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Conference koolit::disney

Title:The Disneyphile's Disney File
Notice:This Conference can show you The World
Moderator:DONVAN::SCOPA.zko.dec.com::manana::eppes
Created:Thu Feb 23 1989
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:536
Total number of notes:19961

90.0. "WDW/EPCOT Travel Agent (?)" by GEMVAX::WRIGHT () Mon May 01 1989 20:27

    Does anyone know of a travel agency/agent in the
    maynard/Sudbury/Marlboro area that is particularly knowledgable
    of EPCOT/WDW?  
    
    We went last year (and loved it!), but I found that it was very
    difficult to find a travel agent who knew much about the place (much
    to my surprise).
    
    Also - has anyone had good luck making last minute plans (by last
    minute, I mean 3 weeks or so before you went).  We would like togo
    toward the end of this month - IF we could get a room in the park
    (The Caribbean Beach Resort sounds perfect - I had never heard of
    it before reading this file).
    
    I would appreciate any information anyone might have - including
    any suggestions for airlines, packages, etc. (we would like to go
    for about 4 or 5 days).  As we have been before, we know pretty
    much how to approach the place once we get there - where to eat,
    etc.
    
    Thanks!
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90.1INDMKT::GOLDBERGLen GoldbergMon May 01 1989 20:4518
90.2No problem!EUCLID::OWENYou Are the EverythingTue May 02 1989 11:3817
    Last minute plans to go to WDW can usually be made on Sunday.  This
    is because Sunday is the day that most people cancel their
    reservations.   You may log about a dozen calls to Florida, but
    usually this method will work.
    
    We made our reservations 2 weeks before we left.  If you want to
    stay on WDW property, take anything you can get.  Once you are a
    resort guest, you shouldn't have much problem changing you reservation
    to where you really want to stay, or adding more nights.  But it
    may take a few calls to WDW to do it.
    
    One more thing, don't tell anyone about this method.  8^)  We don't
    want the whole world knowing our secrets, do we?
    
    Good Luck
    
    Steve O
90.3ATE012::CLAUDEClaude G. BerubeTue May 02 1989 11:5526
rep to <<< Note 90.0 by GEMVAX::WRIGHT >>>

>    Does anyone know of a travel agency/agent in the
>    maynard/Sudbury/Marlboro area that is particularly knowledgable
>    of EPCOT/WDW?  

    Well after  dealing with travel agents for my Honemoon trip to WDW area
    back in '77,  the  only agency I've found to be knowledgeable on WDW is
    the Magic Kingdom Club  travel  Center  and  it  affiliated public side
    Walt  Disney World Travel Center (sp?) which  was  mention  in  another
    note.
    
    Basicly when dealing with a Disney vacation  I found that if staying on
    site, that after getting your confirmed lodging reservations,  you  can
    have the MKC take care of your flight and car reservations as well (Did
    this in '84 and '87).  Otherwise if your are  staying  off  site  it is
    better to do one of 2 things go the package route thru Crimson and such
    since  they  have  done everything for you or just book everything your
    self, since agencies seem to have a hard time or just don't want to get
    into  specialized vacation plans to Orlando.    In  '82  after  getting
    frustrated going the travel agency route and  since  I  was staying off
    site, I decided to do all the booking  myself,  since  at  the  time by
    doing alot of research I was able to do better than the package deal on
    the air/room/car. 

    Claude
90.4Wishing Upon A Star...GEMVAX::WRIGHTTue May 02 1989 12:4717
    Thanks for the quick replies (as time IS a factor here!).
    
    Those were some interesting facts - you're right - NO WONDER they
    don't go out of their way to sell Disney when they don't get commissons
    (of course, Disney doesn't require it at 80% occupancy!).  
    
    I will go with the Sunday cancellation/calling directly approach
    (and don't worry, I won't divulge the secret of this method :) 
    By the way, I'm assuming that I call the resorts/airlines directly
    (?)  
    
    I imagine that the opening of the MGM park won't help matters much
    - and I must confess, it's what inspired us to think about going
    again - with our vacation time only three weeks away.  There's just
    something about that place....
    
