywood Blvd. Just as we were supposed to meet Tom,
    we noticed the BatB show was just getting out, and decided to get in
    line for the next show which was starting in 30 minutes. We stood in
    line for about 15 minutes while they were  cleaning up from the
    previous show. Tom caught up with us just before we went in. While
    waiting in line, we saw the Dinosaur family in a parade down Hollywood
    Blvd. on their way to a "Special On Location Shoot" in front of the
    Chinese Theater.

    Beauty and the Beast was a very well done show and the only "R-rated"
    attraction we saw at WDW. (My son and wife actually saw one of the
    dancers in the "Be Our Guest" number fall out of her costume twice, I
    just never seem to be looking at the right place at the right time ;^)
    ). 

    Then it was on to the Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular which was
    just seating. The kids really enjoyed this show. My daughter in
    particular was startled several times. Especially when the truck blew
    up and turned over, and the star didn't come out of it. My wife and I
    both noticed that the "director" was the same person who played
    Six-bits at the Hoop-de-doo on our last visit.

    Next was the Little Mermaid show, which was our longest wait of the
    week, (aside from waiting for my daughter in the gift shops :^) ),
    about 30 minutes. The way they used the lasers and mist to make you
    feel like you were going "Under the Sea" was very well done. It was a
    fun show. The creatures used during the big dance number were a riot. 

    Then it was on to the Backstage Studio Tour. Didn't get to see the
    pre-show here because there was no line at all. This was to be our
    experience the rest of the day. There was a group of students from one
    of the colleges that was shooting on the Residential Street when we
    went through. Catastrophe Canyon was great. Very realistic. Walked
    through the "Loony Bin" and had a great time opening the various
    "sound" boxes. "Close the box!"

    Went to the Honey, I Shrunk the Kids play area and had a great time
    identifying the various props. Kids of all ages had alot of fun here.
    It was hard to get some moving. We started to look for someplace to eat
    at this point, because we were all getting hungry. Checked out the
    Studio Catering Co. just outside the play area, but they didn't have
    real "meals" just snacks.

    Wandered the New York streets for a while and stumbled onto the
    "Muppets On Location". At this point I think most of us would have
    passed this up, but Chris was very intertested, so we stuck around for
    the end of the show. Saw an ad for Mama somebody's restaurant (an
    Italian restaurant on one of the New York streets, not yet on any map)
    and thought that sounded good so went looking for it. When we found it,
    there was a sign saying they had closed early for the day, so we
    trudged on.

    Went to the Muppet*vision 3-D next. Saw most of the pre-show, thought
    it was great. Good use of the TV monitors. The movie itself was
    excellant. Kids were particulary thrilled with the "holes" in the walls
    from the cannon balls.

    Wandered into the Studio Showcase as we headed to the nearest
    restaurant. An intersting place, they keep alot of props from previous
    movies in here. Also had alot of the props used in "Honey, I Blew Up
    the Kid", including the miniature house set.

    Passed up Star Tours to eat at the Backlot Express (guess that shows
    how hungry we were by that time). This proved to be a good place to get
    burgers and dogs, etc. I was pleased to see that Disney was now
    offering the sandwiches with either French Fries or fruit. They also
    had a "topping bar" where you could put your own toppings on your
    burgers, similar to Fuddruckers. They had a large selection of toppings
    too choose from; lettuce and tomato, onions and peppers, barbecue
    sauce, Nacho cheese sauce, etc. Also glad to see that the diet soda
    they offered was caffeine-free.

    After filling up, it was back to Star Tours. Walked right on with no
    wait. We really enjoyed this ride. Kathy was even laughing and having a
    good time (she doesn't care for any kind of "thrill" ride) and only had
    to close her eyes once, during the first "drop".

    Tempted to go back on, but decided to push on since it was almost time
    for the "Sorcery in the Sky" show. Got over in front of the Chinese
    Theater and decided we had time to take the Great Movie Ride. Got in on
    the right side for the western scene. The ride was a lot of fun, but I
    think a lot of it was lost on the kids. They just weren't familiar with
    most of the old movies.

    Picked a spot in front of the Theater for the "Sorcery in the Sky"
    show. The show was really fantastic. Everyone left remarking about how
    "Nobody does it like Disney.". We really didn't see how the fireworks
    display could be topped.

    Back to the camper for a good night's sleep.

    Day 4 - Sunday April 26

    Today was our day for EPCOT. We had decided the night before that we
    weren't going to set an alarm, because we needed to catch up on our
    sleep. We got to the park about 11:00. (I know, I know this is when we
    should be thinking about leaving the park, because of the crowds, but
    this was to be our pattern for the week. We were just too tired to push
    the kids (yeah right) that hard in the mornings.)

    By this time the crowds were moving onto World Showcase, except for
    Spaceship Earth, so we stayed in Future World and decided to work
    clockwise, because it would get us to the Wonders of Life quicker.

    First on the agenda was the Universe of Energy. Then onto the Wonders
    of Life.

    Body Wars was our first stop. Enjoyed this, but no where near as much
    as we did Star Tours. The ride was much jerkier and the story was too
    hard to follow. The scenes shifted so quickly that it was hard to know
    where in the body you were at any given moment. If you have someone who
    is leary about these rides, be sure to go on Star tours first. If Kathy
    had gone on this first, I don't think we would have gotten her on Star
    Tours at all.

    Next was a show by the Anacomical Players. A group of improvisational
    comedians who used very bad puns and skits to teach some simple health
    facts. Very entertaining. Skits included a take-off on The People's
    Court with a person vs. his stomach, a 3 round wrestling match between
    a cold virus and a body using an audience member as the host body, and
    two professors who share a brain (one has the left-half the other the
    right-half) and answer questions from the audience by alternating words
    of the answer (a funny piece of improv as they try to work each other
    into a corner).

    The line for "The Making of Me" was fairly long (over 45 minutes) so we
    passed it for now and went to Cranium Command (inside the mind of a
    12-year-old, what a scary thought). This is a hilarious show, but you
    don't want to miss the pre-show. If you get there and have just missed
    the pre-show, wait for the next show. It's worth it. I don't know if
    this show impressed me  so much because I have a son in that age group
    or what, but this was my favorite attraction in EPCOT. It's obvious
    that the Imagineer that came up with the hypothalamus was a fan of
    Marvin the Robot, of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy fame.

    We took a break at this point and had a picnic lunch  of (Shhhh don't
    tell Mickey) peanut butter sandwiches we had made up at the camper.
    This is when my son realized he left his hat on BW. He went back and
    someone had turned the hat in but had removed a couple of his souviner
    hat-pins in the process :^(. By the time we cleaned up and got the
    back-pack back in the locker, it was time to head for the "Surprise in
    the Sky" show at the World Showcase Lagoon. It was a good show, but not
    as impressive as the original one that we attended back in '87. The one
    in '87 had much more elaborate boats (the ones pictured in their "20"
    reasons to visit ads and pictured on the front of the EPCOT Guidebook).
    The '87 show also had somewhat of a plot with good guys and bad guys,
    rather than just the show. It was a little windy, so they didn't have
    the para-planes flown by the characters take part in the show, no
    announcement of this, they just weren't there. If you didn't know they
    were supposed to be you would never have missed them. Handled well I
    thought. 

    Back to do Horizons (finished with the "space" scene), then World of
    Motion and Tanscenter. Debbie went outside to get some sun while we
    went through the Transcenter (she just couldn't understand what the
    attraction was there).

    Onto Journey to Imagination, still no waiting just waked right on.
    Spent quite a bit of time in Image Works (quite a bit of upgrading was
    done here since our last visit) and somehow lost the Cobb family here.
    When they went to leave and go to Captain EO, they couldn't find us and
    assumed we had left without telling them. A while later we assumed the
    same thing when we couldn't find them, so we went on to EO (neither of
    us could understand why the other just took off without saying
    anything, figured we must have said something wrong. We must have been
    of the the "musical lights room" or something). I'm always amused by
    the pre-show here when they sing about making memories by taking
    pictures, then every attraction you go to you are "Not allowed any type
    of photography, including still, flash, or videotape."

    We went on to The Land and caught the Kitchen Kabaret, then to the
    Listen to the Land boat ride. We saw the Cobbs while standing in line
    and sorted out what had happened at Journey. Since they had
    reservations at the Coral Reef Restaurant and we were going to eat at
    the Farmer's Market, we arranged to try to meet just before
    "Illuminations". I felt that the research they were doing in "The Land" 
    was more impressive and more "realistic" than it was in '87. Kathy made
    the comment to me, that she thought they weren't doing as much out
    there as before. Just goes to show how different perspectives can be.
    Caught the SYMBIOSIS movie on the way out. 

    Stopped for some shopping at the Centorium in Communicore East on the
    way to Illuminations. Had agreed to meet the Cobbs on the bridge next
    to Mexico between 8:30 and 8:45, figured they would be late because of
    their 7:30 reservations at the Coral Reef, but looked for them anyway
    when we got there at 8:50. Couldn't find them so moved to our right a
    little and managed to grab a spot just to the right of the boat dock,
    right next to the area they have roped off for handicapped guests. This
    was a good spot. The only countries it was hard to see were Mexico and
    Canada. Left here saying, "Boy, I didn't think they could top last
    nights fireworks, but they sure did."

    Back to the camper for some much needed rest.

    Day 5 - Monday April 27

    This was the day for the Magic Kingdom. Everyone was dragging by this
    time so we had to push some to get to the parks early (about 10:30
    ;^)). Decided to go clock-wise around the park, since there was more on
    this side of the park that we wanted to see. By-passed the Swiss Family
    Treehouse because of the long line and lack of interest. Got in line
    for the Jungle Cruise although it was a fairly long line and we were
    beginning to think we had made a serious mistake in not getting to the
    park earlier. Turned out to be about 20-minutes. 

    Then it was into the Tiki Birds without waiting for the pre-show, then
    into the Pirates of the Caribbean with only a 5-minute line, so we felt
    a little better. Splash Mountain wasn't running at all while we were
    there, but it definitely looks like a great ride. Can't wait until
    November. 

    Another 20-minute wait for BMTR, while Kathy and Debbie went off to
    check out some of the shops, then on to Tom Sawyer Island. Let the kids
    run around the island, while we tried to sit and rest some, but still
    try to keep them in sight. Back from the island and into line for the
    Country Bear Jamboree (the old show), while the "bad guys" and "good
    guys" were staging a shoot-out right out front. Proved to be a good
    move because the line got very long as soon as they were done and we
    headed into the theater. It was good to see the original show again
    (don't think the kids had seen it before), but it seemed shorter than
    the Vacation Hoedown was.

    Ate a quick lunch in front of the Hall of Presidents (don't tell Mickey
    again, but we brought in tuna fish to make up into sandwiches), then
    snuck into the Haunted Mansion with no waiting, just as the 3:00 parade
    was starting. Jeff and Debbie stayed to watch the parade, because Jeff
    didn't want to go on the ride. The parade was just finishing up as we
    came out and everyone was making a bee-line for HM. Went to the Hall of
    Presidents next. The older kids were a  little more interested this
    time, because they had studied more American History in school and it
    meant more to them.

    Moved onto Fantasyland and into the waiting area for "Magic Journeys".
    Almost got separated from the girls here. The timer said there were 15
    minutes to the next show and they decided to check out one of the shops
    next door. As soon as they left, we were moved into the small theater
    where they show "Working for Peanuts". But they were back before the
    cartoon started, so didn't miss anything. I'm glad to see they have
    found a place for this movie. I enjoyed it when it was in EPCOT and was
    disappointed when it was replaced with Captain EO.

    Then it was on to the dreaded "It's a Small World". I noticed that they
    seem to have done away with the song lyrics in all of the different
    languages. It was just the music until right near the end of the ride
    when you could hear the words in English (am I crazy?). It was also
    very noticeable that the maintenance on this ride was lacking. There
    were very obvious scenery that was broken or pieces missing that hadn't
    been fixed.

    The lines were fairly long for all of the other rides in Fantasyland
    and the kids really showed no interest in going on them so we decided
    to move on. The Skyway was closed. In fact there were no gondolas on
    the cable at all. Later in the week, the Cobbs were back in TMK and it
    was running normally.

    The Cobbs left to go back to their camper and have supper (they had
    some food that was going to spoil if they didn't use it up), so we made
    plans to meet them for the Spectro-Magic parade at our selected viewing
    point and went on to Mickey's Starland. Beth spent sometime going thru
    the petting farm, then we went over to Mickey's house to find that we
    had missed the last show of the day by about 30 minutes. Looked around
    Mickey's house for a while, then took the Railroad for a complete
    circuit.

    Adam and Beth went on the Grand Prix raceway while Kathy and I checked
    out places to eat that were nearby. Collected the kids and had some
    sandwiches at Tommorowland Terrace. Quickly did Space Mountain,
    Carousel of Progress (I still enjoy this attraction. Maybe because it
    helps bring back the memories of the 64-65 New York World's Fair), and
    Dreamflight. then we rushed over to our selected viewing spot for the
    Spectro-Magic parade. 

    Thought the parade was great. We have never seen the ELP, so can't
    really compare the two. Although I must say the music from ELP was
    rememberable and the music from SM isn't. 

    End of another long day.


    Day 6 - Tuesday April 28

    This was to be our day of freedom. Adam and Beth were off on their
    "Wonders of the World - Entertainment" tour. More about that in the
    "Wonders of the World" note.

    After leaving Adam and Beth with their tour guide outside MGM, Kathy
    and I took the bus to EPCOT. We made reservation for an 11:30 lunch at
    Germany, then started our tour of World Showcase with Canada and worked
    counter-clockwise. We figured that we would just go through the shops
    and some of the exhibits today without doing any of the movies or
    rides, saving those for when the kids were with us. There were
    virtually NO people in the World Showcase area for the entire morning.
    It was very windy and cold all day. We needed jackets and actually
    wished we had something a little more. The wind off the water once we
    got past the American Adventure was particulary strong and very cool.

    When we got over to Germany, we couldn't find anything on the menu that
    really interested us (we were really looking for Veinerschnitzel), so
    decided to just continue on and hope to find something later. We
    decided to eat in Norway at the Akershus. If you had asked either of us
    to eat the things that were on the buffet ahead of time we probably
    would have politely declined, but we both found that it was very good
    and would do it again. The goat cheese and potato bread was delicious. 

    After lunch, we took the bus back to MGM. Since we had about an hour or
    so before we were to pick up the kids, we decided to do some window
    shopping. While we were in Sid Cahuenga's, Rosie (who looks just like
    Lana Turner and must be a twin who was separated at birth, or so she
    told me ;^)) chose me for some of her antics ("Did you see that guy? He
    was sweating bullets. He thought I was really Lana Turner."). That's
    what I get for standing under Lana's picture. We then went out and took
    in some more of the streetmosphere in between checking out shops. We
    found the antics of the characters to be a lot of fun. We hadn't
    noticed any of this when we were in the park before, but it was going
    on all afternoon pretty much continuously. Guess we were just too busy
    before.

    Picked up the kids and headed over to meet the Cobbs at the 5:00 PM
    show of the Hoop-de-doo revue. Our seats weren't that good considering
    we had reserved over 6-months ago. I think this was at least partially
    due to our reserving for eight people. When I made the reservations,
    they told me that they didn't have tables for eight and I told them
    that 4 & 4 would be fine. When we got seated it was at a table for
    eight, towards the back and way off to the right side.

    The Cobbs had spent the day at Discovery Island, and looking over the
    Grand Floridian. 

    Back to the camper for an early night. 

    They were calling for record lows in the 30's for tonight. Of course
    when my wife had wanted to pack the heater for the pop-up I said, "Come
    on! It's going to be the end of April in Florida, we are NOT going to
    need a heater. It'll just take up room." Tom was having problems with
    his propane tank, so he didn't have any heat either.

    We were supposed to meet Claude at Typhoon Lagoon the next morning but
    chickened out. I called and left a message for him on his voice mail
    (boy, can't get away from that even at WDW). 

    Day 7 - Wednesday April 29

    Actually got a fairly early start today, got to EPCOT about 9:30.
    Headed directly to World Showcase, starting at Mexico this time. After
    the boat ride, Kathy wanted Beth to help her pick out some earrings she
    had been looking at the day before, but the shop wasn't open yet, so we
    went on to Norway. "The Maelstrom" was a great ride alot of fun,
    especially since Kathy was not happy when the ride started out by going
    up an incline like a coaster and was never sure what was coming next.
    When we got off, she decided that, "I can handle that kind of ride.
    That's just my speed."

    Kathy and Beth went back to Mexico to get the earrings while the rest
    of us waited out in the sun. Then it was on to the movie in China. Then
    Beth decided that she liked the gift shop in China. I thought she was
    going to take up residence :^). We decided that we better tell the
    Cobbs that they may want to move on without us. Their boys just weren't
    as interested in the gift shops and it looked like we would be slowing
    them up at each country. Beth ended up finding a very nice
    Mother-of-pearl ring for only $2.50, so I guess the waiting was
    worth-while. We then very quickly moved through Germany and Italy. 

    We got to the American Adventure just as the Voices of Liberty were
    finishing their pre-show, just got to hear the National Anthem, and
    then went right in to the theater. As we got out of the show and headed
    to Japan to eat, we ran into the Cobbs, who had by-passed the American
    Adventure, because they had just missed the show and figured they would
    go back. Had lunch with them in the Japanese Garden at the Yakatori
    House. The food here was very good, even all of the kids enjoyed it,
    which was surprising. 

    The Cobbs went back to the AA, while we continued on with Japan,
    Morrocco, and France. Crossed the bridge by the International Gateway,
    just before the "Surprise in the Sky" show. They close this bridge
    during the show. Did the shops in the UK and Canada while the show was
    going on. They did have the para-planes today, caught a glimpse of them
    as we were moving between countries.

    The Cobbs had caught up with us by this time, but we split up again as
    we went back to Future World. We went to get some ice cream at The
    Land, then went to the Living Seas. We spent quite a bit of time here
    seeing and doing all of the exhibits. We then went on to Communicore's
    West and East, where the kids spent almost 2 hours with all of the
    exhibits. Kathy sat at a nearby bench as did I for a while. We finally
    had to pry the kids away so we could finish up the Wonders of Life. We
    went directly into the Making of Me without a wait. This is a very well
    done movie, quite funny in places. 

    We then went to do Cranium Command again. Just loved this show.

    Then it was to Spaceship Earth, then onto the monorail just as
    Illuminations was beginning.

    Day 8 - Thursday April 30

    Planned on going back to TMK to catch all of the things we had missed
    today, but the kids really didn't want to. So we grabbed breakfast at
    the Trails End Buffeteria (What a great deal $22.00 for the four of us.
    Pretty much all you can eat buffet), then went to Discovery Island for
    the morning. Headed for MGM in the afternoon. 

    Watched some of the streetmosphere, that the kids hadn't seen before,
    actually we hadn't seen these particular scenes either. Ran into
    another family from Goffstown that we knew and talked with them for a
    few minutes. Then it was off to Superstar Television, where Kathy and I
    were picked to be on Cheers (funny everybody was having a birthday that
    day ;^)). Then onto the Monster Sound Show, cute movie, funnier with
    the second set of sound effects. The 3-D stereo booths  in the
    Soundworks area were really something.

    The Disney Animation tour was next. Robin Williams and Walter Conkite
    were great together. What a pair. Then we decided to take the tram part
    of the backstage tour to get us over to the walking part of the tour
    that we hadn't taken on Saturday. We had some college girls on the bus
    one of which started screaming and jumping around in Catastrophe
    Canyon. If I didn't know better I would have thought that she was a
    plant. Instead I think she was just a fruit  ;^). The Special Effects
    and Production tour was very good. We had a real small group, so there
    was no pushing and shoving to get a good view. They were putting on the
    finishing touches on the Mickey Mouse Club set, which is due to go into
    production next week. They were also taking some publicity photos of
    some of the Mouseketeers. 

    We had just enough time to do one more thing before the park closed at
    7:00. Beth wanted to go back to Superstar TV to try and get picked, so
    off we went. I was looking forward to seeing the show from the front
    this time. Alas it was not to be, this time I was picked to be a
    detective on the Golden Girls. Beth was picked for the part of Ginger
    on Gilligan's Isle ,so she was happy. Adam was selected to be on with
    Letterman. Kathy got to watch us all from out front. I think there were
    only about 30 people in the audience, everyone else was selected for a
    spot in the show.

    We realized that we hadn't stopped to eat all day so decided to head
    back for FW for some pizza, only to find out that they don't serve that
    until after 9:00. We decided to head over to Pleasure Island so the
    kids could get a look at it. (We had plans to go with the Cobbs the
    next night. Adults only!) After getting our Annual Riders and fumbling
    around trying to figure out where to eat, we found the City Diner? that
    had pizza. Just what we were looking for. Headed for the Adventurer's
    Club and spent over an hour there. Had a great time. The kids really
    enjoyed it. Kungaloosh!

    Back to the camper much later than we had expected, but at this point
    was getting to be the norm.

    Day 8 - Friday May 1

    We were up late today and moving slowly. So the Cobbs who had sense
    enough to come home at a reasonable hour took off to Typhoon Lagoon
    while we were still rubbing our eyes. Went to the Trails End for an
    Express breakfast, then off to  Typhoon Lagoon.

    We had to stand in line to get tickets for Kathy and I (sure wish they
    had an Annual Superpass). By the time we got in there wasn't a lounge
    or even a spot of sand to be had. (I know, Claude, we should have stuck
    to plans and been there Wednesday. :^)). We found a very small spot
    behind a plant to dump our towels, cooler, etc. The kids took off while
    Kathy and I went in search of a locker. Instead of a locker, we found
    Shark Reef with hardly any waiting. We watched  people for a while then
    decided to find a locker, try to find the kids , and then come back.
    Instead the kids found us, and they went in to get their snorkeling
    gear. I am not a strong swimmer so decided to just stand by and watch.
    After a little of this I decided, well, it's not really that far. On my
    way to get the gear, I ran into the St. Jean's (the other family from
    Goffstown) again. Got my gear and went up to be with my family. Well, I
    should have listened to my first instincts and not gone. I had to
    struggle some to swim across the pool and really couldn't think about
    looking at the fish. Beth had problems and my wife had to take off her
    own mask to help her out. Adam had  a great time. You should really be
    a strong swimmer to do this. Kathy feels that they didn't give you a
    chance to proctice with the snorkeling gear enough. She had a hard time
    convincing herself that she could breathe while her face was underwater
    and felt very closed in and panicky. She thinks a few minutes (10 or
    so) of practice ahead of time would have helped greatly.

    We got a locker, accidently ran into the Cobbs and moved all of our
    stuff over to where they were sitting, then hit the body slides. From
    there Kathy and I did Castaway Creek, that's the way to spend a few
    hours. Most of the lines were only 10 minutes or so, and less than that
    after 2:30. Our only real long wait of the day was in line for
    "Gangplank Falls", the family tube ride. As we were getting close to
    getting a tube a girl in line behind us fainted and hit her head. The
    lifeguards on duty shut down the ride to take care of her and it was 10
    or 12 minutes before they had other guards up to the ride and
    re-started. I think they were getting a litter to carry her out, but
    she insisted on walking down so they ended up assisting her down.

    Left just before 5:00 to head back to FW and pack up some of the
    camper.

    We wanted to grab a quick hamburger or something on the way back. We
    knew that Trail's End buffet didn't have anything we were interested
    in, so we sent Adam to look at the menu for Crockett's Tavern to see if
    they had burgers. He said they did, so in we went. Then we found out
    its a full service restaurant, so much for a quick meal. Kathy and I
    ended up with Steak and Adam tried their buffalo burger (yes real
    buffalo meat. Not bad.) 

    We had planned to have Adam stay with the kids this evening and the
    adults were going to Pleasure Island, but the Cobbs were ready much
    sooner than we were, since we had stopped for a full meal. We told them
    to go without us, and we might catch up later. After getting the camper
    set to close down, I decided to go to PI and see if I could catch up
    with the Cobbs. Kathy decided to stay at the camper and take it easy. 

    Went directly to the Adventurer's Club and looked around for the Cobbs,
    didn't see them, so went into the Library for "Mandora's Cabaret". Had
    seen this the previous night, but it was still fun. when we got out, I
    found Tom and Debbie sitting at the bar. Stuck around for them to go
    through initiation, then headed for the Comedy Warehouse. This was a
    good show, but we were seated on the very top level near the door, so
    the noise from outside made it difficult to hear all of the jokes and
    skits. Headed back to the camper just before midnight, so didn't see
    the New Years celebration.


    Day 9 - Saturday May 2

    Got up later than planned and was moving very slowly. Closed up the
    camper and headed to Trail's End for breakfast. We didn't actually get
    on the road until 11:40. 

    Couldn't get the CB in Tom's car to work, so the ride home was a little
    more lonesome. It also made it harder to communicate needed stops. At
    one point I was leading and suddenly realized I couldn't see Tom in my
    rearview mirror. I slowed way down figuring he would catch up, but it
    was a good 15 minutes before I saw him again. I was in the process of
    trying to figure out how to turn around and head back, to see what kind
    of trouble he had run into, without having him go by us in the other
    direction. It turns out he had heard the safety chain on his trailer
    fall off and had pulled over to reconnect it.

    Stopped at the Comfort Inn at Exit 173 in South Carolina
    (recommendation from this file) at about 9:30 PM. 

    Day 10 and 11 - Sunday May 3 and Monday May 4

    Had breakfast at the motel. They have a continental breakfast of
    cereal, toast, juice, donuts, etc. available in the lobby, that you
    take back to your room. Made it easy to get a quick start. Got back on the
    road about 8:30 - 9:00. The drive today was pretty uneventful. Stopped
    for gas and food a couple of times. 

    Heard of a traffic jam on the CB around supper time so decided to get
    off the highway and find a nice restaurant. After killing a little over
    an hour, we got back on the highway and heard the traffic jam was still
    there :^(. Dug out the maps and plotted a way around the jam on some back
    roads. Glad we did. We could see the highway from one of the roads we
    took and it was at a complete standstill.
    
    We were pretty tired by the time we got to New Jersey, but Tom and I
    kept saying "Well, why don't we get to Connecticut, then stop. That way
    we'll only have a short drive in the morning." Neither of us were
    looking forward to going to bed and facing another day of driving ahead
    of us. Well, by the time we hit Connecticut, it was midnight and
    raining, almost everyone else was sleeping (my son was sitting up with
    me at this point) and we just kept driving. It was soooo appealing to
    wake up in our own beds. We pulled into our driveways about 4:00 AM on
    Monday.

    Overall it was a great trip. Too much to do and too little time to do
    it, but it was fun trying.

    Costs for the trip (for my family of 4):

    Gas		$	179.54	(2860.6 miles)
    Tolls	$	 42.75	(More than normal because of the trailer)
    Hotels	$	363.58  (2 nights at motels; 7 nights FW site @39.60)
    Hoop-de-doo	$	114.48
    Food	$	428.88
    Admission	$	773.40
    Souvenirs	$	119.27
    Other	$	 34.40	(including drinks @ PI)
    Wonders of
    World	$	150.00
			______
    Total	$     2,206.30

     
290.21Lund trip report 3/26 - 4/5/92BROKE::LUNDMon May 18 1992 16:30198
    Lund Trip report - March 26th - April 5th, 1992
    
March 26th - We're off! Finished packing last night; the limo
    picked us up at out front door at 5:00am. Today is also our
    15th Anniversary! We made it to Logan at 6:10. No delays
    on our flight; boarding will start at 6:45. Plane was loaded
    and ready to leave on time. Not very full; this is a direct
    flight by Northwest. They show videos; Today's was "For the Boys"
    we didn't rent head phones. Since most videos are in the 2hr range
    this occupies most of thhe flight. Flying time 2hrs 20 mins!
    WDW Here we come! We landed about 10:15; alittle early.
    Temperature is in mid to upper 70's. Luggage was coming off the
    carousel as we got there. Orlando International Airport knows
    how to do this! We had decided against the car; so we headed
    for Mears Shuttle. $22/RT/each; they had two seats left heading
    for WDW - on property. So we are off. They stopped at the Village
    hotels first; then on to Dixie Landings. We checked in;
    non-smoking; Sorry there are only 49 King-size Beds...we can put
    your name on a waiting list if one frees up. We didn't bother;
    as we didn't want to repack and move to another unit. Our room
    is available; so we are shuttled over there. It's only 11:30am!
    and we are all checked in and ready for the world; 6.5 hrs after
    leaving the house!
    
    I had stitches taken out of my left hand 4/24; and it still
    wasn't healed; so still bandaged; "KEEP IT DRY and CLEAN" meant
    no swimming. And even though I prepared for it; the quick
    change from COLD (it was when we left) NH weather; to warm
    slightly humid near 80 degree temperature; plus the plane ride in
    the middle left me with a nasty headache. So we headed for Epcot.
    Lunch at the Land; checked a few rides out and then headed back
    to Dixie. My head is still pounding. So much for the first day!
    See separate report under Dixie Landings about the resort. Pecan
    rolls are good; still like the cinnamon rolls at CBR. We had the
    chicken stirfry; without mushrooms. (The menu doens't list them;
    but they appear in the stirfry; so if you don't like mushrooms
    mention it!) It's a nice light meal. We also went and picked up the
    schedules from MK and MGM, anc caught part of B&tB from near
    Starring Rolls.

    Now my choice of resorts to stay in are Yacht and Beach Club 
    (2nd choice is Polynesian) if there is a special; Otherwise my
    ordering of places to stay at are Dixie Landings, then CBR; then
    Port Orleans. I like quite and uncrowded. Dixie Landings was
    quiet and peaceful, and spread out; except for the toilets :^).
    CBR is spreadout; but crowded and noisy. PO seemed to be too
    compact(Thats the city!)...
    
3/27 First full day; discovered that we hadn't packed all the essentials;
        (like toothbrush, Stan's jacket and tie, etc... Oh well...
     It's about 55 out; expected to be in the mid-high 70's and no
     rain! We're off to MK; We went in got pictures of the  Mickey/Minnie
     20th anniversary topiary display in front of the castle. Then went back
     to Tony's for breakfast. We spent the whole day here; taking our time
     and enjoying MK. Having been in '89 to DL; '90 to WDW and '91 to WDW
     we didn't need to hurry to get to anything. Went in/rode just about
     everything that we wanted to do; including a couple of times on
     BTMR. Staked out the place across from Liberty Square for the
     Surprise Celebration Parade. This was good. I've got a bunch of
     extra pictures if anyone is interested.
     
     Then went off to The Grand Floridian for Dinner; we had the buffet in
     1900 Park Fare -excellent buffet; Non smoking restauarant; ate around
     5:00 so not very busy yet!

     Peter Pan was the only thing closed for renovations while we were
     there.
     
     Went back over to MK and did some more rides; had some dole whip!
     and waited for Spectro magic. This was a good parade; but the
     pictures didn't come out that good.... I have some extras of these
     too if anyone is interested in them... I posted info about Splash
     Mountain back when I first got back. Headed back to Dixie Landings.
     
     We went in to MK a couple more times for short periods on this trip.
     It really wasn't that busy any day we were there. The Jungle Cruise
     always seemed to have a line; so we didn't do that. I've done it
     several times before so not worth waiting for along line to ride.
     
     The only things not done in MK ever are :
        Main Street Vehicles; Keelboats;
        Dumbo; Fantasy Faire; Mickey's Starland Show; and Theatre;
        Grandma Duck's Farm and the Grand Prix Raceway. 
     
 3/28
    Spent today in Epcot. Nothing new since the last time we were here;
    except for the Surprise in the Skies. Anyhow; had breakfast in the
    Land; took our time and did most of the front half and many of the
    countries. We took the time to watch alot of the street performers
    Norway, Japan, Germany, Gr. Britain, France) etc. These are fun to
    watch when you have the time. We did skip most of the movies (China,
    France, Canada) since we've seen them a couple of times. We watched
    surprise in the skies; it is quite interesting; I don't think you
    can get a really bad spot for this. We had dinner at The Living Seas
    Swordfish with Thai Curry Sauce! Excellent food; just a hint; it is
    normally served over a bed of lentils; if you request the Thai Curry
    Sauce on the side; then it was brought with steamed veggies and 
    some pasta/rice (can't remember). we had the chocolate mousse cake
    for dessert; it was delicious! For two $67.24... Walked around for
    awhile to help dinner wear off!

    Again; there were almost no lines anywhere. I don't know of anything
    in EWpcot that we haven't done on one of our trips. Again we ate a
    late morning breakfast (about 9am) and an early dinner 5:30 pm; so the
    restaurant was not very busy; and had no problems with smoke. I
    think they tend to start seating smokers/non-smokers at opposite
    ends of th restaurant and as it gets busier they fill in the adjoining
    area. Since we eat early; there was never a problem.
    Weather was the same as yesterday. High 50's first thing in the mornin
    and then mid-upper 70's during the day.

3/29

    OK; we headed for MGM today. Very light crowds. We just about walked
    onto everything; and were able to do everything in MGM except for
    The backstage tour; and that was our choice. Started with Indy.
    Now we've seen this quite a few time over the past three years; so the
    jokes and the loud shirt stuff is getting alittle familiar. We've seen
    it from the center; from the far left and from the far right; and during
    the day and at night; so have quite a few different views! Same with
    TGMR, guess we've been going too often.... Got to wiat a few years and
    let the magic build up somemore. Caught B&tB. Got quite a few pictures
    here. I've got extras if anyone is interested. At the end of The
    animation tour are some previews of upcoming films. Including Honey
    I Blew up the kid.... Remember the end of Honey I shrunk the Kids and
    the gigantic turkey.... well get ready for an 18 month old giant running
    lose in the city. Should be a funny movie. Didn't catch the muppets on
    location; thats ok with me; we're not Miss Piggy Fans and no little
    ones with us.
    
    Ate dinner in the Derby; Special was swordfish/with Lobster butter; Stan
    had the Fettucini Derby. Another excellent meal. Can anyone guess what my
    favorite seafood is? 
    
3/30

    Had breakfast at Boatwrights. It was good. The service was good also.
    Interesting way they present your utensils. YOu get a tool box with
    all the necessary tools needed for eating (silverware, crayons for the
    kids, salt and pepper; etc). You take out what you want and they take the
    tool box away. 
    
    Headed for MK for awhile in the morning; then over Fort wilderness;
    checked out Disney Inn, and then back to Epcot for dinner. We ate at
    the Bistro; and I had swordfish. Again it was excellent. We spent the
    2 hours of rain eating at the Bistro. By the time we left it was
    clearing up. Redid several of the rides and then headed back to
    Dixie Landing for quiet evening.
    
3/31

    Back to Epcot; Had breakfast at the land; and a late lunch at
    Alfredo's Caught more of the street performers and the Voices
    of Liberty a couple fo times; redid a few rides (like Norway).
    Back to MGM for the late afternoon and redid some rides like
    Star Tours; then over to MK to get some late pictures. While
    Stan was getting pictures at MGM before it closed; I went over
    to MK and got on Space Mountain; BTMR and the pirates again.
    Met Stan and caught part of the parade again. Went to the
    Concourse Grille in the Contemporary for a late night snack.
    
4/1
    Started out by eating breakfast at the Polynesian ( Banana Stuffed
    French Toast), then went over to Discovery Island. Enjoyed a good
    part of the day here. Headed over to VIllage Market place for awhile;
    then over to the Yacht Clubs Galley for dinner. We get around don't
    we. Strolled thru EPCOT and then back to Dixie Landings.
    
4/2 Got stuff from the bakery and ate light; explored more of Dixie
    Landings and then checked out. Caught Mears back to the airport;
    and then caught the Premier bus over to Port Canaveral for a
    3 night cruise to the outer Abacas. This was an adventure; a
    disaster; and sort of ruined the vacation.... Details in a separate
    note.

    See note 41 for details of the cruise (will be posted in the near future)
        note 289 for dixie landings info (will be posted in the near future)
        
    
    We had a smooth trip home; and arrive back to NH to temperatures
        in the 20's SIGH...
  
  Not sure when the next trip will be; probably not for a few
    years; But then the annual passes expire in late August;
    A long weekend? Need to win Megabucks first!
    
        - Annie
    Now I can file my trip notes away and sleep at night, now that my
    trip report has been entered.
    
    We did not go into Pleasure Island at night; I was concerned if smoking
    was allowed everywhere; or if the clubs had separate sides. From other
    notes I can see that it is not separate like I suspected so It's off
    limits.
    
    We didn't do typhoon lagoon or river country... It's kind of hard
    to enjoy your self when you cannot get your hand wet. 
290.22DL - June 6thMR4DEC::AWILLIAMSSome imagination, huh??Mon Jun 15 1992 21:40254
Skip's Disneyland Trip Report
-----------------------------

WHO:  Me
WHEN: Saturday, June 6th 

I was out in Anaheim for a week to support the Digital booth and some of the
suites for the Design Automation Conference (DAC).  I originally had Sunday to
myself and was planning on spending whatever time I could over in Disneyland
that day, but as things worked out, I had time on my hands Saturday night and
it didn't look like I'd have Sunday free after all so it was off to the park.

I stayed at the Anaheim Hilton, which is very convenient to the Convention
Center and Disneyland.  They run a complimentary shuttle on the half hour, so
at 5 p.m., I hopped on the shuttle and was at the park in 5 minutes.

I bought a one-day pass; with my MKC discount, it cost $26.75.  As I wandered
onto Main Street, my first stop was City Hall for a schedule of events.  I
noted both on the schedule and the goings-on on Main Street that I had just
missed the Living in the USA Cavalcade parade.  Poor timing, because it was
very crowded as the parade has just ended.

Once I got my bearings, I headed over to Critter Country, going through
Adventureland and New Orleans Square on the way.  I wanted to check out the
line for Splash Mountain; it was posted as an hour and a half.  No thanks, I'll
come back later.  Instead, I went around the corner to the Haunted Mansion.  It
was about a 20 minute wait.  The Haunted Mansion has always been a favorite of
mine.  For some reason, the DL version seemed "scarier" in the graveyard scene. 
Maybe it was just louder...

Pirates of the Caribbean was my next destination, but it was temporarily closed
due to those pesky technical difficulties.  The cast member said it might be
open in an hour or two so I would check back later.  I took this opportunity to
stop upstairs and check out the Disney Gallery.  I enjoyed seeing the early
conceptual paintings of the theme park and some later ones, too, like part of
the proposed re-fit of Tomorrowland.  They have some animation cels on display
as well that are also for sale.  Cels from "The Prince and the Pauper" caught
my eye as well as a few from the Disney Afternoon shows, but they're still out
of my budget.

Before I wandered to Frontierland, I checked with a cast member about the best
time to show up for the late, late show (11:45) of Fantasmic! and she told me
about a half hour before showtime.  The first show (8:45) was at least two and
a half hours away but the ropes were already up (which made getting around
difficult at times) and people were staking out prime viewing spots for the
show.  Yikes, definitely try to catch the late, late show if you can.

Anyways, into Frontierland and onto Big Thunder Mountain RR.  A 25 minute wait,
and boy, do I hate kids who jump lines...  But the ride is fun, even if you
don't like roller coasters.  An older woman in a wheelchair was trying to
cajole her friend onto the ride, but had no luck.  The woman though seemed to
have a great time.  I made a mental note to come back after dark because so
many folks in this notesfile have commented how much better it is in the dark.

Fantasyland was next and I had a short wait for Pinocchio's Daring Journey,
which was new to me.  It's a cute ride, but like Snow White, it seems to dwell
on the scarier parts of the film.  After the ride, I wandered through some of
the shops trying to decide what to buy for my baby daughter at home.  I also
took the walking tour of Sleeping Beauty's Castle.  This was pretty neat; I
enjoyed the displays and thought they should have something like this in WDW. 
But it also brought up the age-old question of why King Stefan's Banquet Hall
is in *Cinderella's* Castle in WDW...

I passed through the rest of Fantasyland because most of the other rides I was
interested in had fairly long lines.  Peter Pan's Flight and Alice in
Wonderland were each posted as having 30 minute waits.  So I continued onto
Tomorrowland.

In Tomorrowland, I toured some more of the shops and then got in lines for Star
Tours.  It was posted as a 45 minute wait but was closer to 25.  Being a big
fan of the Star Wars films, I've always enjoyed this ride.  This time I sat in
one of the rear corners so I got tossed around quite a bit but I loved it.  Oh,
and you haven't truly experienced Star Tours until you share a ride with about
20 8-to-10-year-old girls.  They screamed at everything, but seemed to have a
great time.  In fact, we all had a ball...

After Star Tours, I strolled through more shops.  This time, down Main Street. 
Gee, get the impression I'm a big shopper??  Not really, I hardly bought
anything.  But check out the shop windows of the Emporium.  They've set up
displays of different scenes from "Beauty and the Beast".  Anyways, making my
way down the sidewalks of Main Street was an adventure because all the ropes
were up the Main Street Electrical Parade.  I kept looking for cheese... :-) 

Because my time was extremely limited, I decided to bypass the parade and Great
Moments With Mr. Lincoln and get back over to Critter Country for Splash
Mountain.  I hopped aboard the Disneyland RR and got off in New Orleans Square
(ooo, long trip).  The line for Splash Mountain was still an hour long, but now
I was hungry and grabbed a very disappointing turkey sandwich at the Hungry
Bear; it must've sitting in the fridge for a few hours because the condensation
had turned the bottom of the bun into mush.

It was now getting close to the first showing of Fantasmic! so I decided
to check out Pirates and then brave the line for Splash Mountain, hoping that
Fantasmic! would draw away the crowd.  I walked right onto Pirates and it is
superior to its WDW counterpart.  First, because of the two drops.  Second,
there seems to be more put into the displays and they seem to go on longer. 
Also, there were a few things in DL that I don't recall in WDW.  I don't know
what it is exactly, but DL's Pirates made a greater impression than WDW's. 
Also, I made a mental note to eat at the Blue Bayou sometime.  It overlooks the
beginning of Pirates and looks like it has great atmosphere for a quiet dinner.

The first show of Fantasmic! had started by the time I got out and had quite a
crowd gathered.  Now, it was time for Splash Mountain and the line had gone
down considerably.  It turned out to be about a 30-minute wait.  And I imagine
that it only went down from there.  During the last show, it's possible that
you could walk right on.  Don't know for real, didn't try it...  But back to
the ride, as we're boarding, I notice that a family of four is up in the front 
of the "log" and in the back, there's me.  Hmmm... I think I'm gonna get wet... 
The audio-animatronics based on "Song of the South" are cute but the real 
reason you're there is to be dropped from high heights and get wet.  And the 
last drop certainly delivers on this aspect.  I don't recall a flume ride that 
drops from so high; it was great!!  And at night, as you disappear into the 
briar patch, between the mist and the darkness, you don't know when you're 
going to hit bottom (as it were) and make a splash.  Going at night really
seems to add another level to the ride.  But alas, I did suffer a great
tragedy; I lost my favorite hat... :-(  

Has anyone seen a white Jimmy's Grill ball cap from Kapaa, Kauai, Hawaii
floating by whilst riding Splash Mountain??  If so, can you mail it to me...

On my way out of Critter Country, I wanted to stop in the Briar Patch gift shop
to pick up this great Tigger t-shirt I saw for my wife.  It was 10 o'clock and
they were closing.  Closing??  "Well, can I just quickly run in and get a
t-shirt??"  "No."  Grrrrr...  But lady, I just lost my favorite hat on Splash
Mountain.  She told me that the Start Trader in Tomorrowland or the Disney
Clothiers or the Emporium on Main Street would have the shirt.  She lied.  The
only place I could find this same shirt was in the Briar Patch gift shop but
they were closing and wouldn't let me buy the shirt.

Anyways, the first Fantasmic! show was over and people were waiting for
the second to begin so I went over and got in line for Big Thunder.  A 20
minute wait and it was like a different ride at night.  The people in the
notesfile *were* right (not that I had any doubt whatsoever).  Pretty cool.

Now, I had some time on my hands before I wanted to scout out a spot for the 
last show of Fantasmic! so I went to do the shopping I had put off earlier.  I 
bought an outfit for my daughter and tried to find that Tigger t-shirt.  My
quest took me into Tomorrowland but still no luck.  Also, I ran smack dab into
the Electrical Parade with no real easy way around it 'til a fairly large break
between floats.  But now, it was time to stake my claim for a place to watch 
Fantasmic!.  I tried to head into Adventureland to get over to New Orleans
Square but ran into the throngs leaving the second show; Frontierland was the
alternate route.

Once in New Orleans Square, I tried to stand up on the bridge over the entrance
to Pirates but it was already mobbed so I moved on.  I found a spot right down
in front just behind the rope for the sitting area so I sat down 'til it was
show time.  I was generally  amazed at the nerve of some people.  A family in
front of me was "holding" space for others who hadn't shown up.  Actually,
there wasn't any free space; when the rest of them showed up, they just
squeezed in making space tighter for everyone else and nearly stomped on my
hand to get by.  My legs started to fall asleep and there were some cranky
(really, just tired) kids behind me.  I knew there were going to have trouble
seeing around me so as the show was getting ready to begin, I offered my spot
to them and I got up and stood nearer to the back.  It was only about 6-8 feet
back and I actually had a better view because I was standing and not relying on
the whims of the rude people in front of me.  I had a good view of the show but
still feel the bridge over Pirates is the best place to watch it and it's
certainly one of the best video vantage points.

Anyways, so how was the show??  Ehhh, it was okay...  

Just kidding, it was great, super, wonderful... it was... it was... well,
FANTASMIC!!!  Someone had to say it.  

Remember when you first saw the Electrical Parade or Illuminations and you
thought to yourself, "Boy, these Disney folks really know how to do it up
right!!"  Take that feeling and multiply by ten and then, you'll have an idea
of how I feel about Fantasmic!.  It's just a really great show.  The details of
the show are elsewhere in the notesfile (in the DL note, I believe... duhhh...)
so I won't attempt to reproduce the show word for word, event for event, except
to say that the laser and fire effects work very well, as do the mist screens. 
It's easily the biggest and best show the Disney folks have put on so far.  The
music is great; the floats are great; the ships and the way they're used are
great; the pyrotechnics are great; the dragon is great; the whole show is,
well, pretty durn good...

And boy that Mickey Mouse changes costumes fast!!  My favorite Mickey costume:
Steamboat Willie... in black and white yet.  A very nice touch.

