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Conference abbott::cruise_travel

Title:CRUISE TRAVEL
Moderator:XANADU::FAMULARO
Created:Thu Aug 04 1988
Last Modified:Thu Dec 12 1996
Last Successful Update:Wed Jan 01 1997
Number of topics:562
Total number of notes:2834

456.0. "First time cruise advice needed" by PINION::MCCONNELL () Tue Jul 13 1993 18:49

    I have almost talked my husband into a cruise.  I am only thinking a 3
    or 4 day cruise to see if we will like it.  I do need some advice about
    chosing one.  From everything I have seen here, it would be a very
    restful vacation with good food, sightseeing, and as much/little
    activity as one wants. 
    
    First of all, my husband cannot tolerate the sun. He burns easily. 
    What would be the best time of year to take a cruise in the Caribbean
    given that situation? Winter?
    
    Also, from some of the notes it appears "last minute" reservations can
    be much cheaper.  What are considered last minute?  How much in advance
    should one make their reservation?  Is it better to book well in
    advance and hope that maybe you will be upgraded at no cost or wait?
    
    Any additional information/suggestions greatly appreciated.
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456.1PARVAX::SCHUSTAKWho IS John Galt!?Tue Jul 13 1993 19:5733
    If someone can't tolerate sun, I have to believe the Caribbean at
    almost any time of year wouldn't be toomuch fun.  Some options, tho,
    might be to consider a Bermuda Cruise in late summer (out of NYC). I
    believe that RCCL, Celebrity, and other lines offer 7 day cruises.  I
    did Celebrity Horizon 2 years ago, thought it was very nice, excellent
    value.
    
    Other options could be some of the Canadian Cruises out of a variety of
    New England ports up to Nova Scotia and up th St Laurence. Also,
    Alaskan cruises in summer (which I've wanted to do for YEARS!) would
    seem to fit the bill. I don't think any of these are 3 or 4 days, but
    would be 7 or 10 days instead.
    
    The only 3-4 day cruises tend to be out of Southern Fla to the Bahamas
    (now, that might work, would be sunny, but not too hot in wintertime)
    or out of LA to the Mexican Riviera (don't you love how someone
    re-named Mexico's Pacific Coast).
    
    If you can work the time, and money, and really want to get a feel for
    cruise travel, I'd see what's available to Alaska.
    
    Re waiting to the last minute...I'd have to agree with another recent
    note I read that said in effect, the biggest savings these days tend to
    be booking in advance.  Of course, don't let that discourage you: have
    a travel agency do some legwork, after you decide when & where you'd like 
    to travel, have he/she see what kind of promo/deal a line will offer.
    Compare that to the price you're quoted booking 8 - 10 months in
    advance, and make your decisions.  FWIW tho, the 3 or 4 day cruises
    really aren't agressively discount.
    
    Have fun
    
    Steve
456.2OK if sun sensitiveLEDDEV::CULLISONTue Jul 13 1993 20:1578
    I just made a lengthy reply on an older note that covers some of
    the timing issues about making reservations. Generally I believe that
    what was true one to two years ago, book late get better deal is now
    shifting more to book earlier. Booking late may get a very good deal
    but not any better and very little selection especially for popular
    dates and cruise lines. See note 194.19, it also gives the number
    of a discount agent in NJ, and refers to note 388.14 with other
    numbers.
    
    As far as the sun goes. First the Caribbean is much closer to the
    equator. Because of this the length of days and angle of sun does not change
    as much from season to season, that is why it is warm down there in
    the winter. There is not a lot of difference sun wise from one season
    to another. The winter would provide a little less sun.
    The good news is that cruises are excellent for couples
    like myself where my wife likes to bake in the sun and I like to 
    stay more in the shade. We go up to the pool deck, my wife sits in the
    sun, and I sit a short distance away in the shade. I go in the sun
    for short periods and use sun block. I will go on a cruise in the
    winter for 7 days of very sunny weather and come back with no
    burn or tan and have a great time, my wife is well done. If the
    ship has a promenade deck then these are great to relax in shade.
    Some of the new ships with a high percentage of outside cabins 
    delete the promenade deck. I would miss that myself. 
    In other words it is easy to be outside and comfortable on
    a ship. When near the pool the hardest spaces to get are the
    good sunny spots, especially close to the pool. Shade is usually
    not a problem. If you have to sit/lay down and hold hands with one
    in shade and one in sun then bring an umbrella.
    
    Generally 3 night cruises are Friday to Monday. You end up with only
    2 full days at sea or in ports, too short for me but great for
    a quick getaway. My understanding is that 3 night cruises tend
    to get a higher percentage of people who like to party hardy.
    Generally the longer the cruise to more mellow, but there is always
    a wide variety for just about any.
    
    4 night cruises typically go Monday to Friday. 3 full days at sea or
    in port. One more day, disadvantage versus 3 is they require a full
    week of vacation time because you have to travel Mon/Fri.
    