    --Katie
90.5ATE012::CLAUDEClaude G. BerubeTue May 02 1989 13:0715
>    By the way, I'm assuming that I call the resorts/airlines directly
>    (?)  
    
    If  your  planning on staying at WDW then call the MKC # listed in  2.*
    (since  they'll be able to tell you whats available on site) , and have
    your MKC  chapter # ready and if you get confirmed lodging let them get
    your plane and car reservations as well, otherwise you assume right.
    
    BTW if staying on site, the operator will take the info for air and car
    reservation and forward this info to another operator trained  in  this
    aspect, and he/she will return a call to you later within  a  day  or 2
    and  work  this aspect of the trip with you (at least this  is  how  it
    worked for me)

    Claude
90.6QuestionRVAX::SMITHTue May 02 1989 13:3112
    In the past, I have either gone to WDW on a package deal, or booked
    everything myself. The thought of letting the MKC take care of flight
    and car reservations sounds great, but what do they do about price?
    
    What I mean is, do they shop around for you for the best price,
    or just take what they get? Do they just get you a non-stop flight
    on the day you request at $350.00 RT, or would they put you on a
    one stop flight for $275.00. Will they get you a Hertz or Avis car
    for their regular weekly rate of $200 (exagerated), or something
    through General for $89.00.
    
    Steve
90.7ATE012::CLAUDEClaude G. BerubeTue May 02 1989 14:2829
rep to <<< Note 90.6 by RVAX::SMITH >>>

>    The thought of letting the MKC take care of flight
>    and car reservations sounds great, but what do they do about price?
    
    Airfare,  the  last  2  trips, they actually shopped for the best price
    available for  the various airlines serving Boston and Manchester NH to
    Orlando.  All  I  specified  was best price from either airport, flight
    could be Non-stop or  1-stop  (same plane, non-connecting) but I didn't
    want any connecting flights (hate to loose the luggage).  She came back
    later and gave me the list  of flight available and their $'s.  I ended
    up flying Peidmont last time for around  $209  round  trip  (1  stop in
    Newark?) from Boston.  Turned out the flight  was  overbooked  and they
    were looking for volunters and giving away a free  rt fare, if I wasn't
    on the World Vacation plan starting that afternoon I would  of gone for
    it,  otherwise I was thinking Disney, and you all know how  that  feels
    ;^).

    Rental Car, Of course they would like to book you on National  (offical
    car rental and all) but on the '84 trip I had them search  for the best
    price  on  a  list  of rental agencies I gave them (Avis, Hertz, Alamo,
    Budget, National, ie.    the  National chains) and ended up with Alamo,
    since I ended up cancelling my airfare and flew People (what a mistake,
    felt like cattle moooo mooo ;^)) and flew to Melbourne (East coast) and
    Alomo was the cheapest from there at the time.    Otherwise on the last
    trip I booke thru National from the Care Care Center,  for  the  last 2
    days of my trip.
    
    Claude
90.8disclaimerATE012::CLAUDEClaude G. BerubeTue May 02 1989 15:257
    Let me  just  add,  that the experiences I listed here were in the past
    and with the  way  Disney has changed procedures for things (ala dinner
    reservation in Epcot) please  call  the  MKC  number etc for the latest
    info on getting them to make Car/Air reservations as well.
    
    Claude
    
90.9800 Number for WDW Travel CenterINDMKT::GOLDBERGLen Goldberg ...198 DaysTue May 02 1989 15:3713
    The MKC Membership Guide lists TWO phone numbers for the Florida
    Travel Center:
                            
              Walt Disney World Accommodations and Vacation
              Plan Reservations: (407) 824-2600
                            
              Premier's Cruise and Walt Disney World Week,
              Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, Delta Airlines,
              Car Rental and Other Airline Reservations:
              (800) 334-4017
    
    So save your pennies for your trip and use the 800 number to book
    your flights cars etc.
90.10Venture Travel for WDWRATTLE::TLAPOINTEWed May 03 1989 12:4914
      I talked to my sister in-law last night, who happens to be a travel
    agent.  She told me that Disney does pay commission (10%) for any
    bookings thru local agencies.  She's booked many trips in the past
    year with no complaints..... If you'd like to contact her, here's
    the details:
                         Venture Travel
                         33 Walnut St
                         Winchendon, MA 01475
                         (508) 297-3084
    
                         ask for Lori Campbell
    
    FYI: Winchendon is only apx. 45 minutes from the Maynard area.
                                                                  
90.11Confirmed Reservations.....GEMVAX::WRIGHTWed May 03 1989 14:0926
    
    Thank you for the information.  However, as it turns out, I did
    a lot of investigating yesterday and I found out that, as you said,
    they now do get a commission - which seems right.
    