Sorry, Mike, but I didn't videotape the show though I wish I had.  I made a
quick decision while packing to leave the camcorder at home.  I was taking
enough stuff already.  But I wish I had a video of the show to play over and
over and... 

And before I knew it, the show was over and it was closing time.  I joined the
masses heading out.  I made a quick stop in the Emporium for a couple of
postcards and another look for that t-shirt.  And then, I headed out the main
gate with the music from Fantasmic! running through my head.  

I thought I had missed the last shuttle back to the hotel and was prepared to
hoof it 'til I saw the van out of the corner of my eye.  A whole family of
eight or so got on with me and an older couple.  One of the little girls was in
a wheelchair and it turned out that her whole family had come up from San Diego
because the Make-A-Wish Foundation had granted her wish of having her family
take the train up to Anaheim and spend the weekend at Disneyland.  I suddenly
missed my wife and baby daughter very, very much...

It's so easy to take things like a trip to Disneyland for granted.

The shuttle dropped us off at the hotel.  I went up to my room and fell quickly
to sleep.

Summary and Tips
----------------

I only had a limited amount of time (7+ hours) and it was a Saturday night so
it was fairly crowded.  I'd be surprised if I hit 20% of the park.  I didn't do
nearly half of what I wanted to do but I did the two biggies:  I rode Splash
Mountain and saw Fantasmic!...  Because of the crowds and long lines, I stuck
with the kinds of rides I knew I'd enjoy.  

I enjoyed myself but would have preferred shorter lines and some company.  My 
next (real) trip probably won't be 'til at least '94 and I've now resolved to
go in the off-season, mainly due to smaller crowds.  

The other thing I noticed, or rather, didn't notice, were the characters. 
Aside from the parades and shows, I didn't see any characters around the park. 
In any of the WDW parks, you could hardly go an hour or so without stumbling on
them.  Maybe it was that I just in the wrong place at the wrong time or there
were fewer out and about because of crowds, who knows??  It just seemed...
different.

A few Fantasmic! pointers...  

	Go to the last show of the night if you can.  If you do this, you 
	can get away with showing up 30 minutes before showtime and still 
        get a real good spot.  If you go to an earlier show, you'll need to
	be there at least an hour in advance, judging by what I saw.  

	If you're videotaping, don't get too close to the shore of the Rivers 
	of America.  Many of the floats/ships travel close to the shore in 
	order to avoid the mist screen hardware, etc., so you could be too 
	close.  To me, the recommended viewing/videoing spot would be on the 
	bridge over the Pirates entrance (which also seems to be everyone 
	else's first choice too).  

	Oh yeah, you get wet if you're on the shore (and beyond) but it's
	just a strong mist.  Even so, videographers have been forewarned.
	You may want to use a clear skylight filter, or the like, to protect 
	your lens.

	And please don't try to save a spot for anyone, even if it's for 
	your kind old grandmother.  It's rude and inconsiderate of those
	who have been patiently waiting around you.  If you want to see the
	show, get there early, sit down and wait like everyone else.

The best time to ride Splash Mountain seems to be during a Fantasmic! show,
unless you can run over there when the park opens.  The later the show, the
shorter the line would be my guess.

Then, I get home and my Disney News with mucho pictures and articles on
EuroDisney is there waiting for me.  And my wife is saying, "That Euro
Disneyland sure looks good..."
290.23DL - May 31stBROKE::LUNDTue Jun 16 1992 12:35190
    Annie and Stan Lund
    Disneyland trip report - May 31st, 1992 
    Annie - DL 1981,'89,'92
    Stan  - DL 1992 (first time)
    Both  - WDW 1984,'85,'90,'91,'92


    Now this is my second trip report this year and the
    third in 10 months! It was really tempting to pick
    up a pair of plane tickets during the airfare
    wars last week and show up at WDW before the annuals
    expire in late August... :^)  But we didn't.... :^(
    
    
    Ok, we spent one VERY LONG day at Disneyland.
    
    On May 31st we got up at 4:00 am; got ready and left
    our hotel in San Diego for the ride north to Anaheim.
    We left at 5am; and arrived in Anaheim about 6:45;
    got the gas refilled so we wouldn't have to do it
    late at night and headed for DL!. We were hungry;
    But...
    
    The parking lot was opened; and the park opened at 8
    so we decided to go in.... Well you know how big the
    parking lot is...; we had the 9th parking spot from
    the canopies in front of the ticket booths. Ah, no
    need to remember where the car is! We didn't have
    tickets; the Disney Store in Pheasant Lane Mall doesn't
    have them there; they have to order them, and it was to late.
    We were second in line for tickets when the booth opened,
    cost: $51 for 2 adult tix with MKC discount.. Then we got
    in line at the main entrance..... We had hoped that it
    would open 1/2 hr early so we could get on main street
    and we could get a muffin at the bakery. When the park
    opens at 8am; they don't open Main St. up early. Only
    earlybird tickets (from hotel or packages) are let in
    early. So we wait.

    Park is open from 8am to midnight.    

    When the park opened we decided to head for Splash Mtn
    first since it was not operating yet in WDW. Still hungry, but
    breakfast can wait. Rode Splash Mtn twice; what the
    heck, we were a little wet after the first time; might as well
    get back and do it again before the crowds form. Basically
    walked on both times. Then we headed for the Matterhorn
    and rode that while there were no lines. 
    
    Finally we headed for Breakfast at Plaza Inn. B&tB as well
    as other characters were there.

    Ah, before I continue with the day's events; I wanted to
    point out some changes in the souvenir guide. We were able
    to pick up an "old" 1992 souvenir guide in one of the shops.
    It didn't mention Fantasmic. At the entrance they give you the
    "new" 1992 souvenir guide. The New Souvenir guide has a fold out.
    On the front page is a night picture of the castle (which by
    the way is much smaller then the WDW one)...
    
        "  As Night Falls 
         Imagination Rises...."
       
    Open the first page and there is a flame on the page that says:
    
        " Brace Yourself For 
           The Journey Into
         Fright And Fantasy..."
         
    Then you open up the foldup and it's got a description of
        Fantasmic; with FANTASMIC! in bright bold letters and
        pictures of dragons, the creature from "Night on Bald Mountain"
        whale from pinochio, and Ursula, and Mickey as the Sorcerers
        Apprentice, and others
        
    Ok.. on to the day's events... after breakfast we headed around
    to the Jungle cruise and rode that. A short 5-10 min. wait. We
    had skipped this down in WDW the last 3 times because the lines
    were too long to wait for. We skipped The Tiki Room and Swiss
    Family Treehouse... We then headed to New Orleans Square and
    did the pirates.... This ride is different then the one in WDW;
    It starts with ride through an area like in Mexico(WDW-EPCOT)
    there is a restaurant here called the Blue Bayou which over looks
    the first part of this ride. The ending of the ride is different
    also; The queuing lines are mostly outside. Had a short wait. Then
    went on to the Haunted Mansion and got right in; later there were
    lines. Went up to see the Gallery and then rode BTMR. After this
    we took the RR over to tomorrowland. Star tours lines were long so
    got on the monorail and headed for The Disneyland hotel. It was
    about 11:00. Don't forget to get a handstamp. We spent
    some time looking around over there and getting some DL souvenirs
    there (accepted MKC card). Disneyland Hotel is listed as an area
    in the DL guide with several attractions and activities and plenty
    of restaurants and shops.
       
    We then headed back to DL. And went and ate in the Blue Bayou for
    lunch. This is a full service restaurant overlooking a Bayou; which
    is part of the beginning of Pirates Ride. We had Monte Cristos ;^).
    and it was nice and cool. After this we started around the park
    from the Adventure land side looking thru the shops. Then onto
    New Orleans Square and in the Gallery asked about the Balcony
    for Fantasmic... Only VIP seating this night.
    
    Then over to Critter Country. We went  over to Tom Sawyers Island.
    After this we walked into the Country Bear Playhouse for vacation
    hoedown. We have been able to basically walk on every ride today;
    with only a small wait 5-10 minutes. I think one ride we had a
    20 minute wait. We take a break and get something cold to drink
    and then we head out to check out the Big Thunder Ranch. Its
    only mid afternoon... :^).
    
    Most of the "selected weekends and seasonal periods only" restaurants
        and refreshments were not open.

    We then headed to fantasy land, we did Snow White and Peter Pan and
    went through the castle; the carousel, and that enough of those type
    rides for us. Took alook at It's a Small World Building; but didn't
    ride it; Videopolis had been filming for part of a telethon;
    then went back and rode the skyway over to tomorrowland.
    
    Rode the wedway people mover and then headed for mainstreet to do
    some browsing through the shops while the shoppers were light.
    Then went and did another ride on he Matterhorn (about 20 min. ride)
    At this point the congestion for the ELP and Fantasmic is starting.
    
    Stan heads out to get jackets from the car; and I head around via
    BTMR :^) to meet Stan at the Blue Bayou for dinner (only full
    service restaurant open on 5/31). It took awhile and the crowds
    were very heavy for the first Fantasmic. The lines all day weren't
    bad; but this was. I think alot of locals were there; as 5/31 may
    have been the last day of seasonal passports (it was).... I think
    they had come in for the evening Fantasmic shows; as the park got
    more and more congested. Had a very relaxing/enjoyable dinner.
    Came out just about 9:30 and faced the exodus of the first Fantasmic
    showing; and were able to get a place on the bridge... See note
    8.167ish for more details on the crowds. We had about an hours wait
    for the 10:30 showing. This is a very good show; we both enjoyed
    it alot! It lasts about 1/2 an hour.... and here's some details;
    but I know theres more I am not remembering. It starts with Mickey
    as the Sor.App. coming out on stage (landing where the checkerboards
    are on Tom Saywers Island). Then the witch(?) from Sleeping Beauty
    comes out and instead of one person more beautiful then her; there
    are three (Sleeping Beauty, Ariel, and Belle); then three barges
    come along with each of these with their princes. There are also
    laser shows on water (like is done in Epcot); then they go away and
    then Ursula appears on a barge (looks very much like the Ursula
    thats in Spectromagic at WDW). and then theres a battle scene;
    and then the Columbia (the Sailing ship) comes and the battle with
    Captain Hook?/Peter Pan takes place; and that goes away and there
    are some more laser/etc type battles where the creature from
    Bald Mountain appears and Ursula; etc; and then Mickey triumphs
    and then the Mark Twain Steamboat appears with all the characters
    on it.... Wow; I can guarantee that this is probably not in order
    as to when things actually happened and there is alot things that
    I have forgotten about.... We'll have to see what the pictures
    look like when we get them back, (we have to send them out for
    processing first!).
    
    We stayed in our place for awhile until the crowd finally
    started moving...
    
    Well it was almost 11:30 by the time we got out to the entrance;
    and we headed out....Tired but Had a great time...
    
    Oh, in the daily Guide for DL:
    
        "SMOKING. For the consideration of others, we ask that you
         please refrain from smoking in line while waiting for an
         attraction, and in popular open-air areas (parades, stage
         shows, etc)."
         
    and in the Safety Considerations in the Souvenir Guide; boldfaced.
    
        "Smoking is not permitted in any attraction or waiting area.
         We thank you for your cooperation and consideration."
         
         
        
    Also the Souvenir Guide for DL has a section called "Healthier Foods"
    and lists all restaurants and refreshments that offer healthier
    items/entrees as well as vegetarian dishes like Vegetable Lasagna
    (Plaza Pavailion); Chilled angel hair pasta primavera (Blue Bayou)
    and Avocado and alfalfa sprout sandwich (Carnation Ice Cream Parlor)
    plus there are more...
    
    
    - Annie 
 
    
290.24WDW April 25 - 8 heavenly daysRAGS::KUSCHERMon Jun 22 1992 01:26694
    First I would like to state that my wife has put the effort into
    writing this trip report.  The fact that this is late is my fault
    because I have not done the editing that was needed to be done as
    my wife is not computer literate and knows nothing of editors. 
    So, Mike blame me not Jackie.

    Ken

    =========================================================
    
    Trip Report from the Kuscher family consisting of Ken (DEC), wife
    Jackie, 23 yr. old son Nat and 13 yr. old son Brian.
    
    April 25, 1992 Saturday

    Up at 6:30 am -- an easy task as some of us so excited we were
    sure we'd only dozed all night instead of sleeping. Limo picked us
    up 8:30. That extra was so worth the money. Took away all the
    anxiety we felt as we do not go into Boston at all so much easier
    this way and much more reliable. Our 13 yr. old had asked for a
    limo ride for a b-day present for years so this surely pleased him
    - he played with the tv all the way down and just loved it. Plane
    took off on time (10:55). Nice smooth flight. Arrived Orlando on
    time (2:00). Rented an Avis car (Intermediate Chevy Lumina). This
    turned out to be a real hassle with trying to fit luggage into
    trunk going to WDW - almost impossible upon leaving WDW.

    Checked into The Vacation Club (rms 1411,1412). WOW!! We never
    expected such a truly beautiful place.  In fact, all 4 of us think
    of the Vacation Club very first when WDW mentioned as we just
    loved it there so much. We were very fortunate as we ended up
    getting a discount with the MK Card plus being Value Season so
    brought it down from $305 to $227 per night. Our very 1st pleasant
    surprise -- man more to follow. We unpacked and video taped the
    rooms 1st before we made it "lived in". If any of you would like
    to see the video we'd be happy to oblige. The whole decor down to
    the smallest detail was truly Key West. We had the 2 bedroom. The
    main condo was one large living, dining and kitchen area with a tv
    and VCR in a kitchen island facing the living room. The kitchen
    had everything you might need except food of course -- Fiesta
    dishes also -- very pretty. Pretty sure the stove and dishwasher
    hadn't been used - forgot to ask how many others had stayed there
    before us as it was so so so sparkling clean it appeared that we
    were the first. The maid service was excellent -- she even loaded
    and ran dishwasher for us.  Off of the living room was a good size
    deck (Mickey ears on slats of course) with a white plastic table
    and 4 chairs and from there could also enter our master bedroom.
    The Venetian slats on all the windows were a beautiful heavy wood
    -- worked just like ours here at our house!!Off the front hall to
    the left was the door into the boys rooms. They had 2 queen beds,
    table and 2 chairs and an armoire with TV in it -- off their
    bedroom was their deck - same but about half the size of ours.
    They also had a sink/refrigerator/microwave/coffeepot in a small
    hallway to their bathroom. Their bathroom small but very nice.
    Back to our entryway (left to boys room, straight to living room
    kitchen area etc.) and to the right was a hall. First door on
    right a laundry room complete with a full size washer and dryer,
    an ironing board and iron and a box of laundry detergent. Straight 
    ahead was our bedroom/bath area (and we do mean area!).Our bedroom
    was simply beautiful -- a king size bed, night stands, a chair and
    an armoire with a tv in it of course. In the next area was a
    Jacuzzi, a sink, a corner cabinet and a large closet with a safe
    in one wall of it.  Then on to a door which led into a beautiful
    good size bathroom -- large shower stall, toilet and large sink
    area. We are so happy that we had such beautiful accommodations as
    we don't take any trips so for us this was a real 15th anniversary
    treat. We did also appreciate the condo when we had rest time and
    entertainment time there. All 4 of us just felt very happy and
    relaxed at our place. It was so nice to come back to such a quiet
    peaceful environment. As we sat on our deck we had such a
    beautiful view to look at. The grounds were outstanding(pretty as
    a picture) and part of the Buena Vista golf course (17th hole) ran
    past us.  We also had our friendly ducks that were fed so very
    well as you can imagine!! Just an opening of the door to the deck
    brought them running also with the birds that would come eat out
    of your hand.

    After unpacking and doing a lot of ohing and ahing we drove around
    a bit. This being our first visit we got lost rather easily but
    had fun. Ended up over at Pleasure Island eating at Portobello
    (thanks to all of you who suggested this place in the notes
    files). We just had another fantastic experience. It was the best
    meal we had the whole trip there. What a way to start a vacation.
    For 4 of us $128 (tip $16 included). Got back to condo around 9 -
    ohed and ahed some more then Ken and Jackie out to find  Goodings
    to food shop. Thought the prices reflected who they were selling
    to (people like us who had no alternatives so to speak!!).
    However, their prepared foods we enjoyed. Basically crashed to bed
    around midnight.

    April 26 -- Sunday
    
    We all up and had breakfast in our kitchen then off (drove car) to
    Magic Kingdom. We met good friends (Paul and Suzie) who live in
    Tampa there at 9:15. Yea, never actually made a park at 9 or
    before except one day! We all chatted and Ken made reservations
    for Diamond Horseshoe Review for 4:45. Boys took off right away
    (forgot to firm up a time and place to meet later - UG - great
    start). Good thing they are old enough that we were more angry
    than worried.

    So off we started -- walking up main street for the first time -
    that is truly an experience that tops no other. The beauty and
    excitement with all the shops and the happy people walking toward
    the castle is really something so special - wonder just how our
    faces really looked -- bet full of happiness and awe. We only
    popped in and out of stores quickly as we knew we'd be back to
    shop. We 4 started at the tree house - loved it - so clever and
    fun -- shopped for hats which was fun but none of us actually
    bought one.  Next stop was the Tiki Birds. Know that the majority
    of people told us not to waste our time - but ---- We had a great
    time. This will go down forever as one of the very very happy
    memories for Jackie. Jackie, Ken, Paul & Suzie sat in the back
    thank goodness. Jackie and Paul are the laughers of the group - so
    - we got started laughing and trying to hold it in - got
    impossible. The jubilant singing of flowers; the ominous screaming
    totem poles are a sight to behold as was the frenzied crescendo of
    the Tiki birds totaling a very very very loud 225 noise makers.  A
    truly one time only experience for us.

    Then over to do the Jungle Cruise - it was about 10:00 and the
    line was just outside the building area so we walked and walked
    and walked the (soon to become so familiar) roped areas weaving
    back and forth. Took us no time to figure out this was the best
    way to think the wait would not be too long. After all, would you
    on your own walk up and down a room for a half an hour just to
    make yourself feel better about lines and waiting??  We also
    thought it was so much better than having to wait anywhere else.
    They keep you amused and entertained as you wait -- different way
    at different places but a sure bet so mood overall much better for
    everyone. We loved the Jungle Cruise (Ken took very good video of
    it) and had lots of laughs along the way - very entertaining and
    clever.

    Then on to the Pirates of the Caribbean.  We really really like
    this. Thought after one time through that it has to be done more
    than once to see all of it - there's so much to see and it's so
    clever that we found ourselves promising to make a trip back to do
    it again.  The song has now become a permanent fixture in Jackie's
    head - popping out at the strangest times like baseball games. 
    Ken bought the cassette for Jackie with her promise not to drive
    everyone craze singing it all the time.

    Decided to go see Country Bear Jamboree (can't tell if its the old
    show returned as our first time) and thoroughly enjoyed it - very
    cute and worth doing (Suzie & Paul didn't do it - guess Tiki
    experience enough for Suzie) - but thought they missed something
    fun - their loss. Thanks again to all of you in notes file as
    probably wouldn't have gone into it without your information to go
    on.

    Off to find the Monte Cristo Sandwich mentioned so often in notes
    file. Tried Columbia House - no luck! So off to Haunted Mansion.
    Absolutely no lines - walked right in (about noon). Loved it -
    loved it - loved it. We did see many tombstones with some familiar
    names on them. This was another we said we'd do again.

    Time to give concerted effort to finding boys. Knew they were off
    to Space Mountain so we decided to head further to that area at
    this point. Pretty much a waste of time - no boys but did see
    parts to either do or not do another day back. Getting hungry so 4
    of us to Tonys in Town Square. Our friends P & S decided to treat
    us so we did the tip. One very odd thing - we waited about 15
    minutes for a table but we could very well see that there were
    plenty of tables and plenty of wait persons to go around. When we
    were seated our friend Suzie asked about this -- our waitress very
    friendly and politely explained it to us -- made absolutely no
    sense to any of us at all!! So much for people/table/wait person
    ratio/rational. Our lunch was simply delicious and the desserts
    out of this world (have forgotten dessert but will ask friends
    going in June to check out for us). We 4 had but one problem only
    - it was really freezing cold in the restaurant.

    Our friends left after lunch just as the afternoon Surprise Parade
    started. Ken videoed and Jackie started taking pictures but the sun          
    had become too hot for her (forgot sun screen as so cool in am) so
    she went back up onto the front porch of Tonys and sat in the
    shade watching this most wonderful parade. They had 2 high school
    bands there that came in first and then the parade. It was so
    colorful, big, happy and fun - a neat experience to see. After
    parade walked back up Main Street browsing and taking photos on
    our way to Hall of Presidents. We really enjoyed that. We are a
    family interested in history and politics and Ken is from Philly
    so he much wanted to try it although lots of folks nixed it. Well,
    we though it was well done and interesting. The anamatronics were
    fantastic as far as we were concerned. Remember folks - this was
    our first ever for these type things and feel fortunate as we
    enjoyed everything so so much.

    Off to wait outside of Horseshoe Jamboree a while to see if boys
    showed up - nope! So we went in to the 4:45 show. WE REALLY REALLY
    LOVED THIS Ken taped this and we will probably look at this many
    times. Fast moving, funny funny funny, clever and just plain good.
    Do not have to have a lunch so had drink and a cookie.

    By now decided we'd better bus back to Vacation Club to see if we
    can find our boys. Took ferry over to TTC and then got car to
    drive back. As usual hardly anyone on ferry and we sat by
    ourselves and low and behold a family with a most obnoxious boy
    sat right next to us. For any of you who will not go with Jackie
    to restaurants because obnoxious kids are drawn to her will also
    notice this same phenomenon occurred at WDW repeatedly - no way
    would this not happen even in a fairyland. No wonder our boys made
    themselves scarce. Got back to VC about 6:45 and found a note left
    by boys that they had come back there, swam, played some tennis
    and went back to MK - said they'd be in Town Square 7:30. OK some
    fast turnaround necessary - hustled back outside to catch bus
    which was really close to our place and got on at 7. Entertained
    some young folks with little ones when we said we'd lost our boys
    9 hours ago - such a look on their faces - yes, told them ages
    after a few minutes - had some fun and good conversation with them
    - they had little ones which were very well behaved which was
    nice. Amazing as it may seem but we actually arrived in Town
    Square at 7:30 and while looking for boys they suddenly appeared -
    hooray. By the time we realized that time was slipping away, as we
    had lots to catch up on, it was too late to go over to Hall of
    Presidents to get spot for SpectroMagic so decided to just stay
    put - standing right under railroad station. Family of children
    and mom sitting on curb waiting. Anticipated mom would stand up
    when parade started but with where we stood no problem to be able
    to see.  UNTIL THE DREADED LAST MINUTE RUDE FAMILY.  Jackie is 5',
    Brian 5'1". Behind us stood the tallest living white man and his
    family including a senior citizen. Just as parade starts sure
    enough they come up to us and try to push us aside. Jackie has had
    plenty of years (obvious because of height) of training for just
    such an event - Brian willing to let them push in - nope, not on
    you life. Nat (our 23 yr. old) ever the ready to defend his mom,
    later said it was rather amusing to watch as this man tried and
    tried to push us aside but wonder arms was there - man gave plenty
    of dirty looks and kept pushing his senior forward - it almost
    ruined the parade to be quite honest but this parade so so so
    fantastic that nothing could spoil it. This was definitely
    Jackie's favorite and Ken videoed it all which came out very good -          
    watched several times since we've come home. Know people who have
    seen both say this music isn't as good as Electric but for us
    having only seen this we just loved the music. Won't spoil the
    parade by giving details but if anyone wants more info let us
    know. We were hoping to see it again but for some reason it never
    was done again near end of week when we would have gone back. Ah,
    the lights blinking, twinkling, blinking, twinkling was so
    magical. Disappointed to find out that fireworks ended last night
    and won't be done again till summer season - darn. Back to VC and
    late supper there.


    4-27 Monday

    Nat and Ken up and off at 7:30 to play golf on the Lake Buena
    Vista Golf Course.  Jackie got up to see them off but Brian by now
    exhausted so he dragged himself up around 10. Brian and Jackie had
    a nice leisurely breakfast out on our deck - feeding ducks and
    birds and taking photos. It was a nice time for us as we also did
    some reading on WDW to try and plan for rest of week. We finally
    got ourselves off on bus and went over to the Marketplace to
    window-shop (Ken had MK card with him for golf). We ate lunch at
    Minnies - lots of decent food and really good price. Got back to
    condo and Ken and Nat had arrived back from golfing - they had a
    great time (2 other men joined them) and were reluctant to tell
    just how many balls they had lost but who cares - just having
    played at WDW was the fun for them.  The golf at WDW is just
    outstanding,  this is also a place to take a golfing vacation as
    there are five different courses to play.  Ken and Nat only played
    the Buena Vista course.  This is one of the courses used in the
    Walt Disney World Classic Golf Tournament.  Just think of it a
    Golfing Vacation and on your days off from golf you can go to
    Magic Kingmdom or EPCOT or MGM or....

    We then all decided to bop back to Marketplace as we now have the
    MK card. Decided to drive over as time running out and from our
    place it takes about 1/2 hr. to get anywhere -- VC plans to get
    its own bus in the near future so that will be nice for future
    visitors. Did some shopping at Marketplace and boys went out on
    the Sprites for 1/2 hr. They had a really great time - seems older
    brother soaked younger brother but they were both laughing so for
    once younger one didn't mind being on the loosing end. Back to
    condo. Brian swam in pool - he did that a lot - that being one of
    the major highlights of this trip for Brian. Other 3 of us napped.

    Off to Hoop-de-doo for 10:00 show.  We got another pleasant
    surprise before the show. While waiting outside we suddenly heard
    the most enchanting music and saw that people were walking over to
    see something. So, ever the curious, we followed. We saw (and Ken
    taped) the Electric Water Pageant. What a spectacular beautiful
    sight - wow - luckily saw it again from Poly. We were surprised
    again to find we had seats right down in the front at HDD. Thanks
    to all of you who convinced us to do this even though we had 2
    boys who were actually dreading doing this. The best part for us
    was the fact that not only did we have a great time but both the
    boys had a super time and Nat tells everyone that that was the
    thing he enjoyed the most!! We all 4 taped the show as trying to
    eat at the same time - found the food very good and our ribs not
    greasy as some in notes files had had. An experience we will long
    remember to bring smiles to our faces. Late to sleep - after
    winding down about 1:30!!


    4-28 Tuesday (cold and windy) (wind chill seemed -30)
    
    Four of us bussed over to Epcot arriving about 9:30. Went and
    stood in the wind tunnel (line for the Space Ship Earth) and froze
    as the wind whipped us. Enjoyed the ride but saw no lines couple
    of other days about 2 or 3 p.m. and wished we'd done it them.
    First off through the Communicore West and into the Living Seas.
    We really enjoyed this - in fact probably stayed too long but am
    glad we did it then as probably time restraints other times would
    have made us cut time there so worked out for the best. Then off
    to The Land. The boys decided to go off on their own direction and
    they ended up passing us leaving Figment as we were going in -
    they really like it. We did a big weave to and fro at Land but
    always kept moving and it wasn't really too bad (about 1/2 hr.)
    and well worth the wait. Jackie thought this was the place she
    learned more than any of the other things she did at Epcot. 
    Decided to do Captain EO at another time so walked over towards
    World. Got on a bus (double decker) that drove us around via
    Mexico way and got off at Italy and then walked to Japan to go
    have lunch at the Tempura Bar.  This was the 2nd best meal all
    trip for Ken and Jackie. The room is very small and most people in
    there were oriental -- we felt a bit intimidated at first and
    hoped they'd let us use a fork -- sure enough, starting with a
    nice warm hand towel our waitress was so very pleasant and nice we
    soon forgot we were using the fork she gave us. We shared a
    platter for two of several things. We were so clever watching what
    others did before we got ours but alas our waitress so nicely
    quietly instructed us as to what we were to do. A most pleasant
    enjoyable and sumptuous meal - so glad we went there. After eating
    went downstairs to the big shop and Jackie bought a Bonsai ($30
    including tax) and had them send it up front to pickup. That is a
    nice service Epcot offers but remember it must be no later than 3
    hours before Epcot closes.

    Had made plans to all hook up at the Land at 2:45 to see the
    afternoon air show but it was so windy they canceled it (ended up
    Ken only one of us who eventually saw it). We all decided to do
    Captain EO - that was really quite fascinating, clever and good to
    say the very least - would recommend everyone seeing it - only
    drawback was the loudness - it really is terribly loud. We all
    getting tired by then so back to condo. Brian swam in pool of
    course (no matter how cold it was!). We had supper at our condo
    and then Jackie called a friend in Tampa to tell her we just
    couldn't get together (we'd already determined that there was no
    way we'd be able to do even 3/4 of the things we'd wanted to do).
    Then Ken and Jackie drove over to Epcot to pick up the Bonsai at
    pickup. They told us at the gate to take the first right (that's
    where the buses and campers and handicapped parking is) so Ken
    basically lived parked and Jackie went and got her bonsai. We then
    decided to drive around and check out some of the other hotels.
    Went to Poly, Disney Inn, Floridian and Contemporary -- they are
    all so different and interesting - just fun seeing such diversity
    in such an enclosed area. Back to condo - asked the boys if they
    wanted to go to Pleasure Island - they declined - a couple of
    poops! So Ken and Jackie took the water taxi from VC at 8:30 over
    to PI. What a fun atmosphere to be in. There are clubs lining both
    sides of a street with music coming to surround you. There were
    some truly great dancers (4) doing dirty dancing as a promo for
    the larger dancing done up at the far end on the stage. They sure
    can fit a lot of activity, fun, music, dancing, shopping etc. into
    a small area. We walked up and down in and out taking it all in.
    Was disappointed when we got to the Adventurers Club (1 of 2
    things Jackie had really planned to do) to find that there was
    some sort of private party - the butler who greeted us was in part
    and we had some entertaining conversation with him but the bottom
    line was we just were not able to hear or get anywhere near any of
    the main part. Decided to go do the Comedy Club. While waiting in
    line outside we were right next to the stage and got a wonderful
    earful of a very good band playing all types of songs very very
    well - almost didn't want to go into the Comedy Club. The Comedy
    Club apparently has different shows at different times. We had
    hoped to see the one we'd read about in the notes files where they
    do a lot of jokes about WDW. We saw the improvisational one. It
    was very good with lots of audience participation. Of the 4 on
    stage 2 were really very good while the other 2 were ok. After
    that stopped into Neon Armidillo - Jackie had a most difficult
    time seeing as the bar upstairs was about to her eye level - oh
    well, music very good. Went outside for the New Years Celebration
    - fireworks and confetti absolutely everywhere - seemed like it
    continually fell from the sky! Decided to walk back down the
    street and get some gooey dessert at D-Zerta. Sat outside at
    tables they have set up and ate our delicious purchases and
    watched people having fun. As it got later crowd got younger so
    took bus back to condo and once again flopped into bed - once
    again too tired to even use jacuzzi (ended up that all of us only
    got to use jacuzzi once as we were either too tired and just
    didn't have time -- unbelievable).


    4-29 Wednesday (cool but sunny - 70 plus)

    We were pleasantly surprised again!! Went over to the restaurant
    at our place to have breakfast and entered into the magical world
    of a Character Breakfast. Ken was the only one of the 4 of us who
    wanted to stay - thank goodness he persisted because we had the
    best time with Pooh and Tiger - have some simply great photos and
    video of if. That's one time again when we were lucky because we
    definitely had not planned on doing a Character breakfast. Yes,
    it's sinking in now - just as everyone in the notes files had
    indicated - yup, we were definitely in a magical place where it's            
    almost impossible to not have a good time no matter what you are
    doing.

    Boys stayed around our place doing their thing (pool, tennis,
    Marketplace, etc.). Ken and Jackie took off for Epcot to forge
    forth again. That place really is too big! Just walking from the
    front entry is a hike in itself - seems like 1/2 hr. of walking
    just to get to the place you want to be at (example: arrival to
    Germany). We decided to do Universe of Energy - Ken like the dinos
    - but we both felt we had wasted 45 minutes - didn't learn a thing
    and it basically struck us as just a big ad. Then over to Wonders
    of Life - we really enjoyed Cranium Command and wished Brian and
    Nat were with us. It seems it would be a wonderful tool for
    parents to be able to get through that tumultuous time frame. 
    Went into Kitchen Kabaret - cute enough.  Took the monorail over
    to MK - sat in the front. Easily done - all you have to do is name
    the 7 dwarfs. Actually, all you have to do is ask the cast member
    in charge and if there are others before you just wait till the
    next one to come along - it's not a long wait by any means. We did
    have a cast member who was enjoying his job (he was also studying
    his book to become a pilot) and so determined that Jackie should
    have to name the 7 dwarfs to be able to get a front seat - took a
    little bit of time to come up with the 7th one but was able to
    succeed - his next test was harder - wanted to know all the names
    for the EPCOT logo we'd heard!

    When we got to MK decided to take the train around - did 1-1/4
    around to see it all then got off in Frontier Land. Went to
    Liberty Square to have lunch at the Liberty Tree Inn. Well - there
    it happened. The only disgruntled, disagreeable person in all of
    WDW and it was truly annoying. This senior citizen Mary who was
    the hostess with the leastess was our greeter at the door -
    observed her with others as we waited to be seated and she truly
    was just a dour sourpuss. We had been told by others that this was
    a nice relaxing place to eat lunch - well, once again the Jackie
    spell took over - sure all tired screaming kids at WDW were in the
    same "small" room we were in. The sandwiches were delicious so
    will remember the delicious food as the memory for Liberty Tree
    Inn.

    Went over to Future World and did Wedway (Jackie like ok, Ken
    really liked it) and understand why people in summer find this a
    very good way to take a nice cool break. Did Mission to Mars and
    both of us didn't like it at all (a waste of time). Off to
    Dreamflight - we both enjoyed that very much. Then we bopped back
    over to Adventure Land to Aloha Isle for a Dole Whip. Yes,
    everyone - thanks for the tip - it tasted delicious - wanted to
    try the other one (vanilla) but never had the opportunity again -
    darn. Went up to the Castle - the shop in there is definitely
    interesting. Back to condo at 5. Boys had gone to MGM - they did
    Indiana Jones and loved it, Nat got fooled at just the right time. 
    They also did Star Tours.

    We all then off to the Poly to see the Polynesian Review. We all
    enjoyed it very much (food was really delicious and had them bring
    more) although don't think we'd do it again if we were lucky
    enough to get to go back to WDW. Brian taped all of the show.


    4-30 Thursday

    Our friend Paul arrived about 8:30 and after showing him around
    our place inside and out and having the last cup of coffee we took
    off for Sea World. We were lucky as we had 5 free passes.

    We first did Terrors of the Deep (shark show). All the men loved
    it. In this place you basically walk through a glass tunnel with
    sharks all around you. Then over to the Shamu Show (K taped) -
    very good show but too short (1/2 hr.) and boys sat down front to
    get wet. They were disappointed as they didn't get wet - not many
    did - guess because the temp. on the low side. Ate lunch at
    Tropical Reef (ok cheeseburgers fries type meal) and found the
    only restaurant that any of us had ever been to that did not have
    straws! No explanation - just no straws. Off to Sea Lion and Otter
    show (J taped) - really a funny show - we 5 really enjoyed it a
    lot. Jackie then dragged 4 guys off to see penguins (K taped) -
    everyone enjoyed them also.

    Left to head off to Belz Factory Outlet which Jackie had read
    about in notes files. Guess she didn't read well enough as we
    ended up all over the place trying to get to it (could see it -
    but can't get there from here) and then when we finally got there
    who knew it was so huge!! Now people are getting rather fed up but
    still holding tempers. Jackie had to find the right place or else
    - luckily found a lady who knew which building. For any of you who
    want to know --- it's the Character Shop in Building 2. The
    Character Shop is definitely definitely worth getting lost even to
    eventually get there. True to form it really seemed a true outlet
    - a rack of some type of shirt only in one size etc. But can get
    some very very good deals.

    Got back to Condo 5ish. We needed a rest so sat out on our patio
    and had drinks and cheese/crackers for about an hour. We then
    decided to head over to Yacht and Beach Club resorts to check it
    out for supper and also to go to Beaches and Cream we'd heard so
    much about. The Yacht and Beach Club resorts seemed rather formal
    to us as we walked about - pretty as Disney is - but a bit formal.
    We did end up having some awesome cheeseburgers at Beaches and
    Cream - that place is a must do. The interior decorated in 50's
    and a lot of fun inside - an arcade attached to it (played
    pinballs a bit). The dessert we ordered to share was the Milky Way
    Cake ice cream - to die for!! It was great. We only had one small
    problem there - the worst family in the US was there. They were
    unbelievable - 2 children basically acting like total terrors and
    the amazing part was that they were so bad and so loud that
    absolutely everyone (including employees) just continued to stare
    at them. They apparently thought they were in their own private
    plastic bubble as we could not figure out how they could possibly
    not know the thoughts of everyone surrounding them - some brave
    folks actually said very very rude things to this family but got
    no response. It was really a shame because that was a nice fun
    place to be and it did spoil it for all of us there at that time--
    good luck to any of you who do go there - we feel it definitely
    worth going to. Paul then back to Tampa.


    5-1 Friday

    Got up and out to Typhoon Lagoon (Ken Jackie & Brian) before it
    opened at 10. Lots of people waiting outside. Then only one
    entrance so feel really herded - then get in and another wait -
    then everyone just about runs to get a spot (chair, lounging
    etc.). This was quite a spectacle. We got 3 chairs under an
    umbrella just to the right of the big wave so were set fine. Brian
    got into the tube ride first and off he went. Ken went to rent a
    locker for our stuff (that took him a good 45 min.). Ken walked
    around the place a bit seeing everything and then Jackie did - it
    actually isn't so very big so a trip around the place doesn't take
    much time at all. When Jackie returned to chairs there sat Brian.
    We'd been there 2 hours and Brian ready to leave. He feels he has
    just as good places he gets to go to here back home so had done
    what he wanted there and felt that was enough. Jackie happy as not
    much to her liking and could think of other things to do
    naturally.

    Got back to Condo - had some lunch and then boys decided to play
    some tennis and swim so Ken & Jackie rented one the boats (1 hr.
    $20) to go exploring through the canals. That was a lot of fun.
    They told us they will be making more canals in the future as
    people seem to really enjoy doing this. There was lots of boat
    activity while we were out from other places. We went over and
    checked out Port Orleans and Dixie Landings. We have friends going
    in June to Port Orleans so took video for them to see.
    Unfortunately needed to get back so didn't get over to Marketplace
    and PI by boat - oh well.

    Jackie, Ken & Brian then drove over to Epcot.  Ken & Brian did
    Horizons which Brian had done and wanted to show his dad and then
    Ken showed Brian Cranium Command which Brian really enjoyed.
    Jackie went to England and spent a lot of time there (her
    heritage). The show they put on in the town square was fun and the
    crowds joined in and had a great time. Found some momentoes but
    wasn't able to touch anything in Scotland (also heritage) as
    prices a bit too steep. Then over to International Shops and
    bought some things there. The gals there very nice as they
    packaged up stuff Jackie bought there along with stuff bought at
    England and sent it up to pickup. Headed over to meet Ken & Brian
    at America at 5 and bumped into Nat coming out of Morocco. We (J &
    N) spent some fun time there - the Moroccan group of entertainers
    had themselves a lively group to join in (a group of about 8
    teenage girls who joined in the fun) with their performing and
    then waving the crowd in a bit - more entertaining - more waving
    in - and on and on. Ken & Brian had gone over to France (B taking
    French in school so was interested in seeing France). Nat and
    Jackie sat outside America and watched a simply fantastic
    performance by the International dancers and singers -- they were
    awesome (1/2 hr. show) along with Goofy, Mickey and  Minnie. We
    all 4 met up at 6:30 in Germany for our supper reservation. Jackie
    taped, Ken taped, Brian taped and Nat taped - had to as we tried
    to eat at the same time as they did their performance. Show was
    very good - very worth doing. Ken really enjoyed it as it is his
    heritage and we sat at the same table with some other Germans so
    had a good time.

    We then down to Mexico to watch Illuminations - got there too late
    to get a table but stood outside next to building and did enjoy
    the show a lot. Last minute a group showed up with a man in a
    wheelchair and gave Jackie (always her!) the look (make room for
    wheelchair). Jackie no taller than man in wheelchair so once again
    stood her ground - only to discover that upon turning around
    during the show there was the man standing up just fine. What a
    truly spectacular event that was. Thank goodness they turned off
    those ugly things!! Ken taped it and it came out pretty good.


    5-2 Sat (last full day)
    
    Jackie Ken & Brian took bus over to MK (bus really crowded for 1st
    time we'd seen all week) and got there 8:30. Main Street open and
    a couple of rides we were not interested in (had we known that
    would not have made it to MK so early). We waited by bridge in a
    crowd to get into Adventureland. We did Pirates (one of Jackie's
    favorites) as Brian hadn't done yet and then Ken and Brian did
    Thunder Mtn. Ken did fine!! We then went into Haunted Mansion
    again as Brian hadn't done that as yet also. Actually think Brian
    only just liked Haunted Mansion as he'd hoped to be scarred even
    though we told him not to expect to be. Jackie & Ken loved Pirates
    and Haunted Mansion. Around 10:15ish so decided to go to Poly for
    the infamous French toast with banana inside. Took monorail over
    to Poly. Got in just before 11 and they were not letting in any
    more after 11. Place was empty except for just a few tables.
    Decided to get buffet and make just one order of French toast.
    That worked out well as Brian took one look and decided too sweet
    to even take one bit - Jackie had 2 bites without syrup - Ken
    finished it off with syrup (he loved it and has made it here at
    home now). We decided to go off our separate ways being the last
    day so we could all do whatever we wanted either again or for
    first time. Brian went back to MK, Ken to Epcot and Jackie back to
    Condo to rest a bit (yup, feet and body beginning to wear down to            
    say the least).B back to condo about 1:30 and spent more time in
    the pool.

    Jackie caught a bus at 3 to meet up with Ken at 4 at Germany --
    took Jackie exactly that 1 hour to make it at 4 -- and Ken not
    there till 4:25!! (he'd gotten stuck in the show in America). Ken
    and Jackie took some time to really look around and enjoy Germany
    and got some goodies for our Xmas tree. We then went over to
    America and listened to the singers inside which was excellent. We
    then watched the international dancers as Jackie wanted Ken to see
    - he did enjoy it as well. We then off to Norway to do Maelstrom.
    That was great (wish the boys had been with us).  Then off to
    stake out the table at Mexico for Illuminations. Was that ever a
    chore!! This is no easy task to get a table and keep it. We got
    there and got some food and a table about 7. The tables by the
    front already taken (most do not leave) so we got a table in the
    back against the back of the building. Many many people try to
    take tables and chairs already occupied. One lady at table in
    front of us had to fight off a guy who came by quickly and grabbed
    her husbands chair (he off to get some food) - they had a
    tug-of-war going - unbelievable. By this time all of us had become
    pretty much bonded so gave her applause as she hung on to win the
    battle.  Many people come in about 7:45 - they have been told as
    they enter front gates that there are no tables left - and get a
    little bit to eat and then try to make people move from their
    tables - however we all knew they'd been told and didn't budge.
    Employee comes by and puts down the umbrellas and we get excited
    it's about to begin. Once again Jackie gets put upon. A senior
    citizen couple decide to displace Jackie. GAD - why me all the
    time? Jackie finally tells them (they are now directly upon her)
    she's waited over an hour to see this and they should move
    somewhere else. The only way we'd do that again is to know that
    the show would be the same - yes, in the long run it was worth the
    aggravation. Boys got there just about as show to start.  We were
    very slow to leave this night - such a beautiful atmosphere and
    feeling it was so hard to leave knowing this was it for us.

    When Ken had left from Poly he'd monorailed to MK, then to the
    Contemporary and got off and looked around a bit -- not impressed
    with the contemporary but it is definitely a sight to see the
    Monorail go through the lobby -- then monorail to TTC then monorail
    to Epcot. At Epcot went into Communicore West to see Robot   
    exhibit - he had Robot do a Pluto shirt for Jackie for Mothers
    Day. He then did Circlevision in Canada.  This was a very                    
    interesting film. They use 9 cameras to film this and it gives you
    the feeling that you are in an airplane with windows all the way
    around.  It is quite interesting to watch whats coming up and then
    look to the  the side and see it go by and then look behind and
    see what you just went by.  This really does give you the feeling
    that you are traveling. Ken then went into England and
    international shops and watched afternoon air show (Ken only one
    of us to catch this) - The air show was a fun thing to watch. 
    This I would recommend for anybody with small children. then off
    to America and then met Jackie at Germany at 4:25.

    Our last night - we sat outside on our patio watching the green
    strobe lights from PI, listened to the ever present Whip-O-Will
    and talked about out fantastic week at WDW


    5-3 Sunday
    
    We all up around 8. Packed almost in silence as the depression had
    started really setting in. Had one heck of a time packing our car
    with all our bags plus all the stuff we'd purchased (had it been
    that much?). Went into Hospitality House to ask if there may be
    any way they could help - they offered that they could call Mears
    and add one of us and bags if we needed just in case. Well,
    finally got everything squished in with no room to spare (just 2
    of us strapped to roof!). We then went over to our restaurant
    (Conch Flats) for an early lunch. The cheeseburgers at our place
    were definitely the best we'd ever had. Our waitress reminisced
    with us about our week and the Character Breakfast we fallen upon
    and loved so we ended up with smiles on our faces pretty much for
    our last WDW meal. Got ourselves to airport in plenty of time
    before our 2:00 flight. Easy flight home and very nice to have
    limo waiting for us - all of us really quiet on ride back to
    Merrimack. Our son Nat moved out to share an apartment with a
    friend which we knew was going to happen but he did it as soon as
    we got home. Probably for the best as we so exhausted no energy
    for tears.

    We end by saying to all of you who took time to put your trip
    reports and notes into the file a huge huge thank you. The
    information was immeasurable for us. This is really terribly long
    and of course so much was not even put in but expect and look
    foreward to anyone asking us for more infor and we will be very
    happy to give details needed to help anyone.