    7 night is most common, now 6 full days. In some cases the cost may
    only be slightly higher than 4 night cruises.
    
    Many cruises have a one day stop, usually 8 hours at a private
    beach island. They usually have shade but not always that much. You
    can still stay on board if you want.
    
    The island stops are almost always hotter than ship. Ship at sea in
    Caribbean is typically about 80 degress with breeze from ship moving.
    Typical island is about 90 to 100, many times no breeze.
    
    With proper clothing, sun block etc. I think it is real easy to
    enjoy a cruise without getting baked. I've done it for 8 cruises, on
    and off the ship.
    
    Another thing, some of the short cruises use older ships, they are
    fine but sometimes the cheap cabins have vertical bunks. Make sure
    you know what you are getting. RCCL Nordic Empress is nearly brand
    new, no vertical bunks, 3/4 night cruises. Carnival probably has
    more than one ship for 3/4. One might be older. Carnival is
    more party type cruise. 
    
    It might be that a 3 night cruise would be great to get the flavor.
    Just remember it will seem short which can be good if not what you
    like. 3 night cruises are really not the same as 7, you relax more
    on 7 night because you do not move time.
     
    The shortest cruise I took was a 4 nighter out of Port Canaveral, Fla.
    Disney cruise.
    
    I would suggest looking into prices early, if you are flexible and
    they are not that good then maybe wait for better deals. There are
    so many things changing in the industry that what worked great a year
    ago may not work now.
    
    					Harold C.
    
456.3First time cruise adviceEARRTH::BRENNANWed Jul 14 1993 14:279
    I recently took a cruise on the Monarch of the Sea for 8 days leaving 
    PR in October of last year. Although I burn very easily I had no problem. 
    I used 8 sun lotion on my face and arms, wore a baseball cap and a tee 
    shirt. All three excursions I took from the ship were on smaller 
    unprotected vessels. (Jolly Roger Rum Parties). I did not feel any type 
    of burn or discomfort. You'll have a great time. If you want anymore
    info call me at DTN 223-5276.  
    
    
456.4more infoLEDDEV::CULLISONWed Jul 14 1993 15:0149
    Even though Alaska would be cooler and would definetely be nice, I've
    always wanted to go also. You could possibly end up with more sun
    there ! Remember the further North you go around Summer time the
    longer the days, remember the day of the midnight Sun ! That is not the
    Carribean that is Alaska. June 21 in Alaska is a long day. Reality says
    they would probably have more clouds and stuff. Bermuda in Summer would
    probably have as much Sun as the Caribbean in winter. I think you could have
    a good time on any of these cruises and protect yourself pretty
    easily. I assume you might like the sun, and if so you have to
    balance both sides. I believe you can do that on most cruises.
    I think it would be a lot harder to do that by spending a week
    at a resort in the Carribean. Now a week at a New England Ski resort
    in early Jan should foot the bill, right ?
    
    When I talked with my agent today to confirm my cruise I ask
    her about the late deals versus early. She agreed with what
    I've been hearing from Cruise News and other people. What was
    true a few years ago (wait late, get great deal) is changing.
    Now it is probably better to book earlier. Almost all cruise lines
    have figured out that if all the best deals are late then everyone
    will wait and they will lose money. They are trying to provide
    the best discounts in advance now, especially 6 months or more.
    The deepest discounts are for the longer advanced bookings, as
    the ship fills up they adjust the discounts to small amounts so
    the price goes up. Obviously the most popular dates and ships get
    little discounts. There is no magic, it is all supply and demand.
    
    Basically what happens is the advance bookings are much better now
    and the late selection becomes very slim, especially on any
    of the major lines. Because discounts vary depending on departure
    date popularity and itineraies even slow season sailings will
    book up also because they get greater discounts. This is not
    to say that you cannot get a really great deal with a late sailing,
    they still exist, but not to the degree a few years ago. 
    A few years ago advance bookings did not get much more than a better
    room selection at many times much higher price. That is going away
    now. What I notice this time from last year is the very best low end
    deals that were available a year ago 1 month ahead are already gone
    4 1/2 months ahead. Some lines provide price protection for advance
    bookers. 
    
    None of this affects the really last minute deals which pop up because
    of cancellations etc. These deals are always going to be there but
    the problem is you have to be able to get to the Port on your own
    very quickly. This means they are best for people who live in Florida
    etc. that can pack quickly and show up at the ship.
    
    					Harold C.
    
456.5Great tipsPINION::MCCONNELLWed Jul 14 1993 17:457
    Thanks for all the information - early vs. late bookings, sun, old vs.
    new ships.  Great tips.  I now have a lot to think about.
    
    As for Alaska, I don't think we are ready for that yet.  BTW, did you
    hear they are having a "heatwave"?