    I visited the American Express office that handles Digital's business
    (and personal) travel, and I found them (agent named Susan) to be
    VERY helpful; in fact, she just called me this morning to say that
    she has a confirmed reservation for us (my husband and me) at the
    Carribean Beach Resort - within the timeframe we were hoping for!
    Needless to say, I am very happy.  
    
    We will be there for five nights (17th - 21st of May).  
    
    Looking forward to seeing the MGM park (Time Magazine had a glowing
    two-page review in the lastest issue, by the way) and staying on
    Disney property for the first time (second time to WDW).
    
    Thank's for all the input!
    
    I would love any suggestions re: staying at the Caribbean (I have
    seen the note dovoted to it in this file).
    
    Two weeks and counting.....
    
    --Katie
90.12Error of CommissionINDMKT::GOLDBERGLen Goldberg ...-192Mon May 08 1989 21:1848
    re: .10
    
    I stand corrected.  Apparently Disney does now pay travel agent
    commissions.  My information was old, from several years ago when
    my wife worked as a travel agent, and then for a hotel chain that
    has a property in the Orlando area.
    
    Careful reading of the *1989* version of the Birnbaum guide reveals
    the following:
    
    
                     SHOULD YOU USE A TRAVEL AGENT?
         
         All of sudden, out answer has changed from an
         unqualified "maybe" to an emphatic "probably".  The
         reason for our change of heart is the change in Disney
         commission policy.
         
         Except for the first few months of operation of Walt
         Disney World, the Disney powers-that-be refused to
         pay commissions to travel agents because the Disney-
         owned and operated hotels were functioning at nearly
         100% occupancy - without any bookings from travel
         agents. [This is almost unheard of in the travel
         business - LG]  The situation changed dramatically
         in mid-1988.
         
         With the opening of the Grand Floridian Resort in
         July 1988, the scheduled opening of the Caribbean
         Beach Resort in October 1988, and the construction
         of several other new hotels and villa accommodations,
         the Disney organization now welcomes reservations
         from travel agents - and pays them appropriate
         commission for their bookings.  So there is no reason
         not to use a travel agent; the old agent reluctance
         to book Disney-owned hotels (due to absence of
         compensation is gone, and there is no better source
         of complete details on all the varied package and
         tour options.  What's more, all this information
         is provided at absolutely the right price - free
         - since all travel agent compensation is paid by
         the travel supplier.  In this case that supplier
         may be The Walt Disney Travel Company, Delta Air
         Lines, American Express, and others.

    
    You should still also check out the Magic Kingdom Club packages,
    as I believe these are still not commissionable.
90.13READ THE TRAVEL AGENTS "FINE PRINT"RVAX::SMITHThu May 11 1989 17:528
    Last weekend, Crimson travel had an add in the Sunday paper for
    1 week at WDW. Their price was something like $299.00 for 7 nites
    hotel, airfare, and rental car. Admission to WDW was seperate. They
    were charging $170 for a 4 day passport to MK,EPCOT, and MGM. Does
    this seem like somewhat of a ripoff to anyone??????
    
    Steve
90.14INDMKT::GOLDBERGLen Goldberg...-189Thu May 11 1989 18:5910
90.15are you sure it was just for WDW?WEDOIT::BERUBEClaude G. BerubeThu May 11 1989 19:1313
    re last 2
    
    Are you  sure  the  fine print didn't list Sea World etc as part of the
    price alonf with WDW?
    
    Last time I check into Crimson  (long time ago) the sightseeing package
    included 3 days WDW, 1 day Sea World, 1 day Busch Gardens and someplace
    else (Cypress Gardens?).
    
    Don't forget the Florida Tax  which  is  usually seperate from the $299
    fare and listed in the fine print.
    