290.25Disney World June 21-25AUKLET::MEIERWhere do the mermaids stand?Wed Jul 08 1992 20:01160
My husband Bill and I recently came back from our longest vacation to date.  It
was wonderful, and diverse in its diversions :-)

The following is a summary, including highlights and points of interest
for our recently completed trip to Orlando and Walt Disney World.

The purpose of our trip was to attend the National Insulator Association
convention at the Orlando Airport Marriott on Friday June 19 through Sunday
June 21, and bring with us our exhibit, to be displayed at the convention.  This
meant we needed to drive.  While in the area, we decided to spend some time at
Walt Disney World, with emphasis on seeing attractions new since our last
visit, in 1986, as well as the attractions we wanted to re-experience.

On Sunday, June 21 we left the insulator show and went off to the Walt
Disney World Dolphin hotel, run by Sheraton.  We checked in, checked out our
surroundings, and ate dinner.  Bill loved playing with the kiddie place mats
they had at the Coral Cafe; they were plastic with a liquid and little fishies
in them.  Our room was located on the bottom floor, and we had a sliding glass
door that opened to a little patio.  There was also water, which was used by
the boats connecting the Dolphin/Swan and Yacht/Beach Clubs to Disney MGM.
We could see (and hear, toot toot!) the boats, and we could see the trams that
run to Epcot.  We hopped aboard the tram (from the tram stop, of course!) and
just rode it to Epcot and back, to check it out.  It was amazingly quick, and
the trams came very frequently.  They went over a boardwalk which will later
expand out to be the future Boardwalk "theme park".  I saw bits and pieces of
the fireworks at Epcot, MGM, and Magic Kingdom from either the room (Epcot) or a
short distance from the room (having gone out the sliding door).

Moday we went to Epcot, going through the International Gateway, which is where
the tram let us out.  (Note, we didn't get to any park either at or before
opening time).  By the time we walked to American Adventure, the first of the 2
things we wanted to see at World Showcase, the heat was already getting to us.
We just missed a show, so we had to wait about 25 minutes for the next, and
relaxing inside was just fine with us!  Slowly people trickled in but it was
nowhere near a full house...they didn't even ask people to "please move all the
way down to the end of the row", just three-quarters of the way down!  We had
seen this show last time we were here, but I only remembered it vaguely, and
it was still good.  When the show was over, we went to Norway for the
Maelstrom ride, which was new and highly touted.  It wasn't crowded at all,
and it was lots of fun.   Then we headed to Future World, and proceeded counter-
clockwise.  Neither World of Motion nor Horizons had a long line (everyone else
was probably still on line at Spaceship Earth!).  Sure we waited some, but it
wasn't as long asI "expected to wait, and by this time, as long as we were
waiting inside where it was cool, I was happy!!  Our last attraction before we
broke for our lunch/rest break was Wonders of Life.  All the people that weren't
at World of Motion or Horizons were in line for Body Wars, of course!  We
joined the line and waited for maybe 45 minutes?  I think it was the longest
time we waited for something, though waiting outside in shorter lines seemed a
lot longer!  At least for the first part of our wait, we could watch the
people wandering inside the pavilion, and then they had monitors with "preshow-
type entertainment" and other stuff to distract you.  The "ride" itself was
lots of fun.  We also saw and enjoyed the other main attractions at the
pavilion, ate without feeling guilty :-) and left for our hotel.  After our
break, we returned to Future World, and saw Journey into Imagination (ride and
movie), Spaceship Earth, and the Universe of Energy, all without much wait at
all!  Then we headed back towards the International Gateway, found a good
viewing location, and waited about 20 minutes or so for Illuminations, which
was great.  Then we rushed to the tram station and caught the first tram that
came along.

Tuesday we went to Disney MGM.  We sort of accidentally found ourselves in line
for the Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular, but it worked out well because we
saw and really enjoyed the show from good seats (near the middle and under a
fan!).  It was good to know one of the spoilers I read here, because it
directed my attention better than it would have otherwise been directed at
several points.  Oh, we saw this again at night (as recommended) and it was
interesting to note some differences.  We then saw the Great Movie Ride.  Here,
I experienced the thrill of "gee, the line's a lot longer now than it was when
we got in line!", and I also experienced a few of those things that I hope
I don't do when I have kids. :-) :-)  Oh, and I think I read in here that when
the line splits, going left gives you the x scene and going right shows the
y scene.  Well, it was the other way around, so either that person was mixed up
or the games they play with the ropes change this "outcome".  I think when this
ride was over, we saw the 3-D Muppet Movie.  It was a lot of fun.  As a matter
of fact, we saw all 3 3-D movies (one per park) and they were all good.  I
wore my contact lenses to the park just for the purpose of being able to have
depth perception for these :-)  We went back to the room to rest up after the
show.  I actually fell asleep, which means I was pretty tired!  But now comes
the neat part...I woke up to a large clap of thunder, it was really storming
out there (again!).  Bill and I then sat by the sliding door and watched a neat
lightning show from our room.  And we saw a great blue heron walking along the
bank of the lake!  We had our binoculars, so we could get a good view.  Then
it stopped raining, and this gorgeous rainbow appeared outside.  We went
out to see it better, and could see both "ends", and the beginning of a (very
weak) second rainbow above the first one.  It was definitely an awesome
experience!  In the evening, we went back to MGM.  We took in Star Tours,
and were happy to be presented with a short wait.  Then, after being presented
with a longer line than expected, and certainly longer than desired, we saw
Inside the Magic, the special effects tour.  After that, it was almost the end
of the day, so we secured a prime viewing location for the MGM fireworks,
watched them, and went back to the hotel.

Wednesday we went back to Disney MGM to catch some of what we missed the first
time.  We saw the Backstage Studio Tour (including the great Catastrophe Canyon,
which I wanted to see again and again as there was so much to see at one time).
Then we saw the Magic of Disney Animation, which, in my opinion, wasn't very
well managed as a guided tour.  Before the last group of people (us) had
entered the area, the video had already started and was close to over.  We
did have the option of hearing it repeat, but then ended up really out of
synch with the rest of the videos, and certainly well behind our group.  They
do let you know that you can stay as long as you like in the area, and they
can one-better that by making it even less of a group-oriented tour.  The fact
that there is a movie (actually 2 movies!) following the watch-the-animators
section helps keep people moving through.  Then we caught the Monster Sound
Show.  After that, we headed over to Epcot to check out "Surprise in the Skies"
from our prime viewing location :-).  It was really neat!  then back to the
hotel to rest up, before returning to MGM after nightfall, and heading to
Indiana Jones again for the night-time version.  We made it there in time
to walk in and get a seat, and wait only a few minutes.  After the show, we
again caught the MGM fireworks.

Thursday felt like the hottest day, and it was our last day.  We went to
the Magic Kingdom, our first time on the bus (a major advantage to the 4
Epcot resorts).  First saw the Jungle Cruise, after a long wait that really
tired us out quickly, then indoors for a while to see the Tiki Birds (I liked
it a lot better the first time, maybe cuz of the heat.)  I then dragged Bill
to Pirates of the Carribbean, which was a great idea because the line wasn't
too bad, and it was so nice and cool in there, I didn't even mind waiting!
Then we went to Frontierland, and knew that we couldn't survive the wait at
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in the sun (we put it on the come back at night
list).  We got to the riverboat landing as the boat pulled in, and opted to
go aboard and just sit and see the sites; riding one of the boats was on my
do-this-time list.  And, as we were there when it pulled in, we were able to
get chairs in the shade, and watch the other boats go around, and a family of
ducks.  Sorry, but I couldn't imagine sitting in the sun paddling a canoe!!
The line at the Haunted Mansion was also long, and it was "that time", so we
headed "home" to rest and return after an early dinner.  Well, the rain came
again, and didn't let up this time.  We decided to go for it anyway, and Bill
got his coat (sort of raincoat-ish) and I got an umbrella (preferring to get
wet than to sweat to death, she recalls, shivering :-)).  We took in Dreamflight
without any wait, and Magic Journeys (3-D movie).  Space Mountain was a "short"
wait, but only comparatively.  We stopped at the Mad Tea Party.  The books say
this is just a midway ride, that you can experience anywhere, but I've never
seen one before...the Canobie Lake version doesn't let you spin yourself, and
that's the fun part.  Last time we went on it 2 or 3 times in a row (well,
we waited in line a little, which was good! :-).  This time, we were moving
so fast that we didn't know if the ride was going or not!!  Remember, it was
still raining now, and full night (ie it was dark!).  Somehow I managed to
steer us correctly towards Frontierland to find somewhere to see the parade
from.  When I found the ropes (with lots of room to spare), I asked a woman
nearby if the parade went through there.  She said "I just heard they cancelled
it".  You can image the stunned expression on my face!  We got official
confirmation, followed by the standard (so we heard) last minute PA system
cancellation message, but by then we were well on our way to Big Thunder
Mountain RR.  The line was so short that we didn't have to wait out in the
uncovered area.  A funny thing to relate is that while we were in line they
announced the following (paraphrased): "This is an outdoor ride.  It is
raining.  You and your belongings will get wet".  It was pretty funny, like
we weren't all wet already!  The ride itself was lots of fun in the dark, and
it was a lot longer than I expected it to be, much to my delight.  After the
ride, we went over to the WDW Railroad station, and took the train, which I
had never ridden before but wanted to try, back to the start of Main Street,
and we went home.  By the way, Splash Mountain was not open at all, from what
I could see, but we did see a few test logs coming down the hill.

Friday morning we checked out, left Disney and Florida behind, and headed back
north.  We got home Tuesday night (took the "very scenic" route), and returned
to work Monday after the long weekend.

Jill
290.26tired but happyTRUCKS::MILES_BExtinction is FOREVERTue Jul 21 1992 08:2715
    
    	Well .......................................
    
    	Just got back from our first visit to WDW :: 2 weeks in Orlando and 
    boy we really needed that extra week to recover in Key West.
    
    	What can I say it was FANTASTIC.
    
    	Epcote was the highlight of the trip especially the second time
    around on July 4th.
    
    	When I have recovered and got my breath back I will try and put
    together a coherent visit report.
    
    		gasp ..........  Bob
290.27Birthday Bash ReportWOTVAX::BATTYDer machinen goin' Floomy Floomy!Wed Jul 22 1992 13:5890
    The following is a totally factual(?) report of the events at the 
    Great Birthday Bash held at Pioneer Hall on 12th July 1992.
    
    Attendees:--
    Mike Scopa and Family (4)
    Friends of the Scopa's (3)
    Kathy Jette and Family - Just!! (3)
    Jim Pappas and Family (5)
    Mike Batty and Family (4)
    
    19 in all, plus a few other groups that we let in just for the 
    crowd scenes.
    
    We'd arranged to meet at 4pm on the porch of Crocket's Tavern. The 
    Pappas clan plus mine set off from the CBR to travel over 
    together, bus to MK, then ferry to FW. (We thought that the 
    copious pitchers of beer at the HDD might have a negative effect 
    on our driving abilities!!!) This took much longer than expected, 
    including a very hot 20 min wait for the DI/FW ferry to appear, 
    resulting in us arriving at about 4.25. The Scopa clan were all 
    ensconsed on the porch, sitting in rocking chairs, sucking 
    reflectively on their corn-cob pipes and occasionally stirring to 
    spit on the floor. All except Mike, who was already signing 
    autographs for his many fans. The line was longer than for most of 
    the MK attractions (except perhaps Space Mountain, but it was a 
    close thing!).
    
    Dragging Mike away from the groupies, I ceremonially presented him 
    with the one object that I knew would make his day. Yes, a bright 
    red genuine Brazilian Tour Party T-Shirt! I could tell that he was 
    touched as his face ran through all the emotions from A to B, and 
    he was close to tears as he proudly put it on for a photo session.
    
    After some discussion, we decided that the combination of his 
    natural charisma plus the T-Shirt would be too much, (He was 
    going to steal the show anyway!) so he reluctantly took it off, 
    and we returned to more pressing matters.
    
    Where was Kathy Jette? It was approaching showtime, and no sign of 
    her and her family. Ms Efficiency (as she is popularly known) 
    would never be late without some good reason. Had Mike Eisner 
    delayed her with questions about how to run the parks? As she 
    strolled into view just as the doors were closing, all became 
    clear - She realised she couldn't compete with an actor of Mike's 
    ability, so she was going to make a grand entry to secure her 
    place in the show! Well, the plan failed, and not even the other 
    trick of hiding behind Jim Pappas, shouting "Don't pick me! Please 
    don't pick me!" had any effect. She missed her chance of stardom, 
    and was totally overlooked.
    
    The show opened and then the food appeared, delicately served by 
    slamming down buckets of corn on the tables, to be dished out on 
    the finest quality tin plates. There was no food fight (Sorry 
    Claude!) because everything was prearranged. We'd had a quiet word 
    with the cast members and pointed out that our party was big 
    enough (in all senses of the word) to wreck the place if they 
    didn't pick on Mike, so we could enjoy the vittles without too 
    much interruption. There were the usual episodes of presenting the 
    birthday people with illuminated badges, and finding out where 
    people came from and then singing appropriately mutilated verses 
    of 'She comes from Alabama', though how they get Mass to rhyme 
    with a type of pack animal I don't know!
    
    On to the main part of the show, using people from the audience in 
    key roles. Mike was of course selected, although at first we were 
    a little disappointed that he didn't get the part of the angel, 
    but we realised that it took talent to play the Indian, whereas 
    anyone can stand around in a tutu (Can't they Jim?). Chief Running 
    Scopa duly appeared to roars from his fans and proceeded to amaze 
    and delight the audience with his abilities. His facial 
    expressions as he was beaten to the ground were a joy to behold, 
    and when it came to the 'death scene', well, what can I say! The 
    audience was in tears (of sorrow of course!) as this honor student 
    of the Robin Williams School of Dramatic Acting stretched the 
    simple line "Oh, Please don't die" into 10 minutes of drama. He 
    was so carried away by the role that they are still filling in the 
    toothmarks in the stage, and the tactic of throwing himself full 
    length and having a tantrum successfully avoided the attempts of 
    the cast members to use the 'hook'. Motivated no doubt by 
    jealousy, they eventally silenced him by sitting on him, and the 
    show ran to a very anticlimactic conclusion. 
    
    After a few moments of appreciative applause, Mr. "Don't Give Up 
    Your Day Job!" Scopa returned to anonimity, and was last seen 
    guiding a party in red T-Shirts into Shuttle Atlantis promising 
    them that this was the new version of Star Tours.
    
    Your Roving Reporter,
    
    Mike (I'm not making this up!) B.
290.28A July 4th trip reportSOLVIT::JAFFEFri Jul 31 1992 20:5865
    I won't go into any great detail since other trip reports have
    expressed the obvious so well. I will however state some more personal
    impressions based upon taking a 6 day WDW vacation at the Contemporary
    with a 12, and 9 year old and a spouse who is not 100% healthy
    (terminal CA) during the July 4th holidays.
    
    My first recollections of the trip were HOT HOT HOT.
    
    Not unbearable, but Hot enought that we carved our days agenda based
    upon the position of the sun. From 12-4 the only places to be were in
    the water at the hotel or Typhoon Lagoon, or napping in the cool
    airconditioning of the Contemporary. Night time was still hot and
    somewhat sticky but who noticed with all those wonderful attractions to
    attend.
    
    As far as parks go, MK got old fast, even with my kids who have
    experienced the MK 4 or 5 times. We all still get thrilled by the
    coasters and had fun with the others, but not enough to wait in any
    kind of line. Oddly enough, the shortest lines were on July 4th after
    the fireworks between 10:30 and 1 in the morning. We rode Space
    Mountian 5 times in 1 hour.
    
    Epcot was also not t he big thrill it was 1st time around, but enough
    has been added, ie the Journey through Life, that we spent more time
    here than MK. WE LOVED JTL. The bulding was unique and different from
    the others and very well done. The magic motion machine ride was 2nd
    only to the FANTASTIC one at Universal for Back to the Future, and the
    animated brain function exhibit was the biggest hit of all.
    
    Other EPCOT adventures were spent in sampling the cullinary delights of
    the countries, which we did often. We ate dinner in Italy, China, and
    Japan, and loved all the meals. Side trips for pastaries in France etc,
    were also wonderful.
    
    This was our first trip to WDW with MGM studios. We all had an OK time
    but just OK not the BIG WOW. The Muppett 3D movie stands out as a big
    hit along with the all popular Star Tours MMM. There really is no
    comparison to Universal, sorry Mickey.
    
    Typhoon lagoon is terrific, especially to one in need of coolness and
    comfort from the raging July sun. The lines for the family white water
    reft ride were a bit long 35 minutes especially for what you get, but
    other than that, no negitives. Snoozing while floating down the creek
    was a favorite activity for all.
    
    Other notes of interest:
    
    Contemporary, we stayed in the north garden wing, was very comfortable.
    For the 145/ night I spent, the room was large and scenic, and the
    advantage of being on Disney property made the trip. When my wife was
    too tired to continue, I was easy for her to go back and rest without
    altering the plans of the rest of us. It was just as easy to reunite
    later on. The contemporary, like the Polanesian and Floridian, being on
    the monorail is a big advantage in getting around.
    
    All in all, another great time. I do think we have been Mickeyed out
    for the next 4 or 5 years. The kids would probably prefer the action
    and thrills of a real amusement park like Bush Gardens or Six Flags
    next time. The smallish thrills of even the biggest Disney rides no
    longer satisy their appitites for the dangerous and sickening.
    
    Thanks for all the advice pre trip I obtained in this notes file. Call
    if you need any additional details.
    
    Joel
290.29Trip Report July 6-28HEFTY::BURZYNSKIJFri Aug 07 1992 13:44493
The following is a trip report from our most recent vacation in July
(the 6th-28th).  For various reasons, we didn't all leave and come
back on the same dates:

    07/06-09 - sister (also DEC employee), niece (14), and me on a
               4-day RCCL Nordic Empress cruise to the Bahamas
    07/10-15 - sister flies home; our mother flies from home to 
               Orlando and meets niece and me coming from Miami,
               staying 6 nights at the Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress.
    07/16-19 - brother-in-law flies down to join us and we move to
               Disney property, starting with these 4 nights at the
               Yacht Club.
    07/20-23 - at the Fairway Villas (first night was the Vacation
               Villas, by mistake, but I'll cover that later on)
    07/24-27 - at the Grand Floridian.

I'll start out with some REALLY broad things and then get down to the
(excruciating, I'm sure) details for each day.

  1.)  First, I'd like to thank all the folks who put so much into
       this file.  It helped us to decide to go with AP's (a good
       choice), to make some of our choices on which days to go
       where, etc.  You'll certainly see that we didn't do "all" of
       the things that have been recommended, but we were often
       guided by what I had read in here.

  2.)  Obviously as this is the Disney notesfile, I'm not going to
       put in a lot about the cruise part.  Actually, it's only
       entered because of our experience concerning the cruise-line
       supplied land transportation and luggage handling.

  3.)  All the moving around was my "great" idea.  In the end, I have
       mixed feelings about it.  We did minimize the moving time, but
       mixed feelings about it.  We did really work at minimizing the
       time that was "lost" to moving (sometimes by packing when we
       came back for a mid-day rest, or late in the evening when we
       had nothing else planned; a couple of times by moving the
       luggage and checking in very early, etc.), but, overall, it
       still was a pain.  As you'd probably expect, we liked some
       places better than others; etc.  But, we did end up with some
       very clear opinions on where we'd stay another time - some of
       it based on what we LIKED, but a lot actually based on where 
       they're located within the overall Disney property and the
       convenience of getting around.

  4.)  We had all been to Disneyworld at least two other times, so we
       had some frame of reference for comparison.  The general feel-
       ing was that "something" wasn't quite right.  It varied from 
       the shabby condition of the Vacation Villa (1-night stay) to
       some curt/rude dealings with castmembers to irritation at the
       lengthened bus routes in the Villas (where they've added in 2
       stops to the existing 7 because of the Vacation Club) to the
       lack of direct transportation from the G.F. to places like TL.

  5.)  I'll really limit what I put in here about the non-Disney 
       places (Universal, Sea World, Kennedy Space Center).  Most of
       what I will include is to contrast comments on Disney areas.

  6.)  You can tell by the dates that we had LOTS of time to work with.
       As a consequence, our planning was much looser than on previous
       trips.  The result was that we probably didn't see as much as
       we could/should have, given the time we had to work with.  As I
       look thru my notes, there's plenty that we didn't do.

  7.)  We were quite disappointed that only TMK was open really late
       (12:00), while the other 2 theme parks closed at 10:00.  One 
       the reasons that we've repeatedly gone in the summer (besides
       needing to going during my niece's school vacation and the
       fact that most of us like the heat and going swimming) was
       because the parks were open REALLY late, so you could go and
       do things for several hours after sunset, when it's warm, but
       not hot.  This change will definitely cause a rethink of other
       trips and what time of year to go.


July 6-9 RCCL Cruise on the Nordic Empress
------------------------------------------

  A brief "trip report" on this can be found in note #180 of the 
Cruising notesfile.
  The only discussion here concerns the difference between "cruise
only" and "land-sea" passengers.  In at least one notesfile, I've
read where folks had purchased their airfare independently and were
asking about getting from the airport to the dock.  Responses were
generally that the cruise-line didn't seem to check to see if you
were "cruise only" or "land-sea", so you should be able to use the
bus and luggage handling services, regardless; however, if not, it
would be easy to get taxi or other transport.  Here was our exper-
ience:
  We came off the plane in Miami to see a "greeter" with an "RCCL
Nordic Empress" sign, who was directing folks down to "the next
person with a sign".  That one was sending folks to a waiting area.
There were no questions about what "flavour" of passenger you were.
Once we got settled in, a couple of things sank in:  1.) The 2nd
greeter had some paperwork that looked to be some kind of a list
(maybe there would be some checking of names); 2.)  We were going to
be there for a while.  My sister and I discussed it, and decided to
go find out our status, to avoid an unpleasant surprise at a later
point.  Sure enough, we were told that we should not wait in this
area - we should go and get our own luggage and then get transporta-
tion to the dock (she did list the different options, approx. cost,
and recommended that the taxi would probably be the best for 3 
people).  We went off to get our luggage, etc., and actually arrived
before the buses.  The only disconcerting thing was that when we were
dropped off, the taxi driver immediately got a porter for us.  He made
sure to let us know that he had not been paid for handling our bags
and that he would not see us again (I think that he actually held out
his hand, too).  Once we got inside the terminal, everything was fine.
  When they handed out the paperwork for debarkation on Thursday, it
was very clear that "cruise-only" folks had to handle their own stuff.
We did, again, getting off the ship, through customs, and into a taxi
to the airport within 10-15 min.
  I can't be totally sure if we could have "slipped through" if we
hadn't asked about our status, but it seems to be questionable.


NOW, ON TO THE GOOD STUFF, RIGHT?

July 10
-------
  My mother had arrived in Orlando around 10:00 on Friday morning.
My niece and I got there from Miami around 1:30.  It was on a 30-seat
COMAIR (DELTA partner) flight - a very bumpy ride!!  M. already had 
the car and directions to the Hyatt, so once we got the luggage, we
were on our way.
  We got to the Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress with no trouble; we were
surprised to discover a manned security stop.  The man was very 
polite, and he had our name on a list of folks checking in; it was a
short stop to get an ID "card" to keep on our dashboard.  Check-in
was a breeze.  BTW - this stay was FREE - 6-nights in the concierge-
service Regency club, thanks to frequent-stay member program and lots
of points from a 1990 trip to Hawaii.
  We unpacked, had a drink in the concierge lounge, asked which of 
Disney parks was closest and got directions (really simple - two right
turns got us onto the Village property, and then it's just a case of
"follow the signs").  So, we ended up at EPCOT.  We got our AP's with 
no hassle (pretty quiet in late afternoon), had a fastfood supper,
and took one ride on Spaceship Earth.  It had been a tiring day for
all, so we went back to the hotel and turned in a bit early.

July 11
-------
  As we were saving the bulk of our Disney themepark time for when we
had moved to the property, this day was planned for Universal.  We 
did not get there too early (still a bit tired and slow to get going)
so the lines were all pretty long by the time we got there.  We went
on most of the major rides, and agreed that Back to the Future was
everyone's favorite.  We were all done in by late afternoon.  We went
back to do laundry (had to go to a laundromat as the Hyatt doesn't 
have one - a real bummer!!), had supper at the Crossroads McDonald's
(we were trying to be quick as we wanted a swim before bed), had our
swim, and, all in all,  got to bed a bit late.

July 12
-------
  This was a day that we basically spent in the "recommended" summer
format.  We went to EPCOT in the morning, came back to the hotel 
around 1:00 for lunch and a swim, went back to EPCOT in time for our
6:30 dinner reservations in Japan and stayed on to see IllumiNations.
Between the 2 times, we did all the bldgs in the front, and the rides
in Mexico and Norway.  While waiting for the night show, we had 
pastries from the shop in Norway - they were excellent!!

July 13
-------
  We went shopping for the day at the Beltz outlets.  Had supper at
Hemingway's at the Hyatt (service was a bit slow, but nothing that we
complained about; when the server brought the entrees, though, he
apologized and told us that dessert would be "on the house"; it was).
While we were shopping, in late afternoon, there was quite a t-storm.
Luckily, we were inside and missed the whole thing.  We had another
10:00-ish swim before turning in at night.

July 14
-------
  We went to Sea World for the day.  It was really hot, with no place
to get some relief, so it took the edge off some of the enjoyment.
Actually, we liked the 4 shows we went to, and Heather really liked
feeding the stingrays.  In early evening we were doing laundry again
(it really mounts up when it's so hot and EVERYTHING you wear every
day has to go in).  We had supper at a small fast-food Italian res-
taurant in Crossroads (the pizza was good).  I think we got another
swim in this night, too.

July 15
-------
  Heather went off for the day to a Wonders of Life Program (the one
on entertainment).  She really enjoyed it, and kept telling us stuff
that they had learned.  M. and I went to shop for a while.  We tried
to do some late-afternoon swimming, but another t-storm interfered.
This one was a real beauty - the power in the hotel almost went out.
(It's really stunning with all of the flat land - you can see so 
much lightening, for so long.)  We ended up just eating at the hotel,
doing our packing and getting to bed at a decent time (we knew that
we would be getting up early the next morning).

Before I move on to the next phase of the vacation, I'd like to say
a few things about the Hyatt.  1.)  It is quite expensive (obviously
I don't have the rates as we were staying for free, but I know it 
is), but I think it's really worth it.  Even though we didn't take
advantage of them, they have all kinds of sports activities - golf,
tennis, horseback riding, water sports and toys, etc.).  It's really
a "full-service" hotel; 2.) The concierge staff folks are great!!
Some of that impression actually comes from things that the mgmt.
just "does right".  For every "standard" thing that we wanted to do,
they had preprinted cards with directions (Universal Studios, Sea
World, Beltz outlets, Kenneday Space Center - I asked for the latter,
even though I knew that we wouldn't be going 'til much later in the
vacation, just so I'd have them).  For "non-std" things, they got
what we needed within a couple of minutes.  Every day, they'd come
over to talk to us at some point - maybe at breakfast; maybe at some
other point when we stopped by for a snack/beverage.  They always
make sure to offer any assistance.  3.)  The hotel was very busy -
there were 3 or 4 different conventions going on while we were there.


NOW, on to the Disney property, and lots of theme park time!!!

July 16
-------
  As planned, we were up early enough to finish packing, dress, have
breakfast, and drive over to the Yacht Club by 8:30.  As I had hoped,
they had a room ready for us and we checked in, got our stuff up to
the room, unpacked, got directions (a neat map from the concierge)
and were on our way to the airport to pick up my brother-in-law at
10:00.  We got back with him, he unpacked, and we were on our way to
MGM by 11:15.  We were there 'til late afternoon (went on lots of
things, though the lines were long).  We had some time to swim in
Stormalong Bay in the early evening - Heather really liked the sandy
pool bottom.  We had a very late supper at Cape May at the Beach
Club (it's a "clambake"-styled meal, but we weren't that impressed).

July 17
-------
  This was a day at Typhoon Lagoon.  We messed this up a bit - we 
were slow in getting up and didn't get there 'til approx. 11:00, and
then I had to stand in line to get the tickets (you'll see how much
better we did on the 2nd trip there on July 26).  Due to getting
there so late, we had a hard time even finding a couple of chairs
to put our stuff on, and the wave pool and Castaway Creek were
mobbed.  We stayed 'til around 4:00.  This night we ate at the
Portobello Yacht club near PI - we all liked the food a lot!!!!!!!!
I think that it was at this point, that we really got focused on
just how well-placed the Yacht Club is on the property.  We were
a 5-min. tram ride from EPCOT (I'm sure we would have walked in
cooler weather); a 10-min. boat ride from MGM; and they had great
bus service to every place else.  (We didn't realize how REALLY
great it was 'til we stayed at the other 2 places, though.)  This
night, we also did laundry at the hotel - what a relief not to have
to go to the laundromat!!  We watched the fireworks from our room.

July 18
-------
  We went to EPCOT for the morning and early afternoon (actually, we
stayed long enough to see the afternoon show - I forget the name).
We had a late afternoon swim, went to MGM for a late supper and to
watch the fireworks (Sorcery in the Skies???).

July 19
-------
  We went to TMK (had breakfast at Tony's).  We started out with 
Pirates and the Tiki birds, and then headed over to Fronierland.  As
we approached, you could hear screaming.  We went to investigate and
SAW PEOPLE ON THE SPLASH MOUNTAIN RIDE!!!!!!!!!  We were somewhat
surprised, as on our way in, we had overheard others asking if it was
open and the comments were, "in the Fall".  Well, my brother-in-law
decided that we HAD to go for a ride, but couldn't pursuade my mother
or Heather.  It was a long and hot line (the "courtyard" area in the
back where the line is doesn't really have much shade at this point,
and it's kind of airless), but the ride was really worth it.  We
rejoined the other two, had a ride on Big Thunder Mountain and went
back to have lunch at Beaches and Cream at the Beach Club.  We went
back to TMK for the evening and supper, including more rides on 
Splash Mountain, BTM, and Space Mountain.  We also saw SpectroMagic.
I must admit that I didn't remember the ELP enough to make any major
comparison.

I don't want to move on to our next stop (Villas) without mentioning
how much we really liked the Yacht club.  We never had any problems
with any of the folks there, and the concierge staff were great.
On our last afternoon, we were working on some of the packing, and
wanted to leave some stuff hanging for the move.  I went to them
and asked about getting some plastic bags that the laundry staff
used - the response?  "How many would you like?  ONLY three?  We'll
get a few more, just in case.  Would you like some hangers too?"
They always had something to eat in the lounge.  There's continental
breakfast in the morning (not as good as the Hyatt), snacks and 
drinks from 11-3; tea and cookies for a couple of hours; crackers,
cheese and wine in late afternoon; and cordials and desserts 'til
10:30.  The rooms were very nice, with good space for the 4 of us.
We also liked the fact that there was a "public" restroom on the 
floor - there are times when it comes in handy with 4 people in a 
room and 1 bathroom.  They were very helpful when we wanted some of
the luggage transferred.  I'm not sure if I'm doing justice to how
much we liked this - I tried.

July 20
-------
  As I didn't expect to be able to get our Villa in the morning, we 
had a very different plan for this day.  We checked out of the Yacht
club around 9:30, leaving all our large pieces and some hanging stuff
to be transferred (we were told that it would be there by early p.m.).
We went off to shop and came to register around 3:30ish.  Here is 
when one of the great mysteries of the vacation occured.  For reasons
that are still not clear to me, instead of the Fairway Villa that we
had reserved, we got a Vacation Villa.  I didn't even realize it.  It
seemed like this wasn't what I had expected, but we had too much to do
for me to really sit down and analyze it.  We did some laundry, 
unpacked, went and got some stuff at Goodings, and went to the late
Hoop Dee Doo show.  We had great seats - right down in front and one
table back from the stage.  We enjoyed it as much as we had before.
Unlike some, we were not trying to have any of us picked for the 
show, but I'm sure that it would not have been a problem if we had.
On the way back that night, we had a reaction and a revelation.  The
reaction was, "Wow, is this ever a long trip now that they've added
the 2 Vacation Club stops on to the rest."  The revelation - we were
clearly NOT in the Fairway Villas.  Mother had to come home the next
day (a 1-day round trip), so I told her, "check with reception when
you come back.  I *WILL* get us moved tomorrow."

07/21
-----
  M. and I were up early as she headed out to the airport and I could
not sleep.  I did some early laundry and then went over to Reception
at 9:00.  They could not explain what had gone wrong (as the reser-
vation was so clearly for a Fairway Villa) and lamely tried to patch
it over by saying that it was "the same layout" and "it's $40 less".
The amazing thing was that they had a unit for us - if we'd been
packed at 9:00, they could have moved us right then!!!!!!!  Anyway,
we did get moved around 11:30 (that was as soon as I could get the
other two ready/packed).  What a difference!!  Now, we were in a 
quiet section (no real traffic except for the buses that turned
around in our cul de sac).  The unit was so much nicer.  No shabbi-
ness here.  We had a lower level bedroom with 2 double beds, good
bathoom, etc.  The main level had a large living area (with Murphy
bed), dining area, kitchen, and half bath.  The upper level was a
large master bedroom.  Once we'd settled in, we went to the Market-
place for lunch and looked around in a few of the shops.  After a
brief afternoon rest, we went to TMK for supper and spent the even-
ing going on the rides.

On this day, we slowly solidified our disappoinments with the Villas.
First, the initial Vacation Villa that we had was in somewhat shabby
condition.  The unit had no sense of space (it wasn't even the same
as the one we had in '88 - there was less floorspace and it had no
first floor 1/2 bath).  The couch badly needed recovering.  The air
conditioning unit was very LOUD.  Also, we really didn't like the
long bus route.  We also missed the "hotel" stuff - we couldn't
just walk downstairs to check out a shop; we had to take the bus to
Reception if we wanted any services; there was no concierge lounge
for a drink/snack; etc.  (It was a lot of different things, but they
added up to disappointment; it was a real surprise, because we had
really liked them back in '88.)

July 22
-------
  We went to an IHOP for breakfast and to Universal Studios for the
day.  This was definitely our loooongest day (we got there at 9:30 
and left at 9:45 that night).  We went on almost everything (inclu-
ding early and late rides on BTTF when the lines were 45 and 35 min.)
and we were exhausted when we got back.

July 23
-------
  We went to MGM for some of morning/afternoon.  We saw the full
Indiana Jones stunt show this time (on the other day, it was raining
so they had to cut out some stuff).  We had dinner at Steerman's
Quarter's on E.L. and went back at a decent hour.

Before moving on to the last part of our stay (G.F.), I'll mention
that I THINK that money was stolen from me sometime during the stay
here.  Truthfully, I don't know.  Generally, we used Traveler's 
checks, and we always had them with us.  There was some cash that I
had separately for special things.  I was using a fanny pack, so the
pocketbook was left back in the room, everywhere.  I got careless, 
and would put it in a suitcase, but then not lock the suitcase.  I
think that it was stolen here for two reasons:  1.)  I had checked
some of it that was OK earlier on, and 2.)  on the Wed. night when
we came back, it seemed as though someone had been in things.  I
brushed it off, as things had been picked up off the floor, so I
figured that that "explained" it.  (I can't be certain, though, as
I didn't thoroughly check things 'til we were back home, so it might
have been done later on.)  You can bet that I won't be careless like
that again, very soon.

July 24
-------
  We tried the same process in transferring to the G.F. as we'd used
when going to the Yacht Club.  M. and I went over there with the
large pieces of luggage, early in the morning.  This time it didn't
work.  Our room wasn't ready.  They indicated that it probably would
be "pretty soon", as "we do the concierge level rooms ASAP", but we
were going to the Kennedy Space Center for the day and couldn't wait
around.  The concierge came down to the lobby to get us, took us up
to the main level, encouraged us to have some of their continental
breakfast (we did), and then made the Victoria and Alberts' reserva-
tions for us for 7/25.  We went back and got the others and headed to
KSC.  We saw the IMAX movie (The Dream is Alive) and went on the bus
tour.  We really liked the movie, but thought that the tour was so-so.
By the time we were done with that (and lunch), we really were pretty
well done-in.  We saw a few other things in the main complex area,
got a few souvenirs, and headed back.  That night we just had supper
in the Grand Floridian Cafe (good food - service a but shaky).

July 25
-------
  Today was M.'s b-day, so we did what SHE wanted.  Spent the a.m. at
TMK (rides in Fantasyland), came back for a "take it easy" afternoon
(that wasn't REALLY her idea - the others were in a funky mood and
didn't want to do much), and then got "all dolled up" for dinner at
V&A's.  It was really great.  Most of us had stuff that we'd never
had before, and really liked it.  The service was really outstanding.
The $400 for the 4 of us was pretty outstanding, too ($300 base for
the 4 meals, before you have drinks, tax, tip, etc.).

Note: This was one of the days we encountered a pretty rude "cast
      member".  She obviously didn't want to stop to answer our
      question (about where the coin laundry was on the 2nd level
      of the main bldg) and then was pretty snippy in the rest of
      the encounter.  The answer is - there isn't one.  They only
      have them in the "lodge" bldgs.  I pointed out that we were
      looking for it in the main bldg because that's what the lit-
      erature in the room said under "services".  Her response was
      "I've been here since we opened, and I've never seen one" (a
      sort-of, "you don't know what you're talking about").

July 26
-------
  This was our 2nd time at Typhoon Lagoon, and we did a much better
job of it.  We got up earlier, had a fast/light breakfast, I got the
tickets at Guest Relations in the hotel (very quick), we got towels
from the pool, and headed out (in the car, as the bus would have just
taken too long).  We were there by 9:30, and had no trouble in
getting a good spot for our stuff.  Before we left for the day (3:30)
we had done a stint in the wave pool (almost a full hour of the big
waves), a couple of times in Castaway Creek (not bad in the morning,
but totally mobbed in the afternoon), and 4 trips on the various tube
rides.  We REALLY enjoyed it.  Went back to the hotel and did laundry
in the closest lodge building.  Went to the 6:45 Polynesian Luau that
night.  The food was so-so.  The show was fine.  We then went to 
EPCOT so my brother-in-law could see IllumiNations.  That was a good
idea, but we should have found the walkway to the TTC instead of 
waiting and taking the monorail.  It actually took us a long time to
get to EPCOT.  We got there late enough that it was hard to get a
decent spot.  It was OK.

July 27
-------
  I have no notes left for this day (I think that I was getting tired
and bummed out that it was all over), but I'll try to get it right.
We got up relatively early, but then took the time to eat at the 
character breakfast (though we didn't have any small children, they
did come to our table and we got some neat pictures).  Then we headed
out to finish our souvenir shopping (rest of the morning).  Went to
MGM for the afternoon.  First, we had lunch at Mama Melrose's (we
liked the food).  Then, we did the tram and walking backstage tours,
saw MuppetVision 3D one more time, went to SuperStar Television once
more and saw the 6:15 live Beauty and the Beast show.  The latter was
very good, but it was REALLY HOT and we had lousy seats.  After that,
we went to TMK for the "last hurrah" - one more ride on Splash M. and
BTM.  We had one last late-night swim (11:00ish) and turned in late.

July 28
-------
  There's not much to say on this one.  We did our packing in the
morning, ate in the lounge, got a couple of things in the hotel
shops and headed out.  In fairness, I have to say that we had a GREAT
bellman when we were leaving.  We had TONS of luggage, and he got it
all in the car trunk (even made it look pretty easy).  That's really
all there is to write.


FINAL thoughts:

  When we go again, it probably won't be in the summer.  I'd do with-
out some of the shows to get lower hotel costs, smaller crowds, etc.
We'd really be tempted to stay at the Hyatt again.  If we decided to
stay on property, we'd stay at the Yacht Club in an instant.  (BTW,
that's also right near where Boardwalk is to be constructed.)
  I don't think that anyone is really anxious to go back soon.  I
suspect that I could probably peg the next trip for somewhere around
the same time as Mike's (5 years).  I was surprised that no one 
wanted to go on a lot of things that we'd been on during earlier
trips. Other times there was a lot of nostalgia, even if the things
had lost a little of the former excitement.  This time, we just
didn't go on them.
  Next time, we'll probably skip the AP's and do whatever the current
superpasses are, and probably not stay for more than 2 weeks.

I'm tuckered out from writing this note.  I hope that it's got some
helpful info. and insights.

Jean B.
290.30Disneyland 7/12/92CSTEAM::STEINHARDTTue Aug 11 1992 21:08116
OK, I'm out in Southern California to do the announcement training for the new 
products, and through a massive effort to complete some preparatory work late 
into the night on Saturday evening (or actually Sunday morning), I was able to 
free-up Sunday, and being only a short ride away from Disneyland, I figured 
how could I NOT go, of course...

Rather than provide a drawn out play-by-play trip report like my last couple 
of efforts, I'd thought that I'd do two things:  First, provide what it is 
actually possible for one human being to do in one day when not slowed down by 
children or spouse.  Second, some miscellaneous comments and observations.

The park was open from 8:00 A.M. until 1:00 A.M., I arrived at 8:15 A.M., left 
at 11:30 P.M. and was able to do:

Splash Mountain three times
Space Mountain three times
Big Thunder Mountain three times
Matterhorn Bobsleds twice
Pirates of the Caribbean three times
Star Tours twice
Circle Vision 360 twice (Wonders of China and American Journeys, once each)
Jungle Cruise
Captain EO
Haunted Mansion
Tiki Room
Walt Disney Story and Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln
Wedway People Mover
Beauty and The Beast stage show at Videopolis
FANTASMIC!
Main Street Electrical Parade
Fireworks
Lunch (Cafe Mexicana)
Dinner (Bengal Barbecue)
Dole Whip (twice)
Shop for family, so that they will let me back into the house upon my return

Yes, a rather fast pace, but not insanely fast.

Miscellaneous Comments:

- Everything, including "Seasonal Only" attractions were in full operation.

- It was raining (in SoCal, in July!) in the morning, which kept the crowds 
away.  You could basically walk right on to everything all morning until 11:00 
or so when the sky cleared.

- As has been mentioned by so many in this conference previously, I'll add my 
vote to the "Big Thunder Mountain is better in the dark" list, this was the 
first time that I've had the chance to ride it in either park other than in 
the daytime.  Definitely better in the dark.

- Along similar lines, I'll cast a vote that both Matterhorn and Splash 
Mountain are better in the dark as well.

- In my last trip report from December '91 (Disneyworld), I disparaged the 
poor excuse for Dole whip that I was served.  I now realize that back then I 
must have indeed been served a bad batch, because the version that I had in 
Disneyland was not only great, but NOTHING like the feeble Dole Whip impostor 
which I had been served last December in Disneyworld.  Back then, I tossed 
half of it.  This past Sunday, I went back for seconds.

- The options for food in Disneyland are superior to the Magic Kingdom at WDW 
in Florida.  While I did not eat at the Blue Bayou, it looks like a very good 
option from the vantage point on Pirates of the Caribbean.  If I were 
traveling with my family, that is where I would have either lunch or dinner.  
The Bengal Barbecue was good, and while far better Mexican food can certainly 
be had everywhere in Southern California, the chicken tacos at Cafe Mexicana 
were surprisingly good (especially by New England standards!).

- As has also been stated by many, Pirates of the Caribbean is much, much 
better at Disneyland than at WDW.  I would estimate that the first portion of 
the ride after the two drops at Disneyland (before you get to the main ship 
and the town) is on its own about as long as the entire ride at WDW.

- Space mountain is much better at WDW, not only do the two tracks move things 
along faster, but you don't really see the tracks, unlike at Disneyland.

- Matterhorn Bobsleds really shows it's technological age (not too unlike the 
"Mission to Mars" discussion), all the way down to the traditional style seat 
belts.  While there have been rumors of such a ride at EPCOT if Switzerland is 
ever built, I'd bet that the imagineers could do much better with a new 
design.

- The Beauty and The Beast show at Videopolis is the same as the one at 
Disney/MGM.

- Part of the "Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln" show is in the American 
Adventure at EPCOT (The "one wore blue, one wore gray" song and film).

- Maybe it has something to do with being in the park by myself, or maybe it 
was the Pleasure Island shirt that I was wearing, but an awful lot of cast 
members started up conversations with me all day, and many wanted to know 
about Pleasure Island (I would routinely teach them how to pronounce 
"Kungaloosh!").

- Wouldn't it be nice if WDW kept park hours like this!? (8-1)

- Fantasmic is quite unique, what a great show.  I was able to show up for the 
9:00 show at 8:45 and slip into the back of one of the ropes with a great 
spot, just below the Pirates bridge and to the left.  Had there been more than 
one of me, I would have to have been there by 7:30 or so at the latest to get 
a decent spot for viewing.  Some people had staked out spots as early as 6:00.  
I don't know how small kids can possibly see from most vantage points, being 
6'3" I felt it only appropriate to stay in the very back of the section that I 
was in, (and could see fine over the crowd in front of me), but if and when 
they bring this to WDW I sure hope that they plan the lines of sight better 
than what they are forced to work with in California, as most people couldn't 
possibly see all of what is going on.

- Costs: $5.00 for parking, $26.75 with a MKC card for admission.

Cheers,
Ken



290.31This is my first trip report - be kindCUPMK::JETTETue Aug 25 1992 19:35186
Trip report for the Jette Family:  Kathy, Dennis and David (10 yrs old)
          *****************************************

July 11th to July 15th.  Flew United Airlines out of Boston, MA

Stayed at the Carribean Beach Resort at WDW (1st time at CBR)

Did not rent a car - BIG Mistake

Used Mears Shuttle to and from the airport - Good service

Attended the Birthday Bash (just barely) with the Disney Mods!  
This was a great time!  I wish I'd had more time to meet with these guys 
again later in the trip!  Mr. Scopa - what a ham!

Tried Dole Whip - sorry wasn't impressed (but I'm a chocoholic, my son 
loved it)

Found Mike Scopa (on more than one occasion) walking around - alone -
talking to himself - with a Video Camera surgically implanted into his 
shoulder.

          *****************************************

Saturday, July 11th

This is the day the tall ships are due to come into Boston Harbor. It's all 
over the radio that traffic will be a nightmare.  We decide to leave extra 
early for our 7:30am flight out of Boston.  I was up before the chickens.
Definitely up before the sun - it was 4:00am.
No alarm necessary - my Disney Itis had taken over and I was READY TO GO!

As you all know from reading this notesfile - we did not tell my 10 year 
old (David) about this trip in advance.  We woke him at 4:00am and said - 
"You have to get up we have a plane to catch" his reply: "to where?"
our reply: "Disney World!" - my husband snaps the photograph of my son 
jumping out of bed - feet not touching the floor till he's out in the 
hallway.  It was priceless!  Then he stopped and said "Is this a joke?"
When we assured him that we were really leaving he jumped around the house 
for a good 15 minutes saying "I can't believe you kept this secret! - I 
can't believe I'm going back to DisneyWorld!"  

We left for the airport at 5:00am - to arrive there at 6:00am - no traffic.
Oh well....
Our flight out left on time and was uneventful (thank God)  However, I will 
note that if prices are the same on other airlines - next time I will not 
fly on United.  I found the people to be very cold and snobby and the food 
was horrible - worse than normal. (Both ways)
The people at Mears Shuttle at the Orlando airport really have their act 
together.  Very professional - and they are organized.  We only waited 10 
minutes for our van and it took us directly to CBR.  We arrived before the 
check in time - about 12:00pm.  Stored our luggage and went to check in.

The atmosphere of the hotel is very much the islands, very pleasant.
Staff was as courteous as ever.  I did run into a slight glitch checking 
in.  She said we had a room ready in Trinidad.  Well, I had requested 
Martinique - second floor.  I told her that and she said she had nothing in 
Martinique.  So, organized as I am - I brought the notebook which holds a
record of every conversation I've had with CRO since last September.  I 
promptly showed her that I had made that request on Oct. 26th of last year 
and felt it should be honored.  She asked me to wait - left, came back, 
punched up some stuff on the keyboard and said "You're all set"  "Martinique 
- second floor room 2335."  I'm not sure of this but my guess is this - we 
were checking in early.  There were rooms ready at Trinidad right then. We 
had to wait till 3pm for the room at Martinique.  I assume they were trying 
to fill up the rooms that were already available.

We walked around CBR - Port Royale for an hour and then off to MK!
It's now about 2pm.  Never waited for a ride more that 10 minutes - We did 
Thunder Mountain at night for the first time!  EXCELLENT!  Much better!
When we got off this ride we headed to Bears Jamboree and it was 10 minutes 
before Spectromagic - We got a place right in front of the gift shop next 
to the Mile Long Bar hamburger place.  Great view!  What luck!  We enjoyed it, 
worth seeing.  Saw the fireworks there as well that night.  Got in around 
midnight.

Sunday, July 12th

Wake up call at 6:00am.  Grabbed a coffee/juice at Port Royale and were at 
EPCOT at 8:00am as gates opened.  Right to the boat dock and off to World 
Showcase - there were 6 other people on the boat.  We started at Canada and 
worked our way around.  We stopped about 10:00am in France at the small 
bakery and got coffee/croissants/quiche etc..... for breakfast and at 
outside in the courtyard.  Very quaint, very relaxing.  There is literally 
no one around.  We had never toured the Showcase before - ever.  We were 
there until 1:30pm.  

Back to CBR to swim and to get ready for the HDDR!
We were supposed to meet everyone else around 4:30pm before the show 
started.  Well we left on a bus from CBR at 3:30pm, we did not arrive for 
the show that about 1 minute before it started!  This was do exclusively to 
the bus system at WDW.  You cannot take a bus directly to FW from CBR.  We 
had to go to MK first - then wait for another bus and go to FW.  And of 
course each bus you are on makes a zillion stops!  I was so frustrated by 
this!  It happened when we wanted to go to TL and PO as well!  No direct 
buses!  I will never go without a rental car EVER again!  It will be worth 
the $125.00 or so.  (See Claude - it wasn't my fault!) ;)

After seeing Mike S's brilliant performance we were off to EPCOT again - 
where we did Body Wars and Cranium Command for the first time!  EXCELLENT!  
MUST DO!  We did other pavilions as well.  We now had our 1st encounter with 
a brazilian tour group.  (well 6 kids)  We situated ourselves at Germany 
1/2 hour before Illuminations.  5 minutes before the show these 6 kids from
one of "those" tour groups walked right up and shoved there way to the front.
Well, being the quiet, shy person that I am - I grabbed one of them and 
pulled her out of the way and made certain that the others knew they had to 
move.  Well, they moved but not before they "accidently" spilled a fruit 
drink all over my husband's white shirt!  From that moment on, whenever my 
son spotted a group - it would be - Uh oh - there's the "shirts".
I was not as impressed with Illuminations this time as I was in 1988.  It 
was different.  I can't seem to put my finger on what - Dennis seemed to 
think that they did more fireworks and less laser stuff this time.
Once this was over it was back to CBR for some sleep.

Monday, July 13th

We did not set the alarm and were up around 8:00am.  We decided to take it 
slow today.  We had breakfast at the food court at CBR and left for Typhoon 
Lagoon at 10:00am.  We "played" there until 4:30pm.  This is definitely 
worth a day, if not more if you have the time.  We had dinner at 
Bonfamille's at Port Orleans (the bus ride scenario again).  Food was good 
and the restaurant is charming.  I'd eat there again.  Prices weren't bad 
for a sit down place.  Then it was off to MK for a few rides.  We were back 
at CBR at 10:00pm.

My husband and I went to Pleasure Island that evening.  
I was skeptical - but it was fun!  We saw the show at the Comedy warehouse, 
very good.  We stopped in at every other club and looked around.  However, 
we stayed for a very long time - 1:30am - at the Adventurer's Club.
This place was great fun!  If you play along with the cast - you can have a 
great time! (Of course you know me - I jumped right in!)  You know you've 
been on stage alot when you're standing in lines the next day and people 
you don't recognize are walking by saying "HI Kathy!"  ;)  I'm very glad 
Mike S wasn't there with his video camera!
Oh yes, Drinks were very expensive - good way to stay sober!

Tuesday, July 14th

Up at 6:00am, grabbed some juice and toast and we were off to MGM.
None of us have been to this park before.
We went directly to Star Tours and did it twice!  My son liked Body Wars 
better!  NOT ME!  We then did the stunt spectacular - We all loved this 
one.  David stayed after the show and got autographs.  We then did Monster 
Sound Show - great, very funny!  Then the Great Movie Ride - sorry not 
impressed.  Then we had lunch at Prime Time - I can see that this could be 
a very fun time - we had a waitress that wasn't with it so we were 
disappointed.  The food was good.
We then did Catastrophe Canyon.  That was very interesting.
I must admit it is the least favorite of the 3 parks for all of us.

We were out of the park at 1:30pm and went to River Country.  This was fun. 
They have a couple of water slides and some fun rope swings etc....
We stayed until 5:00pm and then went Horseback riding at FW.  It's a slow 
ride but my son really got a charge out of it.  

Then back to CBR to shower and then we went back to EPCOT and did the 
pavilions we had missed earlier and did Body Wars and Cranium Command 
again.  Here we had our only expensive meal during the trip.  We ate at the 
Coral Reef at the Living Seas for dinner.  All the food was excellent!
However, it was very expensive.  I won't do that except at lunchtime.
The restaurant was nice and my son loved watching the sharks go by.

Wednesday, July 15th

Up around 8:00am, had breakfast in the room and then went to MK until 
after lunch.  We had checked out of the room before we went to MK and just 
stored our luggage.  We had an interesting lunch this day.  There is a cart 
in Frontierland almost across from Country Bears that sells smoked turkey 
legs.  They were awesome!!!!!!!!!!!  Try it!
We put our swimsuits etc. in the backpack so we could 
go to the pool before leaving for the airport.  So, we swam at CBR until 
4:00pm and then got dressed and met the Mears Shuttle for our ride to the 
airport.  Our flight on United left 1 hour late from Orlando.

It was a short trip but well worth it.  I can't wait until 97! or maybe 95!

The one place I wanted to go but never had the chance was Beaches & Cream.
I also missed the opening of Splash Mountain by 2 days!  :(

I'll be adding comments in specific notes as I can.

TTFN!

Kathy


290.32Phil & family's reportPHDVAX::RICCIOHelp me Mr. Wizard!Wed Aug 26 1992 20:54132
    
    
    
            Trip report for Phil Riccio and "crew". (Crew includes my wife
    Karen, sons Michael - 7, & Geoffery - 3 1/2 and daughter Alexa 4
    months)
    
    
            As I mentioned in a note somewhere in the file, we took
    advantage of the airfare wars back in May/June time period. We got
    4 roundtrip Philadelphia to Orlando, non-stop, tickets for $580.
    
            We flew Delta (the offical airlines for WDW!) Good flight,
    and they give the kids little boxes with Disney "stuff" in them.
    A little Mickey and Pluto (that would cost a couple of bucks in the
    parks) along with some other things to keep them busy for a while
    during the flight.
    
            We left Friday morning August 14th. Landed in Orlando at 1:45.
    After getting our luggage and rent-a-car (Dollar, which was OK, but I
    perfer Hertz) we headed for the Carribean Beach Resorts. Checked in at
    about 3:00, and got unpacked and organized. (We were in the Barbados
    section.)
    
            We went to EPCOT that night, had dinner at the Coral Reef
    resturant (the one next to/inside of the Living Seas), great meal
    with a great view of the tank. (I'm an avid fish hobbist, with a
    saltwater tank at home, so Living Seas is one of my favorite spots.)
    Went to the Living Seas after dinner. From there we visited Figment
    twice, no lines, no wait. Then we went over to the G.M. & G.E. rides,
    World of Motion and Horizons. Next we did Cranial Command at 
    Metropolitan. Body Wars was a 35 minute wait, plus the baby couldn't 
    go on it, which ment my wife would have to sit around and wait, so we
    moved on. We did the AT&T ride, then worked our way back in to the
    park for Illuminations. All in all a great night, and the baby was a
    peach. She slept from about 7 until the fireworks. She got a real kick
    out of the fireworks, BIG eyes and a big smile.
    
         Saturday morning we met my sister, brother-in-law and their 2
    little ones (18 months and 6 months) in the MK. We did the merry-go-
    round, small world, Peter Pans flight, Pirates of the Carribean & 
    Country Bear Jamboree. Then we did lunch. The biggest disappointment
    was we were not able to get anywhere near Splash Mt. The lines were 
    very long, 45 minutes to an hour, in the hot sun. After lunch we did
    the People Mover (I've always liked this ride for some reason) Delta
    Dream Flight, the Haunted Mansion and the Parade.
    
          Back to the hotel for naps at 3:45. Then back to the park at 8.
    We ate at Port Royal at CBR, then headed back to the MK. We got great
    seats for the SpectraMagic parade (right in front of Hall of
    Presidents. That's our favorite place to watch the parades.) Great
    parade, the kids loved it. Then we had our pictures done over at the
    Pirates of the Carribean. They put a little "do rag" on the babies 
    head and everything. Watched the fireworks, did 20,000 leagues under
    the sea, went back to get our pirate picture, then got ready for the 
    parade a second time. (We debated on whether to do Splash Mt., but the
    line was still to long and the kids couldn't go on. Well 2 of the 3
    couldn't, so we decided see the parade again. The things you do for
    your kids!) Again another great day. And again the baby was excellent.
    There were times we forgot she was even there. With an infant you never
    know, so far so good.
    
         Sunday morning we went to MGM. We did the Little Mermaid first
    thing. Had to wait about 20 minutes, not bad. This was a great show!
    My wife and I liked it as much as the kids. We caught the last few
    minutes of the Dinosaurs "parade". They end up in front of the great
    movie ride. This was a little disappointing. They didn't come down from
    the "truck" and do anything, but the kids liked seeing them. Of course
    with 2 boys we had to see the TMNT, and get pictures. We did the Honey
    I Shrunk the Kids playground for about 1/2 hour, then we just "poked"
    around for a while. Back to the hotel for lunch and naps at about 1:30.
    McDonalds for dinner (got to do this at least once with kids), then
    back to MGM. We did the Great Movie Ride, no lines (my oldest son loves
    this ride) then Star Tours, no wait, then Muppets 3-D, no wait (the
    wait that afternoon before we left was 45 minutes). My younger son loved
    the Muppets. He's into them anyway, but the 3-D was great. Last year
    he wouldn't keep the glasses on. This year he sat there and giggled up
    a storm. My wife and I had more fun listening to him. The baby slept.
    We caught most of the Beauty & the Beast show, from the outside, then
    off to the Indiana Jones stunt show. I found this a little "campy",
    but the boys loved it. Then the fireworks. Another great day!
    
         Monday morning we did a character breakfast at the Contemporary.
    The food was very good and the characters sat with the kids for a
    while, held the baby and let us take lots of pictures. We went back
    into MK at around 10. It was packed! In the 5 times I've been there,
    including last year over 4th of July week, I've never seen it so
    crowded. We walked around for a while then decided to go over to EPCOT.
    EPCOT was just as crowded. We stuck around to see Surprise in the
    Skies, which was wonderful. Then we headed back to the hotel. We went
    swimming at the big pool at Port Royal, then went back and freshened
    up. The last night we went into EPCOT, had dinner at the Odessey,
    caught the show, then headed back into the countries. We went on the 
    Mexico and Norway rides, then headed over to visit Figment again. Went
    on the Land ride then headed over to check out Body Wars. Me and my
    oldest son went on Body Wars (my younger son was a little afraid of
    Star Tours, so he didn't want to do Body Wars) while my wife and the 
    two little ones "poked" around. We did Horizons again, and Space Ship
    Earth one last time, watched Illuminations (well the fireworks part)
    from the front of the park, then we headed out.
    
        We checked out on Tuesday morning, headed west to Bradenton to
    visit family, go out on the boat, do some snorkling and just plain
    relax. 
    
        On Friday we headed back to Orlando for our flight out (7:40pm).
    We did a little shopping in the Market Place, went to Ole Port Royal 
    for a bite to eat, then off to the airport. 
    
        After checking the car in, and our luggage, we headed over to the 
    terminal gates. There's a big replica of "the castle" right in the
    middle of where all the gates for Delta are. Mickey & Minnie were
    there. There was one other couple, looked like honeymooners, and that
    was it. We got about 10 GREAT pictures with the kids. Minnie sat down 
    on the floor and held the baby, Mickey held the baby, it was great.
    
        The flight home was a little bumpy for the first 45 minutes because
    of thunder storms, but after that was pretty good.
    
    
        It was a wonderful trip, with some great memories. We're already
    looking forward to our next trip!
    
    
                                                Phil...
    
    
    PS Looks like our timing was perfect. Three days later "Andrew" blew
    in. Although I heard Orlando didn't get much rain or wind, the Gulf
    coast, where we spent 3 1/2 days in the sun and surf visiting family,
    got quite a bit of rain and wind. Just good timing and dumb luck I
    guess.
290.33Toye, 8/19 to 8/28BUFFER::TOYEWDW 1st TimerWed Sep 02 1992 13:49447

                            Toye Family Trip Report
                           August 19th to 28th, 1992

  WHO:    Wayne, Joan, Daniel (7), and David (5) 

  WHERE:  Contemporary for first two nights, Polynesian for last 7 nights
            (MKC off-season rates - looked into Annual Passholder rates
               but these rates did not start until August 23rd and there
               was no significant price advantage for our stay)

  HOW:    Northwest flights between Boston and Orlando
            (Adults Fly Free fares from early June)

  Wednesday 8/19 -

  Up early and off to the airport by 5:30 for a 7:20 Northwest flight.  Park 
  car at Park 'N Fly (less expensive option than Limo from home).  Flight was 
  delayed slightly due to a cockpit light replacement.  In the air by 8 and 
  arrive in Orlando about 10:40 (20 minutes late).  An uneventful flight and 
  the kids do extremely well.

  Meet Fred Flintstone in the terminal - Northwest uses the same terminal as 
  US Air, the official airline of Universal Studios.  Get round trip tickets 
  on Mear's Shuttle and head out for the Contemporary.  Sea World has their 
  Shamu blimp flying and also notice lots of billboards for Universal Studios.

  Check in to Contemporary (Garden Wing North, 2nd floor), drop off bags in 
  room, and go to Concourse Grill for lunch - good food & value.  Stop in to a 
  couple of shops on the concourse and pick up autograph books and Disney pens 
  for boys.  Back to the room and change for swimming.  Check out both the pool 
  and Bay Lake until thunderstorms send us to the room for a rest.  Joan and 
  the boys nap while I go down to Guest Services, pick up 7 day superpasses, 
  and check on timing for special events (movies, Electric Water Pageant, early
  park openings, etc).

  After rest, we all go down to the Fiesta Fun Center so the boys can play some 
  video games.  Head back to the room and order pizza delivered for dinner.  
  Thunderstorms continuing so cancel thoughts of viewing EWP and turn in early.
  Kids asleep by 9:15 and we are not far behind.

  Thursday, 8/20 -

  Up early and breakfast in our room.  Off to the MK via Monorail by 7:30 
  (Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday & Sunday are early opening days for resort 
  guests at MK - 8 AM).  Make reservations for Diamond Horseshoe Jamboree for 
  1:45 show (end up not going and not getting back to see it later).  Walk 
  down Main St through the Castle and into Fantasyland.  See Eeyore while 
  waiting in line for Snow White's Scary Adventure.  Kids and Joan go say Hi 
  while I keep place in line.  Do Snow White's ride (5 minute wait - David is 
  a little fearful).

  Meet Mickey outside of Magic Journeys (pictures and autographs) and also see
  Roger Rabbit.  Check Peter Pan's Flight but line is too long so do It's A
  Small World instead (no wait).  David loves it and Dan likes it too.  Coming
  out of Small World, meet Pinocchio (more pictures & autographs) then off to
  Adventureland.  Do Pirates of the Caribbean - David has to be talked into 
  this one but then wants to go right back on.  Do Jungle Cruise and stop for
  snack at Aloha Isle - Dole whip all around.

  After snack, do Swiss Family Treehouse and stop for some shopping at the
  House of Treasure (outside Pirate's ride).  Then off to Frontierland where
  we meet Chip (pictures & autograph) and also see Brer Fox and Bear.  See 
  Country Bear Jamboree and then stop for a snack at Sleepy Hollow (outside 
  Liberty Square).  All starting to slow down so go get our hands stamped and 
  head over to the Contemporary via Monorail. 

  Kids do another tour of Fiesta Fun Center video arcade while Joan gets lunch 
  at Snack Center.  Take lunch back to the room, eat and have a rest.  I go 
  pick up the rental car (National at the Car Care Center) and then meet Joan 
  and the kids back at the Fun Center for a few more games and ice cream.  Up 
  to the Top of the World for a look at the view and then back to the room to 
  get ready for dinner.

  Over to the Grand Floridian via Monorail for dinner with Chip and Dale at
  1900 Park Fare.  Buffet is very good.  Kids get Dale's autograph to go along
  with Chip's from earlier in the day.  Pictures with both.  No other Disney
  characters present but waiters hand out autographed pictures of Minnie,
  Goofy and a couple of others.  During and after dinner, huge thunderstorm
  with heavy rains.  Hang out at the GF and do some shopping until the weather
  passes.  

  Back over to the MK - still raining lightly off and on.  First order of 
  business is back to House of Treasure so that boys can even the score on
  Pirate paraphernalia.  Then over to Fantasyland to see Magic Journeys 
  (David really likes the Working for Peanuts 3D preshow) and then ride It's A 
  Small World again.  Split up and do Cinderella's Golden Carousel (Joan &
  David) and Snow White's Adventure (Dan & I).  Meet at the Castle and get
  a seat to watch Fantasy in the Sky.  Good show although we did not have
  the best location.  

  Take Monorail back to Contemporary and get the kids washed up and into bed
  around 11.  Do some last minute packing (we are moving to the Polynesian
  tomorrow) and then off to bed ourselves.  

  Friday, 8/21 - 

  Up early again, do express checkout and arrange for luggage transfer to 
  Polynesian.  Off to Universal Studios and arrive by 9 AM.  Buy tickets
  and then have breakfast at Beverly Hills Boulangerie.  See Woody Woodpecker
  and get autographs and pictures.  Go on Funtastic World of Hanna Barbera -
  15 minute wait, we all think this is a great ride.  Next to ET - 30 minute
  wait, good ride but David is a little scared.  Then Back to the Future - 
  40 minute wait but Joan gets lemonade to help pass the time and beat the 
  heat.  Great ride but a little too intense for David (and Daniel at times).

  Leave Universal (get hands stamped) and return to the Polynesian to check
  in - Bora Bora, 1st floor (nice small building near both pools and Great 
  Ceremonial House - GCH, longish walk to TTC).  Lunch at Coral Isle Cafe in 
  GCH.  Back to room and unpack/rest.  

  After rest, back to Universal and get in line for Funtastic World of HB.  20
  minute wait and then ride breaks down.  Do Ghostbusters instead (no wait).
  Walk around for a bit, get sodas at Schwab's and then leave.  Stop at 
  Goodings on the way back to get groceries (asked for and got fridge in our 
  room at the Polynesian).  Run over to Captain Cook's for sundaes.  Kids in bed
  by 10 and us by 11.  Early day tomorrow for MGM.

  Saturday, 8/22 - 

  Up early and breakfast in room.  Off to MGM by 8 - opening at 8:15 instead
  of 9 all week.  Arrive just after opening and do The Great Movie Ride -
  no line, western side.  Kids like this - not scared by alien at all.  Do
  Muppetvision 3D next.  Great movie and preshow.  Again no line.  Go to Honey 
  I Shrunk the Kids playground to let the kids run around until 10 (first TMNT 
  show).

  See Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles show and get autographs from Leonardo (Dan), 
  Donatello (David) and Raphael (both).  Pictures of Donatello, Raphael and the 
  Turtle Van.  David buys Movie Star Don figure to add to his fast growing 
  collection.  Stop for a snack at the Studio Catering Company and then stroll 
  through Fototoons (kids really like the sound boxes and climbing on the 
  steamroller).  Take their picture next to the outline of Roger Rabbit as a
  hole in the wall.  Walk down to Voyage of the Little Mermaid show - about 20 
  minute wait til next show starts but see some of the Dinosaurs show while 
  waiting in line.  After Little Mermaid, it is about noon so go back to the 
  Polynesian for lunch in room.  

  After lunch, Joan & kids go to pool while I return rental car and then join
  them at the pool.  Back to the room to take a quick nap and then get ready 
  for EPCOT.  Use Guest Services to make reservations at the Land Grille Room 
  for 7:30 and also make reservations for the kids at the Neverland Club on 
  Wednesday.  Off to EPCOT in the middle of a major thunderstorm.  MK Monorail 
  briefly loses power - shades of things to come.  Storm passes and ride in 
  front on Monorail to EPCOT.

  Get to EPCOT in time for dinner but reservations didn't take so have to wait
  an additional 10 to 15 minutes.  Dinner is not very good, definitely not up 
  to the prices, and service is slow.  After dinner, do Kitchen Kabaret (2 
  minute wait) and Listen to the Land (5 minute wait).  Then off to World 
  Showcase to watch IllumiNations.  Technical problems delay the start 15 
  minutes but all goes off well eventually - nice show.  Head out with the 
  crowds and catch the Monorail back to the Polynesian.  Roll into bed around 
  midnight.  

  Sunday, 8/23 -

  Off day planned after going strong for three days and late night last night.
  Dan still up early but does manage to take it easy most of the morning.  Kids
  eat breakfast in room while Joan goes out for coffee - brings back croissants
  as well (yum!!!).  Kids watch cartoons and we read the paper.  Studying up on
  Hurricane Andrew.  Make reservations for Sunday Brunch with the Disney Bunch
  at Papeete Bay Verandah in GCH - brunch is now 10:45 to 2 instead of noon to 
  3 as stated in '92 Birnbaum.  

  Get ready and go to brunch.  Meet Minnie - pictures and autographs.  Great
  food and good value.  Back to the room to get stuff together and head out to 
  the MK via monorail.  Go to Fantasyland and do Peter Pan's Flight (35 minute
  wait) and Mr Toad's Wild Ride (40 minute wait).  Stop for sodas and watch
  20,000 Leagues ride.  

  Walk over to Tom Sawyer's Island to meet with friends from our home town who 
  are down here at the same time (staying at Dixie Landings which they like 
  very much).  See end of afternoon parade going through Frontierland.  Meet up 
  and all go to the Island for an hour or so.  Kids love shooting the guns and 
  playing with the cannons at Fort Sam Clemens.  Return to Frontierland and 
  have dinner at Pecos Bill's Cafe.  

  After dinner, some get in line at Big Thunder Mountain RR while the rest go 
  to Big Al's to do some shopping.  All join up again at BTMRR and most of us 
  go on (30 minute wait).  David decides to skip this one - don't think he 
  likes the size of the mountain.  All head over to Tomorrowland.  Do American 
  Journeys (5 minutes) and WEDway People Mover (no wait) together and then say 
  our goodbyes.  We do Grand Prix Raceway (20 minute wait) which kids love and 
  then walk back to the hub to see the Spectro Magic parade.  After parade, 
  back to Tomorrowland for WEDway People Mover again (I think Dan is trying 
  to get a second look at Space Mountain before making up his mind) and 
  Dreamflight (no wait).

  Have been in the park for about 8 hours (and we thought this would be an off 
  day) so decide to beat some of the crowds and leave before Fantasy in the 
  Sky.  See some of the fireworks on our way to and on the Monorail.  Also catch
  a glimpse of the EWP on Bay Lake as we pass by the Contemporary.  Back to 
  Polynesian and put David to bed (he fell asleep on Monorail ride).  Get 
  sundaes for Dan and us, watch the news to get an update on Hurricane Andrew 
  and then off to bed.  

  What a great day !!!

  Monday, 8/24 - 

  Had planned to go to Typhoon Lagoon today but decided to cancel with the
  uncertainty around Hurricane Andrew.  Instead sleep in late and hang around
  the Polynesian most of the morning.  Do a late breakfast at Tangaroa Terrace
  (nice buffet), walk to the TTC and take Monorail to EPCOT.  By now David is 
  starting to show the effects of walking so much and we begin renting 
  strollers for the remainder of our stay.  

  Do Wonders of Life pavilion first.  Cranium Command is a big hit (also only
  5 minute wait until preshow).  Next do Making of Me - have to wait 20 minutes
  but due to my missing Joan's signals as she waited in line while I took kids
  over to WonderCycles.  Body Wars next but David is not interested.  Dan & I
  go anyway (30 minute wait).  David & Joan do Audio Antics, Frontiers in 
  Medicine, and some of the other hands on exhibits.  For some reason, David
  is fascinated by the phones setup in Frontiers in Medicine.  Kids and I catch 
  pieces of Anacomical Players and Goofy on Health while Joan gets snack.  All 
  join up for snack and then do some more exhibits (back to Frontiers in 
  Medicine) before leaving.





  Over to Universe of Energy - 2 minute wait to preshow.  Kids really like the
  dinosaurs.  Then over to Living Seas - walk right in.  Spend a lot of time
  looking at the exhibits including the fish and the divers (feeding time).  
  Kids really enjoy this pavilion as well.  All getting tired so decide to go 
  back to the Polynesian.  Wait for the second Monorail so we can ride in the 
  front again.  

  Walk from TTC to Polynesian.  Pick up dinner from Captain Cook's and eat in
  the room.  Go over to Moana Mickey's Fun Hut for some video games and then
  back to the room to change for swimming.  Swim in the pool and Seven Seas
  Lagoon until 9 and then watch EWP.  Back to the pool, for some fun with the
  water slide and then back to the room a little before 10.  Get the kids
  settled in bed, late night sundaes for Joan and I, and then off to bed
  ourselves.

  Tuesday, 8/25 -

  Up early and eat breakfast in room.  Off to the MK via Monorail (another
  early opening day for resort guests).  Pick up a stroller and head off for
  Fantasyland.  On the way, see Tomorrowland is open too so go over and do
  Space Mountain (Dan & I - 5 minute wait) and WEDway People Mover (Joan & 
  David).  Meet up and do Starjets (15 minute wait and hot).  Then off to
  Fantasyland to do 20,000 Leagues (10 minute wait) and over to Mickey's
  Starland.  Meet lots of characters (including Pooh, Gadget and Pinocchio)
  but don't stay around for the show.

  Off to Liberty Square to do Haunted Mansion (no wait, David a little scared).
  Stop at the Haunted Mansion Shop and Big Al's again (David just has to get 
  this little rubber tomahawk) and then a snack at Pecos Bill's Cafe.  Kids
  choice and they decide they want to go back to Tom Sawyer's Island.  So over
  to the Island for about an hour or so.  Getting close to lunch so decide to
  leave.  Stop at the Penny Arcade and some of the shops on Main St on our way.

  Take the Gold Pennant Launch from the MK to the Polynesian with a stop at
  the Grand Floridian.  Back to the room.  Sandwiches and yogurt for the kids, 
  sandwiches and fries for us (Captain Cook's again - can't get enough of those 
  Hawaiian Chicken Sandwiches with potato wedge fries).  Change and go to the 
  pool for a short swim (more trips down the water slide) and then back to the 
  room for a rest.

  Head off to MGM about 4:30 - White/Blue bus from TTC.  Get stroller and do 
  Star Tours (less than 5 minute wait).  Then walk into Indiana Jones just as
  the audience warmup is starting.  After Indy, go to Hollywood & Vine 
  Cafeteria of the Stars for dinner - pretty good.  From there we head up to
  The Great Movie Ride at kids request (Western side again, no wait).  After
  TGMR, get set for Sorcery in the Sky.  Front and center seats as we are 
  there just when they set up the ropes.  Great show !!!!

  After fireworks, head back to the Polynesian (Gold/Black bus).  Sundaes all
  around and then off to bed.

  Wednesday, 8/26 -

  Up about 7 and eat breakfast in room - coffee & croissant from Captain Cook's.
  Get ready for Typhoon Lagoon.  Walk to the TTC and take the red flag bus to 
  TL.  Get our spot of sand and towels and then into the wave pool to catch the 
  end of the big waves.  Take a break from the wave pool and do Castaway Creek 
  all the way around.  Back to the wave pool for a full set of the big waves.  
  Kids love it.  Both Dan and I manage to hurt our toes - Dan a scrape, me a 
  bad bruise.  Stay most of the morning then change and leave.

  Take bus back to TTC.  Joan and kids wait at TTC while I go back to room and
  get MKC card for shopping at Village Marketplace.  Throw wet clothes from TL
  in a locker at TTC to pick up later.  Take bus from TTC to the Village
  Marketplace and eat at Lakeside Terrace.  After lunch, do some shopping (toys
  and T-shirts) before taking a bus back to TTC, retrieving clothes from the
  locker, and walking back to the Polynesian.  Snack in room and then rest.

  After rest get ready to go out - kids to Neverland Club and us to EPCOT.
  Take kids over to Neverland Club - they are excited about this.  The friends 
  they had met at MK on Sunday had stayed here on Saturday night and raved
  about it.  We catch the Monorail to EPCOT.  Take a look at Body Wars but the
  wait is too long.  So off to Mexico stopping at a couple of shops along the
  way.  Look around Mexico and then dinner at the San Angel Inn.  Nice meal.
  Off to Norway for a ride on Maelstrom - get stuck in the back row and get
  wet.  Then on to China for their 360 movie - good.  Position ourselves for
  IllumiNations & see some of Sorcery in the Sky from MGM while waiting.

  After another fine IllumiNations show, head out with everyone else to take
  the Monorail back to the TTC.  Sorry but the Monorail is down due to a power
  outage.  Have to take a bus back to TTC - quite a bit of confusion getting 
  the boarding lines setup properly which leads to a couple of angry guests.
  Eventually get back to TTC and walk to Neverland Club at the Polynesian
  to get kids.  They had a great time - pizza for dinner, games and pictures/
  autographs with Goofy, movies, free video games (have to tear Dan away from
  these), and official membership cards.

  Back to the room and listen to more of the kids stories about the Neverland
  Club.  Joan runs out to get something for my increasingly sore throat - a 
  good match with my now black and blue toe from TL.  All off to bed around
  11:30.

  Thursday, 8/27 -

  Last full day at WDW.  Sleep late as we all needed it.  Joan feeling quite
  under the weather today.  Do late breakfast at Tangaroa Terrace - we do the
  buffet, the kids go for the Mickey pancakes.  Take Monorail to EPCOT and
  pick up strollers for both David and Daniel (sore toe still has him limping
  a little bit).  

  Do Horizons (no wait), World of Motion (less than 5 minute wait) and then
  over to Journey into Imagination for Captain EO (walk right in to preshow).
  Get in line for Journey into Imagination ride - Joan gets drinks while the
  rest of us wait in line.  About a 15 minute wait but David is getting tired
  and bothered by the heat.  David really likes this ride and keeps looking
  for Figment throughout.  Play around Image Works for quite a while after the
  ride.  Off to the Land for a late lunch break at Farmer's Market.  Then over
  to Spaceship Earth and walk right on.  

  Return the strollers and catch the Monorails back to the TTC and to the 
  Polynesian.  Back to the room for a quick snack and a long rest.  Make
  our reservations for Mear's tomorrow and notify the front desk that we
  will be using express checkout.  Have pizza delivered to the room for 
  dinner.  I take the kids over to Moana Mickey's for one last go at the
  video games while Joan rests and does a little packing (still not feeling
  quite up to par).  

  Back to the room to change for swimming and down to the lagoon in time to
  see the EWP.  After EWP, off to the pool for swimming and more of the water
  slide.  At 10, back to the lagoon for viewing MK's Fantasy in the Sky.  They
  have speakers set up on an island in the lagoon so you can hear the music
  as well as see the fireworks for Fantasy - nice touch.  Back to the pool
  for a final swim/slide and then back to the room for sundaes all around.
  Kids and us off to bed around 11:30.  Home tomorrow.

  Friday, 8/28 -

  Sleep late.  Up and finish packing.  Off to Tangaroa Terrace for a buffet
  breakfast - kids opt for Mickey pancakes again.  Back to room and have bags 
  taken around to front.  Do some last minute shopping in GCH and then out 
  front to collect bags and wait for the Mear's shuttle.  Off to the airport, 
  check in at Northwest, and head over to the terminal.  See Fievel and get 
  pictures and autographs.  

  Down to the gate but plane is late in arriving.  Add to this an air traffic
  delay in Boston due to haze and the expected 1:45 departure time is now
  3:15 PM.  Get sodas and have a snack while we wait.  Finally get off the
  ground about 4 PM.  Land at Logan just before 7 PM.  Catch the shuttle to 
  Park 'N Fly, get the car and head home.

  Great Vacation !!!!!!!

  Additional Thoughts - 

  This was the first trip for all of us to Walt Disney World.  Thanks to all
  of you for the information and suggestions provided in the notes file.  This
  certainly made our vacation much more enjoyable.  One in particular that 
  worked well for our kids was earning Disney dollars prior to going.  This 
  heightened their excitement about going and they enjoyed having there own 
  money to spend.  They also put more thought than they otherwise might have 
  into how to spend their own money.  

  After the first few days, a stroller proved essential for our 5 year old to
  be able to enjoy the parks.  Even our 7 year old used the stroller from time
  to time.  Had we to do it again we probably would have rented a stroller 
  every day from the start.

  With the exception of one bus driver, who came on real strong with what was
  essentially a sales pitch for WDW, we found the staff and facilities of WDW
  to be good to excellent.  We will definitely plan on staying on property the
  next time we return.  If we were to stay near the MK again, we would not 
  hesitate to stay at the Polynesian.  Would recommend Bora Bora as a small
  quiet building that is centrally located to nearly everything.  Nice place 
  and beautifully landscaped.

  We pretty much saw everything that we had planned to see but will probably
  try to strike a better balance between days in the parks and days away from
  the parks the next time.  The only days not spent in the parks were the day 
  we arrived, the day we left and the day we went to Typhoon Lagoon (and Joan 
  & I even went to EPCOT that night).  Also next time with the kids somewhat
  older we expect to spend more time in the World Showcase at EPCOT and in the
  Tours and Shows at MGM.  The only things we missed that we had planned to 
  see were the Hoop-Dee-Doo (had 10 PM reservations one night but the kids
  were just too tired to have enjoyed it) and character breakfasts (had planned
  to attend one but never seemed to work into our schedule - did character
  dinner and Sunday brunch instead).  

  It was nice to have the parks open late (MK until midnight, EPCOT & MGM
  until 10 through 8/22) since the heat and humidity made it very difficult 
  for us to spend any afternoons in the parks.  Other than the Sunday when we 
  met friends in the MK, the only afternoons we spent in parks were at EPCOT 
  where we could mostly stay inside at the Future World pavilions.  After 
  Hurricane Andrew went by and out into the gulf, even the nights were hot
  and sticky as there were no afternoon/evening thunderstorms to clear things 
  out.  We will probably not go back in the summer for our next trip.  

  What we liked most:

     -  the rides (with the exception of BTTF at US which David did not enjoy,
          they were either good or great)
     -  the parades/fireworks (especially Sorcery in the Sky)
     -  the food (with the exception of the Land Grille, we thought the food
          was good everywhere - even the pizza delivered to the room)
     -  the shows (although some were dated, Kitchen Kabaret, and some were too 
          loud for David, Captain EO, most were very entertaining with Cranium 
          Command and Muppetvision 3D as notable standouts)

  MK was the busiest while we were there and was very busy on Sunday - contrary
  to what is listed in the guides.  Universal Studios was also very busy the 
  Friday we were there.  Both EPCOT and MGM seemed relatively quiet with little 
  or no lines at most rides and shows.  

  One thing we found somewhat disappointing was Universal Studios.  The rides 
  were great (probably better than MGM) but the waiting compared unfavorably to 
  WDW (too much out in the hot sun and too long a wait) and the attention to 
  the needs of guests not as well planned (we found out from others waiting in 
  line at Funtastic World of HB that the ride had broken down, no staff/cast 
  member made any announcement).  Perhaps the disappointment was partly from 
  trying to squeeze too much into one day at Universal but we did not come out 
  feeling that we had gotten our money's worth that day.

  Another disappointment was the number of characters at the special character
  events.  Both the character dinner at the GF and the brunch at the Poly only
  had the themed characters (Chip & Dale and Minnie).  No other characters were
  present although, as I indicated, the waiter did hand out pictures of other
  characters at the GF dinner.  Both meals were very good and the characters
  did spend a lot of time with the guests (Chip & Dale came around twice and 
  Minnie came by several times) but I was expecting more Rescue Rangers at the
  dinner and a "Disney bunch" at the brunch.  

  All in all though, a great time.  We all feel that the vacation exceeded our
  expectations.  We certainly intend to go back but probably not for three or
  four years.  
290.34The Wait is OverVISUAL::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoSat Sep 05 1992 17:0013
    Okay gang you can stop all those postcards and nasty mail messages.
    And Claude...was that you who called me up at 2 A.M. and said, "Finish
    that trip report!"
    
    Well it's done and follows this reply.I actually trimmed it down from
    3100 lines to under 2700 lines. If you copy it from the conference
    you're looking at under 300 blocks.
    
    I hope everyone enjoys it as much as I've enjoyed writing in.
    
    Happy reading.
    
    Mike
290.35The Mother of All Trip Reports by Mike ScopaVISUAL::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoSat Sep 05 1992 17:022696
Scopa Family Trip Report

When: July 7, 1992 to July 27, 1992

Who: Mike, Carol, Holly, and Mike Jr.
     Friends Tom and Mary and son Steve (7)

How: By car (Plymouth Grand Voyager)

Cost: Supplied upon request

Tuesday, July 7th

I woke up at 2:48 A.M. This in itself was amazing since I had been up
until 11:45 P.M. making audio tapes to listen to on the way down. I
showered and woke everyone up, got dressed, and was ready to go at 3:30.

We packed everything, made a last minute check, and took off. We met
our friends at the 495 ramp and our trek began.

We stopped in N.Y. and in N.J. for gas along the way. The big nuisance
(once again) was D.C. Please be advised that unless you plan on go-
ing through Washington, D.C. between 2 and 6 A.M. that you're in for
a harrowing experience. To make matters even worse there are detours
all over the place so just hope and pray that after you get through
the detours that you are still heading South. For those of you who are
trying to estimate how long it takes to drive to Orlando note the fol-
lowing:

 o  We left at 4 A.M. from Merrimack, N.H.
 
 o  We stopped every 2 hours for a rest, pit stop, etc.

 o  We got to Washington, D.C. at 2:15 P.M.

We arrived at the Interstate Motel in Roanoke Rapids, North Carolina
at 6:18 P.M. I thought we made good time. We're talking close to 700
miles for the first day. Actual driving time (time on the road) is es-
timated at just under 12 hours and actual distance was between 680 and
700 miles.

For those of you driving down and thinking of staying at the Inter-
state Inn the room was $26 for the night. You can't top that or the
Western Sizzler Steakhouse nearby.


Wednesday, July 8th

We got up early and took off about 7 A.M. We hit the South Carolina
border at 10 A.M. and kept on going. I didn't want to stop at South
of the Border on the way down but I did plan to stop on the way back. If
you're wondering SOB is just over 500 miles from Orlando, Florida.

The trek continued. We got to Georgia by 2 P.M. and I'm feeling su-
per regarding the good time we had been making.

Although we would stop from time to time to rest, fatique did set in
and that's when I reached for my trusty Mountain Dew. Within 15 min-
utes after it crossed my lips the caffeine kicked in. If you drive down
fill your cooler with the Dew.

We got to the Florida Welcome Center at 4:35 P.M. We took a break and
had some freshly squeezed OJ at the Center. Stop in and get a "Wel-
come to Florida" greeting along with your OJ...it will pump you up.
We grabbed some brochures and took off. We were hoping to reach Jack-
sonville, Fla. before the height of rush hour traffic. Instead, we ended
up driving through Jacksonville during rush hour and picked up Route
4 along the way. Make sure you hug the left lane while driving through
Jacksonville. There is a certain stretch where you leave 95 and go onto
4 and you do this by bearing to the left.

We popped into Daytona Beach around 7:30, secured a room, and had din-
ner at The Olive Garden Restaurant. It was okay but nothing "to write
home about" as one Disney moderator would say. We full-blooded Ital-
ians are tough on Italian Restaurants.

After dinner we got back to the room and I called the CRO to see if
I could get my room a day early and, if not, what else was available.
Unfortunately I could not get into my room.  All of Port Orleans,
Dixie Landings and Caribbean Beach Resort was booked. I inquired about
any type of specials for AP holders, Gold Card members. etc. but noth-
ing short of $200 was available. I wanted to stay on the
property but not at these prices. Also, we really needed two rooms as
we were traveling with another family.

The castmember I had talked to suggested I call in the morning because
some late cancellations sometimes don't show up in the data base
late at night. We all agreed to get a good night's sleep and try again
in the morning.


Thursday, July 9th

I was up early this day, showered, and turned on the TV to check the
weather. A shuttle was landing in Florida and there was a chance that
I would either see it or hear the sonic boom. I got dressed and went
outside. I heard the boom but didn't see anything.

I called the CRO and was told that YES there was a room at DL...but
I needed two rooms. All for one and one for all. Our friends insisted
that we take the room and that they would probably visit St. Augus-
tine and come back and stay at this motel (in Daytona) for this night
and meet us in Orlando the next day.

This was to be their first time in Orlando and I wanted to make sure
everything was just right. I told them that we'd stick together in one
hotel. We couldn't decide on where to stay that night so the plan was
for them to still go to St. Augustine and then meet us in Orlando (we
had maps so we picked the corner of Sand Lake Road and International
Drive) and we would decide then as to where we would stay for the night.

We checked out of our rooms and they headed towards St. Augustine and
we headed towards Mecca...erhh...Nirvana....I mean Orlando. We intended
to redeem our Annual Passport certificates that day.

We got to Orlando at 11:00 A.M. and first drove by our meeting spot
and then headed off to BELZ. We walked through and stopped off at the
Character Warehouse to check out the merchandise. There is not much
floor space but the bargains are there. The kids and I went on a sim-
ulator ride that makes you feel like you are on a roller coaster, speed
boat, and a race car. Afterwards we decided it was time to eat. I sug-
gested it was a good time to make Beaches and Cream at the B&YC our
first destination and WDW meal for this trip.

As we drove past the Swan and The Dolphin we held up crossed fingers
in the same gesture one would use to ward off vampires. Jeez those things
are ugly.

We got to the Beach Club and walked through. It's very nice. We found
Beaches & Cream in no time at all. Ariel's looked neat too.

Five minutes after we had sat down we heard what could very well have
been mistaken as Robby Benson as "The Beast" when this voice bellowed
out, "STEVEN! WHERE ARE YOU GOING? GET BACK HERE OR I'M GONNA BUY YOU
NOTHING!"

We looked up and saw this mountain of a man in his swimming trunks (God
do I dare say they were, yuk, Speedos...like stuffing a cup of jello
into a thimble) chasing after a small boy. The guy was so huge he would
have been turned away from a sumo wrestling school for being overweight.

The guy was so fat you couldn't play catch with him. If you threw him
a ball it would go into orbit. I think the guy had two zip codes. Maybe
he washed up on Stormalong Bay. Anyway he was pretty loud and obnox-
ious. I immediately thought, "Hey maybe the Kuscher's are here too"
since Jackie Kuscher has all the (bad) luck when it comes to encoun-
tering these types of people in restaurants. Jackie you are not alone.
I know I got my fair share this time around.

This man-mountain had entered Beaches & Cream with neither shirt nor
shoes and was immediately confronted by the manager (who was outweighed
by a 1/4 ton) and told that health laws required that he don both if
he intended to stay and be served. She told him this with a smile.

We all had burgers and they were great. Remember, each one is a quarter-
pound of beef so if you order the triple like I did you'll get a triple
quarter-pounder. It's big. I also had the first banana split of the
vacation....and first ice cream since February. For those who weren't
aware I had been dieting since February and lost 40 pounds by running
eating nothing but pasta...no ice cream or desserts whatsover. You'll
soon see from reading this report that I made up for all that diet-
ing.

After we finished our meal we checked out Stormalong Bay. If you get
a chance you should spend an early afternoon here. It's a neat and novel
pool area. After we had checked out the rest of the resort we headed
for the CBR to try one more time for that elusive early vacancy. We
got there and went right over to the Custom House. Again only one room
at Dixie Landings. Sigh. Okay, off to MGM to redeem our AP certs. I flashed
the certs and my reservation slip at the guy at the MGM parking gate
and he let us in without making us pay the parking fee.