    Claude
90.16Passport RipoffUSMFG::GHIGGINSThu May 11 1989 19:147
    
     I have the Crimson package for $299. It includes the airfare and
    accomadations, but no rental car. The childrens price is $199, with
    2 adults. I did not purchase any extras with Crimson, ie attraction
    tickets, side tours. This is where you get ripped off (I think).
    
    George
90.17When in doubt....ask!!!!RVAX::SMITHFri May 12 1989 16:436
    I know the admission tickets didn't include anything else. I called
    and asked. I will call again and ask why they are charging that
    price. Tax was not taken into consideration, however I THINK the
    add said that was included along with transfers, etc.
    
    Steve
90.18Just called backRVAX::SMITHFri May 12 1989 16:5614
    Well, I just called them back and apparently they quote prices
    in the paper, but you have to call and ask all kinds of questions
    to find out what the prices apply too.
    
    The paper said $299 plus $170 for admission tickets. The $299 price
    is for what they call "tour A". The $170 includes Sea World and
    Cypress Gardens but only goes along with "tour B" which is $339,
    not $299. They also said a car is NOT included. That could be my
    mistake. I may still have the paper at home. I'll have to check.
    
    With all the traveling I've done, this doesn't really come as any
    surprise, but it still aggrevates me.
    
    Steve
90.19Good or bad idea?AKOV12::CJACQUESEverything's coming up rosesThu Jan 04 1990 19:459
    I just booked at trip through American Express Travel in Maynard.
    They had a package through Paragon Tours, that is costing us
    $299 for air/car/hotel.  We have to pay for our pass separately.
    We are staying off-site, on International Drive.
    
    Has anyone taken this charter?  Any horror stories.  Please tell
    me now, so there will be no surprises.
    
                                            cj *->
90.20RATTLE::TLAPOINTEMon Jan 08 1990 13:208
    We've gone to WDW thru Paragon before...... nothing really bad to
    report..... where on I-drive are you staying?  We stayed at the Quality
    Inn on I-drive.
    
    Over all we looked at it as cheap week that was worth it.....
    
    Tony
    
90.21AKOV12::CJACQUESEverything's coming up rosesMon Jan 08 1990 16:176
    I haven't received my acknowlegement, and flight info from Paragon
    as yet, but the travel agent did say we would *most likely* be booked
    at the Quality Inn on I-drive.  If they are full, then they will be
    booking us at a similar hotel.
    
                                       cj *->
90.22RATTLE::TLAPOINTETue Jan 09 1990 12:1017
    RE: Quality Inn
    
       This place is not great...... basically clean, nothing fancy, an
    awkward layout for the complex.  I'd give it 1, maybe 1 1/2 stars.
    
       We tried their breakfast buffet the first morning..... wife hated it
    so we didn't try it again.
    
       Also ask for extra towels!!!!! they must think you'll share
    them.....
    
    The Quality Plaza on I-drive looked much better but unfortunately we
    didn't get that one on the strip.... some others on the flight down did
    and I assume they ended up with better accomadations....
    
    Tony
    
90.23QUALITY VS GROSNEVORRHODES::NEWFELLMon Jan 15 1990 19:0520
    Having stayed at both the Quality Inn on I-Drive and the Grosvenor
    at WDW Village I would have to say that both hotels yes are equal.
    We stayed at the Quality Inn our first time down, May 87, I found
    it to be clean, neat and well kept, service was good.  We did eat
    breakfast in the restaurant there and it was nothing to write home
    about, but generally we just showered and slept there in the room 
    so it was good.
    
    Last May 88 we stayed at the Grosvenor at a higher rate and was
    very disappointed in the room and the service.  When we requested
    towels we waited 2 hours to get them and there were only two hand
    towels.  When we complained nothing was done.
    
    So as you can see price does not mean quality.  
    
    This year we were going to go on a cruise but cancelled out and
    are going to the World again, 3rd time in 3 years.  We are staying
    at the Caribbean, so I will let eveyone know how it turns out. 
    Actually, we are leaving 10 weeks from today.  I CAN'T WAIT!
             