We went over to Guest Relations to have our pictures taken (3:45 P.M.) and
get our Annuals. Let's clear up something now regarding the use of An-
nual Passports. You must show your AP upon entering a park for the first
time on that day. When you leave get your hand stamped. When re-entering
a park go through the re-entry gate. Show your AP and your handstamp.
The Disney folks want all AP holders to adhere to this procedure so
they can get an accurate visitor count.

We entered MGM to check out what's new. We browsed through the stores
to get cooled off, caught a glimpse of the B&TB stage show, and checked
out the Soundstage Restaurant. As you walk in you'll see Belle's Village
on the left and The West Wing on the right. Go up the stairs and peer in at
the enchanted rose. If you're luckey you'll run into Belle or the Beast for
a photo or autograph opportunity. The Beast doesn't sign
autographs....can't hold a writing instrument in that maw. Belle appears to
be one of the "Belles" performing in the stage production at the park.

We watched a little Streetmosphere, checked out the new Indiana Jones
outpost area (to the left of the attraction), and saw the vehicles used in
the last Indy Jones picture. We decided to get a drink and then leave for
downtown Orlando to meet our friends.

We pulled into our meeting spot and less than a minute after getting
out of the van we saw Tom, Mary, and Steven pull in right behind us.
The wives and the kids went into the shop next to the Orlando Visi-
tor Center while Tom and I tried to figure out where to stay for the
night. The Orlando Visitor Center is not too big but it does offer dis-
counts and brochures on many of the area attractions. After going through
all the possible places to stay we agreed to stay at the Best West-
ern Hotel on I-Drive. It was close and the price was reasonable. What
was eerie about this place was that the clerk who checked me in had
gotten married in Merrimack and his reception was at the Merrimack Hilton
(now Ramada Inn) just 2.5 miles from MK. The clerk who checked Tom in
was from the same town in Mass. where Tom and I had grown up. Small
world. I must say, I HATE STAYING OFF THE PROPERTY. We ate at the Florida
Grill next door, browsed through one of the 10,000,00 shell stores in
Orlando and then returned to the hotel.

Oh yeah, in a tribute to Annie Lund I ordered the Swordfish for supper. It
was okay Annie except that when I asked for them to cook it up Cajun style
the chef preferred not to because of the juices that would be "lost" on the
veggies. Sure pal...guess he'll never work for Dick Nunis....or for that
matter ever see me walk in that place again.

When I got back to the room I did a check on costs for the trip so far
and made some notes in my trip notebook. I fell asleep around 11:30.


Friday, July 10th

After tossing and turning for 30 minutes in bed I got up, put on my
running clothes and took off for a run at 5:15 A.M. For those of you
who run don't miss out on the opportunity to rack up a few miles down
there. I would suggest you run in the early hours so you are not in
the hot Sun.

I ran between 5 and 6 miles on International Drive that morning and
was caught by surprise by a few early morning sprinkler systems.

A sidenote. There is a Ripley's Believe It or Not Museum being built
on I-Drive about 500 yards from the intersection of Sand Lake
Road and I-Drive. I don't expect it to be completed until '93. Got back
to the room and showered and shaved and was ready to check out and head
for the CBR by 8 A.M.

We checked out of the Best Western a little after 10 (I think my adrenalin
was racing much faster than everyone else's) and headed over to the CBR.
We decided to have breakfast at Old Port Royale. (Breakfast at 10:30
A.M.?....isn't it time for lunch?).

I gave our friends a brief tour of Old Port Royale and pointed out cer-
tain areas of the CBR before we headed over to the Custom House to check
in. I found several messages there waiting for me including one by fellow
mod Jim Pappas letting me know his room number. I had our resort ID's
stamped with a "Transportation Only" stamp and I accepted the mini-bar key
but never did use it.

When we checked in we were told that they were not able to give use
a second floor, non-smoking, parking lot view room in Martinique. In-
stead they gave me a second floor, non-smoking, garden view room in
Martinique at the same price. My smile grew even wider when I also found
out it was a corner room.

It was a pleasure to finally empty out the van and settle in for a cou-
ple of weeks in one spot. We decided to let the kids take in some pool
time while we did some laundry (even though we had very little). Af-
ter that we thought about going over to the Shopping Village.

I found out over there that, yes, the Magic Kingdom Club Card will no
longer be honored at the Shopping Village come December 31, 1992. The
reason for this was kind of cloudy but from what I understand the feel-
ing is that there was some abuse with these cards at the Shopping Vil-
lage and it was determined to eliminate them from use there. I didn't
pursue the "abuse" part so don't ask me what that means.

They will still be honored at the Disney Stores.

I don't recall if it was during this visit to the Character Shop or
a later one that I let Mike and Holly pick out a stuffed character.
Mike picked up a Figment....he'd been waiting two years for it....and
Holly selected Scuttles from "The Rescuers."

By the way, our housekeeper Joyce hid these two characters ev-
ery day and the kids would come back to the room and look for them.

We left the Shopping Village and had Dinner at one of the many Siz-
zler restaurants in Orlando. Since we were close to Goodings we stopped
by to pick up some breakfast items, snacks, and drinks. I did not in-
tend on using the mini-bar at all...but I came close.

That turned out to be my last trip to Goodings. From now on it's Winn
Dixie or Publix. The prices at Goodings have really gotten out of hand.
I went there because it was close by to where we ate otherwise I would
have avoided it. Goodings is at The Crossroads which will be on your
right as you drive to the WDW resort from the airport. Heck, I'll bet
the prices at the CBR food store (in OPR) were competitive.

As we drove back to the CBR we planned for the next day and agreed to
start off early for The Magic Kingdom (TMK). That night I watched MGM's
"Sorcery in The Sky" from my CBR balcony.


Saturday, July 11th

We left the CBR at 7:30 and drove to the Contemporary Resort parking
lot closest to Space Mountain. We parked the car there and walked to
The Magic Kingdom front gate.

Here's a tidbit of info. You must flash your resort ID in order to walk
along the pathway from the CR to TMK. Flashing your AP (if you have
one) won't suffice. Apparently this walkway was originally intended
for the exclusive use of CR guests.

This was an "early" opening day at TMK (Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sat-
urdays) so only resort guests were allowed in TMK at this time. We went
straight over to FantasyLand and hopped on Snow White and Dumbo be-
cause there weren't any lines at these attractions...no wait.
Okay maybe a 15 minute wait for Dumbo. I think that's pretty good my-
self. We ran into Pluto, Goofy (who seemed to be everywhere...more on
The Goofster later), Eeyore, and Minnie in the early morning.

Let's go to TomorrowLand.

The kids went over to Space Mountain and got on in about 15 minutes.
I walked through...not a Space Mountain fan. My last time on this
attraction was 1975. Yes Jim Hill I had a feeling the Carousel of Progress'
days were numbered and so we went on it for probably the last time. It was
pretty meaningful for my wife Carol because she had experienced the
attraction at the 1964 World's Fair.

After that we did another favorite of hers, The Wedway People Mover.
This attraction is good to take in during the mid-day hours when most
of the crowds are lined up for Space Mountain and the other crowd fa-
vorites.

Ah yes we also took in Mission to Mars. Farewell and good riddance.
That attraction got old real fast...should have been replaced in 1981.

Did Dreamflight. Carol talked me into doing the Skyway to FantasyLand.
I'm not really scared of heights but I have my squeamish moments...this
was one. She lured me on by saying, "Think of the great video you can
get!" Uh-huh. Well I rode it but am not sure if I'd do it again. If you're
wondering about how well the video came out...heh heh heh...not
too well considering I pretty much held the camera up withm y eyes closed.

After arriving at FantasyLand we looked towards taking in Peter Pan.
That attraction started to crowd up so we did Small World. Over to The
Haunted Mansion...no waiting...over to Hall of Presidents...no wait-
ing.

Strolled over to Splash Mountain. It's pretty neat looking. The best thing
about it was that Billy Ray Cyrus wasn't standing in front, swinging his
hips and singing about his "achy breaky heart". The water was flowing but I
did not see any boats. There was activity as Mike Batty mentions elsewhere
in the conference. This activity amounted to the filming of some
commercials for the attraction. Still the official word was "Fall 1992."

It was now close to 1 P.M. and after the first five hours we had al-
ready taken in close to a dozen attractions with hardly any waiting
and had some photo and autograph opportunities with several charac-
ters. Time to eat.

We took the monorail to The Contemporary. I got to sit up front and
tape the ride from there...awesome. It was our first and last mono-
rail ride during our entire stay. Hard to believe until you realize
that we used our van quite a bit.

We ate at the Concourse Grille. I forgot what everyone else had but
I recall having the taco salad and this huge banana split named af-
ter the Spectro Magic Parade. If you go there for lunch, ask your server
to show you the dessert platter. You won't believe the size of the "Colos-
sal" carrot cake or that I considered ordering it all for myself.

We drove back to the CBR for a rest. While everyone else took it easy
my son and I strolled around the resort testing every pool. When I got
back to the room there was a voicemail message waiting for us. Kathy
Jette had arrived and had left a message telling us her room number.
I took a short walk over to her room, knocked on the door, and lo and
behold Kathy, Dennis, and a semi-shocked David (who didn't know he was
going to WDW until that morning) were home. Well you could tell we were
all excited from how fast we were talking and what we were planning
to do and of course the Ultimate Get Together - The Hoop Dee Doo Birth-
day Bash.

After a few minutes I noticed time was running late and I had to return to
my room and get ready for a return to the park...actually the plan was to
go to MGM for the evening.

We took a bus that evening even though I had volunteered to drive to
the park. I like the buses but due to the way they route themselves
around the CBR resort they don't get you there faster than your car.
Jim Pappas has scientific proof of this...please see Jim for details.

Okay gang what's the first attraction you do when you enter MGM? All
together now....S-T-A-R T-O-U-R-S. At least it was on this day. Okay it was
early evening and no lines. We went right on and then headed for Muppet-4D
(nah...it's not 3D but 4D). We hit this attraction almost too well. We saw
only half of the pre-show. How good was the pre-show? Well my kids walk around
saying, "Hi! Welcome to my park....".

Anyway the attraction is topnotch. I think the theater is the real at-
traction not the film. There are some surprises. The kids will love
it. Pay attention to the walls of the theater. We took in this attrac-
tion at 6:30...again no lines.

When we left the theater we noticed the Muppet stage show "Days of Swine
and Roses" was taking place around the corner from the exit. We watched
it a bit and then took off.

We headed over to TGMR and went in. I requested The Western side so
we had to wait a bit for a car for that side....gee we waited a whole
10 minutes. I noticed a few things while riding through this time:

 o  In the "Oz" room our guide used a special microphone to talk to the
    Wicked Witch. I thought I saw a special button on the microphone
    that was used to queue up the witch's dialogue.

 o  The other thing I noticed was that the film tribute at the end is
    shorter. When I get a chance to compare my '92 tape with my '90 tape
    I'll know for sure.

We all were thirsty so we headed over to the Soundstage Restaurant for 
some ice tea. I finished my ice tea and went into the men's room where 
I found Jim Pappas waiting for #1 son Greg to finish his "business."
After the usual official mod handshake we discussed what we did that
day and what we were doing that night and verified our time to meet
before "The Bash" the next night. Jim mentioned that he and Mike Batty
were planning to meet at a specific spot (was it the Hollywood Derby?)
to watch "Sorcery...". We were planning on doing some things before
the show so I wasn't sure when I'd be back. We said so long and I headed
out.

The 7:30 Beauty and the Beast stage show was almost over and the next
show had a line a mile long so we decided to take a shot and go over
to Indy. when we got there the theater was pretty full except for the
right side (as you look at the stage area). Mike was leading the way
so I immediately motioned for him to head for this area. It was as if
someone had saved a spot for us. I decided not to take the first row
but the second row instead. The Indy show has a lot of activity on the
right side of the stage area...especially at the beginning and end of
the show. First timers usually head for the center seating area which leaves
the sides free. Head for the right side of the seating area instead...you'll
remember me when the show ends. None of us got picked to be extras in
the show. I gotta get me a Jim Pappas mask if I ever want to get picked.
I noticed some subtle changes in the show and that made it entertain-
ing for me...heck I would have loved it even if the show hadn't changed.
By the way, on the climactic dash from the plane the timing was a bit
off as Indy and Marianne had more than enough time to clear the dan-
ger area before the explosion.

We left the theater and went over to the outpost and area where they
had the three vehicles from "The Last Crusade". We didn't realize how
late it was so we were unable to get real good spots for "Sorcery".
I made a mental note to get good seats next time.

By the way there were people sitting in what I call TGMR piazza long
before this fireworks display. I noticed where they were sitting and
thought about them as I tried to watch the show from behind some tree.

After the show we headed back to the CBR on the bus. I began to think
to myself, "Do I really want to depend on the buses after tonight?"
From the bus stop at Martinique to our rooms we decided that the morn-
ing jaunt would be to EPCOT.

I entered my room and my phone was flashing. It was a voicemail mes-
sage from Jim Pappas. The Pappas and Batty clan had decided to take
in the Diamond Horseshoe Review on Sunday and wanted to know if we
were interested in joining them. Since our group had already commit-
ted to EPCOT for that morning I called Jim to say thanks for think-
ing of inviting us but we had already planned to be in a park other
than TMK for that morning. I told Jim I'd take a raincheck on that invite
and we'd see Miss Lilly and the gang another day later in the vaca-
tion.

After I hung up with Jim I tried unhooking the cable from my TV so I
could watch the tapes I had taken up to this point in the vacation.
The cable was hooked on so tightly to the TV I couldn't loosen it by hand.
I made a mental note to look for pliers the next day....the next day...HEY
THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY....MY HOOP DEE DOO BIRTHDAY BASH BIRTHDAY PARTY!
I was pumped. I watched a little TV and then did nighty-night around
12:30 A.M.

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRINGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRINGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

"Erh! Huh Wha???"

It was dark, still night, the TV clock said 1:48 A.M.

Carol answered the phone. The PHONE?!?!?! 1:48 A.M.????? A phone call
at 1:48 A.M. is never good news no matter where you are. I'm think-
ing, "Oh-oh, who died?"

"Hello? Yeah. No Problem. Oh wow! Oh poor Mary....yeah...yeah. Sure...bring
him over...no problem...yep...bye bye!"

"Well?", I queried.

"That was Tommy. Mary has been suffering from severe nausea and they
think it's food poisoning. Tom wants to take her to a hospital. They
want to leave Steven here with us while they go so they are bringing
him to our room."

"Food Poisoning! Hospital?"

My thoughts ran back to the note one person had put in the conference
regarding the nearest hospital. I had remembered answering the note
with Sand Lake Hospital and had remembered checking the address but
who can remember things like exit numbers? The person at the CBR Cus-
tom House gave me the exit number and the direction to go once I got
off the ramp.

By the way...it's exit 29A...go right at the bottom of the ramp and
drive until you see the Hospital sign on the left hand side (1-2 miles).

When we got to the Hospital there was a ton of paperwork to go through.
I sat in the waiting area watching Barry Nolan on "Hard Copy". Mary
thought that it might be her gall bladder or maybe food poisoning. I
was convinced that I'd be recalling this night on Geraldo Rivera's "NOW
IT CAN BE TOLD."

"Yes Geraldo when we took Mary to the Hospital and the last thing we
expected to be doing on the way back to the CBR was to stop off at the
Custom House and ask for bassinets for the triplets. Their names? Huey,
Louie, and Dewey."

The mind plays tricks on you at 2 in the morning.

While fighting off fatigue in the waiting room this strange woman came up
to me and asked for a match. She looked terrible...weighed about 14 ounces.
She had this great disappearing act...she turned sideways. Yeah lady, keep
puffing on those cancer sticks.

It turned out that Mary had been suffering from a terrible migraine
headache that was doing a job on her head and stomach. They gave her
some medication to help her sleep and hopefully help her battle the
headache and told us to "not waste any time" getting her back to the
CBR and bed "cause she's gonna be in la la land real quick".

We left the hospital and headed back to the CBR with Mary saying, "Oh
Mike this is ruining your vacation."

"Mary, relax. Don't worry about the vacation....relax." Then I remem-
bered about the "la la land" remark the nurse had made and I'm think-
ing "Don't relax too much Mary."

We were able to get Mary to the room before the medication took full
effect. I went into our room, picked up little Steven, and brought him
into their room. Tom and I figured they would not be doing anything
in the morning so I told him I'd give them a call sometime in the af-
ternoon.

I got into bed around 4 A.M. and tried to catch as much sleep as I could
because I wanted to get up around 7 to start the day. I got up around
8:15 and was a bit tired but hey, it's my birthday, day of the big Hoop
Dee Doo Bash.

I was famished and declared that as the official birthday boy I would
pick the restaurant of my choice for breakfast. Time to try that French
Toast so off we went to the Tangarora Terrace. Nice buffet. Nice at-
mosphere. The toast is large and sweet. This is a must for those of
you into big breakfasts. We took our time eating and walked around the
Poly for awhile before heading back to the CBR. Carol felt it would
be wise for me to rest a bit before the big bash. Time for a little
pool. Always a favorite with the kids. But I had an urge to run so I
donned my running shoes and did a lap or two around the CBR. It was
hot but I like running in the heat.

After my run I stopped back at the pool for a quick dip to cool off and
then back to the room to see how the patient was doing. It was close to 1
P.M. when I called. Tom answered. He sounded tired. Mary was still resting
but she seemed to be over the migraine and they were looking forward to
Hoop Dee Doo. I reminded Tom that we were to meet the "gang" at 4 P.M. at
the Trail's End Buffeteria so we would be leaving around 3:30.

I hung up and showered. I checked to see that my camcorder battery was
charging and then selected my birthday outfit. If we ever scan in my
HDD picture you can color my shorts bright yellow. I had a white shirt
on that was covered with different colored Mickeys in different sport-
ing positions.

We drove to FW and got to the Trail's End Buffeteria a few minutes be-
fore 4 P.M. but saw hair nor hide of anyone. I was thirsty so I had an
ice tea or two before the Pappas-Batty posse arrived. They have great
ice tea. After the usual salutations and introductions which took about
15 minutes, Mike presented me with a bag telling me it was a little
something from all of them.

I was a little upset that these guys would spend money on my until I
reached in and pulled out a RED BRAZILLIAN TOUR SHIRT THAT SAID "TOUR
TOURISMO" on it.

Well here we are...16 people laughing and joking about the shirt as
other guests are walking by and thinking, "These people are sick pup-
pies!" I don't know what Mike had to give to get this shirt but I'll
treasure it always. It was a great gift and of course I had to try it
on. Once the shirt went on the cameras were flashing left and right.
The paparazzi came from everywhere. There were people from the National
Enquirer, The National Star, USA Today, you name it. They all wanted
to catch on film what people all over the world thought would never
be seen by the human eye: yours truly in a Brazillian Tour Shirt.

It had to happen. If the Berlin Wall came down then this could hap-
pen too. By the way, after returning home and doing laundry I finally
realized why our Brazillian neighbors purchase so much clothing when
they visit Orlando. The shirt shrunk quite a bit after it hit the laun-
dry. I plan on displaying it proudly in my office. It's now small enough
to fit a very trim Cabbage Patch Kid.

After all the excitement had died down we suddenly realized that
Kathy, Dennis, and David Jette still hadn't shown up and it was get-
ting late. WDW veterans late for Hoop Dee Doo? Unheard of.

When they showed up Kathy said, "First thing I'm gonna put into the
conference is "DON'T DON'T DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT NOT RENTING A CAR
DOWN HERE!" My memory is sort of foggy but I think she said when they
left the CBR they had to take a bus, boat, camel, Minnie Moo, water
sprite, and golf cart to get to Pioneer Hall. Going from Resort to Re-
sort by bus is time consuming. A car is a necessity down there if you
want to get around to all areas in a relatively short period of time.

We piled into Pioneer Hall and no sooner do we get seated when Jim,
Mike, Kathy, and everyone else starts announcing to the whole place
that it was my birthday. I was a marked man.

The show started with the Pioneer Players coming in from the back and
doing the opening Hoop-Dee-Doo song. Soon after that the Players came
down onto the floor and the usual, "Oh they come from..." words be-
gan to ring throughout the hall. For that night at least Mike, Pat,
Martin, and Elizabeth Batty were from Massachusetts. The New Hampshire
people were outnumbered by the Massachusetts people 8 to 7 so we heard
"Six-Bits" sing, "Oh they come from good Ol' Mass...now they're sit-
ting on their.....chairs!" Remember, we're in WDW.

Of course "Happy Birthday" was sung to me and a few other people and "Plunk!"
a big ol' button was slapped on my shirt letting everyone know I was
a birthday boy. The button was glowing. It was loaded with that stuff that picks
up ultra-violet light real well. The show was good as ever, the food
was filling, and right at the time the dessert arrived it was time to
cast for the big "Pageant".

The "gang of 18" was lobbying for me to be the "star" of the show but
Lorelei told them to stop picking on me and asked me if I'd like
to go up on stage. I told her I'd be happy to be the Indian Brave. On
the way up to the stage she told me that I just wasn't the type to be
the "star" of the show. I thanked her and she chuckled.

Once up on stage I got whisked off to one of the wings where the cos-
tumes were and I winced when I saw the dreaded tutu hanging on the hook.
A big sigh as I was handed the feather, donned the loincloth, and informed
of my queue and lines. Calling it a loincloth was a lie 'cause you'd have to
own pretty strange loins for it to cover where they put it on you. 

On queue I ran out on stage hooping and hollering, stared at every-
one, and yelled out "Uga-booga...UGA-BOOGA!" I was immediately attacked
by the Texas Ranger and was supposed to "die" as he clobbered me. I
died too slowly. As I went down the Pioneer Players were whispering "You're
taking too long to die."

I rose to a thunderous applause (laughter from my entourage) and stood
on the left side of of the stage. Lorelei was at my side telling me
my next task. Again I was attacked and beaten up. This time it was not
only the Ranger but also a few Pioneer Hall Players who were beating up on
me. They actually busted one of the "clubs" on me.

Now for my big scene. Davey Crockett dies and I fall to the ground pound-
ing the stage and yelling, "Davey you can't die. You're my hero!. No,
no, no No NO NONONONONONONONO............"

I kept going until Lorelei tapped me on the shoulder and I looked up
and the hall got quiet.

"That's enough!", she said and I got up amidst a standing ovation and
a . I stood by the side and she came over, winked at me and said, "I
knew you were the emotional type."

Yes it was all planned. She had told me beforehand to really throw a
tantrum and that if the crowd got into it she would let me go for awhile.
She did.

For my effort I received a special card and photo commemorating my per-
formance. It was fun....I don't know if I would have gone up there if
the "Gang of 18" hadn't been there. Nahhhhhh...I would have gone up
anyways. But I suggest that when you attend HDD go with a crowd...it's so
much more fun. Anyone want to go to my 1997 Bash? Start saving.

Well after the show we said goodbye to all and hoped we'd run into one
another in and around the resorts and the parks. I thanked everyone once
again for my present.

On the way back to the parking lot (which you get to via bus) the
bus driver overheard me talking with people and saw my button. He heard
someone mention my name soooooo he said, "Ladies and Gentlemen we have
a celebrity with us on our journey back to the parking lot. His name
is Mike and he's sitting up front...and it's his birthday. Let's all
sing "Happy Birthday" to Mike." and I was serenaded again. Once at the
Parking Lot I thanked the bus driver for his thoughfulness and we headed
for our Contemporary Resort Parking lot spot en route to TMK while Tom,
Mary, & Steven headed back to the CBR. They elected not to use up a day on
their SuperPass just for a few hours in TMK. This was a wise decision...I
remember making the same decision 2 years ago after 8 hours at Sea World.

We got to TMK in no time at all. We did Pirates (15 minute wait) and
the kids ran over to do Big Thunder Mountain while I checked out Splash
Mountain (which was flowing water but no riders).

After the kids rode Big Thunder a few times we realized it was about
9:15 and Spectro was just making it's way into Liberty Square. This
was our first glimpse of this new parade.

Now I'm a big ELP fan...saw it the first year ('76) it came out and
always loved it. But I must say that SpectroMagic is just as good if
not BETTER. Why? Well first off I liked the Music...it's real music
and not synthesized music...and it's on a much grander scale.

Secondly, the floats seem to have more detail...try to find the two
spots in the parade where Tinker Bell appears. The floats have audioan-
imatrons and animation which the ELP didn't have.

Next, I like the shift from all one color to mixed and back again....ELP
didn't have this.

Finally, there was a real song with real words to blend with the mu-
sic ("On this Magic night...") which, when you hear it, will stick with
you. It is this song that will serve as my audio bookmark for this trip.

Maybe Jim Hill can do some investigating for me. I'm willing to guess
that by next Summer EMP will have a B&TB float with Belle, Beast, Lu-
miere, and the Gang singing "Be Our Guest". You heard it here first.

Once the Parade was over we headed towards FantasyLand to watch "Fan-
tasy..." from behind the castle.

Video Tip: If you want to tape the fireworks one of the more inter-
esting angles is gained by standing in front of Fantasy Faire and po-
sitioning your camera so the words "Fantasy Faire" appear at the bot-
tom of the screen while the fireworks explode at the top half. It came
out pretty good. Remember that when you watch the fireworks from behind the
castle you may not get good audio on the music being played.

The kids rode the carrousel and then we all took in Magic Journeys.
My trip to the hospital some 20 hours earlier began to take it's toll
as I almost dozed off during the film.

We headed towards Liberty Square to get a good spot to see and film
Spectro at 11 P.M. I ended up less than happy with the angle I got and made
it a point to tape the parade one more time.

After the 11 P.M. SMP we thought it best to get the birthday boy (that's
me) home 'cause I was tired.

We left the park and headed to the CR parking lot. Ahh the Bonnet Creek
Parkway. Got to the CBR in less than ten minutes. Spent some time jot-
ting down some notes from the day's activities, watched TV for a while,
and then off to dreamland.

Monday, July 13th

We got up at 7:30 and showered. We took the bus to EPCOT
and had breakfast at the Stargate Restaurant. If you're real good you
may be able to sneak into World Showcase by heading out the back of
the restaurant. I pretended not to know that I wasn't supposed to do
this before a castmember waved me back. Can't blame a mod for try-
ing.

My intention was to make a beeline for World Showcase but everyone else in
my party wanted to go to Imagination. I reluctantly went with the majority
and we headed towards Figment's pavillion. Although the attraction was
running it seemed out of tune. Some areas looked to be in need of some-
thing (like lighting or more audio). Also, our picture was not taken
at the end.

I'm thinking "World Showcase" but that plan was dashed when Dreamfinder
and Figment showed up outside Captain EO. Of course there were pic-
tures being snapped. I thought Mike was going to rip Figment's head
off when the little dragon tossed Mike's Miami Hurricane hat. If looks
could kill that dragon would be toast right now.

Carol headed into EO as I looked towards World Showcase. American Adventure
was calling me. I was thinking of the crowds we WOULDN'T be avoiding later on.

Let me say something about Captain EO. The best part of this attrac-
tion is the Pre-Show. It's called "Capture a Smile". Don't miss it...and
tape it if you can. You can have all the 3D effects in EO....I like
the simple pictures and words to "....everytime you Capture.......A
SMILE!!!!!"

Okay, we give Angelica Huston the Victoria Jackson treatment (cable...don't
you love it?) and YES we are heading for the boat to take us to World
Showcase...it's not too late 10:30. C'mon rudders.

Ahhh...got to American Adventure....sat real close to the stage and
got good footage. I'm a sucker for Disney Americana stuff....love that
song "America....Spread you're golden wings..." Mike Batty, how does
one from across the Pond take towards AA? Inquiring minds want to know.

We stopped over in Italy and I treated everyone to Amaretto Chocolates
before Tom got swept up in the Italy Streetmosphere. Before he knew
it Tom was singing and swinging a watermelon and was being chosen as
a groom in a mock wedding." Good fun. Of course Tom had the last laugh
when they asked him his name and he told them his full name..........in Ital-
ian.

It was getting close to Noon and since we really didn't have a good
breakfast our tummies were growling. Gee we're near Norway and Morocco
why don't we try....only my son Mike was game so we opted to walk over to the
Farmer's Market in the Land Pavillion.

On our way we ran into FoulFellow and his feline companion from Pinoc-
chio. They were just at the end of their autograph session and waved
goodbye and walked behind a fence. I went up to the fence and peeked
through a hole. To their credit these castmembers played their roles
until they were out of sight. I watched them up to 100 feet away still
in character. Of course they would check to see if anyone was watch-
ing too.

When we got to The Farmer's Market I saw a lot of people wearing my
birthday shirt. Actually ever since I put on that present in FW Carol
has called the Brazillians my "people." "No way am I gonna deal with
my....hmmmmm, hey guys follow me!"

I brought everyone over to The Land Grille. The Menu looked good so we
ate there. I had never eaten there before. Try one of the stir-fried
entrees and the carrot cake. They have butter shaped like little Mickeys.
They stand about 4 inches high. Our waiter told us that he waited
on one table where they sliced Mickey up and then put drops of ketchup
on him to simulate....errrr enough of that. Remember, veggies served
are grown right there. The Land Grille is another restaurant I'll be
sure to visit on my next trip.

Okay it's a little after 1:00 P.M. and we are outta here. We took a
ride on Spaceship Earth on the way out. The line was 1/10 as long as
it was just 10 minutes after EPCOT opened. Are you first-timers paying at-
tention?

We took the bus back to the CBR and I borrowed some pliers from Tom
to loosen the cable to the TV so I could hook up and watch some of my
videotapes. I watched Hoop Dee Doo and wondered why the camera
was shaking while I was onstage.....until I heard Carol laughing her
head off.....thanks honey....Carol loves me because I make her laugh.....sort
of similar to Roger and Jessica Rabbit.

After a 3 hour rest we took off for TMK. We bussed it...first and last
time taking the bus to TMK. It was raining. Mother Nature thought the
Scopa's were going to EPCOT. When the Scopa's go to EPCOT it rains....just
ask Jim Pappas.

Upon arriving at TMK we immediately went up the train station and took
the WDW Express to Mickey's Starland, passing through Splash Mountain
along the way. We got off at Starland to find Suzy and Perla Mouse (church
mice from Cinderella) signing autographs and posing for pictures. Also
posing were Foulfellow and his feline friend.

We braved the Teacups and had a light supper at the Columbia Harvest
House....late home of the no longer to be found Monte Cristo's (sob).
We then headed out to Liberty Square to catch Spectromagic while my
kids and "Uncle Tommy" took off for Big Thunder. They went on it 3 times
while Spectro filled the streets with light and music. It took a while
for Tom and the kids to get back to us so we had a relatively poor spot
(bridge to the Hub) to watch "Fantasy..." Tom then wanted to see this
thing called "Dole Whip" I had been talking about.....he treated ev-
eryone to this wondrous delicacy.

We then took in "Pirates..." and then decided to head home...had to hurry
'cause it was getting close to 11 P.M. and the Spectro parade. We made it
to Town Square just as the parade was coming out. Another 5 minutes and we
would have been caught. Luckily I remembered to walk down Main Street on
the Tony's side.

We drove back to the CBR and ahh yes there were my daily messages on the
phone from Jim and Mike. Jim's message was on Diamond Horseshoe and Mike's
was on the CBR water activity offer (posted elsewhere in this conference).

Watched a bit of TV, took off for Pleasure Island and the Adventurer's
Club where Kathy Jette was the center of attention. I wonder if Bob
Saget ever got the tape I made that night at the Adventurer's Club.

Back to the CBR before Kathy would spot me and off to sleep.

:^)


Tuesday, July 14th

We left around 8 A.M. for MGM and ran into the Jette's on the bus. Hi
guys.

First stop was to make reservations at Prime Time. Since I made reser-
vations for 7 I needed to make reservations for 11 A.M. to insure
we'd all sit together. Remember if you have a large party most restau-
rants may not be able to guarantee that they will seat you together.

Caught up to everyone close to Star Tours and we got front row cen-
ter and wouldn't you know it my video camera was on during the ride....tsk
tsk. It's easy to tape in Star Tours but not so easy in BTTF at Uni-
versal Studios. After Star Tours we strolled through "Honey I Shrunk..."
playground. Don't spend too much time here unless you have some kids
who want to try it out.

We then saw TMNT and April and got their autographs.

We then spent some time at Toontown and walked down Mickey Avenue on
our way to Prime Time. When we got to Prime Time we ran into "Mom" from
two years ago. She remembered us. We had "Aunt Judy" for our waitress.

Aunt Judy said my plate was a "happy plate" and told the whole restau-
rant I had left tongue marks. Tom was caught covering his veggies but
when we made airplane noises and Aunt Judy came in with the fork he
kept his mouth closed.

I was curious to see what she would do. She told us to hold up our in-
dex finger and on the count of three point at Tom and yell "Shame! Shame!
Shame!"

We did it.

I surprised Tom with a birthday cake (free carrot cake for
birthday people at Prime Time) and Dad delivered it and sang "Happy
Birthday". Tom's birthday was two weeks away so he was trying to tell
everyone they should be singing happy birthday to me. He even
pulled out his driver's license to proove it. I picked up the bill for
another birthday present for Tom.

We went over to Superstar TV but I don't remember if I had my "Cheers"
shirt on that day. It didn't matter as casting had already taken place
before we arrived. After that Tom, Mary, and Steven went back to the
CBR and we stayed for the 1:45 P.M. performance of B&TB at Theater of
the Stars. This was not a good idea because the trees are not tall and
large enough to provide shading and we were experiencing record high
temps. We saw the show. Oh yeah, before the show started I darted out
to see the stars of "Honey I Blew Up the Kid" come up Hollywood Blvd.
They use twins in that movie for the little kid that becomes huge. Mar-
cia Strassman, the twins, and the teenage girl in the movie was in the mo-
torcade....no Rick Moranis.

B&TB was okay...we planned to see it performed at night on another day.
It was early afternoon and we were still in the park....and a bit warm.
We went back to the CBR to cool off and check some of the footage I
had taken. While there I noticed I had about 20 quarters in change so
my son and I took off for the OPR game room. After we depleted the quar-
ter supply we purchased a few more postcards and headed back to the
room. We stopped by the pool and ran into Mike and Pat Batty. I asked
them about their dinner. I'm sure Mike will fill everyone in on the
details so I won't steal his thunder here. Mike, make sure you tell
everyone about the acrobats, the chandelier, and the ostrich. That's a
hilarious story.

Carol came down to the pool to tell me Jim was coming over. When Jim
arrived once again we had three mods in one place. We discussed various
aspects of our trip and we probably could have held court at poolside
giving advice to the guests. We made tentative plans for a Friday Diamond
Horshoe Review get together and went on to our destinations for that night.

My clan left for EPCOT at 5:30. This was to be a strange night as I
made the mistake of not checking the backpack for ponchos and umbrel-
las. At EPCOT we took a lot of pictures and I tried to get some footage
of the monorail with Spaceship Earth and the Sunset in the background.
This can best be taken right outside the Odyssey restaurant.

There was a call to do "Body Wars" so we headed over to WOL. Carol and
I sat it out and spent time doing the non Body Wars activities in the
pavillion. You really can spend a lot of time in that pavillion. I was
a little parched so I got myself a banana-pineapple Smoothie. Yup....it
was a close Dole Whip clone. After about two hours in WOL we then went
over to ENERGY. From there we decided it was getting late and we were
all hungry. We headed for World Showcase not really sure as to where
we would eat. Along the way we stopped in Mexico and experienced The
River of Time. I'm still a bit cool on this ride...it's okay. I like
the inside of the Mexican pavillion.

From there we headed over to Norway and lo and behold while waiting
in line for The Maelstrom we saw the official WDW show participant Jim
Pappas and family. The Maelstrom seemed awfully short this time around.
We headed into the shops and then we heard Mother Nature go to town.
Rain, lightening, and thunder. It lasted long enough to cancel Illu-
minations for that evening. Remember I had not packed the ponchos (well
there was one) so we sat this storm out until it pretty much let up
(around 9:30ish). We headed back to the CBR a bit disgruntled. Jackie
Kuscher draws obnoxious people in restaurants and I draw Mother Na-
ture's fury when I go to EPCOT. It never rains in MGM when I'm there
and it's rained once in my 30 something trips to TMK...but EPCOT ex-
periences rain 3 out of every 4 visits to that theme park.

We got back to the CBR and were famished. At OPR we tried the pizza. It was
hot, cheesy, and gooey....but it was food. It's decent pizza. After
we finished our pizza we took a walk around the resort then strolled
back to the room to catch a good night's sleep.


Wednesday, July 15th

We took off at 7:45 for MGM. Our first objective was The Voyage of The
Little Mermaid. I don't know if we saw the first show of the day but
I suggest that when you go to MGM you decide beforehand whether you
will head to Star Tours or VOTLM as you enter the park. They are in
opposite directions so decide real early. Star Tours has the edge be-
cause you can go from ST to Muppet-4D.

The Voyage of the Little Mermaid is VERY popular. I think it may be
the most popular attraction in MGM. They have done an excellent job
in converting that theater into a subterranean environment. I think
it's the only attraction I recall where no flash photography took place.
Flash photography is not allowed because it poses danger to the per-
formers on stage. I think this attraction is here to stay.

From VOTLM we headed over to The Backstage Tour and Catastrophe Canyon.
I know I need to space out my trips more 'cause I knew the tourguide's
shpiel by heart.

After our trip we were passing by Muppet-4D and there was no line so
we headed into the theater and walked pass the pre-show into the main the-
ater. This time around I paid close attention to Statler and Waldorf
and other features in the theater. Pay attention to the walls.

We then headed to The Monster Sound Show and Tom, Mary, and Steve de-
cided to head back to the CBR to rest up. We planned to do a lot of
stuff that evening and we all know that 7 year olds need to "recharge"
before attempting to do such an evening push.

We did the Monster Sound Show and then saw the Sinclair Family again.
Gee they were named Surprise Family of the Day again.

Finally Carol saw something she liked. they have very nice cardigan's
in one of the stores on Hollywood Blvd. and she found one she liked.
I immediately said, "Let's get it" before she could decline saying it
was too much money. Holly and I also picked up a shirt apiece.

We had some camera problems and went into The Dark Room to have the
camera checked out. They are real nice and fixed it for us. We got Tom
a lens cap holder while we were there....another pre-birthday gift.

The kids decided they'd like to have lunch at Old Port Royale so we
headed back to the CBR for Lunch. After lunch the kids decided to take
in some pool time and I headed over to the Custom House to cash a Trav-
eler's Cheque....with my videocamera of course. On the way back I ran
into Kathy, Dennis, and David Jette. They told me what they had done
and what they had planned....Kathy had it all down to the minute. They
were leaving later that evening...and it showed on their faces...faces
mixed with content and melancholy I might add.

I walked through the pool area and the Scopa siblings were enjoying
the Martinique pool.

That night we all went to Medieval Times. It's a dinner show involv-
ing jousting knights. The crowd gets to root for their knight. The food
is not that great but the combo of food and entertainment is well worth the
money.

Of course our wives somehow got word to the King's announcer that it
was Tom's (July 27th) and my (July 12th) birthday. When it was announced
Tom and I arose from our seats and lifted our goblets and waved to the
crowd....I'd say there were 1200 people in the house.

We returned back to the CBR around 10 P.M. and watched Sorcery in
the Sky from the balcony. I watched some tapes and a little TV before hitting
the pillow.


Thursday, July 16th

I got up early and strolled down to OPR to get breakfast (muffins and
juice). The bakery at OPR has pretty reasonable prices.

We then drove to TMK (CR) for the early opening and went right to Mickey's
Starland. I got some great footage of all areas of Mickey's Starland:
Mickey's House, Minnie Moo, and other areas. We camped out near the
gate where the characters come out and they came out in 10 minute in-
tervals...Winnie the Pooh, Brer Fox, Gadget, Brer Bear, and Foulfel-
low. Pooh was besieged by tons of kids and the poor person inside couldn't
get to a shady spot. After some ten minutes of photos and autographs
in the sun I overheard the castmember in charge of these characters
apologize to Pooh for not helping Pooh get to a shady spot sooner. Pluto
showed up also.

After all the photos and autographs we headed towards FantasyLand and
rode the Teacups. Carol and I did Mr. Toad while the rest of the gang
got in line for 20K. Carol and I was in and out of Mr. Toad before the
others were back from 20K. While waiting for them I did a little test
and judged the difference in time between the left and right lines.

I focused on two people who got at the beginning of the lines and split
to the left and the right. The person on the left got on the attrac-
tion 5 minutes faster than the person on the right. Over the course
of 12 attractions this is a whole hour so even if you hit the parks
early go to the left. A morning hour is very valuable. By the way NEVER
did I experience a right side advancing faster than a left side.

My Mickey watch was showing almost 11 A.M. and I was getting a bit
uncomfortable being in FantasyLand after 11. The gang minus Mike
and me opted to go on Small World. Mike and I decided to sit this one
out (singing dolls get to you after a while) and we discussed what would
be good to do for the rest of the day. Mike suggested we talk about
this over lunch. I concurred.

We went to the WDW Express train stop at Mickey's Starland and took
the train to Town Square. We ate at Tony's and I would rate the meal
one of the best during my stay. If you haven't heeded the advice be-
fore heed it now...eat at Tony's during the day but not at night. The
menu changes and gets even more expensive at night.

I don't recall what everyone had but we were all quite content with
our meal. Try the minestrone soup. It's very good. Put Tony's on your
list of places to eat in TMK...just don't go there for dinner.

We decided to stake out a spot in Town Square for the Surprise Parade.
I found a spot on the outside of the hub so that the floats would come
towards me. I found the parade to be short and sweet...not that big
of a production. I prefer the usual character parade. Look for a Goofy
parade to replace this one in October.

We left TMK around 3:30 and went back to the CBR. This was Tom, Mary,
and Steven's last day and they wanted to rest a bit and then come back
to TMK that night before leaving this world of, in Len's words "talk-
ing mice and ducks."

Jim called and we agreed on seeing The Diamond Horseshoe Review to-
gether at the 4:30 show on Friday. Jim volunteered to make the reser-
vations.

We headed back to TMK around 6:00 P.M. sans Tom who wanted to rest up
and conserve energy for his drive in the morning as they had plans to
drive to Fort Ritchie to see Mary's parents. Steven and Mary accom-
panied the Scopa clan to TMK. Mary did not bring her camera...would
she regret this?

When we got to TMK the kids went to City Hall to pick up some Span-
ish and French TMK guides to bring back to their respective language
teachers. We got some raw info at City Hall. Carol was told that Min-
nie was at Mickey's Starland. I thought this was pretty odd since char-
acters aren't usually out towards dusk (when it becomes very diffi-
cult to see out of those dark peekholes). We went to Mickey's Star-
land and no Minnie. A castmember said the characters retired "for the
day" 45 minutes earlier, "But you can see them in the Spectro-Magic
parade."

Mary began to think about renting a camera so we checked into it. For
those who do not already know you can rent a 35mm camera for $5 for
the whole day....with a $100 deposit.

We still hadn't seen Peter Pan and took a shot. It wasn't too bad for
7:30 on a Thursday night...20 minutes. We had this urge to see Coun-
try Bear Jamboree and we cut through Liberty Square to Frontierland
and saw the show with "bearly 30 people." It was the original show "There
was blooooood on the saa-aaadle."

When we came out of CBJ WHAM! Spectro was in full swing. We headed over
to The Plaza Restaurant and got there about 15 minutes before "Fan-
tasy..." was to start. It was approaching 10 P.M. and we hadn't eaten
since Tony's some 9 hours earlier.

Steven had a small meal and some ice cream but the rest of us had ice
cream with Mike and I making history at the restaurant. Mike (all 95
pounds of him) and I each ordered and FINISHED an ice cream sundae called
"Bicycle Built for Two." You guessed it...it's made for 2 people....we're
talking 6 scoops of ice cream and all the fixings. How big was it? Cut
off the top of a two liter soda bottle and fill it with ice cream.

We got plenty of stares from everyone including the staff. Our wait-
ress said she had seen one person finish that sundae only once before
and had NEVER seen two of them finished at the same table. Try it...don't
eat dinner beforehand.

I made points by telling the staff that their ice cream is better than
the ice cream at Beaches and Cream. Of course when I was at Beaches
and Cream I told them that they replaced The Plaza Restaurant as far
as having the best ice cream. Remember to mention this to your wait-
ress BEFORE you order...I'm sure you'll thank me for this bit of ad-
vice.

After that slightly fattening episode we trekked over to SpacePort (get
it? trekked! Space?) to look for a Space Mountain shirt for good ol'
Tom back at the CBR. No luck there or at Mickey's Space Trader.

It was approaching 11 P.M. and little Steven was looking pooped so we
headed back to Main Street U.S.A. We walked along Tony's side so that
we could leave during the SMP. We got to the Town Square just as the
parade was beginning.

Mary and Steven gazed at the lights, listened to the wondrous music,
took a deep sigh, and bade farewell to this...the most magical of king-
doms they had ever seen.

Back to the CR parking lot and a short drive back to the CBR. We were
all bushed and planned to do the character breakfast at the Contem-
porary Cafe in the morning.


Friday, June 17th

Up early and helped our friends pack. We followed them to the Custom
House and they checked out while I cashed a Traveler's Cheque and bought
a few stamps.

They followed me to the Contemporary and we went upstairs to the Con-
temporary Cafe for the character breakfast. Characters for this break-
fast included Tigger, White Rabbit, Pluto, Goofy, and Chip & Dale. The
meal was very good but I'd say breakfast at Tangarora offerred more.

When Goofy came to our table I asked him when his parade was start-
ing. Goofy made an "O" on the table. After some wild guessing I said,
"October??" and he nodded in the affirmative. I then said, "Ohhh, when
all this 20th Anniversary stuff is over!" And Goofy wiped his brow as
if to say "Thank Gawd when that's over!"

We once again thought about how much of a rarity it was to see Don-
ald, who wasn't here either. Our waitress Laurie said that Donald his-
torically has never gotten along with the chipmunks so the Disney folks
try to extend that to the characters. When you do see Donald you usu-
ally don't see C&D...but we did...later on in our trip. See if you no-
tice where while reading this report.

It was time for Tom, Mary, and Steven to leave. Hugs and kisses and
good-byes. Tom & Mary thanked us for being their tour guides and said
they estimated it would have taken them nine days to do what they did in
just five days. I felt good that they were pleased with their trip but I felt
bad that they had to leave since there was so much more for them to
see.

After they left I asked Laurie for the check and found out that Tom
had picked it up...sort of a going away gift you might say. Before leav-
ing the Contemporary we spent some time in the game room to work off
the breakfast. From there we went to Old Town in Kissimme. I was not
impressed. On the way back we stopped off at Publix for drinks and snacks
and breakfast (muffins) for the next day.

Upon returning to the CBR we put the drinks on ice and listened to voice-
mail from Jim once again confirming the 4:45 Diamond Horseshow Review
reservation. But the big news was that Splash Mountain was open and
Jim was looking forward to going on it with us as he had already par-
taken of the "Laughin' Place" earlier in the day.

Oh man now I started shaking. Not being a true lover of roller-coaster
and flume rides I wasn't too keen about going on this attraction but
I also knew I owed it to the noters as a Co-Mod to experience the at-
traction so I could give my 2 cents upon my return. I labored with this
thought as we prepared to leave for TMK.

Lo and behold we pulled into the CR parking lot and the Pappas fam-
ily was just heading down the ol' sidewalk to TMK. We all walked over
to Splash Mountain to see how the lines were. It was the first time
I saw people on the attraction. Some frightening faces and horrify-
ing screams turned into smiling faces and laughter as the logs came
under the briar patch.

"My God", I'm thinking to myself, "Do I really want to go on that?"
Jim had a big smile. "So whaddya say Mike shall we hit Splash Moun-
tain after we see Lilly's girls and the Belly-up to the Bar Boys?"

"Ehr..ah...sure Jim (Gulp!). Can hardly wait." Hoo boy. I couldn't fig-
ure this out...I'm thinking "Claude's back in New England and would
die to switch places with me and here I am not sure about going on an
attraction that all the noters have been waiting for with baited breath."

Well we see the show and, as if I didn't expect it, Lilly sat on Jim's
lap. I think his aura is spreading 'cause Deb Pappas ended up in the
middle of the floor matched up with some guy up front who was dragged
in his chair to see Debbie, his "betrothed."

It didn't seem fair. I think one of the Belly Up to the Bar Boys should
have sat on Deb's lap, after all.....Lilly sat on Jim's lap.

Roger Rabbit showed up too and gave out a surprise hat and shirt to
a lucky visitor.

Okay the show was over and I had to face the music. We walked over to
Splash Mountain and the water was still flowing. We handed our cam-
eras to Carol and off we went down into the gully..

Trying to describe this attraction is involved. I hope Jim will fill
in the spots I miss. First off the queuing area is huge. If you want
size I'd say take a football field and cut it in half and add three
trees the size of the Liberty Tree and plunk them down. Now snake peo-
ple around the trees. That's the queuing area. Later on in the trip I was
told by one castmember that the queuing area can handle a 3 hour line.
We waited 40 minutes to get on...my longest wait for my entire stay at The
World. If you can see the line from the bridge outside then you're looking
at a 2-3 hour wait.

Jim will be the first to point out that when given the option stay to
the left to get the full benefit of the AC as you go through the mine.

If you stay on the right the cool air will pass over your head. Claus-
trophobics may not like the narrow passages at a certain point in the
mine. Look for designs (rabbit and horse) on the wall.

Did I say I was a little concerned when I noticed no seatbeats? But
not to fear as 6 year old Gregory Pappas assured me everything was go-
ing to be fine. Well we had a log all to ourselves and we were off.

The scenery inside the attraction is well done. There is an area which
simulates a deep path into the forest. Get a gander at the trees and
the leaves...it's topnotch.

Jim Hill was right about Bre'r Rabbit's support wire. We could see it
as he jumped alongside our log. I also noticed poor placement of speak-
ers in relation to their characters. For instance, a character may be
standing on the right side of a stump but the speaker with his/her voice
is on the left side.

Well I don't remember how many drops there were...maybe three. If there
were three then here's how they went. The first one was close to the
one in Pirates but a bit longer. The second one is close to the one
at Canobie Lake....and I'm thinking "Oh my God that's the SMALL ONE!"
A couple of times we saw Carol taping us from below as we popped in
and out of the attraction. As you come out of the second drop you float
around the Briar Patch. I bravely waved at all the people, including
my camera-laden wife saying to myself, "Man this dream is so realis-
tic." Then I pinched myself and thought "Oh oh!"

We head back into the attraction and soon we begin our ascent and the
sides of the attraction take on a scary mode as evil eyes stare at us
and tell us to look for our "laughin' place."

As you get near the top of the drop you first see the top of the Cin-
derella Castle and nothing but air. Those brave enough to peek over
the front of the log soon fall back into their seat saying unmention-
able things like "Sttt...stteeeep.....lllllongggg." But not me baby.
Nosiree. I took one look as to where I was going and without even hes-
itating one second I closed my eyes like a pro. That didn't help because we
took off and I was airbone and yelling "EEEEEEYYYOOOWWWEEELLLLLLLL!!!!!!"

                 S P L A S H ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I opened my eyes. "ALRIGHT, WE MISSED THE BRIAR PATCH. PIECE A CAKE."
Meanwhile I'm reminding myself to check for "nicotine stains" first chance
once I get off the ride. Yes you feel like you're coming out of your seat
and yes you get wet. The wet part is no problem if you go during the warm months
but the Winter months may make for a cooler ride. Will Splash be closed
in the Winter months as is Typhoon Lagoon?

We got off the log and I'm pleased as punch to be alive and thinking
"Haw Haw...I rode Splash Mountain." As we passed people waiting in the
queue they are studying us to see our reactions. Being the rascal I
am I'm saying out loud to Mike and Holly, "Boy I'm glad we got a log
with seatbelts." I tell all the people waiting in line to "Make sure
you get one with seat belts and bring yer poncho....oh you forgot....well
your camera's insured...isn't it?"

"So did you enjoy the ride Mike?" Jim asked.

"Wanna go on it again?"

"Nah I've done it. You can go on. I'll try to tape you guys going down."
Phew, Jim bought it....I hoped.

"You sure?", Jim asked. "C'mon Mr. Scopa, let's do it again.", exclaimed
Greg.

"Thanks anyway. I'll stay here and keep Carol company."

So my kids went on again with the Pappas clan and I caught them on tape
as they plunged towards the Briar patch. Jim, I promise to send you
a copy as soon as I put that together with Hoop-Dee-Doo.

By the way, not only is Jim a very capable moderator but he is CRAZY.
The guy is waving his hat at the top of the drop so I won't miss them.
I'm thinking to myself, "Jim hold on for God's sake." Well almost the
whole log had their hands in the air as they went down the drop. Some
people were born to be daredevils I guess.

Jim and his family had a few things to do on this, their last night,
so we bid them farewell, thanked them for their company and I thanked
Jim for his organizing the Bash reservation and we went on our sep-
arate way.

I think Jim, Mike, and Kathy will agree with me that doing certain at-
tractions and/or shows down there with another family or two makes the
trip a little extra nice. Meet someone to enjoy a dinner show together
or something else and then separate and do your own thing. I don't think
I would have gone on Splash Mountain without Jim, Deb and the rest of
the Pappas clan urging me on. Having a crowd with you at Hoop-Dee-Doo
is priceless...unless you end up wearing a tu-tu....I'd sooner the loin
cloth.

Okay back to where I left off. Oh yeah, we said our goodbyes and de-
cided to head back to the CBR and get a good night's sleep as we planned
for a long day in EPCOT on Saturday.

When I got back to the room I had a voicemail message from Tom. He had
called from Port Richie to tell me about Ken's resigning from the Com-
pany and how the stock reacted. I left a message on Jim's phone telling
him of this info.

Mike and I had an urge for ice cream while Carol and Holly had an urge
for sleep so while they slipped into bed we slipped into the night and
headed over to OPR for a late night snack. We ended up having a cheese-
burger, a cookie, and a bowl of ice cream as we sat outside and watched
Illuminations before heading back to the room.


Saturday, July 18th

We enjoyed a breakfast of muffins and juice in the room before head-
ing out for EPCOT. Our plan was to do EC in a leisurely fashion since
we planned to stick around for Surprise in the Skies.

Our first stop was Canada. We saw the film and walked through the shops
before listening to the Maple Leaf Brass. We then walked though the
UK and saw some characters towards the end of their photo stint. There
was Goofy in kilts and Robin Hood, Little John, and King Lionheart.

As we got to France we ran into Mademoiselle Minnie and Bianca and got
some photos with them.

It was close to lunchtime so we ate at Au Petit Cafe. The meal was pretty
good. I had French Onion Soup, House Salad, Beff Burgandy, and French
Beer. Carol had an interesting meal. She ordered the salad designed
to serve as a meal and couldn't figure out why there was a "meatball"
in the center of the salad. She could not place the taste of the meat-
ball. She asked me to taste it. Once I recognized the taste and told
her she quickly handed the rest of it over to me. It was made out of....aw
heck I'm not telling.

My "straight A's in French" Holly was embarrased when I ordered my dessert
in French. Our waiter, Thierry, said I was very close to pronouncing
it correctly. Holly did not approve of my attempt...but she wasn't work-
ing towards a tip either.

How many people are ready to salivate? My dessert was Crepes and Peaches
with vanilla ice cream and raspberry sauce. It's low on the decadent
scale but man was it sweet.

The bill was pretty cheap for a World Showcase restaurant.

From there we made our way over to one of my favorite attractions in
WDW, The American Adventure. We got there just as the crowd was head-
ing upstairs to the theater. However our main purpose in coming into
the pavillion was to listen to the Voices of Liberty....the show it-
self was secondary.

I planted myself in the center of the rotunda. The singers marched out
and set up right in front of me and sang. I got great video. If I could
have my pick of any castmember job I would choose being one of the Voices
of Liberty hands down. Their singing is surely an unheralded treasure.
After their performance we went upstairs to enjoy Mark and Ben's show.
We enjoyed the show (I almost fell asleep...a la Len).

It was close to 2 P.M. (Omigod I'm in a park at 2 P.M.) so we took the
boat to Port of Entry to snare a spot to tape and watch Surprise in
the Skies. There was a Spanish film crew on board taping a show for
some overseas country.

When we got to Port of Entry we noticed a teenage girl who had fainted
on the dock. The castmember said, "Oh oh we have a fainter." We hur-
ried off to get out of the way. I secured a spot right in front of Port
Of Entry to watch Surprise in the Skies. It would be a perfect spot
to watch Illuminations too....if you want to camp out for 6 hours.

About 20 minutes or so before the show a group of people attired in
the same color, led by a flag bearer, approached and....well need I
say anything else? The hot sun and the long day went a long way to-
wards me telling my wife, "Well if these people think they can come
15-20 minutes before the show and push people aside they have another
thing coming. I was all set with a verbal tirade planned as soon as
one shove takes place." It never did and I never had to open my mouth or
watch out for spilling juice (get it Kathy?)

We watched and taped SITS and it was the most difficult thing I had
ever taped....kites, fireworks, balloons, planes, phew. If you stay
at the CBR stroll over to the Custom House around 2:30 and you'll be
able to catch a closeup of Mickey, Goofy, and every other character
flying those aircraft as they fly low en route to World Showcase.

It had been a long day in the park as we are usually in a pool at 3 P.M.
We were thirsty so we headed over to the Stargate Restaurant for a root
beer float. While in there we noticed some threatening clouds so we
headed back to the CBR and just as we went up the stairs to our room
the sky opened up.

Jim, remember that night in EC when we saw you in Norway? Hah! That
was a sprinkle compared to this monsoon. Remember, check to make sure
if I'm going to Epcot before you make any plans. When I go to EC it
pours.

It poured for almost the rest of the day. We did laundry during that
time so we made good use of our "downtime." We were pretty tired so
we decided to eat at OPR. Pizza and Pasta offers an Italian buffet.
There's pasta, Italian veggies, caciatore, meatballs, sausages, lasagna,
garlic bread, etc. all you want for about $7.

We went back to the room, did some laundry, watched the Disney chan-
nel, and had a good night's sleep. I think the rainstorm helped us veg
out a bit after being on the go most of the trip.


Sunday, July 19th

Wow already a week had gone by since the bash. I woke up from a deep
sleep thinking about the bash and was thirsty. I went over to get a
drink from the cooler and then jumped back into bed. It was 4 A.M.

Couldn't sleep...was wide awake.

I got out of bed, put on my running shoes and shorts and went for a
run around Barefoot Lake. It was great. Early in the morning, a pre-
dawn run, nice and quiet....one of my most memorable moments during
the trip. Well I ran about 5 miles and decided to stop off at the pool
for a dip before getting back into the room.

The pool water was at a perfect temperature. I had the pool to myself
and I was thinking to myself, "Ahhh, this is the life...this is what
I've been waiting for."

I was in the pool for a good 20 minutes when I decided I better head
back to the room. I got out of the pool and "Holy cow I was FREEZING!"

"Wait a minute...it's 75 degrees outside." I said to myself. I jumped
back in for another 20 minutes and then I braved the slight chill, ex-
ited the pool, and hustled back to the room...which also was cold be-
cause of the AC. I could have sworn the pool was heated.

I took a nice hot shower, woke up everyone else, and after showers and
BIR (Breakfast in the Room) we headed out to MGM. Ah yes I drove over
even though it's close. I just became tired of having the bus make the
rounds in the CBR before taking off for a park.

Now I figure I drove to MGM about 5 out of the 7 or 8 times we went
to that theme park and it seemed each time we went I ended up park-
ing in "Mystery" row 48, 49, or 50.

We got a rare photo opportunity on this sunny morning as we were able
to snare a phot of both Mickey and Minnie together with the kids in
front of the gas station. Roger Rabbit was there also.

We decided that we'd see VOTLM (Mermaid) for our early morning attrac-
tion jog and we were treated to a nowait for the attraction. This may
sound great to a lot of people but sometimes it's nice to relax in the
pre-show area and look around because there is obviously a lot of at-
tention put into the pre-show areas.

By the way, VOTLM is an attraction that I suggest taping but I would
also suggest that if you plan on taping the show then sit towards the
back of the theater.

We then did the animation tour and throughout the pre-show area you
see and hear B&TB cels and music. There are also drawings on "Alladin"
as the slow push for this animated feature was just beginning.

We then headed for Backstage Tours as we wanted to see Catastrophe Canyon
one more time but closer to the front of the tram. It seemed that we
had always been towards the rear of the tram but this time we were to-
wards the front and got the full effect.

After CC we headed back to Hollywood Blvd. to catch the Dinosaurs. We
got there in plenty of time and the Sinclair Family drove up to the
Chinese Theater, did their thing, and came back down Hollwood Bvd. Don't
worry if you can't get a good spot in front of the Chinese Theater.
You'll be able to see them and get good pictures as they go up and down
Hollywood Blvd.

Many of the Streetmosphere castmembers participate in this "happen-
ing" and play different roles. Some twenty minutes after the Sinclair
family goes we soon see our Streetmosphere regulars hitting the streets.

We thought about characters we hadn't seen or things we had wanted to
do but hadn't done yet. We were also hungry so we headed over to the
Studio Catering Co. to eat and maybe see Belle and/or the Beast.

We struck gold as the Beast was standing at the bottom of the West Wing
staircase. We got pictures but he could not use his gigantic maw to
write so no autographs. I asked the castmember if Belle was scheduled
to come out and he told me that she was scheduled to come out in about
15 minutes.

We were actually waiting for her when she arrived. She came without another
castmember by her side and she seemed a little apprehensive when the
crowd started gathering around. She was one of the two (I think there
were two) castmembers who played Belle in the stage show.

When we left the Soundstage Restaurant I mentioned to everyone that
there was an area we hadn't seen yet that I wanted to investigate. This
area was just across the way from Muppet-4D. It is a brick building
which houses props from movies. It's called The Studio Showcase. Inside
this building you will find almost every prop used in making "Honey I Blew
Up the Kid" including all the gigantic props used in the film. You will
also find props from movies such as "Rocketeer", "Father of the Bride",
"Star Wars", "Indiana Jones", and others. Plan on spending 30-45 minutes
inside this building because there is a lot to see. While I was trying to
tape I heard Carol call to me and when I looked up she and the kids were
heading towards Mama Melrose. "We just ate!", I thought. Then I saw Santa
Goofy, Mickey, and Minnie. More photo ops (we took close to 1000 pictures
during our vacation).

We went back to the prop building and finished looking around before
going back to Hollywood Blvd. to catch some Streetmosphere. The kids
did Star Tours and Muppet-4D and met us on Hollywood Blvd.

BTW like anything else castmembers make the difference if you're in
an attraction, at a restaurant (especially Prime Time), or watching
Streetmosphere. The ones who really get into their roles are most en-
joyable.

For the most part the castmembers doing Streetmosphere this partic-
ular day were good. Whenever possible we would interact with them to
initiate some amusing footage. Of course you have to be openminded too.
I had one moviestar "Kitty" come up to me in her leopard skin suit and
give me her famous closeup "smacker". Another moviestar cried on my
shoulder. "Sarge" made Mike do pushups, while others just carried on
conversations. Some of these castmembers had changed roles from 1990
and caught on quick when I said "Boy you've come a long way since..."

We left MGM in the early afternoon and went back to the CBR for a dip
and rest. While checking out some videos we labored over where to eat
supper. We hadn't tried the buffet at the Contemporary Cafe so we de-
cided to try it out that night even though we had planned to go to EP-
COT that evening.

Well gang put the Contemporary Buffet on your list as a MUST for din-
ner one night. If you love Prime Rib, Southern Baked Ham, and assorted
international dishes it's the place to go. You will also find soups,
salads, veggies, fruit, and all kinds of stuff at this buffet. Each
night has a theme; be it Italian, German, Oriental, or International
night so you'll have plenty of variety.

I'm not a Prime Rib person but I was told that if I gave my piece to
my server and told her how I wanted it cooked that she would take it
back and cook it the way I wanted it. I did...she did...and it was de-
licious.

There is a BIG PROBLEM with this buffet. It's the desserts. There are
too many of them and it's hard to decide which ones to try. Each dessert
is about the size of 3x5 brownie so you could try more than one. Of
course if you are a runner who burns up fat and calories every day like
me you can even go overboard and try ELEVEN like I did that night. That
feat ranks right up there with that "Bicycle Built for Two" episode.
But let's face it....desserts are desserts and they were making them
right on the spot. The chef told me on my first trip not to get too
filled up "otherwise you won't be able to taste my carrot cake com-
ing out soon." If you like desserts which feature pecans, carrot cake,
chocolate anything, apples, cookies (oatmeal, chocolate chip, peanut
butter), rice crispies squares, etc, etc. etc. than this is the place
for you.

It was pure decadence. The bill for the four of us was under $60 so
I think it is one of the best deals in the World.

After that feast we drove over to Epcot. Our purpose tonight was to
spend time in the Communicores, see Illuminations, visit Image Works,
and do a little shopping.

We did all of this and along the way we ran into a castmember who had
come down from Massachusetts to work at Disney. He was in the Commu-
nicore which featured the touch screen terminals you use to make videos.

Illuminations still doesn't really light my fire. I don't know why but
the show never really gives me the same thrill as "Sorcery..." or the
warm and fuzzy feeling of "Fantasy..."

After we picked up a shirt here and a hat there and some postcards (not
for mailing but for keeping) we took our time going back to the car
and drove back to the CBR. The next day was Sea World Day.


Monday, July 20th

Off to Sea World. Best deal as far as discounted admission is the Or-
lando Magic Card. Saw a few new things. They expanded Shark Encounter
to Terrors of The Deep. There is a Bermuda Triangle Simulation ride.
The kids went on it and I watched from the observation deck. They have
monitors so you can see what they see. The observation deck allows you
to watch the simulator shake, rattle, and roll.

We did a lot of other things in SW but, hey, this is a WDW trip re-
port.

We left Sea World late in the afternoon, stopped off at K-Mart to pick
up some more film, then Publix to replenish our muffin and drink sup-
ply, and headed back to the CBR. We stopped off at the 7-Eleven on I-
Drive for a slurpy.

We dropped off the groceries at the room and headed back out; desti-
nation: MGM. We parked at....you guessed it...Mystery 49.

When we got into the park Streetmosphere was in full swing from the
second story windows on Hollywood Blvd. It was wild and entertaining
as they conducted a "party" from the second floor of the Celebrity 5
& Dime.

We strolled over to the Sci-Fi Restaurant and looked over the menu.
It was pretty pricey and pretty much booked up so we said, "Another
time" and decided to try Mama Melrose.

There are several reasons not to do "fast food" at The World. One is
the value. You get more for your money in a sit-down restaurant as far
as quality of the food and the service. Sure it will cost you more,
but you'll reap in dividends. Also, certain tour groups are not among
the clientele one would expect to see in a sit down restaurant (gee
maybe that should be my number one reason). Atmosphere is also impor-
tant to me....to talk, to plan, to do a number of things...sit down
restaurants are much quieter than yer basic FF places.

If you're pressed for time and money an argument can be made to do more
FF than SD...especially in the off season. With long operating hours
and warm temps the Summer months pretty much convince me to go with
the SD restaurants.

Okay, enough commentary. On the way to Mama Melrose's Ristorante we
ran into Mickey, Minnie, and Goofy once more in their Xmas garb. It
seemed as if we ran into Mickey about 2 dozen times during our trip.

Mama's is typical Italian. The restaurant walls are draped with al-
bum jackets from such paisans as Sinatra, Laine, Martin, Lanza, Mar-
tino, and for you Italian purists, Jerry Vale. There are huge 8x8's
above from which grapevines and lights are strung. Of course there is
the traditional pink flamingo or two to add to the authenticity of the
cuisine.

I don't recall what I had for dinner but I do recall enjoying my meal.
My wife liked the pasta dish she had ordered.

Unfortunately we spent so much time there we were too late for the last
Beauty and the Beast stage show for that night. We were disappointed
and made it a point to do MGM the next night and see the show.

Carol and I decided to make the best of things and to establish our
spot for "Sorcery...". We sent the kids off to Star Tours and Muppet-
4D while we plunked ourselves directly in front of The Chinese The-
ater and watched and waited. We sat down at the edge of the red bricks
directly in the middle of the theater. People were walking by and look-
ing at us as if we had three heads. After some 35 minutes or so the
kids showed up and sat down next to us and then the crowd began to build.
Next thing you know the rope is set up in front of us and we are in
the front row. It was worth the wait.

We saw that Spanish film crew come over and "film" people "watching"
the fireworks. What they did is they filmed people going "Ohhh and Ahhh"
while they flashed different color strobe lights and crackled some pa-
per. They spent about 15 minutes doing this before going back into hid-
ing.

We struck up a conversation with two castmembers. Their names were Christy
and Craig. During the conversation Christy kept referring to Craig as
"Chip". The obvious question led us to find out that one of Craig's
duties as a castmember is to play "Chip" at that theme park. I'm talk-
ing Chip the chipmunk, not Chip the tea cup.

We talked about a lot of things...the off again, on again decisions
regarding Sunset Boulevard, Fantasmic, Splash Mountain, Beauty and the
Beast, Boardwalk, etc. I have most of our conversations on tape and
will check to see if there's any info I can pass along here. We got
along so well that Christy wanted to write to us so we gave her our
address. We haven't heard from her yet so we'll see. We should have
gotten her address.

Somethings they told us were:

 - Craig saying he rode Splash Mountain 87 times in 6 days during trial
   runs in the Spring.

 - They hate working The Indy Show because people aren't too happy when
   told they can't sit on the stairs.

 - Sunset Blvd. is on all the castmember's minds as they know they will
   be asked to critique the attractions first.

 - Kristy's favorite thing to do is to watch "Fantasy..." from the top of
   the Contemporary.

 - Castmembers like Prime Time, Tony's, and both Mexican restaurants as
   their favorite places to eat.

 - They hate the Swan and Dolphin hotels. Castmembers were pretty upset
   once they realized you could see the hotels from inside EPCOT.

 - Russian and Scandanavian pavillions have been planned for EPCOT.

 - Minnie's Menehune Breakfast at the Papeete Bay Verandah (Poly) has a
   lot of characters.

 - For some reason the characters in EPCOT are on schedule more often for
   photos and autographs than those inm the other two parks.

 - Fireworks are usually scheduled at odd times so people will remember.

 - Castmembers like visiting the parks on off days because they can relax.

Here are some interesting things Craig told me. The Sorcerer's Appren-
tice balloon that pops up at the end of "Sorcery..." has it's finger
ignited manually by someone wearing a hard hat and an asbestos suit.
The man also has some type of extinguisher in case Mickey's finger gets
out of hand.

Here's another tidbit. When "Sorcery..." was first shown in MGM Mickey's
finger was pointing towards the front of the park as if he was say-
ing, "Go home! It's over!" It was decided that Mickey should not be
"chasing" people out the gate and they moved his arm to where it is
today.

After the fireworks Craig came over to me and told me how he depised
the "guest chasers" as he calls them. He was referring to the large
vacuum cleaners that come out of nowhere after the show and start scoop-
ing up all the debris in the street. He feels that it is rude for these
things to be going at that time and that another 30 minutes of wait-
ing would be better. He suggested that we complain to Guest Relations.

We bade our new friends goodbye and left the park. The pillow felt good
that night for some reason. The next day would be Typhoon Lagoon Day.


Tuesday, July 21, 1992

We got to Typhoon Lagoon relatively early and I made my way over to
Typhoon Tilly's where there were some available lockers. It's prob-
ably worth it to use the more expensive lockers for more flexibility.

We found a spot on the rocks to put our stuff and we headed to The Wave
Pool. Unless you're into football and roller derby try to stay in a
sparsely crowded patch of water when the big waves hit...'cause you
can get knocked into someone...in my case the other person usually loses
but you never know.

When the big waves stopped Mike wanted to do Shark Reef so we made our
way over there and like a trooper he snorkled with the sharks. Did a
pretty good job for a first-timer.

We then enjoyed Carol's favorite part of Typhoon Lagoon, "Castaway Creek."
I felt like exercising the ol' knee so I opted to go sans tube and work
on my knee by walking and floating around Castaway. What an experi-
ence walking through air after "walking" around that canal. We did three
laps around CC. Afterwards Carol and Mike went off to do Shark
Reef and Holly and I went back to The Wave Pool.

It was getting towards the afternoon so we decided to pick up some sou-
venirs at Singapore Sal's. I met everyone there after going back to
the locker to collect what I had put in there (pouch, etc.). We pur-
chased a few shirts and I tried to get a 10% discount with my Gold MKC
card. I almost pulled it off but got a very polite, "We're sorry sir!"
Ya can't blame a Mod for trying.

It looked like a storm might be brewing so we decided to leave TL. We
got back to the CBR, showered, got dressed, and decided to eat at OPR.
We hadn't eaten since Breakfast (in the room). I forget what we all
had...but I remember going back for the Italian Buffet. It was close
to 6:30 before we took off for MGM.

On this night we were determined to see Beauty and the Beast. We headed
off to MGM and did some shopping along Hollywood Blvd. While near the
Monster Sound Show we heard the PA system announce that the 7:30 B&TB
would be an abbreviated version due to the conditions of the stage.
It had rained and the stage was not completely safe for all the pro-
duction numbers. We were hoping that the later show would not be ab-
breviated.

After looking around for awhile we made our way over to Indy's Out-
post to check out the souvenirs. Holly and Mike took off to do Star
Tours and Muppets. Carol went over to check out how far along the B&TB
was while I taped some Streetmosphere and other things. When I got to
TOTS (Theater of the Stars) Carol was standing near a rope next to a
turnstile.

"What's this?" I asked.

"Guess who's first in line for the 8:45 show?" she said with a big smile.
I joined her in line (the kids saw us and told us they'd meet us in
line after they looked through the shops). It's great to see people
ask where the line is and castmembers would point down Hollywood Blvd.
The line went almost down to the store that sold all the candy.

All of a sudden we hear, "Hi!!!!! You're back!!!" It was Christy. "Wow
you said you'd be back tonight and you are!" She was scheduled to work
TOTS that evening.

"You guys realize you're gonna have GREAT SEATS?????" Christy and the
other castmembers told us that there are special effects which are
included only in the late show. Things like fog and special pyrotech-
nics don't show up as well in the daylight so they don't use them as
much. We were hoping the full show would be run. Holly and Mike got
there just in time and we sprinted to the first row center and enjoyed
unobstructed view of the show. If you really want to get good seats
for this show you sometimes have to plan in advance.

The show is great at night and should be around for a long time. For those
interested in taping the show, the bleachers should provide you with
a good angle but if you're like me you want to get as close to the stage
as possible.

Being at TL most of the day took some of our energy away so we left
MGM before "Sorcery..." and watched it from the parking lot. The fire-
works appear much higher in the sky from that vantage point then they
appear while watching them from inside the park.

A quick zip back to the CBR and it was (yawn) nighty night time. I could
feel the sunburn on my back.


Wednesday, July 22nd, Universal Studios Day

We aren't too crazy about Universal Studios in Florida. There's some-
thing missing when you walk into that theme park. Maybe it's because
there is no character foundation (Mickey, Minnie, etc.), or no child-
hood memories (Mickey Mouse Club, etc.) that conjure up good feelings.
All I know is that we really have a tough time "warming up" to Uni-
versal Studios. We went to US to break up the vacation from every day
being a Disney day and because we had free tickets.

I won't spend a lot of time talking about Universal. We did go right
onto Back to the Future and it does blow Star Tours out of the water.
We did a few other attractions, had lunch, bought the kids some shirts
at Hard Rock Cafe, and left the park. One little sidenote, when we got
to the counter at Hard Rock Cafe the girl behind the counter said,
"Good....finally someone who speaks English." Read between the lines folks.

Universal just doesn't do anything for me. I suggest that anyone vis-
iting Universal consider a 2 day pass if you want to experience all
the attractions. Unlike a Disney theme park, there aren't enough things
to offset the crowds and the crowds are reaching peak by mid-day.

We left Universal and headed over to EPCOT. One of the more enjoyable
and less crowded attractions is The Land Pavillion. We stopped in for
a lemonade and then took in Kitchen Kabaret. From there we went to the
Wonders of Life Pavillion to see Cranium Command...something I had never
seen before. I enjoyed the pre-show and the main show. I was a bit per-
turbed because the castmember running the show informed me that video-
taping was not allowed. Being a good doo-bee I put down my camera.

After CC we checked out Sensory Funhouse and other areas in the pavillion. We
sort of separated into pairs with the kids going one way and Carol and
I another way. Then Carol went off to check some stuff out and I checked
that crazy perspective house.

About 20 minutes had gone by when Mike came up to me looking a bit up-
set. Apparently he was pushed aside by a guest who hails from a cer-
tain South American country. Holly was also pushed. This all happened
on the stairway near "The Making of Me." Mike described the persons
who had pushed them aside (to look in some window or something like
that). They were older boys (15 or 16). Mike described them to me and
I decided not to get upset but to make a mental note of the color of
their shirt and size and just be on the lookout for them.

Sure enough they were easy to spot. They were in the Goofy About Sports
area where you can purchase basketballs and other sporting goods. They
were doing things with the merchandise (bouncing and kicking) that had
the castmembers a bit nervous. These boys were your basic smart aleck
teenage boys...that 5% of that age group that gives the other 95% a
bad reputation. I just watched them fool around and was thankful that
I didn't have to deal with them.

I strolled back to where the rest of the family was hanging around and
described what I had saw. "Yep", said Holly and Mike, "That sure sounds
like them."

As we headed out of the pavillion we passed them and I said to Mike
in a loud voice, "Are THOSE the guys?!?!" and pointed to them. A few
of them looked at me and I gave them quite a look. They seemed puz-
zled with my look but also kept their distance.

We spent some time at the Energy Exchange and Communicore West. then
we went over to Imagination. Holly and Carol went into Imagination while
Mike and I went upstairs to the Image Works. I loved directing the music.

When we all met at the doorway to the pavillion we all yawned at the
same time. We decided to leave the park. We were pretty pooped as we
had not taken a break on this day. The next day was an early TMK day
(the kids were thinking about Splash Mountain) so we hit the sack as
soon as we got back to the room.


Thursday, July 23rd

We were up early and in no time were ready to head out for TMK. We ar-
rived bright and early and headed over to FantasyLand. Carol and I headed
over to Peter Pan while the kids took a gamble and tried to get a head
start on Splash Mountain. While in line for Peter Pan I wondered why
I was getting so many stares. I then realized I had my Euro-Disney hat
on, my HDD shirt on (Mickeys in different colors in different athletic
poses) and my Mickey watch. Talk about a Disneyholic. Plus I had Holly's
Disney University hat clipped on to my pouch belt. As we approached
the beginning of the ride we saw the kids.

Like the rest of TMK, Splash Mountain would not open until 9:00 so the kids
opted for Peter Pan too. Those of you heading for TMK in the morning with
small children should take note that Dumbo and Peter Pan fill up real fast
so plan to make a beeline for one of those two attractions first thing in
the morning.

After Peter Pan we went over to the edge of FantasyLand to wait for
the rope to drop. The kids sped off to Splash Mountain while Carol and
I decided to visit 999 ghosts. The graveyard scene always reminds me
of Ruth's personal_name. I wonder why.

We went over to Splash Mountain and eventually found the kids. They
had gone on a few times...a loooong 10 minute wait. It would have been
shorter except that BTMRR was down due to technical difficulties. Of
course the rumors around the park was that SM opened so that BTMRR could
get some work done on it. BTMRR never opened that day.

What to do, what to do. Mike and I took off for the Shootin' Gallery
while the ladies went off to do some shopping. We agreed to meet at
the Caribbean Plaza in 30 minutes.

When we met at the Plaza the kids went into "Pirates..." while Carol
and I waited for J.P. and the All-Star Steel Drum Band. They came out
on time and did their thing. We had missed them on our '90 trip and
really enjoyed listening to them.

Just as this fine musical interlude ended the kids returned from "Pi-
rates..." and we decided to head to TomorrowLand to see the charac-
ter stage show...I think it was called "Rap 'n' Roll." On the way three
people in our party decided to take the Skyway from FantasyLand to
TomorrowLand. I decided to walk. I handed the camera to Carol off I went.

As they approached TomorrowLand they spotted me standing on top of a
bench and waving my arms....Carol got me on tape.

We headed over to the Tomorrowland Theater and had pretty good seats
for this show. It was a Rock 'n' Roll type of show with Mickey, Min-
nie, Goofy, Pluto, Donald, Chip and Dale providing the entertainment.
During the first ten minutes of the show Mickey sort of faded away and
disappeared and about five minutes later Roger Rabbit appeared and....you
guessed it...it was time for a 20th Anniversary Surprise.

One of the castmembers, serving as an usherette, brought a four year
old girl up to the stage. As the little girl approached the stairs she
was helped up the last few steps by Chip.

Now here's where something happened that I didn't notice while watch-
ing the show but Carol noticed and mentioned to me later that day. While
watching the video afterwards this is what I saw.

I noticed all the characters were on the left side of the stage while
Chip helped the little girl up the stairs to the stage level. When the
little girl got to the stage Chip bent over and placed his head close
to the girl's face. I then saw the little girl nod as if she was an-
swering a question or nodding in a manner that indicated she under-
stood something.

Did Chip SAY something to her....did Chip TALK? Whatever, it's a rar-
ity that I caught on tape.

The girl got her 20th Anniversay surprise gifts and the show contin-
ued with Roger Rabbit exiting and Mickey appearing five minutes later.
Give that castmember a hand.

After the show we made our way over to Mickey's Starland to catch the
train to the front of the park. We left the Park and drove to the Vil-
lage Marketplace. On the way were saw FULL signs outside of Typhoon
Lagoon and directions to River Country.

At the Village Marketplace we had photos taken of the kids in front
of Cinderella Castle. This was taken at "You and Me Kid"

We had lunch at Minnie Mia's Italian Eatery. This small dining estab-
lishment has pretty good food for the money. It's sort of a buffete-
ria. It's a great place for a light, inexpensive lunch. We liked it
because we just wanted a light lunch since we were looking forward to
going back to that Contemporary Cafe buffet that evening.

After lunch we did some souvenir shopping in the Character Shop. Some
of the 20th Anniversary merchandise was being marked down.

After picking up a few items we headed over to Pleasure Island. We checked
out Jessica's and then saw D-Zerts. If you are a fudge or chocolate
freak do not, I repeat, DO NOT go near this place. Corinne are you read-
ing this? We showed great restraint and had just a wee bit of a treat.
I won't go into what they have at D-Zerts but if you like cookies, brown-
ies, cakes, pies, chocolate, all kinds of candy, or frozen yogurt...you'll
love this place. I had something called a Pecan Praline cookie.

We left D-Zerts and went over to Superstars Studio where Mike and I
made a rap video. He did the singing while I played the drums wear-
ing a Garth wig. Mike sang and danced to a Kris Kross song called "Jump."
Mike was dressed in 20th Anniversary boxer shorts, a 20th Anniversary
tank top, and his everpresent Miami Hurricanes baseball hat.

We spent a couple of hours at the Marketplace and Pleasure Island be-
fore leaving for the Contemporary Cafe and that great buffet. When we
got to the Contemporary Cafe the Maitre-D said, "Hey guys you wanna
see my Mickey watch?"

Well I got mine ready to show him and as I brought mine up he brought
his up and I saw a Mickey head and a digital watch showing the time.

"Big deal" I said to myself...until I saw Mickey's mouth move and TELL
ME THE TIME!!!.

Mickey said, "Gosh, it's 5:48 P.M., ha-ha!"

"I gotta get one of these!" I said. "We sell them at our gift shop!"
he said with a sparkling smile knowing he helped make a sale.

"Guess where we're going after dinner?" I said.

That night was International Night at the buffet....outstanding. Af-
ter the buffet I bought my watch and we walked to TMK. Carol wanted
to spend some time browsing through the stores on Main Street U.S.A.,
Holly wanted to see the Tiki Birds, Mike had a pocketfull of pennies
and nickels he wanted to make use of at the Penny Arcade, and I wanted
to get a top viewing spot to finally videotape Spectromagic. I also
wanted to tape "Fantasy..." from the train station.

I told everyone where I would be looking to secure a good taping spot
and we agreed to meet back in the Town Square at 8:30. If we couldn't
find each other at that time we would meet on the steps of The Walt
Disney Story once the lights came on after the parade.

Carol and Holly went shopping and Mike went arcading. The train sta-
tion was already filled with videocameras on tripods from people camped
out since 6:30. It was 7:15 and I planted myself below the train sta-
tion and sat up against a light pole. I was a little to the left of
the flag pole and facing the car barn. By sitting here I could tape
the floats coming towards me and then get good closeup footage as they
passed, not to mention good audio.

I settled down next to the pole and watched the crowd for awhile. I
decided to check my battery and video tape well before the parade to
make sure I was well prepared to tape. After switching batteries (al-
ways have a spare ready) and tapes (wanted to start a fresh tape) I
pulled out my little note pad and jotted down some notes for this trip
report.

It was then that I caught a large area of yellow coming around the flag
pole.

It was then that I saw the words "Unesul World" printed on the shirts.

It was then that I realized I was sitting across about 50, as David
Jette would call 'em, "shirts".

Well I paid them little attention and went right on jotting down notes.
Pretty soon a trio of boys took one of those 20th Anniversary Mickey
balloons and started playing with it. They formed a triangle and "passed"
the balloon to one another by kicking the little Mickey head holder
at the bottom of the string. This is quite similar to a soccer drill
with three players passing the ball to each other clockwise and then
counterclockwise.

It looked harmless at first so I continued on with my transcribing while
glancing up every now and then to check on them.

Upon one glance I notice this trio getting close to some people about
50 feet to my left. "They'll stop and move back to the center of the
street" I'm thinking. Silly me.

They got real close to the curb where a woman and her daughter were
sitting. The balloon floated perilously near the woman and instead of
the boys grabbing the balloon and moving away from the woman one of
them tried to "save" the ballon by kicking the little Mickey head. He
missed Mickey and came within several inches of the woman's head. She
gave him a funny smile and he grabbed the balloon and moved more to-
wards the middle of the street. After that everyone was carefully watch-
ing these three guys.

Just then a flashback occurred. I remembered what had happened at the
WOL pavillion the night before, I had remembered what had happened at
Illuminations back in 1990. At that point I made a pact with myself
to be proactive in dealing with these people and not let them do me
in before I got a chance to "advise" them of their chances of surviv-
ing a confrontation with me. I would not let them bother me or my fam-
ily for the rest of the trip.

I continued to jot down some notes, always keeping one eye on the three
stooges. Then I noticed them starting to come towards me. When they
got within 20 feet I put my notepad away, held my videocamera very tightly,
and glued my eyes to them.

They passed me but were about 15 feet away. They moved about 20 feet
to the right before starting to sway near me. It soon became 15 feet
and they were getting closer to the curb. People are watching and wait-
ing. Now it's 10 feet from me and I shift my camera to my left hand
to free up my right hand.

These guys are having a grand time for themselves, oblivious to the
safety of the crowd. I started to look for a castmember but they were
all near the car barn and I wasn't about to give up my spot. I remained
seated and thought about what my options were as these bozos began to
get closer.

The balloon starts drifting towards me and I waited...waited....6 feet...5
feet...4, 3, 2. I grabbed the balloon with one hand and purposely said
nothing for 5 seconds while giving them a look that would stop a charg-
ing Rhino. I felt eyes watching me....not just 50 pairs of eyes in yel-
low shirts but eyes to the left of me....and eyes to the right of me.

I cleared my throat, brought my voice down an octave and said, "You
take this ballon and get far away from me and these people. DO YOU UN-
DERSTAND ME?" I threw the balloon at them.

Well I hope they were wearing Pampers or Huggies or something along
that line 'cause the look that came on their faces when I bellowed out
those words made me think they had an "accident." The look they gave
me was one out of surprise, then fear, and they moved way down towards
the right about 100 feet away before stopping 5 minutes later. Awwww....I
ruined their fun.

Everyone was looking at me and I received some nods of approval as if
to say, "Right on!" or "It's about time!" or "Good for you!"

Of course I got other looks which could have been interpreted as "Lighten
up, they're only kids!" or "Man I'm not getting in your way."

Of course all the visitors in the yellow Unesul World shirts were shocked.
They all stopped and stared at me. I first thought about smiling and
giving them all a big wave...maybe even throw them a kiss. Nope...not
tonight. I just glared at them.

I remembered reading in this conference about an incident involving
a Brazillian tour group in "Pirates..." and how problems led to WDW
security getting involved. Recalling that I decided to make these peo-
ple sweat and I pulled out my note pad and starting writing what had
happened. Every once in a while I would glance up at the string of yel-
low shirts and then hurredly write down something. I wonder if they
thought I was recording the incident in order to complain at Guest Re-
lations.....hope so. I didn't have a problem the rest of the night.

I was sitting in a true international spot. Across from me were my friends
from Brazil, to my right were French-speaking visitors, and sharing
the light pole with me was a German speaking couple. I had my own Mini-
United Nations.

The parade started and I got great footage. Tchernobog (the Dark God
from Fantasia) did not open his wings in front of me but instead to
the side of me. The music from Spectromagic is truly grand...it flour-
ishes. Every trip to WDW has a trademark and this trip's trademark is
the theme song from Spectromagic.

After the parade I met the rest of the family at The Walt Disney Story.
They wanted to go to Tomorrowland to look for a Space Mountain shirt.
I stayed to record "Fantasy..." from Main Street. I really wanted to
tape the fireworks from the train station but it was still crowded up
there.

I walked up Main Street U.S.A. until I came across the first ballon
vendor standing smack in the middle of the street. I recalled read-
ing something about these vendors and how they are supposed to "fade
into the background" during certain attractions. I took a gamble and
stood behind this vendor who was between me and the castle.

When the strobes started the vendors dashed off to the side and I had
a great view of the castle. I taped 'Fantasy..." from halfway down Main
Street. I got the entire castle in the footage. As soon as "Fantasy..."
ended the balloon vendors came back.

I strolled back and sat on the steps to the Disneyana Collectibles build-
ing waiting for Carol and the kids. We walked back to the CR parking
lot and drove back to the CBR. While driving back it suddenly hit me
that I had spent almost four hours in TMK and had gone no further than
halfway up Main Street.

Nighty night.


Friday, July 24th.

This was to be our last full day in Orlando. We decided to start the
day in MGM so we drove over and parked in........Mystery of course.

We did TGMR and then took in some Streetmosphere and Dinosuars. Carol
and I did some souvenir shopping while the kids went for one more view-
ing of Muppet-4D.

We picked up some decent shirts for $7 (that's no typo) in one of the
shops on Hollywood Blvd.

We enjoyed a lot of Streetmosphere before bidding goodbye to MGM. We
decided to have lunch at the Sizzler Steak House on International Drive.
We left MGM at 12:30 P.M.

I enjoyed the meal at The Sizzler. As we were finishing our dessert
a bus pulled up into the parking lot. The first person out of the bus
had a flag and...you guessed it. We all said, "Oh no!" At least we were
almost finished. I noticed something and said to my family, "Watch this!"

As "my people" came into the restaurant I continued to enjoy my ice
cream until a certain group walked by. At this point I pulled up my
head and stared right into the faces of my buddies from the night be-
fore.

It did my heart good to see them flinch when they saw me, almost knock-
ing over a table.

Carol and kids said "Ohhhh!" when I explained to them why I had got-
ten a reaction. "Now that was as good as the dessert," I said.

We decided to give the kids some pool time and do some laundry so we
went back to the CBR and did our thing. We also did some pre-packing
while waiting for the laundry to go through its cycle.

Once the laundry was done we started off for our final trip to TMK. While
walking from the CR parking lot to TMK we noticed some people being
turned away from the walkway because they did not have resort ID's.
Maybe there is a need to get this info out to people by putting a large
sign at the area where you cross over from the parking lot.

We took the train to Frontierland where Carol got excited about get-
ting me a Splash Mountain shirt. They had just come in. On the front
was a picture of some characters riding down a log and on the back was
written:

H20 plus 45 degree angle...

   plus Gravity...

       plus 40 MPH...

         plus a 5-story plunge...

           plus some unsuspecting,

             helpless, "too late to

               get out now passengers

                 EQUALS....

and you turn around and it says "Splash Mountain" and has some critters
going down in a log.