90.24DISNEY TRAVEL COMPANY PACKAGEIAMOK::BEALSFri Feb 02 1990 15:4845
    On my recent trip to WDW I booked a package from the WALT DISNEY TRAVEL
    COMPANY via a local travel agent.  We booked a 7 night "RESORT MAGIC"
    plan and added an extra night.  Briefly what this plan included:
    
    		Car rental from NATIONAL, which was easily upgraded
    		to a MINI-VAN
    
    		Eight nights at a WDW resort hotel, we chose CBR (cheapest)
    
    		Unlimited use of WDW transportation system
    
    		Unlimited admission to all 3 parks for 9 days
    
    		2 sets of coupons, each, for lunch at selected
    		restraunts inside the parks
    
    		A coupon for an "Early riser" special which was for a 7:30
    		admission to MK from a special bus that drove right up to 
    		the Main St entrance from CBR, this also included a free
    		character breakfast at the tomorrowland terrace.
    
    Using the travel agent was also a good idea because I added a lot of
    extras to my plan that they took care of for me they were:
    
    		reserving the hoop-de-doo
    
    		reserving to Polynesian luau
    
    		reserving the character breakfast at the empress lilly
    
    		limo to and from Logan from my house
    
    		Air Tickets, (delta non stop to Orlando)
    
    They also watched the Air ticket prices for me.  Back In September I
    paid them 1 check for all expenses listed above, (except for the WDW
    shows).  When I picked up my kit 2 days before we left, the first thing
    they gave me was a refund check for $178.00 due to the reduction in air
    fare.  
    
    Maybe I just lucked out with a good travel agent, but I certainly
    recommend using one.
    
    
                                    Forrest...
90.25Is the price right?\COEM::SCOPAThe MajorMon Feb 05 1990 14:031
    What's this thing costing?
90.26costIAMOK::BEALSMon Feb 05 1990 15:5113
    RE: -1
    
    If you are talking about my note (.24), the cost of the Walt Disney
    Travel Company "RESORT MAGIC" package was $1698.00.  This price was
    four 2 adult, 2 children, 7 night package plus an extra night at CBR, 
    rental car upgraded to a mini-van.  This was the "off-season" price. 
    The On-season price is more but I do not know how much.  The price is
    cheaper if you do not want the car rental, but do want transportation
    to and from the airport.  Also even cheaper if you are driving
    yourself.  I am sure that most travel agencies will have the 1990
    information brochure.
    
                                            Forrest...
90.27NEED THE BEST TRAVEL AGENCYJUPITR::MJUBINVILLESat Mar 02 1991 10:4416
    
    
    Hi,
    
         I will be going to disney and other attractions next february and
    i was wondering who has the best package to go down there, that is
    cheap but get alot for your money. Just looking for air,hotel,car, and
    would like to stay inside disney world.
    
    One more question: When do they start and stop the electric parade?
    I saw it once in april and I went down in May and they didn't have it.
    
    thx,
    
    Mike
    
90.28Try 'em allCOEM::SCOPAMAJORMon Mar 04 1991 16:4610
    Mike,
    
    You really should check all travel agencies out but most people swear
    by Crimson Travel.
    
    As far as the ELP is concerned I believe it doesn't start up on a
    nightly basis until TMK is open until late at night. I think we're
    talking May or June....of course weekends may be different.
    
    Mike
90.29WDW, here we come!KAHALA::PRESTONFri Dec 27 1991 18:0318
    My wife and I have been talking for months about going back to WDW 
    (we went in '87) for a REAL vacation (we haven't gone anywhere but the
    in-law's Winnipesaukee condo since we started having kids). We decided
    that since our finances are still intact after Christmas, we'd try for
    a 5 day package, over a weekend in January, while I'm between semesters 
    at school. We knew it would be a close call with only a few weeks
    notice, but Crimson (now Thomas Cook) was able to put one together for
    us thru Delta  Certified Travel.
    
    I had one MAJOR disappointment this time around with Crimson, and I'm
    not at all sure that we got anywhere near the best price, but it's hard
    to be choosey when you're going in less than three weeks...
    
    I'm going to do a little checking tonight, and get back with a report
    on our experience with Crimson in a later reply to this topic. Stay
    tuned..!
    
    Ed