We walked around and Holly wanted to do the Tiki birds (well we all
did for that matter) and we went into the pre-show area. During the
pre-show we noticed WDW security escorting three teenagers out of the
attraction. Apparently, they had tried to sneak into the attraction
by climbing over some fence....strange. They used English as a sec-
ondary language so I don't need to mention that they all wore the same
color shirt do I?

We headed back to Frontierland and walked right in to Country Bear Jam-
boree. It was once again enjoyable to watch the original show. After
the show I had a thirst for Dole Whip. As we headed towards Aloha Isle
the crowd was lining the streets for the 9 P.M. Spectromagic parade.

We enjoyed our traditional last night Dole Whip...it just didn't taste
as good as the one I had enjoyed two weeks ago. I think in the wee cor-
ners of my mind the realization was setting in...the Sun was setting
on vacation '92.

After we finished the Dole Whip we walked over to The Jungle Cruise.
I tried to figure out the answer to Jackie Kuscher's trivia question
but I didn't have time because, and you guys won't believe this, some
castmembers were holding Congo Connie, one of the boats, for us. That's
right...NO LINE AT THE JUNGLE CRUISE!

Why is this? Well, two reasons. First, everyone was lining up for the
parade and secondly, many people think the Jungle Cruise is closed at
night. So heed this advice and do the "Cruise" during the parade.

We left the cruise and walked over to Pirates. Carol and Mike were ahead
of us as we walked in and at one point Carol looked back and said, "Are
we going the right way?" There was NOBODY in the attraction...no crowd
to queue up to....and a castmember was waiting for us at the dock. We
had the whole boat and attraction TO OURSELVES.

When we came out of Pirates I remarked to everyone that we had done
three attractions (CBJ, JC, and POTC) in close to 45 minutes. I had a
feeling Walter Elias was with us this evening.

We headed towards FantasyLand to look for a certain hat Mike had seen
earlier in the week. Along the way we had to stop in that area just
below the Mile Long Bar. The parade was going by and since I had but
5 minutes to go on the tape in my camera I filmed away. I used Splash
Mountain as a backdrop to the parade. It came out pretty good.

We headed for the Mad Hatter Shop. Mike saw the hat he wanted. It was
a beige or tan colored explorer's hat with a Mickey face on the front.
It looked like the type of hat Gilligan or a PGA golfer would wear.
Looked so good I almost got one. They did not have one in his size but
they called the Chapeau in Town Square and saved one for us.

We headed out but stopped at the base of the Castle 'cause Tink was
about to fly. She was late by ten minutes and that was a big ten min-
utes for us. Finally she flew and the fireworks began. We watched the
fireworks from beneath the castle.

I noticed a 10-year old boy with obviously sensitive ears running to
his mother while holding his ears and screaming. He looked in pain.
After the fireworks the plan was for Mike and I to dash to The Cha-
peau for his hat and meet Carol and Holly at The Plaza Restaurant. Mike
and I had plans to repeat our performance of a few weeks back with a
Bicycle Built for Two.

We took shortcuts through the stores and made it to the Chapeau in less
than 5 minutes. We got the hat (last one in the park) and headed back
to the Plaza. We were surprised to find Carol and Holly outside. The
Restaurant had closed just as the fireworks had begun. Tink had done
us in.

We were hungry so we went to Tony's. It was a letdown not to eat at
The Plaza but we had enjoyed Tony's before. However...we were puzzled
at the menu...it was maybe 25% of what is offerred during lunch. We
were looking for certain entrees and they weren't there. We figured
we best eat 'cause it was almost 11 P.M. The meal was okay but noth-
ing like the lunch we had enjoyed a week earlier.

While we ate we watched Spectro go by the square. I went outside to
catch Tchernobog spreading his wings directly in front of me. The Square
is a definite viewing place for the parade. It ranks up there with Lib-
erty Square.

As I was filming, realization was setting in. "Take it all in Mike"
a small voice was saying. Izzat you Walt?

We finished our meal and headed for the exit. Deja Vu as we entered
under the train station. I turned for my last glance at the square and
the beginnings of Main Street U.S.A....standing on the same spot that
had offerred me my first glimpse of this amazing place some 17 years
earlier.

Once more I turned to the Walt Disney Story as I had done just two years
earlier. However this time I winked and said, "See you next time Walt."

Just before we went through the turnstiles for the final time I turned
and panned the candles which lined the front of The Magic Kingdom. As
I finished panning I zoomed in on the middle and slowly faded out. "So
long MK" I thought, "Thanks for the memories...they haven't ended...they're
just on hold for a couple of years."

The Magic Kingdom is truly my favorite park. Amidst the underground
tunnels, forced perspective buildings, and hidden speakers are sights,
sounds, and memories which were seeded well before a middle-aged animator
announced plans for an East Coast theme park....before the first hole was
dug, before the first audioanimatron was programmed.

The Magic Kingdom remains the most popular of the theme parks and has
withstood the tests of time.

We took our last walk down the sidewalk to the CR parking lot. "Wow
it's here and gone" I'm thinking. I didn't want the night to end.

We drove back to the CBR and I told everyone I was going to try and
finish the tape in the camera before turning in.

I left the room and took one last walk around Barefoot Lake. I taped
from the Barefoot Bay Bike Works and Boat Yard (lighthouse) and panned
around the resort....it was well after Midnight.

I taped the pool at Old Port Royale. Someone who was walking by waited
until I had finished panning the pool before walking by.

"Thanks", I said, "Two weeks here and I finally get around to taping
the place...at Midnight!"

"Two weeks!", he exclaimed, "That's outrageous!"

I thought to myself, "It's also shorter than you think!"

I walked through Old Port Royale. All the counters were shut down and
just the Hideaway Lounge was open. I taped and taped.

I headed out the door and back towards Martinique. I went over to the
pool area and took some footage of the pool. I thought the tape would
run out at any time so I kept it rolling as I walked back to the room.
It was close to 1 A.M. As I walked into the room I saw (and the cam-
era saw) a reflection in the mirror of Mike on the bed, half undressed
(had just his shorts on) completely wiped out and asleep....then the
tape ended.

I glanced at everyone sleeping and very quietly put the camera away,
refreshed myself with a juice from the cooler, and then turned in.


Saturday, July 25th

This was checkout day. I got up, showered, shaved, and started bring-
ing stuff out to the van. During one of my trips I noticed a house-
keeper and I wanted to ask her if her name was "Joyce" who had been
playing games with the kids but I never got around to asking her.

There was a knock on our door during one of my trips to the van. Carol
answered it and it was that housekeeper. "Hi!" Carol said, "Would you
be Joyce?"

"Yes, I'm Joyce." We thanked her for taking good care of our room and
playing hide and seek with the animals. I pulled her aside and gave
her a tip saying, "Joyce this is for keeping the magic going for my
kids even after they had left the parks." She thanked me and said that
she was a bit upset because some of her rooms were a little messy be-
cause the "floaters" (people who fill in for regular housekeepers) were
a bit lax. The supervisors really come down harder on the regular house-
keepers than the floaters.

She mentioned that she was seriously thinking about leaving Florida
and moving to Iowa where she has a chance to work in a "computer fac-
tory" and make twice what she's making in Orlando.

She was glad we had a good time and wished us well on our trip home.
We all started making trips to the van and upon one return to the room
I had noticed a message on the phone. I had a message to call the front
desk. They wanted to know if I was checking out that day. That had never
happened before. Maybe due to all my dealings with them before I had
arrived they felt that I may want to stay. Well I did but I had to get
home and get the truck inspected and registered and all that jazz.

We told the kids to meet us at Old Port Royale while we checked out.

After checking out we met the kids at OPR and had breakfast. After break-
fast we went into the Calypso Trading Post shop for some last minute
shopping. I grabbed a 20th Anniversary hat for $9.99.

We said our goodbyes to the CBR and jumped on Route 4 for our trek home.
My goal was to drive to SOB and stay overnight there. We left Orlando
at Noon. When we got to South of the Border about 8 hours later we were
dissapointed to find out they were full. I drove into Lumberton, North
Carolina and we found a decent place to stay. We ate at a steak house
and then we went to bed early 'cause we intended to get up early.


Sunday, July 26th

This was a pretty lousy day to travel. The Sun disappeared about the
time we reached Maryland. By the time I had hit N.J and N.Y. the rain
had started and it was really coming down. I could drive no further
than Danbury, Conn. Again a quick supper and an early turn in.


Monday, July 27th

Got up about 3 A.M. and got everybody out and on the road by 4. Gassed
up and pulled into N.H. about 7:30. Had breakfast and visited all the
grandparents and my sister before finally getting home around 3 in the
afternoon.

Talk about Post Disney Blues. I came home to a busted Water Heater and
my truck needing new brakes. Maybe I should have stayed a few more days.

This trip has resulted in me thinking about the following guidelines:

   o  A WDW trip for both first timers and veterans should be a minimum
      of two weeks. There's just so much to do and see.

   o  Annual Passports really are the way to go if you go for two weeks.

   o  Pay for your trip in advance if you can. If you make your plans far
      enough in advance you can send payments in before you get there.
      It's an option that I might go for next time. By the way, you can
      send WDW a letter authorizing them to charge the cost of your room
      to your credit card.

   o  Port Orleans, Dixie Landings, and the CBR are really great places
      to stay and offer great family deals. If you are into water activ-
      ities stay at the CBR.

   o  Never stay down there without a car, right Kathy? The roadways are
      very convenient.

   o  Never eat at Tony's at night.

   o  Hit the Plaza Restaurant BEFORE "Fantasy..."

   o  If you see something you like...BUY IT...don't put it off.

   o  Definitely do attractions during the parade. We sort of did it in
      1990 but we made a point to do it in 1992 and it paid off.

   o  Plan to eat most meals at sit-down restaurants. We did it much more
      this time (90%) than last time. It definitely gives you more for
      your money.

   o  Watch parades from Town Square as well as Liberty Tree Square. You
      get good views of floats head on.

   o  Always eat at the Contemporary Cafe dinner buffet at least once dur-
      ing your stay...best meal for the money on the property....and you
      can take that to the bank.

   o  I'll always park at the CR parking lot and walk to TMK from there...what
      a timesaver.

   o  If possible plan to go with another family or friends and plan on
      spending time together...it makes for a more enjoyable trip.

   o  I doubt if I'll ever see Illuminations again...simply doesn't im-
      press me.

   o  Always visit World Showcase first thing in the morning. Everything
      is so fresh and clean...it's plain delightful.

   o  I will always go out of my way to listen to the Voices of Liberty
      sing.

   o  I won't let a trip go by without a meal at Beaches and Cream.

   o  It's well worth the wait for some attractions like fireworks and
      parades if it results in great pictures and tape footage.

   o  Shopping and browsing is a definite WDW pastime that everyone should
      plan on doing because it breaks up the day and helps you deal with
      heat and crowds in the summer. Plan for this...why go crazy try-
      ing to do attractions all the time.

   o  I could sit and watch Streetmosphere all day long.

   o  Pretty tough to imagine anything better in the morning than stand-
      ing in front of TGMR and listening to "Over the Rainbow" before the
      crowds come pouring into the park.

   o  From now on I'm having a dole whip every time I go into TMK.

   o  The Grand Floridian...who needs it?

   o  Everyone should go to the Tangarora Terrace for breakfast once in
      their lifetime.

   o  You can never have enough film or tape for a trip to WDW. We took
      over 1000 pictures (3 cameras) and about 36 hours of tape.

   o  Nothing matches the experience of going up on stage during Hoop Dee
      Doo.

   o  I won't miss "Mission to Mars".

   o  I still miss Mickey Mouse Revue.

Of course for the obvious "there's only so much time and so much money"
excuse there are those things I didn't get to do this time around.

   o  I never got to eat breakfast at The Crystal Palace.

   o  BTMRR. Yeah even this chicken thought about riding it. I never got
      the urge while there but I do now. Yes folks I have been on this
      attraction before this year.

   o  Never saw the stage show in Mickey's Starland.

   o  Never got a family-portrait postcard at Communicore West(?) to send
      back to the grandparents.

   o  Still haven't seen the making of me or "Body Wars."

   o  There are still some restaurants in World Showcase that I would like
      to sample some day...notably Le Cellier, Akershus, and Marrakesh.

   o  Wasn't picked for SuperStar TV or Monster Sound...no big deal here
      I guess.

   o  Never got to the Adventurers Club at PI.

   o  Never saw TMK's fireworks from the top of the Contemporary.

   o  Never ate at Chef Mickey's.

   o  Didn't grab some of that Italian Ice at Typhoon Lagoon.

   o  Never got to walk around Dixie Landings or Port Orleans or take in
      a restaurant or two at either one.

   o  Ditto on the Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater.

   o  Didn't get to see the Electrical Water Pageant.

There were some pleasant surprises this time around too. Here is that
list:

   o  The Contemporary Buffet

   o  SpectroMagic...the music made the difference for me.

   o  Bonnet Creek Pway and the Contemporary walkway to TMK made a big
      difference in getting to and from TMK.

   o  The opening of Splash Mountain.

   o  Lower than expected crowds.

   o  The Concourse Grille. I know I'm contradicting another trip report
      but I saw thumbs up for this restaurant.

   o  VOTLM and Muppet-4D are exceptional.

And it goes without saying that for my money there is no other place
on this planet that gives you the most for your vacation dollar as far
as service, quality, entertainment, and willful suspension of disbe-
lief than does the World that Walt Built.

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290.36Quite late trip report - 31/7/92 to 13/8/92BRUMMY::TIDMARSHMichael Tidmarsh 841 3316Sun Sep 06 1992 18:21219
290.37Ian Preece's Euro-Disney Trip ReportSALEM::BERUBE_CWhere do you think you are? WDW!!Tue Sep 08 1992 17:33604
    The  following    is   being  posted  on  behalf  of  Ian  Preece,  who
    unfortunately parted company  with  DEC  a  couple of days prior to his
    trip.
    
    Ian says if anyone  wishes  more  info,  he'd  be  happy  to correspond
    directly via his personal e-mail address 

        (from within DEC)  nm%decwrl::"ianp@dktower.demon.co.uk"
    
    
    Claude

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Euro_Disney, the Preece Family Trip Report
-------------------------------------------

Who:

Son Neil, age 8 (just - this was a birthday trip), our expert on
"things Disney".

Wife Bet, age given as "over 21...", moderately well travelled,
but not happy about driving in France, on the "wrong" side of the
road.

Me, also very much "over 21" ;-), quite happy to drive anywhere.
At the time, suffering from an ankle injury, so walking with the
aid of crutches.   This was interesting later on.....

For all of us, this was our first time at any Disney park.


When:

Setting out on the 8th August.  (Experts will tell you that
August is a bad time to travel in France, it's the main holiday
season, but it also coincides with Neil's birthday, hence the
timing.)


Where:

We live on the South Coast of the UK.


Sources of information:

Michelin maps 54 and 55, Paris Guides 9 and 10, various magazine
articles, and previous postings in this conference.

GETTING THERE:

We elected to take our own car over, since it gave us extra
freedom of movement, and more space to pack odd bags, etc, over
either bus or fly-drive deals. We caught the lunchtime ferry from
Poole to Cherbourg, this choice being dictated by the fact that
we live about 10 minutes from the Poole ferry dock.  Cherbourg is
perhaps a little further from Paris/ED than Calais or the other
Channel ports, though this was not a problem. It's worth noting
that, on this particular crossing, the extra few quid to reserve
a seat or cabin are worthwhile, as there's very little unreserved
seating. Formalities were minimal (I was still waiting to be
stopped for passport control at Cherbourg when I realised we were
on the street outside!) and the crossing takes a little over 4
hours.

Once out of Cherbourg, we took the N13 towards Caen. This is a
major road, but picks up a bit of traffic in major towns like
Bayeux. Major routes are generally well-signposted in France, so
we had no problems finding our way.  At Caen, we picked up A13,
all the way to Paris.  This is an excellent road, though you do
have to stop and pay for it now and again !   - "A" roads are
funded by tolls - the total journey cost from Caen to Paris was
only FF51, and the toll booths do have a channel reserved for
"cartes bancaires", which take Visa cards, as well as the auto
and manual channels for cash.

We'd elected to stay at a hotel on the outskirts of Paris (The
Novotel at Charenton), rather than in the Parc itself, to give us
more freedom to explore.  Getting there involved making our way
around the city on Saturday evening, from one side to the
other...... "No problem, I used to work here, I know the way...."
;-)   What I'd forgotten is that August is road-works time on the
famous Boulevard Peripherique, the Paris ring-road (as are many
nights and weekends).  Deviations were well-posted, though, and
we had a good street-map, so we got there easily enough.  Future
travellers may like to know that a call to Paris (+33 1)42 76 52
52 will get you an update on the state of major road closures
around the city.  A grasp of the language is useful, though !

As we arrived late at night, our first full day was spent
sleeping and doing a little local sightseeing, so it was Monday
when we set off to the Parc itself.   Forget all the horror-
stories in UK newspapers about unfinished infrastructure and
back-country roads, ED is very well served for communications.
The RER rail network (line A from Paris) goes directly to a
station right outside the gates (Though it's worth noting that
the Metro does NOT run to the Parc, contrary to some earlier
reports).  A TGV link is also planned for June '94.   There are
shuttle buses from the airport.   By car, it's just a matter of
heading out of Paris on A4, towards Nancy/Metz.   About twenty
minutes later, you reach exit 14, which is posted for "Espace
EuroDisneyLand", and which takes you straight up to the gate.

Parking will cost you FF30 for the day, and you can leave and
return during the day on the same ticket.  When you leave your
car and head for the slideways that take you to the gate, DO make
a note of the row you parked in (D21, for example, it's on the
road at the end of each row).  The car-parking lot is broken down
into areas A, B, D, F and J  (Right, I wondered, too.... it's
Alice, Bambi, Donald, Fleur and Jiminy, OK?), but you need much
finer resolution than that to get back to the right car !

As I was walking with crutches, I was pretty annoyed to find that
most of the slideways were shut off when we got there.  We later
found that it's a popular game with certain visitors to push the
emergency-stop buttons and leave people stranded.  Parc staff
have to come out and reset them.

There are announcements being made continuously as you slide or
walk toward the entrance, welcoming you to the Parc and telling
you what's on today, in English and French (Other languages are
not catered for at all.  More on languages later.)

The main entrance area is underneath the Disneyland hotel, after
you get through the carefully-designed maze of gardens and
fountains, probably intended to reduce crowd-surge.  If you don't
have tickets, you'll be directed left or right to the sales
desks.   If, like us, you got them in advance, you have to hold
them up like a talisman to ward off the cast-members who will
ambush you every few steps to try and stop people without tickets
backing-up the turnstiles.  Either side of the way in are useful
things like "Guest-storage" (left-luggage lockers), pushchair and
wheelchair rental and currency exchange points.  Note that ONLY
French Francs are accepted inside the Parc, and it causes chaos
to try to use anything else.  Some, not all, of the shops take
some, not all, credit cards (mostly Visa or AmEx) for larger
amounts.

Once through the turnstiles, you come to:

MAIN St. USA...

This is the main shopping area for the Parc, and there are shops
galore !!  Clothes, books, food, ceramics, glass, more food, more
clothes, souvenirs, postcards, the ubiquitous popcorn (I shall
always associate this trip with the smell of popcorn, it's
everywhere!), you name it, somebody will sell it to you here.

It's worth looking up at the store-fronts, too, many of the signs
have some nice little jokes in them, and there are sometimes
things going on in the dummy "upstairs" sections.  For example,
as you stand outside "Victoria's Boarding House", reading the
menu of "The best pot-pies in town", you can hear a sound-track
of somebody running a bath, gargling, washing, and singing in the
bath, from an upstairs window. (I may be wrong, but I *think*
it's actually soundtrack from a very old Goofy short......)

The major impression of Main St., though, was CROWDS..... far too
many people, all pushing each other out of the way.  There were a
lot of Parc security people around, and they all looked worried,
so we guessed that the numbers had reached overload.  It
certainly felt like it, but there was no attempt to restrict
entries, and a chatty cast member said he didn't know of any time
when there had been any efforts to control the numbers. "They
just keep coming.....", he said...

(Footnote to that... I just heard, from a friend who came back
yesterday, that on Saturday they actually stopped people entering
the Parc, when the number fo people actually inside the gates
reached 65,000.  I seem to recall that the stated caacity was
60,000.)


By popular request (as in, "we're going there or else"!), our
first port of call, after making a quick inspection of Main St.
and noting the spots to hit on the way back,  was:

FRONTIERLAND.

This is based on the "ole' mining town of Thunder Mesa", which
you enter through the Fort from the top of Main St. (All the
lands have a main entry off the area in front of the castle, and
also interconnect with their neighbouring lands at one other
point.)  Again, lots of nice little sight-gags on the adverts
round the store-fronts in the "town square" - look out for the
the Tried'n'True TNT company ad......
To your left are the Lucky Nugget Saloon and the Silver Spur
Steakhouse, on the right the Fuente del Oro Restaurante and the
Cowboy Cookout Barbecue, intermingled with shops and such.
Ahead of you is the lake surrounding Big Thunder Mountain, with
Phantom Manor to the left.  These, along with the riverboats,
canoes and keel-boats on the water, are the only real "rides" in
this land, everything else is shops and eateries.   Every half
hour or so, there was a "shoot-out" on the roofs and balconies of
the buildings overlooking the square.   The day we were there,
this featured Goofy as a Good Guy - and two people firing fully-
automatic shotguns.  Bad bit of anachronism there, but it
probably only bothers nit-pickers like me!!!   Lots of noise and
smoke and dead bodies falling off rooftops for the kids to enjoy,
anyway.

First visit was to Phantom Manor.  The house itself is straight
out of "Psycho", for those of us old enough.....;-), and part of
the fun, during the longish wait, was spotting the ways they had
managed to make the surroundings look spooky.... including, we
decided, some techniques borrowed from bonsai, to make the trees
and shrubs look suitably distressed and mournful....
First Tip here.... when you get into the foyer of the house, keep
left, and look up and left as soon as they shut the door.  The
image of the Phantom Bride in the mirror isn't there for long.
Virtually all the announcements are in French, so you need to
know the story already, or just enjoy the visuals.   One
exception, during our visit, was the cast member operating the
elevator (which is to the left of the foyer, hence the advice to
keep left.)  He had a wonderfully funereal voice, and superb
timing.... "Stand away from the walls, keep to the Dead Centre of
the room....." ;-)  Be sure to keep looking up as the room
telescopes downwards.    You walk through the "gallery" and board
the cars for the second part of the ride, which is pretty
standard.   Would somebody familiar with "Spitting Image" please
take a look at the ghost seated at the right-hand end of the
table in the Banqueting Hall and confirm my suspicion that it
looks like their version of Ronnie Reagan ??  There's some
amusement to be had on the way out, too, as you exit through the
graveyard, and many of the tombstones are hilarious.  (Though,
again, the best jokes are in French)

Next on the list was Big Thunder Mountain, for which there was a
Big Long Wait.   The sign said 90 minutes, but it was more like 2
to 2-and-a-half hours, and we encountered our first queue-
jumpers, unfortunately.  There were 6 or 8 Spanish teenagers,
working their way steadily up the line by sheer intimidation and
nuisance value (For example, they'd "accidentally" hold lighted
cigarettes against people's backs, then slip by when you turned
to see why your shirt was on fire.  Or they'd simply drag your
kids backwards so that you had to go back and retrieve them.)
Like most people, I had my child with me, so I declined the
potential confrontation, though I did briefly succumb to the
temptation to jam my crutches between somebody's feet..... Cast
members said it happens a lot, but there's nothing they can
really do about it at peak times.  After a while, you just learn
how to block the aisle by spreading out a lot.....

Once you get inside the building itself, there's lots more to
look at while you wait some more, plenty of interesting bits of
repro and possibly real mining hardware, and a number of little
jokes, too.
(Why does the "{mumble} dynamite company of Benson, Arizona",
sound familiar ? The only reference I can come up with is the
song, "Benson, Arizona", featured in Dark Star, but I can't
recall it mentioning dynamite.....)  The canned music gets a
little wearing, though, since it's a bit loud, and of the
relentlessly jolly, "Yee-haw, dang ma spittoons, pardner !"
variety, but repeats rather too often......
The ride itself is well worth the wait, the only complaint being
that it's not long enough !!!    You leave the "station" via a
tunnel, and pass under the lake to emerge on the island in the
centre, where most of the ride takes place. There are lots of
little details that you don't spot while you're hanging on and
screaming, but worth looking for from outside....like the goat
eating the washing, a couple of mules watching you scream past,
and a family of possums (???) hanging from the branch of a tree,
who spin round and round as you go underneath.....

After lunch (chicken and fries at the "Chalet du Marionette",
very fast-food-ish and expensive), we moved on to :

ADVENTURELAND

The only real "ride" here is "Pirates of the Caribbean".  There's
"Adventure Isle" and "la Cabane des Robinsons" and a lot of
souvenir/food/clothes shops, but "Pirates" is the big deal in
this particular land. Once again, a two-hour wait, and an
important lesson..... if you are at all subject to claustrophobia
or panic attacks in crowds, skip this one on a busy day.   The
second half of the waiting area is dark, crowded and airless, and
one unfortunate lady in front of us had to be rescued by Parc
staff.  Just as we reached the boarding area for the boats, it
all came to a grinding halt, and we had to wait for about 20
minutes while they resolved a technical problem of some sort.  To
give due credit, the staff coped well, keeping everyone informed
as to what was going on, but there were some very relieved faces
on the boat-loads of people who emerged from the tunnel after 20
minutes.... one wonders where they'd been stuck !  This ride
probably features more animatronics than most of the others, and
is simply too full of detail to see it all in one go....or to
describe to any great extent. It's basically a mixture of a
roller-coaster boat ride and set-piece animatronic scenes of
jolly pirates doing jolly piratical things like robbing and
plundering and getting drunk and fighting and killing
people....all good clean family entertainment !  See it yourself,
and have fun.....

By now, we'd had about enough, there was much bad-tempered
whining and threats of tears, and Neil wasn't very happy
either.....;-), so we called it a a day and made our way back to
Paris to rest our feet and elbows, coming back on the Thursday to
resume with...

DISCOVERYLAND.

There's a higher proportion of things to actually *do* here, so
it took up more of the day than previous lands.  We headed first
for " Le Visionarium", a circle-vision "time-travel" movie show
featuring Jules Verne and a brief appearance by H.G. Wells -
looking suspiciously like Michael Palin, can somebody check on
that?     It's also a shameless plug for the sponsors, Renault,
to the extent that the aircraft featured in the "future" section
has a very prominently highlighted Renault car badge on the
back......;-)

Another Tip here..... when you first go into the building, you're
not in the auditorium at all, just in the waiting area, where you
stand up to see a 20-minute series of commercials for French
engineering and Renault in particular, plus an introductory piece
by "Timekeeper", the host for the show (In French, but with
summary sub-titles in French, German and ?? Italian on displays
beside the screen).  As everyone is standing, and packed tightly
together, children can't see a thing, and claustrophobes might be
advised to miss this one, too.     The entrance doors to the main
auditorium are on the left of the foyer, so keep left as you go
in, to avoid being at the back once they open. If you're quick to
get in, you can get to one of the limited number of "leaning
bars", with telephone handsets that will give you translated
soundtrack, otherwise you have to cope with the mental gymnastics
of simultaneously translating the quick-fire French banter and
resisting the efforts of the cinematographers to make you lose
your balance.  As a one-time pilot, I particularly enjoyed the
flight sequences, Bet said it make her feel airsick, and Neil
couldn't see, for all the people packed in front of him.
Full marks, here, to the cast member on the door, who spotted me
leaning on my crutches in the queue, and had a seat reserved by
security staff in the waiting area by the time we got there.

Next stop was the Cafe Hyperion, themed on one of Jules Verne's
airships, but still basically just a fast-food takeaway.  This
adjoins Videopolis, which is a multi-media and stage area, in
which various shows are put on throughout the day.   Check the
"Events of the day" for details on your visit.

Fortified by a quick burger, we moved on to Star Tours.   As Bet
was still feeling queasy from the effects of Visionarium, she sat
this one out while Neil and I braved the queues. (Another 90-
minute wait)  Star Tours is, basically, a motion simulator
similar to the ones you'll find at many fun parks nowadays, the
bonus being that it's packaged by George Lucas, the Star Wars
man.   It's "set" in a space-port of the future, and you're
bombarded with announcements, departures, advertising for day-
trips round the universe, apologies for delays and security
announcements as you wait.  Just like the real thing, in fact!
You get a little lecture from C3PO, in between him having an
argument with R2D2 (in French, of course), then the line follows
up past the "Droidnostic Centre", where a maintenance droid is
trying to repair some others, with a hilarious line in back-chat
and suitable pyrotechnics, then to the "Passport Control" droid,
which, surprisingly, speaks English ("I dunno, chief, they're all
just standing here looking at me......").  Then you board the
simulator, get introduced to your droid pilot who welcomes you
aboard and explains that this is his first flight, too ...... ;-)
After that, he flies you out through the wrong exit, and gets
involved in some spare Star-wars footage while the simulator
hydraulics do their best to separate you from
your lunch.......;-)   Again, all too short, and we staggered out
into the daylight again, to find we'd missed one of the many live
bands playing outside the Hyperion.

Next up, to avoid a family mutiny, was CineMagique, the Michael
Jackson 3-D movie.  Another long wait, but at least you get to
sit down at the end of it, in comfortable chairs.....  Despite an
inbuilt dislike of Wacko Jacko, on the part of the adults at
least, we all had to admit that this was a fun show, and very
well done.   Again, it's by George Lucas, and uses a lot of left-
over Star Wars hardware, but the 3-D trickery is generally very
good indeed.   Watch for all the kids in the audience reaching
out to touch the little furry flying thing that comes "out" of
the screen. The brochure warns that high sound levels may affect
those with sensitive hearing.

We skipped Orbitron and Autopia, since they looked to be basic
fairground rides with a little extra dressing, and we didn't have
time to stand in the long queues. (Orbitron consists of cars
going round on hydraulic arms which you can raise and lower,
Autopia gives you a chance to drive small cars around a track)

For lunch, we went back to Main St. and had Seafood Pot-Pies at
"Victoria's" _ highly recommended !  Then on to :

FANTASYLAND.

This land probably has more actual "rides" than any other, along
with plenty of static display items, the most notable being
Sleeping Beauty's Castle, or Le Chateau de la Belle au Bois
Dormant (sorry, 7-bit mail servers won't let me do the accents
properly!)  We were, frankly, disappointed in the castle itself,
but this may have been due to the overwhelming numbers of people,
all trying to get up and down a single staircase at the same
time.  However, underneath the castle is the Dragon's Lair, which
is a great piece of animatronic engineering.
The dragon sleeps, his eyes closed and his chest moving as he
breathes.  Occasionally, his tail and claws will twitch.  Then
he'll wake up and make a bite for the audience, and there's
teeth, claws and smoke everywhere!

Next was "Les Voyages de Pinnochio", which was so-so.... we felt
that it was over too soon, key parts of the story were missed
out, and, if you didn't know the story, you'd just get confused.
Not, we felt, worth the 60-minute wait.   We did spot, though,
that a visitor in a wheelchair was given priority and allowed to
skip the queue.  Again, full marks to the cast members for that.

Exactly the reverse, we felt, was true for "Peter Pan's Flight",
well worth the long shuffle in winding lines, this was an
excellent ride, with plenty of good miniature scene-building and
well-handled effects.

On, then, to "Alice's Curious Labyrinth".  This was fun, if
crowded. For me, the highlight was the fountains, in which
carefully shaped lumps of water "chase" from one fountain to the
next.  Very clever, I could have watched it for hours, but I got
dragged off and forced to have an "unBirthday" cake at March Hare
Refreshments.  I didn't want to, you understand, they made me do
it....;-)  Though the "Toppings of your choice" in the brochure
actually turned out to be "You want chocolate or vanilla ??"

Also in Fantasyland is the obligatory "Small world" ride, in
every imaginable language, though it was interesting to notice
that, for most of the ride, the voices were an indistinct mumble,
until you got to France and Hollywood, when they suddenly got
very loud and clear.....or am I just a cynic ?  ;-)

We skipped "Alice's teacups" and "Dumbo", for similar reasons as
the rides in Discoveryland, and Snow-white and the Seven Dwarves
because we simply couldn't face the record-breaking queue.

Time to go and catch the parade on Main St.   We got a good spot
on the ramp up to the Chateau, since the parade emerges from the
Fantasyland-side service area and passes across in front of the
Chateau itself.  It was only when we looked back down Main St and
saw the *solid* mass of people that we really appreciated how
many tens of thousands there must have been there.   A little
scary, really.

I planned to shoot the parade on video, so I was concerned about
the effects of nudgers and pushers-in.  I was, therefore,
pleasantly surprised by the lovely French family who were around
us, and who kept reminding their children not to get in the way
of "the man with the camera".  By the way, an aluminium crutch,
fully extended, makes a great camera-stand!

After the parade, we got down to some serious shopping, and
patronised most of the establishments on Main St at least once,
to get our t-shirts, hats, ponchos, stickers, postcards, and so
on......there are, by the way, bi-lingual cash-points in the
arcades either side of Main St, which will take Visa cards or (I
think - somebody may care to verify this....) any bank cards
which work on the Plus or Link networks.

By the time we'd finished shopping (which included going back to
Frontierland to buy cowboy hats !), it was getting dark, so we
crossed the entrance area to Festival Disney (more shops, discos,
bars and so on) to get something to eat while we waited for the
fireworks.   Here, we found Carnegie's, a very effective copy of
a New York Deli, in which I was able to indulge a passion for hot
pastrami (on proper rye bread, too!) and fizzy American beer
(Real Michelob, no less!).
Bet, who knows about these things, had a lox-and-cream-cheese
bagel and pronounced it excellent, while Neil had a bologna-and-
swiss sandwich which vanished rapidly enough to convince us he
enjoyed it !
If the materials for that particular establishment were flown in
every day from NY, I shouldn't be at all surprised !

Sadly, it had begun to rain by now, so the fireworks were fairly
short, but spectacular, nonetheless!.  It was well after midnight
before we tumbled into bed, grinning like fools and unable to
stop humming "It's a small world after all......."


SUMMARY:

Attention to layout and detail is fabulous, which is, I
understand, the case at other Disney sites.   There are one or
two subtle aspects to the design, too, like streets built narrow
to create a pressure towards the shops, and subtle crowd-breakers
to stop surges.

The visitor guides don't really give a lot of detail, so it may
well be worth investing in a "proper" guide book.

The sheer volume of people spoiled it for us, to some extent,
since we just got fed up with being battered by crowds and
compelled to wait long periods for relatively short rides.  Plus,
it's very hard for an 8-year old to see things when there's
*always* a crowd around him.
Belt-buckles must get pretty boring after the first few
thousand......

Disney have to do something about crowd management.
Many of the spaces, shops, etc, seem to be designed for politer
people (Are American crowds better-behaved ?) who won't push and
shove and gouge.

Weather is going to be a problem, especially since at least half
of the waiting time for many of the rides is outside, at peak
times. (They're sneaky like that, you shuffle back and forth
between rope barriers on the street for an hour, then you get to
the building, thinking you've arrived, only to find that half the
building is waiting area, too !)

Access is simple and uncomplicated, by car, train or bus.

Almost anything you could want is available on site, including
child-care services, baby-sitting, banking, first-aid and full-
scale medical services. We saw the aftermath of an incident in
which, we assumed, somebody had been taken seriously ill.
Several Parc security staff appeared, flanking a group of well-
equipped medical staff with a crash-cart.  The casualty was
quickly and efficiently loaded up and moved very rapidly out
through the nearest service space entrance, where an ambulance
was waiting just the other side of the gate.  All very slick and
reassuring. (Though I could be my usual cynical self and suggest
that it's in ED's interests to get casualties out of sight as
soon as possible.....)

Prices.... on the whole, we felt things were very expensive. By
this, I mean "extras" like food and souvenirs.   We felt that we
were a captive market, to be milked for all it was worth, and
rather resented the feeling.

Languages....  The main language of the Parc is French and, while
not essential, a working knowledge of it will certainly enhance
your visit.  Notices and menus are all in French and English, but
most of the prerecorded information and descriptive tracks on the
rides are French only.  "Live" announcements tend to be bi-
lingual.    All of the staff speak French as a minimum, most
speak one or more other languages too.   In the shops,
particularly, staff will wear a small badge, in addition to their
Disney nametag, showing flags to indicate what languages they
speak (interestingly, some wear the Stars'n'Stripes, others the
Union Flag...  one even wore both !  ;-)
Except in the shops, there is no attempt to deal with any
language groups other than French or English, a fact which upset
a German family that we met, since they had to spend a lot of
time translating things to their children.   As an aside on
language, we noticed that the cast members will relentlessly tell
you to "Have a Nice Day" if addressed in English, but not in any
other language ! (Between us, we tried English, French, German
and Italian, and we only ever got "H.A.N.D."'ed
in English.....;-))


OTHER ATTRACTIONS

While you're there, it's silly not to go and visit the other
attractions that the area has to offer..... we spent two days in
Paris itself, we went to the Chateau de Versailles, to
Fontainbleu and we drove out to Reims (just keep going, on the
A4, or, better yet, turn off onto the back roads and follow the
Champagne Route) which is the heart of the Champagne region, and
well worth a visit.
If you're going into Paris, it's best to leave your car behind.
We were lucky, since there was a Metro station right outside our
hotel. The Paris Metro is a very efficient way of getting about,
with a flat-rate cost of FF6 for any journey, anywhere within the
city.  This includes changes to other lines, too.  Or you can buy
a block of 10 tickets for FF36, or a "Paris Visite" card that
lets you go anywhere, on the Metro or the RER, for a fixed number
of days.  Like any city, parking can be expensive (we spent
something like 75 pounds on parking in a week!), risky and/or
hard to find, so the further out you can leave your car, the
better.



There are probably all kinds of details I've missed out, do
please feel free to contact us by e-mail....

      nm%decwrl::"ianp@dktower.demon.co.uk"

if you want to ask any questions, or if we can help with any
advice.



Regards,
Ian, Bet and Neil Preece

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          " Old Man Of the Sea....."
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290.38Our 8/22-8/29 Trip ReportASABET::YEE_WONGSat Sep 12 1992 17:32139
Who:  The Wongs - me, husband, our two kids (7,6), the Huangs - my
      sister, her 3 kids (11, 10, 4) and my mom...9 in total.
When:   8/22/92-8/29/92
Where:  Orlando International Resort on I-Drive (got practically for nothing
        since my sister's sister-in-law did a timeshare swap for us)
Last Trip:  May, 1989 for us.  First time for my sister and her kids.  Over
            15+ years ago for my mother.

8/22 (Saturday) - Flew out of Boston on a non-stop Delta flight.  Got into
Orlando a little after 3 P.M. and Micky was at the terminal.  The kids had 
pictures taken with Micky and then it was off to get the rentals at Avis.  
Got to the condo and the kids and my husband went swimming while 
my sister and I went to the market.  Had dinner at Red Lobster later on that 
night.

8/23 (Sunday) - Got to the TTC before 8:30 and took the first ferry over
to the MK (monorail was pretty crowded.)  Made reservations for 1:45 P.M.
Diamond Horseshoe Review.  Headed over to Frontierland and went on Splash 
Mountain (kids need to be over 48" tall)...pretty good ride, and Thunder 
Mountain.  Headed next to Adventureland and did Pirates of the Caribbean, 
Enchanted Tiki Birds.  Off to Liberty Square and did the Haunted Mansion.
Went back to Adventureland to do Jungle Cruise.  Headed back to Frontierland 
and did Country Bears and Diamond Horseshoe Review (first time ever seeing 
this...a lot of fun...and we had lunch there too.)  Timed it right for the 
3 P.M. parade...after the review, stood right outside on the porch and had a  
pretty good view...unobstructed due to its elevated vantage point.)  After 
parade, took train over to Micky's Starland.  Took in the show but did not wait
around to take pictures with Micky.  The show was o.k. (characters were 
from Dark Wing Duck, Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers, and I think one other 
Disney afternoon cartoon show)...I was disappointed because I would have
liked to see the more traditional characters (i.e. Pluto, Minnie, Goofy, etc)
Went over to Fantasyland and did the Mad Tea Party, Small World, Peter Pan's
Flight.  At Tomorrowland, did Mission to Mars, Delta Dreamer, Wedway Mover,
Carousel of Progress, Grand Prix.  Had dinner at the Adventureland (food is
terrible...should have known...thought food pretty bad last time, but after
3 years, thought it would have improved...NOT)  Stayed for Spectro Magic parade
(same viewing spot as afternoon parade) and fireworks.  Took ferry back
to the TTC.

8/24 (Monday) - No sign of Andrew...headed to MGM.  Got there before 8:30 and
they opened up the park shortly after.  Headed straight for Star Tours (best
ride overall...better story line, better than Back to the Future over at 
Universal).  Did Indy Jones Stunt Spectacular, Great Movie Ride, Little 
Mermaid (cute and imaginative), Backstage Studio Tour (tram part only...boy, 
could really feel the heat), saw the TMNT show (disappointing), and then the 
Muppet Vision 3-D (preshow was really cute...actual show itself was pretty 
good, but at times, I felt like I was watching Sesame Street in 3-D.)  Back to 
condo for swimming and lunch.  Later on, did SuperStar T.V. (only o.k....
success of show is really dependent on the size of the crowd and the selected 
"participants"), Monster Sound, Animation Tour (did not stay for the walking 
segment).  Headed over to see the 7 P.M. Beauty and the Beast Show (great!...
not to be missed if you like musicals...but is even better at night.)  I think 
that we then had dinner at the Soundstage Restaurant (had the Beauty and the 
Beast theme).  Saw Sorcery in the Sky.

8/25 (Tuesday) - Spent pretty much the whole day at Typhoon Lagoon.  Found
a very nice shady spot for all 9 of us by KetchaKiddie Creek.  (Need to get 
to the park by 9 A.M. if you want a decent spot to put all your belongings.)
Spent a lot of time at the big Wave Pool.  Did Castaway Creek and did the 
Keelhaul and Mayday Falls. We rented the tubes (costs $5 each...we had 7 in 
all), and never had a problem with people walking off with them...but found 
out that they did offer complimentary tubes at certain rides (i.e. Castaway 
Creek, Keelhaul, etc), but these tubes had to stay on site...could not be 
taken to other rides...better to rent anyway if you want to avoid the wait.  
For those with little kids, Ketchakiddie Creek does offer a little waterslide 
for the kids, but they need the kids version of the tube...don't know if 
they offer complimentary ones at Ketchakiddie.  Be careful at the Wave pool...
especially during the surf periods...you can get really hurt with all those 
bodies colliding with one another and the waves can really pull a person down
onto the concrete base of the pool.  Had to make 2 trips to the first aid 
office and noticed that a lot of other people had already been there before us,
based on the log sheet they kept.  Didn't get to the other side of the park 
where they have the Shark Reef and the body slides...  At night, headed over 
to Pleasure Island and caught the "show" at the Adventurers Club.  Also, caught 
the show at the Comedy Warehouse (it was improv...pretty funny) and caught a 
late night snack at the Fireworks Restaurant.

8/26 (Wednesday).  Got to Universal Studios before 8:30 and they were just
starting to let people into the park.  Did Hanna-Barbera (o.k.), E.T. (o.k.), 
Back to the Future (pretty good), Earthquake (pretty good), Kongfrontation
(o.k...the long winding path just to get to the ride has WDW beat...except for
maybe Space MOuntain), Ghostbuster (pretty imaginative show...but poorly
designed waiting area for the preshow), and the Nickelodeon Studios Tour 
(kids will like the end of the tour...there was a play game lab where the 
kids get to participate in providing feedback for a potential new game for
one of their game show.)  Felt pretty good, because we got all the major rides 
in before noon...and none of the rides broke down (except for 5 minutes during
our wait at Kongfrontation).  Went back to the condo for lunch and a swim.
Later did Murder She Wrote (o.k.), the Gory, Gruesome & Grotesque Horror
Makeup show (one of the better shows), Hitchcock 3-D (o.k.), the Wild West
Stunt Show (o.K.) and then headed out for dinner and condo...didn't stay for
the Dynamite Nights Stunt Spectacular (getting tired after being constantly
on the go since Sunday.)

8/27 (Thursday).  Spent the day at Epcot.  Made lunch and dinner reservations
at Earth Station.  Did Spaceship Earth.  Headed over to Wonders of Life (best
overall at Epcot...imho) and did Body Wars (good), Cranium Command (very cute).
On to Horizons, Captain EO, Journey into Imagination, Mexico, Norway, China 
and then had lunch at Germany.  Next to American Adventure (hard to stay up...
kept dozing off), France, Canada, The Land, World of Motion, Universe of 
Energy (another dozing area), and then back to Wonders of Life.  Wanted
to see the Making of Me, but hubby and I were getting tired and didn't
want to wait.  We left the park with our kids to have dinner (Olive Gardens...
the pasta dishes we had were tasty) and back to the condo.  The other members
of my family stayed at the park to watch Illumination.    

8/28 (Friday).  Went back to the MK.  This time, we split up.  My husband
and my 2 nieces went to Space Mountain (rode 2X) and the rest of us went back 
to Splash Mountain (rode 2X).  Met up at Fantasyland and did the Tea Cups, 
20K Leagues Under the Sea.  Did an early lunch and then did Magic Journeys, 
Cinderella's Carousel (several times!), Snow White, Grand Prix, Space Mountain,
WedWay Mover, pictures with Micky, train back to Main St., Life of
Walt Disney (dozed off a little).  Headed out and went to Disney Village
to do a little shopping at the Disney store.  Had dinner at the Contemporary.

8/29 (Saturday).  Checked out of the condo.  Headed to the Contemporary
for the Character Breakfast.  Stopped off at the arcade downstairs.  Headed
to Belz Factory and made a stop at the Character Warehouse store.  Nothing 
special about the rest of the mall (have similar outlets up here).  Back
to the airport (Micky and Minnie were at the terminal) and then home.  

Summary:  Overall, a very successful trip.  Have never stayed on I-Drive...
a lot of outlets and a lot of restaurants.  However, traffic on I-Drive
is horrible, especially at the 2 major intersections, Sandman Lake and 
Kirkman.  They need to coordinate their traffic lights better...these
lights create a major bottleneck!   

Also, would highly recommend the Unofficial Guide to WDW.  (Saw quite a 
few folks in the parks toting this same book.)  Contained a lot 
of very useful tips and found it to be more detailed than Birnbaum's book.
Found it amusing when the book suggested that "...if you encounter some dummy
blocking the middle of the row, have every person in your party step very
hard on his toes as you move past him." (Of course we didn't do that, but
would have been tempted...Fortunately, we never experienced any of these
problems.)  We found the touring plan in the book to be very helpful, and used 
it as a guide in planning our day at the parks.  Because we went on the "off
days", we never had to wait long for anything...made the trip more enjoyable.  

Jean
290.39October 10-18ASABET::MCLAUGHLINTue Oct 20 1992 20:21164
Who:	Shawn, sister Margery, niece Kristen (11)

When:   October 10-18

Where:  Dixie Landings

Note:   We found Disney food so atrocious, we avoided it.  We mostly ate 
        at Dixie Landings cafeteria area because of convenience - and then 
        only when necessary to sustain life.  Most Disney food tasted 
        artificial, and the Dixie Landing specialty (Southern/Cajun???) food 
        appeared to be loaded with fat.

Although we arrived at Logan 1+ hour early on Saturday afternoon, Delta 
wanted to bump us.  My travel companions did not want to arrive in Orlando 
at midnight in exchange for free future travel.  Because we lacked seat 
assignments, our tickets were held until the very last minute anyway, when 
we were issued 3 seats that were not together.  When we boarded, my sister's 
seat was vacant, but there were passengers in Kristen's and my assigned seats.
There were no other vacant seats on the plane, so we were escorted to the 
rear galley, and another plea for volunteers was made.  As Kristen and I 
stood in the galley pondering our fate, a seated passenger started chatting 
with me.  I told her we had arrived early and not volunteered, but our 
tickets were held anyway, and we were travelling with a fearful flyer.  If 
we were not to make the 4:25 flight, we might not make it to Florida at all, 
because the fearful flyer might get too nervous over the course of 3 hours, 
and her tranquilizer might wear off (she had taken two Xanaxes as part of her 
preflight ritual.  My sob story was absolutely true.)  At that point, the 
woman said nothing but gestured to her daughter, who looked to be around 
Kristen's age, but was seated several rows ahead.  The daughter did not 
respond, so the woman walked up and talked to her daughter, then they both 
left the plane!!!  I was given the daughter's seat, and Kristen was given 
someone elses closer to the front.

While reading Delta's magazine, I saw an ad for Dollar that was a 
good deal.  A Dodge Spirit for $95/week, $19.50 per day, with guaranteed
availability and no advance reservations necessary.  I pulled the ad out 
and presented it to Dollar.  There was a long line at Dollar, but the car 
was fairly large for 2/3's what I was going to pay for an econobox at Alamo, 
where I had a reservation.  The deal is called "October Rates", should
anyone like to take advantage.

We arrived at Dixie Landings between 9:00 and 10:00.  A room with a pool 
view was reserved in August, only because that was all they had.  I would 
have taken any view, as we did not plan to spend much time in the room, and 
no time was alloted to looking out the window!  Well, Disney was running short
of pool views and wanted to keep a few available for those who really care 
about the view, so we were offered a parking lot view for $69, which was $35 
less than the $104 we expected to pay.  The parking lot was visible off to 
the left through some trees, but I would say that the room primarily faced 
trees and another building.  It was a nice room, as was the $308 including 
tax that we saved!!!  After reading about ballistic toilets in the Dixie 
Landings topic, I just had to flush one right away.  Yes, they are all that
they are cracked up to be!!!  Thank goodness we were on the second floor.  
All I can say is that if you have ever been to Typhoon Lagoon and heard the 
whoosh noise before the big wave -> that's what the DL toilets sound like 
when flushed.  The noise did not detract at all from our stay, because I only 
heard other guests flushing a few times during reasonable hours over the 
course of 8 nights.  I do not recommend a first floor room at DL, but would 
certainly recommend DL overall.  Also as mentioned in the DL note, our shower 
plumbing was backwards.  "Cold" setting was really hot, and vice versa.

Kristen wanted to use the pool after seeing it during our tour of the grounds,
but the major pool at DL closed at midnight.  By the time we poked around the 
grounds, midnight was fast approaching.  The smaller pool near our building 
(which turned out to be 6 feet deep, unusually deep at Disney???) did not 
have any hours posted.  We were in that pool until at least 1:30 a.m.

The weather was bad on Sunday morning (but absolutely perfect the rest of the
week) so we went to Epcot because of the many indoor attractions.  I believe 
that Spaceship Earth was struck by lightening as we stood under it - the sound
of thunder was so loud.  The rain stopped within a couple of hours, and we 
enjoyed Epcot very much.  For some reason, the Mexico ride continues to 
intrigue me.  Took a break and returned at night for Illuminations.  Very 
good show.

Monday was spent lazing at DL and Port Orleans pools after touring the 
Grand Floridian and renting a sprite boat.  Recommend the "Nawtin's
Ice" drink at Port Orleans, and the "Miss Melonie's...something something"
at DL.  At some point before the end of Monday, Kristen said that if Delta 
offered to bump us, we should volunteer and return another time.  We all 
decided to stay for a long weekend at the Grand Floridian if Delta offered
to bump us again.

Tuesday was spent at Disney-MGM.  While leaving the hotel, I noticed a
significant parking lot ding on the driver's door that I had not seen before.
It may have been there all along, as we mainly used the car at night, but
my sister said I would have seen it before, as it was quite deep and the
size of a half-dollar.  I was concerned, and thought about the damage all
of the way to Disney-MGM.  The rental company did not notice it in the parking
garage as they gave the car a quick visual inspection upon return.   Disney-MGM
is a small park that has much less to offer than Epcot/Magic Kingdom.  Kristen
and I didn't think much of it, but Margery thought it was okay.  I videotaped
The Great Movie Ride, the Indiana Jones show, and Catastrophe Canyon.  Although
TGMR is dark, it translated to video very well.

Wednesday was spent at Magic Kingdom.  We rode Splash Mountain once around
lunch time, then walked around and did other things, including Thunder 
Mountain and Space Mountain (which I had never been on.)  At about 6:25, we 
were back at Splash Mountain, and there was no line!  Needless to say, we 
rode the thing 3 more times before the park closed at 7:00.  As luck would
have it, we tried all 4 rows during our 4 rides.  The front row does make
a difference during the drop, and is the best location by far.  Much to my
surprize, there are no security bars on the boats.  Passengers are responsible
for holding bars situated fairly high in front of them.  I expect to see 
automatic lap bars installed at some point, as an announcement (the real
voice of a cast member) is made periodically reminding people to hold on.

Thursday was spent at Typhoon Lagoon.  It's really nice, but the crowd was
unbelievable (to be explained later.)  All seats were taken.  Wall to wall
people both in and out of the water.  We still loved the place.  Although
the park was filled, there were virtually no lines at Shark Reef.  I went
through once, Kristen 4 times.  I saw 2-3 sharks, one of which was covered 
with light and dark gray spots.  Video shot from within the sunken ship came 
out better than expected.  I sampled all slides, Kristen went down HC once 
despite broken thumb in a metal brace, after I tested the slide once.  Liked 
the slide, but Humunga Wedgeebunga is a more appropriate and descriptive
name for the attraction.

Friday was Universal day.  It's not as pretty as Disney-MGM (there is
virtually no landscaping that Disney is noted for.)  Wow, Unversal hires 
"real" people rather than 20-30 year old WASPS seen at all Disney attractions!!
The E.T. attraction would benefit from a darker setting.  The scented forest 
waiting area for E.T. was so impressive, I went back a second time just 
to gawk at the waiting area!  There is a special "Tribute to Lucy" underway.  
My sister wanted to see the tribute (just memorabilia) one more time before 
leaving.  As we were getting ready to go, Lucy and Desi lookalikes were 
spotted.  They REALLY looked like Lucy and Desi, and had very friendly 
personalities.  Kristen had her photo taken with them.  They were the 
highlight of my day at Universal - that's how good they were.  I would have 
liked to have taken a video of them, but my camcorder was in a safe deposit 
box at Dixie Landings that day.  Between the photo restrictions and colorless
exteriors that are not nearly as attractive as Disney-MGM's, there really 
wasn't anything else worth taping at Universal.  Despite the "Unofficial 
Guide", we enjoyed the Nickelodean Studios tour very much.  We drove to 
my aunt's house for a visit after Universal.

Saturday was spent at the DL pool, and we went to Magic Kingdom at about 
6:30-7:00.  The park was open until midnight, with light parades at 9:00 
and 11:00, and fireworks at 10:00.  The place was so mobbed I couldn't stand 
it.  Many times, I could not see pavement, there were so many people.  After 
the fireworks, we had to get out of there.  It was so bad, park management 
opened a special escape near the Delta Dreamflight, which we took advantage 
of.  We walked through employee parking behind Main Street, and saw a huge 
pine tree that I assume is Christmas tree 1992.  The park really must have 
been at or beyond capacity.  Fortunately, we had parked at the Grand 
Floridian, as Kristen wanted to rent a sprite boat on our last night.
We had no trouble boarding the resort monorail (which in fact stops at
the TTC, you only need any Disney resort ID to ride) to the Grand Floridian, 
but would have waited forever for the regular line.

The flight back was filled to capacity.  Nevertheless, Delta did not
request volunteers to give up their seats.

The reason some of the parks were so crowded was that there were thousands
of British tourists in town because of a nationwide school "holiday".  
They were in all of the parks, but not at the hotel.  I do not think that 
British tour operators book their clients into Disney owned hotels.  Also, 
Disney conducted the largest golf tournament on the East coast the week were 
there, which explained Disney hotels being at or near capacity.  Aside from 
Saturday night - when all golfers and all tourists and many locals converged 
on the Magic Kingdom - we had an excellent time.  Seven days of constantly 
dealing with large crowds was too much, though.  Next time, I would skip 
Disney-MGM and Universal, and do other things (visit NASA, the beach, etc.)
290.40Trip ReportCHEFS::JENKINSAThu Oct 22 1992 09:1087
    
    
    Who:  Me and various other family members to numerous to mention!
    
    When: Sept 26th - October 10th
    
    Where:  Private house in Kissimmee
    
    
    As we had two weeks to spend in Orlando, and we wanted to 'do'
    everything, we bought 4 day passes for WDW.  I can't remember the dates
    we went in to the parks, but here is a quick resume of what we did.
    
    Magic Kingdom
    
    We arrived at about 10.00 am, the car-park was empty, we could walk to
    the TTC, but decided to get the bus anyway.  Using my Euro-Disney MKC
    card I got discounts for all seven of us for tickets ($13 saving on the
    4 day pass and $18 on the 5 Day Super Pass).
    
    Took the boat across to the main entrance and walked along Main Street
    for a little while.  I noticed how quiet it was (ie, you didn't have to
    look over people's heads all the time to see the Castle!) and suggested
    that we should blitz the rides as soon as we had time.  We all agreed
    and headed towards the Jungle River Cruise - we hopped on without
    waiting and had a good laugh with the driver!  Then onto the Swiss
    Family Robinson Tree House - again, empty!  Then we went to my
    favourite, the Pirates of the Caribbean - no wait again.  As we were
    doing so well, we decided to postpone our lunch until later and carried
    on around the rides - onto Big Thunder (horrendous wait here - about 2
    minutes!!).  Then, we decided to go for Splash Mountain - we expected
    to wait for this ride, but, again, no wait at all.  Lots of TV and
    Radio stations were set up around the outside of Splash Mountain, as it
    was being officially opened the following day (it rained very heavily
    the following day, so it can't have come out well with the TV
    cameras!!).  We stopped for a late lunch, and then went back to do the
    rest of the park at a slightly more relaxed pace than before!! 
    Generally, there were little or no crowds for the whole day - we even
    got a good spot for the parade.  We left at closing time at 7.00 pm.
    
    
    Epcot 
    
    Our first day at Epcot we concentrated on going on the rides and didn't
    really see much of the World Showcase.  We happened to stop in a
    restaurant for a quick drink when there was an announcement made that
    Mickey and his pals were about to come on stage and give us a show. 
    Well we had to stay and watch didn't we??  It was excellent, there was
    Mickey, Minnie, Pluto, Goofy and Chip 'n' Dale.  They all came off the
    stage and went around every table for photos - unforgettable!  We
    decided to eat at the Nine Dragons restaurant in China for dinner that
    evening and stayed for Illuminations.  The next time we went into
    Epcot, it rained most of the afternoon, so our activities were
    curtailed, but we managed to cram in everything we hadn't yet seen.
    
    
    Disney-MGM
    
    Again, no crowds - so no waits for the Great Movie Ride or Star Tours,
    we really did see Disney at it's best - we all had a great day here (we
    didn't find it so hard on the body as the other two parks!).
    
    
    Notes:
    
    On several of our afternoons we escaped the parks for a little while to
    explore the Disney property.  We went into the Polynesian for a look
    and we liked it, but we thought that the Grand Floridian was beautiful!
    We had afternoon tea in the Garden View Room twice as it was so lovely
    and so well presented - definately a must if we go back again!
    
    We had two days of very bad weather - 5.5 inches of rain fell in two
    days.  Other afternoons we had intermittent showers as well.  The one
    day that we had rain in Disney was depressing, and it made us think
    that if Disney in Florida is depresssing in the rain, Euro-Disney are
    really going to have problems, as the weather in Northern France in the
    winter can be pretty horrible - but good luck to them!  We also had a
    tornado watch to cap it all!
    
    All in all, a great time had by all, thanks to all those contributors
    in this file where I got so much information from.
    
    Regards, 
    
    Alison Jenkins
    Reading, UK.
    
290.41Bill & Diane Abrams Sep 1992FPTVX1::ABRAMSYou're just supposed to SIT here?Sat Oct 31 1992 00:09462
WDW Trip Report
Saturday 9/5 to Friday 9/11

Bill and Diane Abrams (from Rochester, New York)
Beach Club Hotel on a 4 night, 5 day World Plan Vacation

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Previous visits as a couple: Sep 1984, Oct 1985, Apr 1986, Mar 1988,
                             Sep 1990 (Contemporary)
Plus misc. visits before we were married, and a business trip I took
                             this February (yes, there's a trip report
                             for that one) 

Author's note:  The views expressed herin are not necessarily those of
the author.  Diane was given editorial authority to ensure I could not
be pinned down on anything. 

This is Part I of our vacation trip report.  We followed our week in
Orlando with a 7-day cruise on Royal Caribbean's Sovereign of the Seas
and Part II is in conference KOALA::CRUISE_TRAVEL if you care to read
it. 

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Introduction

This was a big vacation designed to fly in the face of the recession.
We paid for both our world plan and cruise before we left, leaving us
free to spend money on fun things.  I never knew there could be so
many fun things to spend money on.  Next month's federal reports on
the economy should be up a percent or two based on our spending. 
Advice: if you go on a no holds barred vacation don't be an idiot and
add it up later just to see how much damage you did. Also, don't be a
double idiot and include all the World Plan Meals that you didn't
really spend ANY money on. Really scared me there for a second... 

Our World Plan was a 5 day/4 night plan.  We flew in We stayed at the
Ramada on Jamaican Court off Southern I-Drive for the first two nights
to we could get our off-Disney shopping done, as well as take full
advantage of our World Plan.  Since the plan includes your arrival day
at Disney, we wanted a full day rather than half of our travel day. 
On Friday, we planned to eat our last World Plan meal and drive to 
Miami, where we would stay in a local Hotel for the night before our 
cruise.

First, some summary notes and impressions...

SHOWS & CROWDS: We saw parts of the last performance of the MGM
evening show for the summer (from a distance).  They went to a
weekends only schedule for both MGM and Magic Kingdom shows this week,
so we have to miss seeing them. This is a tradeoff we have always had
to make travelling in the fall.  We enjoy having the parks to
ourselves more than our desire to see the big shows.  The earlier
closing times don't bother us because the lower crowds means we see
everything as much as we want, and enjoy a leisurely dinner.  We were
fooled by a late labor day this year, however, as several states had
not started school yet. Crowds were still moderate on Monday and
Tuesday, and dropped off steadily until they were very light on
Friday. 

WEATHER:  Only rained a bit on two or three afternoons.  Cool 
lightning.  Makes other people leave the parks.  Most of the time it 
was hot, hot, hot (Everybody now!)  It seemed especially nasty since 
we had no summer in the northeast.  Back home the average daily 
temperature for the summer was 65 degrees.  It was 89 to 92 in Florida 
but it seemed like 98 to 99!

ATTRACTIONS:  Splash Mountain was operating but experiencing 
occaisional timing problems.  We once were standing on the bridge 
watching the splashees and heard loduspeakers throughout the 
attraction warn everyone to "Stand clear of the animation" as it would 
be starting shortly.  I once got hit while being pulled up by the 
"splash" from the downhill log going the other way... watch for a few
minutes from the bridge and you'll know what I mean.  It's a soaker,
and you haven't even started the ride!  Carousel of Progress was 
closed both days we were in the MK.  Too bad, I wanted to get some last 
pictures. 

HOTELS:  The Beach Club Resort was all I expected it to be.  First 
class, much more personal and cozy than the Contemporary (where we 
stayed last time) and not formal or stuffy (like the Floridian seems 
to me. But Mike -- we need the Floridian because Narcoosee's is there.)

LINES:  We checked the queue time for most lines.  We noticed that
the left side of  dual line was faster most of the time, but in a 
specific sequence:  It was faster on the first, second, fourth, and 
sixth times, and so on.  This was true of all dual line attractions as 
long as the left line was open.  Line scientists may record this
information now.

Just kidding about the lines thing.  Actually, left lines were 
not open in most cases, so they were infinitely long if you chose to 
wait in them.  One thing to note:  Splash Mountain opens up various 
parts of their lines, and they let the line stretch out into the 
street rather than open extra queueing space.  Even if the line is out 
into the street, it could be only a 15 minute wait.  Ask someone 
coming off.  The left line was ALWAYS faster here.

WORLD PLAN COSTS:  Going on the World Plan was fun and self-indulgent. 
Here's a synopsis of our spending on meals.  For comparison, the 
vacation Kingdom plan, with hotel and admission but only a couple of 
meals would have been $1294.  The World Plan was $1816, a difference 
of $522.  So what did we use our Gold Key card for, and what did we 
spend that actually cost us $522?  Here it is:

     Breakfast      29.14    16.43   29.14   29.14   29.14
     Lunch          42.80   163.84!  74.82   51.38   37.48
     Dinner         85.55    41.00  120.44  173.28!  
     Pleasure Is.   21.90
     Typhoon Lag.                    41.34
     Boats                                   44.00

     Total:  $1810.82, which cost us $522, Bonus:  $508.

We'd never spend like that on meals without a plan like this.  But it 
was fun.  Our plane fare was taken care of by USAir's frequent flier 
program.  We spent $245 for rental car and gas for the week... no good 
deals here. I rent with AVIS on corporate rates because adding the 
loss damage waiver to the cheaper rates ends up being just as much 
anyway.


And now for the hour by hour, day by day, do wa, do wa....

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Saturday September 5

Flew USAir (on two frequent flier tickets) from Rochester to Orlando
via Newark.  Smooth and uneventful.  I reserved my AVIS car with my
preferred express number so I could bypass the long counter lines.  We
got to the booth and were told to go back inside because there was a
problem with my credit card.  I have the worst luck with car rentals
in Orlando.  Last time the car had been cancelled on us.  So back
inside (it's a long walk!) and in line.  Luckily it was only a 10
minute line.  The man looks it up, swipes my credit card, and hands me
all the paperwork.  "No problem," he says. Hmmph. 

Got an upgrade to full size for my trouble, though.  A blue Lumina.
Suggestion: Don't accept a white rental car if you want to find it
once you've parked it. 

Our plan was to go straight to Kennedy Space Center (A good use of a
half day after arrival, since you're a third of the way there
already.) I wanted Diane to see the new IMAX film "The Blue Planet"
but it only shows at 9:55a and 6:15p which didn't fit our schedule...
so we drove back to Orlando to shop and decided to return tomorrow
which was to be our free day. 

Went shopping and had lunch at the Mercado on Southern International
Drive (I-drive), and at the Belz factory outlets at the North end of
I-Drive.  Lunch was at Fat Tuesday's in the Mercado.  We don't have 
then up North.  Love those Dacquiris.  They have a ton of flavors and 
they bring you samples to try.  Some are real strong.  One little sip 
makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

We checked in at the Ramada.  It's a smaller hotel with reasonable
rooms and a very nice pool area. There's a bar and grill at the pool
which made it a very nice relaxing area.  The AAA club rate including
a decent buffet breakfast was only $60 per night for a double room. 

In the evening we drove to the new Disney resorts so Diane could see
them for the first time.  We walked around Port Orleans, Dixie
Landings, and the Beach Club.  We had dinner in Port Orleans' food
court.  An evening is a good time to do such a stroll. 

I-DRIVE NOTE: We thought we'd try it there for our first two nights 
since it would be convenient to shopping and driving for our first two 
days.  To quote my favorite comic strip character:  Ack. Mbthhptt!
Almost every time we had to drive out I had to clear the hairball I 
got from the stress of trying to get into traffic.  Even the southern 
part below Sand Lake Drive, which is a divided 4 lane with lots of 
turning lanes was difficult from the sheer volume of traffic.  It 
doesn't help that the convention center is just a bit further south.


Sunday September 6

Breakfast at the Ramada Buffet.  Off to NASA again.  Saw "The Blue
Planet" (PLUG: My favorite IMAX film right now -- go see it!)  Went on
the bus tour. Remembered why I hadn't been on it in quite a few years.
 Hot, cramped, and not too much to see. A bunch of old spacecraft and
a poor, tired, little show of an Apollo launch.  They should just buy
the remains of "Mission to Mars."  Anyway, go to the space center, but
if you don't want to spend the 2 hours and $$$ for the bus tour, in my
opinion you're not missing much.  Even if there's a shuttle on the pad
(there was) it's covered by the gantry shield so you can't see
anything but a lot of structural steel.  I love the big mockup of the
shuttle in the parking lot. 

Returned to the Orlando area for lunch.  Went to Hooters on Kirkman 
Drive just about 1 mile north of Sand Lake Road.  Went there because 
Diane wanted to know what all the hubub was about. It was football 
time and they were at their "best."  You guys know what I mean.  You 
gals make your guys take you there, then you can forbid them to ever 
go back.  

It was late afternoon and noticed the Wet 'n Wild park was almost 
empty and it was after 5pm (half price admission) so we decided to go 
ahead.  It rained part of the time but I love water slides so I had a 
good time anyway.

We made a grocery run to Goodings and had some stuff we found there 
for dinner.  I will try to find the real grocery stores in the future 
too.  It's getting too touristy for me.


Monday September 7

Checked out of the Ramada, grabbed a cup of coffee and went straight 
to the Beach Club for early check-in.  Our room is ready!  It's #3559 
on the end of the next to last wing.  From our window we look out on 
the lagoon, down to the left is the quiet pool. Nice view of MGM 
Studios on the horizon.  We were unpacked and in Disney mode by 9:30am!

Had breakfast at the character buffet at Cape May Cafe.  It's a 
reasonable breakfast, but try to get stuff when it's fresh and being 
restocked on the buffet.  Walked into EPCOT and headed counter 
clockwise to see a few things before having lunch. Lunch in the 
Biergarten in Germany was very good.  Good selection of food.  I liked 
the potato pancakes especially.  You sit at tables of 8, so if you're 
a small group you'll be with others.  The decor and lighting is very 
attractive.  Someday we must go for dinner to see the singing.

As we headed back to the Beach Club a 10 minute monsoon waylaid us in 
Japan.  Back at the hotel, we made our first entry into Stormalong Bay.
Wow, cool, far out, what a great place.  I spent a lot of time in 
these pools!  The "shipwreck" that decorates the bay has a "broken 
mast" which is actually a water slide... as good as any in the water 
parks.  The pools are excellent:  Mostly sandy bottomed, but fresh 
water.  There's a mini whirlpool, with a strong circular current.  
There's a bubbling pool, and a "lazy river" style waterway, but it 
becomes quite deep (up to 9 feet) so you need to be a strong swimmer.  
There's a buoy in one part.  You walk toward it and see if has "
Sinking Sand" stenciled on it.  When you step next to it, you sink a 
foot deep, suddenly, into the sand.  There's a bunch of water jets 
below the sand, floating the layer of sand above them, so you sink 
right down when you step on it.  There's also a shallow part for sand 
castle building.  Several jacuzzis are around the grounds, and they 
keep the temperature of then hot! hot! hot!  Whoops, it's time to go 
for dinner.

Headed to Pleasure Island to meet Ellen and Ted Doyle for dinner at 
Porto Bello.  It was a great meal and the new friends even better. 
(I'm sorry to see Ellen leaving Digital!)  Then we spent the evening 
at Pleasure Island with them.  Saw the comedy show (it doesn't change 
much over five years!), spent a couple of hours hobnobbing in the 
Adventurer's Club, and saw the Happy New Year street show.

    OPINION:  They've really ruined the street show as compared to
    how it was a couple of years ago.  The show takes places ONLY on
    the stage at the top of the street, with a bank of TV monitors
    in the lower street section.  It's also much shorter than it used
    to be.  It used to take place at both ends, with dancers going up
    and down the street, and it got everyone to start a massive 
    street party...everyone dancing, and it lasted for hours.  It's
    a real shame it's not like that any longer.

Tuesday September 8

Headed to the Magic Kingdom for early admission.  Went on Space 
Mountain, and all the Fantasyland stuff with no lines (except 20,000 
leagues, which does not open early.) At 9am, everyone masses at the 
edges of Fantasyland, and when the signal is given to "walk carefully 
to your first destination," everbody RUNS RUNS RUNS RUNS RUNS RUNS
full tilt to Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Railroad.  Unless you go 
with the derby, there is no way you can get on these rides before the 
line forms.  In fact, wait about 30 minutes and the line will be 
shorter before it grows long in late morning.  

Went to Crystal Palace for breakfast.  On the World Plan, you can take 
one of the meal platters, and add a few extras it's still all covered.
They seemed totally unprepared for the crowds that morning.  In the 
past it has been a good place to get a reasonably good meal quickly.  
We waited in line for over 30 minutes, and the line grew longer still 
behind us.  It stayed that way all morning until lunch time.

We then saw our favorites, including the Haunted Mansion, Pirates of
the Caribbean, Country Bear, and Tom Sawyer's Island. 

Went to our favorite restaurant in all of the World for lunch:
Narcoosee's at the Grand Floridian.  Had a very funny waitress
(Jeanne). Had a huge lunch.  At one point, Diane exclaims "I have four
drinks in front of me!"  She had water, a virgin strawberry dacquiri,
coffee, and iced tea (try their iced tea, it's great!) Told our
waitress we'd be back for our anniversary dinner on Thursday.  At the
table next to us were two young girls (12 year olds) whose family was
on the World Plan also. They had been turned loose with their resort
ids and meal cards for the day, and were enjoying 2 1/2 pound lobster 
lunches that actually cost more than the meals we racked up! 

After lunch we did a little shopping and returned to the hotel for 
swimming in those fabulous pools.  For dinner we had the clambake 
buffet in Cape May in the hotel.  I know you New Englanders aren't 
impressed by this meal too much, but where I am there's no such thing 
as fresh seafood, and Red Lobster is the ONLY seafood restaurant.  So 
anyplace I can eat all the fresh clams I want ranks pretty high. I 
stuffed myself reeeeeeeeeeeaal goooooooooood.  The ribs and garlic 
blue crabs were good too.  We overheard a waiter talking about the 
seasons and crowds and how people from different countries arrive at 
different times of the year.  I casually asked, "Is there any type 
group that you dread the most?"  His unqualified, unprompted answer:
"The Brazilian tour groups!"

Went swimming in the evening.  Stormalong Bay is open till 10pm.  When 
it closes, the "quiet" pools become very, very noisy and full of kids,
until after midnight.


Wednesday September 9

Breakfast at Cape May.  Learned how to tell Chip and Dale apart.  Can 
you?  Answer:  Chip has a "chocolate chip nose" but Dale has a big 
brown nose.  Also Chip has two teeth together, Dale's are spaced, and 
Chip has eyebrows, while Dale has eyelids.

Went back into EPCOT.  Watched the weather channel to see if 
everything was quiet around us (no more hurricanes....) You can find 
it on the TVs in the Electronic Forum at the end of Communicore East.

Saw more of our favorites around EPCOT, and spent some time in 
Communicore.  I like thinking up questions to ask EPCOT Outreach.  For 
example:

   What is the distance of the walk around World Showcase?
         A surprisingly long 1.2 miles!

   What is that silly looking Team Disney Building?
         It is an office building, designed by a Japanese Architect
         hired personnally by Michael Eisner. The funnel on top of
         it is the world's largest working sundial.  The face is in
         the lobby.  From the sky the building looks like a watch.

Saw Star Tours and Cranium Command.  I particulary enjoyed the 
examples of what different brains entitle you to different careers.  
The Chicken brain that the main character is threatened with being 
assigned is show to have a future as a........ politician.

Had lunch at the Nine Dragons.  Good meal. Very authentic food. 
Diane had General Tsao Chicken, I had Lobster in Spicy Sauce.  Both
were excellent.  After lunch saw more of World Showcase.  

For dinner we managed to get reservations at the Coral Reef (at the
Living Seas.)  Even in the off season, these were hard to get.  Plan
ahead as far as possible.  They have few tables for two that they give
advance reservations for.  This was a long meal.  We were seated at
7:05pm and left at 8:50.  We were seated in the back row so we
couldn't really see the fish very well.  I had Dover Sole, Diane had
Surf & Turf.  I had to see why a simple whitefish was so expensive...
it's flown fresh daily from Great Britain and deboned at the table by
the waitress.  But it did taste very good.  For dessert: Mango
cheesecake, and a White Chocolate seashell with strawberries. There's
another dessert that comes with a chocolate Mickey Mouse hat! Did I
mention the butter?  Little molded Mickey Mouses.  Kids (me included)
delighted in chopping off Mickey's limbs to butter their bread. 

Watched Illuminations as we walked back to the hotel. Did a little 
laundry (but it closes at 10pm, and I had to talk them into leaving it 
open for me.)  A little swimming ended the evening.


Thursday September 10

Headed for the Magic Kingdom to finish it off.  Did Big Thunder, The 
Haunted Mansion, the sky ride, Wedway, etc....  One last look at the 
Mission to Mars... yes, good riddance.  The Carousel of Progress was 
closed, and it looked like for good.  Too bad, I liked that one.

Late morning we headed to the Contemporary to do a little boating.  We 
took out a pair of water sprites.  I've never done it before.  It's a 
little expensive, but it's included on the World Plan.  It was lots of 
fun, I must say.  You can cover a lot of ground in a hour.  I went 
around Bay Lake twice and through the canal to Seven Seas Lagoon and 
went once around there.  Took pictures of everything from the water.  
You don't get wet, by the way.  But we locked up things we were 
carrying in a locker just to be safe.

Took a bus to MGM and went straight to Mama Melrose's for lunch. This
whole area is new since I was last here.  Also new is MuppetVision
3d/4d, and the studio showcase, and Voyage of the Little Mermaid. 
There's a lot to keep you at MGM now!  [Diane says: There always was
in my opinion.] Don't miss MuppetVision or Little Mermaid-- they are
innovation and awesome. Oh yes, lunch was quite good at Mama
Melrose's. 

As we left Star Tours heading for The Voyage of the Little Mermaid, it 
started to sprinkle.  Then it started to rain.  We quicked our step so 
that we could be near shelter... as we walked, the background music 
faded into "Singing in the Rain" ... nice touch.   Now the rain is 
soaking.  We run into the queue area for Little Mermaid and the skies 
opened up... and did they ever.  We got a couple of inches of rain in 
the next half hour until we were admitted to the show.  The palms were 
leaning wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy over from the wind-driven rain.  While we 
watched the storm, a brave young lad races out into the street, head 
down to see where he's going... he reaches the other side of the empty 
square.. stops, and, takes a drink from a water fountain.  Then he 
races back through the rains.  Funny, funny, stuff.

When we came out of the show the rain was done.  We took the boat back 
to the Yacht Club (you must show a resort ID on this boat.)  Drove to 
the Grand Floridian for our 9th Anniversary Dinner at Narcoosee's. We 
asked to be seated in Jeanne's section...we were kept waiting but 
Jeanne came out to get us.  Dinner was excellent... really racked up 
the World Plan bill on this one!  As we're enjoying dinner, the 
Electric Water Pageant paraded out!  I've never seen it before.  
Jeanne topped off the dinner by presented us with a cake that we 
couldn't eat since we had dessert, but she wrapped it up for us... in 
aluminum foil, shaped up like mickey mouse ears.  What a sight we were 
carring it through the lobbies of the Grand Floridian and the Beach 
Club!  A late swim and walk finished the day.


Friday September 11

Last day at Disney.  Up a little late, breakfast at Cape May, and 
check out.  A last turn around world showcase.  Saw Impressions du 
France, my personal favorite of the movies.  Had lunch in Le Cellier 
at Canada.  Even though it's cafeteria style, you can still rack up a 
good pricey meal. We had a ribs special that was great.

Next we went to the post office to mail home a bunch of stuff since 
the next part of our vacation is a cruise and we didn't want to lug it 
all along, expecially the Beauty and the Beast Print from our World 
Plan.    It only cost $20 for boxes, packing tape, and postage.  It 
got home about the same time we did a week later.

Last stop: A tour of the Disney Vacation Club.  I have been 
considering the program but was put off by the large number of points 
for the miminum investment.  Since we travel in the off season, I felt 
it would be a waste of points.  We learned much more about the program 
that makes me think more seriously about it:

    - you can bank and borrow points for/from the following year
    - you can exchange points for stays in the other hotels (limited
      program, like the RCI exchange program.)
    - The larger accomodations are very nice.

Plus we're thinking it would be a good way to bring the rest of our 
extended families on a world-class Disney vacation without needing to 
save all year to go.  Since we've vacationed at Disney more than once 
every two years in the past, we will probably join.

We were going to have our final world plan dinner, but had a 4 hour 
drive ahead of us to Miami.  So we decided to get a earlier start and 
grab some fast food along the way.  Driving the dark long Florida 
Turnpike on a full Disney meal seemed like a foolish thing to do.

So we drove off as the sun set and waved good bye to the World.  Our 
vacation wasn't over, though.

We arrived at a Miami hotel that evening, and the next morning, 
boarded Royal Caribbean's Sovereign of the Seas for a 7 day cruise to 
St. Thomas, San Juan, and Coco Cay, an island in the Bahamas.  But 
that's another story, one you can find in a few days in the notes 
conferences KOALA::CRUISE_TRAVEL ... 

So, m  i  c  you real soon!


Bill & Diane Abrams
290.42Finished - Now I can go again!!WOTVAX::BATTYDer machinen goin' Floomy Floomy!Wed Nov 04 1992 16:57504
290.43Kappler's on OctoberVOGON::KAPPLERMiss Lilly kissed me!Mon Dec 21 1992 08:20137
This is the trip report for the Kappler gang. Before I start I'd like to say a
very, very sincere thank-you to all the people who contributed information, in
this conference and direct to me , that allowed me to do so much up fornt
planning and ensure we got the best out of our time (I hope Claude is still
around to read this. Best wishes Claude.) 

>>>This trip report is incomplete, and due to my departure cannot be completed
so is submitted as is. Enjoy & farewell to you all>>>

This report does not cover in detail our pre-WDW activities, and it sometimes
criticises things we found. If this may offend anyone, please press Next
Unseen now......... 



The Party: John & Marilyn Kappler, their children Phillip (6) and Kenneth (9
but really 10 (-:), my other son John (21) and Marilyn's parents (the
out-laws) Edna and Donald. 7 in total. 

Outward Travel: We flew from London Gatwick to St. Louis on Friday 9th Oct. We
stayed overnight at the Holiday Inn after rejecting the originally booked
economy accomodation. We flew on to Orlando on Sat. 10th October. All flights
were courtesy of TWAs FFB program. 

The first week we stayed at a rented property in Kissimee, which was
excellent. This week was spent doing all the Orlando non-WDW attractions such
as Universal Studios, Sea World, Wet 'n Wild and a trip to Cape Canaveral in
our rental mini-van. 

The following five days were spent in a beach front apartment on the Gulf
Coast at Indian Shores. This was for resting and only included incidental
attractions such as Busch Gardens & Parasailing! 



We arrived at Walt Disney World at 11am on Thursday 22nd October. It took
nearly an hour to register at Fort Wilderness for our Trailer Homes (2) and Be
Our Guest Passes. We had decided to throw caution to the winds and book the
7nights/8days pass although we were leaving early in the morning of our last
day. The accomodation wasn't ready (didn't think it would be) so we parked in
the FW lot and grabbed the first bus to Pioneer Hall (it turned out to be the
River Country bus which does the trip non-stop). 

We went to the jetty and the MK launch was just arriving so we set off for the
Magic Kingdom. We spent about three hours there, managing to do Splash and
Thunder Mountains once each, plus Pirates and Haunted, Tiki Birds and various
others, and watch the 3 o'clock parade. We returned to FW via Monorail (up
front!), Blue bus and FW local bus. 

The evening was spent doing a little shopping at the campground store,
rearranging the furniture in the trailers and settling in. Incidentally,
although the trailers can be booked for 4-6 people, if you book for 4 or less,
you don't get one with the extra two bunk beds in. We solved this hiccup by
cooking, eating and socialising in one of the trailers, which the out-laws
slept in, and the other five of us sleeping in the other trailer, with the two
smaller kids taking turns on the couch. 

Friday was Magic Kingdom In Ernest Day. We travelled there by FW bus, regular
bus and Monorail. It was early on we discovered the earth shattering news that
Space Mountain was closed for refurbishment (to be reopened in mid-November).
Kenneth (and I) were devastated!! However we rode the people mover which
afforded the spectacle of Space Mountain with the service lights on (that
track twists and turns like you'd never believe!). There were service
personnel actively welding sections of structure and track in several places.
This day was enlivened by a downpour (the second of our vacation). This and
the combination of the 3 o'clock parade enable the more dedicated of us to do
Splash and Thunder Mountains several times without queueing!!  We left the
park slightly before closing time, and made one of our only two trips outside
WDW for some serious grocery shopping. 

Saturday was spent at Disney-MGM. This was a three bus trip but more of that
later. After Universal I was expecting more of the same, but in my view many
of the Disney things had the edge. The backlot tour, even without Catastrophe
Canyon was more detailed, the Indian Jones Stunt Spectacular was indeed
spectacular. Star Tours was on a par with Back to the Future at US, but the
one that made me chuckle most was the Muppet 3-D show. The combination of
muppets, 3D, cartoon characters and theatre special effects was great. The
only downside of the day was the closure of Mama Melroses, forcing us to eat
in the Drive-in Restaurant where the food was mediocre, and expensive. I'm 
still trying to find a cuddly Jessica to buy......

From there we bus and monorailed to MK, for the spectro-magic parade and
fireworks. The parade was great but we found ourselves cut-off between the
Hall of Presidents and Fantasy Land which meant the kids didn't quite get the
best view. It was still spectacular! Just before the parade the kids and my
son had gone to the restrooms in Frontier Land, and the cast members wouldn't
let them back across the street, or gain entry from Fantasy Land. My son had
to talk his way into the area and leave the kids at the barrier by the Castle,
and I then had to go back and convince two cast members to let my kids rejoin
us. This was a needless hassle at the end of a long day with tired kids. After
the parade we took up position in front of the Castle to see Tinkerbelle on
the advice of a cast member. Unfortunately what he forget to mention was that
from that position you can't see anything of the fireworks as they are
directly behind the castle! We quickly repositioned and caught the end of the
display. Home to FW by boat and bus as quickly as possible. 

Sunday started with laundry! In the morning Marilyn, John & I made extensive
use of the FW laundromat facility whilst the out-laws took the kids to River
Country. After lunch we made for Epcot (2 bus + Monorail). We started with 
Spaceship Earth and then worked our way anti-clockwise round. We managed most 
of the rides and the first few of the Country pavilions before we returned to 
the edge of the lake for the Firework/Laser/Light/Sound display. This was 
excellent and so well synchronised. We returned to FW tired but full of the 
spectacle!

On Monday, John took off for the day (to visit an Air-Force Base!) and the 
rest of us took a gamble on the fog clearing and bussed it to Typhoon Lagoon. 
Sure enough, the weather cleared and we had a great time. For me there was one 
dissappointment, which was the amount of litter in the sand. Numerous 
cigarette butts and the occasional used band-aid definitely let down the 
Disney magic. Still the kids found $1.21 in odd coins so they were happy. 
Kenneth and I did all the slides, including Humunga-Kowabunga. I was fairly 
daunted by this until I did it, but afterwards I wouldn't bother again. It's 
over too quickly, bruised me, and the longer twist and turn slides are much 
more exciting, especially in the tubes when you end up going backwards!

The wave pool roller is a-m-a-z-i-n-g! Six foot of water thundering down on 
you is great fun, and to relax, Castaway Creek is very relaxing. Highlight of 
the day for Kenneth & I was when one of the cast members at the bottom of tube 
slide asked us to check the name of the cast member at the top. If it was the 
right person, we had to splash her from him! We carried this out dutyfully and 
excused ourselves by saying he'd told us to do it! This resulted in another 
descent backwards. Those cast members can be vindictive sometimes......

We stayed till closing and then visited the Disney Marketplace on our way back 
to FW, for the obligatory shopping of Disneyana.......

Tuesday was the day to finish Epcot. Another great day, with the Norewegian 
log ride being memorable (I'd never gone backwards on a log ride before!).
The finale was the compute centre visit where we were shown another glimpse of 
the intricacies of Space Mountain and it's computer control.

In the evening, Marilyn and I went to Pleasure Island. We visited the Comedy 
Warehouse, the Neon Armadillo and the Adventurers Club. All good entertainment 
and New Years Eve came too quickly for us at 11pm.

    
290.44addendumVOGON::KAPPLERMiss Lilly kissed me!Wed Dec 23 1992 14:1722
    Addendum to .43
    
    Last day was spent at MK, with an early start, and as you may have
    guessed the Horseshoe Review. To everyone's surprise, and my son's
    embarassment, Miss Lilly singled me out for the part where she's "looking
    for a man", with the end result of a wonderful lipstick impression on
    the top (shiny part) of my head, with strict instruction not to wipe it
    off till I'd left the park!
    
    One last comment. We found the bus service excellent. Rarely crowded,
    anmd many of the drivers were good entertainers in their own right,
    particularly in the FW area. We only used our own transport twice
    during the week, both times to go off-world for shopping. But it does
    help to study the routes and schedule guide.
    
    We also managed several rides up-front in the monorail, although the
    last of these meant we had to let 4 or 5 trains go before we could be
    accomodated. Even so, it was worth it.
    
    Bye to all,
    
    JohnK
290.45X-mas day at Disney-MGMESKIMO::ROBROSEWed Dec 30 1992 12:3875
290.46A few days after Christmas at Disney-MGM19568::EPPESI'm not making this up, you knowWed Dec 30 1992 15:3057
My Spouse Equivalent and I went to Disney-MGM Studios on Dec. 28, 1992.  We
were staying with his parents in Sebring, Florida, and drove up for the day
(about an hour and a half drive).  We had 2 days left on our 4-day passports
from last year; we visited Disney-MGM exactly one year from the day we last
visited Walt Disney World (Magic Kingdom and EPCOT last year, though).

We had been in Florida since Dec. 23, and it was warm and sunny every day we
were there - until we went to WDW, of course.  The day started out cool and
foggy; weather reports on the radio claimed the fog would lift and the temp
would get to 78, but it never did.  It was cool (60s) and gray the entire day.
But at least it didn't rain...

We got to Disney-MGM about 9:15.  Neither of us had been there before.  Since I
wasn't sure we were going to make it there this trip, I neglected to bone up on
it with tidbits from this conference (tsk!); however, I did remember reading
somewhere (here or in Birnbaum) that The Great Movie Ride is the first thing
you should head for upon arriving in the morning, so that's what we did.  We
had about a 20-minute wait, not too bad.  Waits for most attractions averaged
20-30 minutes for us; I guess it was more crowded than it was on Christmas Day,
judging from the report in the previous reply.

The attractions/shows we did NOT see were: Superstar Television, The Little
Mermaid Show, the Beauty and the Beast Show, and Star Tours (which we've been
on in Disneyland; it had a huge line, so we opted to skip it).  Oh, and Sorcery
in the Sky - it was just too cold and we were too tired to hang around for it.
I'm not sure how well it would've looked in the clouds and fog, which was 
getting lower by that time.

My favorite attraction was Muppet Vision 3D.  Just reading the posters and
"experiments" while waiting in line (and looking at the painted pipes, lights,
etc.) was worth it, almost... :-)

The tour through the animation studio was neat.  We got there late-ish, around
5:30, and I wasn't sure whether anyone would still be working, but there were
still a couple of animators and inkers at work.  The Robin Williams/Walter
Cronkite running commentary is really cute.  They are working on post-production
(I think that's what they said) of "The Lion King," and pre-production of
"Pocahontas."

At the end of the Special Effects tour (forget its name - Magic something), we
saw previews of two upcoming releases, about which I had heard nothing 
previously.  One is called "Swing Kids" and is set in Germany in 1939.  It
appears to be about the rise of Nazism crushing all forms of jazz/swing/etc.
The only actors I recognized were Barbara Hershey and Kenneth Branagh (if *he's*
in it, it's got to be good!).  The other preview was of a remake of "The
Incredible Journey," the story of 2 dogs and a cat who travel across Canada to
be reunited with their family, who has moved away.  Its title is "Homeward
Bound: The Incredible Journey."  It is live-action, with real animals.  
Dee Wallace Stone was the only actor (human, that is :-) ) I recognized, but
of course most of it focused on the animals.

We had an excellent, albeit pricey, dinner at The Brown Derby.

We enjoyed Disney-MGM, but don't plan to visit it again anytime soon.  EPCOT
remains our favorite WDW theme park.

							-- Nina