Conference 7.286::golf

	I must admit, my wife really puts up with a lot.  I'm hooked and
she knows it.  What I find comical is that my friends that enjoy the game
hear the same complaints that I do.  Listed below are some of the things
that I hear every so often.  Do these sound familiar?  Are there others?

Jeff

     ORDINARY WEEKEND GOLF

	   "It is supposed to rain on Sunday.  You're not going to
	    play, ARE you?"

	   "Why do you have to play EVERY weekend."

       **  "I hope you don't think you are going to take a nap after
            golf... there are p-l-e-n-t-y of things which need to be
            done around the house..."

	   "I've made a list of things for you to do when you come
            home... we haven't gotten anything done around the house
            in *two* weeks"

	   "Do you have any idea how much money you spend on golf a
            year?  [pause] I didn't think so.  There is the weekend
            trip to the Cape, the Digital golf league, the BGA league,
            Trull Brook on Sundays, all those EXTRA tournaments, the
            golf clothes and clubs and balls and books and videos
            and everything else... Geez"            

	   "Can you puh-leez keep your clubs out of the living room?
            Your son hit the cherry desk with your five iron the other
            day..."
	   
     LEAGUE GOLF

	   "So, after nine holes you are coming right home, RIGHT?"

	   "You can leave work early to play golf, but if I every want
	    you to leave early..."

     VACATIONS & HOLIDAYS

      **   "You don't think you are going to take your clubs this 
            time, DO you?

	   "You aren't playing the day after Thanksgiving again this
            year, ARE you?

	   "What will I do when you are down the Cape playing golf for
            three days?"
            

     I can identify with .1. When i told my girlfriend about my trip
    to Illinois, she said "what am I going to do while you're away"?
    Since I have other interests too, and have no problem filling free
    time, I said "do what you'd normally do if we weren't together".
    Her line was a classic: "Oh, go to Rock Concerts with my boyfriend"?
     I still went to Illinois, though.
    
    --Jack
    
    

	I played in a Tournament at Laconia CC on a friday this past July. 
One fellow in my foresome stopped after nine to go call his wife; he said
she was pregnant, due any day, and she was going to visit her doctor that
morning. 

	When he met us on the tee we all asked how she was doing.  He said
that she was three centimeters dialated, but that the doctor said that they
would probably would be okay until the next day.  He then said "great, I
can finish this round and will probably be able play 18 early tomorrow
morning..."  He wasn't kidding.  I guess this was their third child and he
and his wife had been through a long labor period twice before. 

Jeff

    I can only tell you what my playing partner(single) told me.
    
    "Kill the bitch"

My wife encourages me to go out and play.  In fact, she comes with me from
time to time when I go to the driving range.  She has absolutely no desire
to take up the game though.

Mike

    
    
    
     
 .0     I think there are parallel lives going on in this world.....
    
    
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>>         Boss:  "It's the only full day we have together in the
>>                 last two weeks, and I don't want you all tired 
>>                 in the afternoon in case we want to do something."   
>>         Me:    "What do you want to do Sunday?".
>>         Boss:  "I don't know".  
>>         Me:    "How about if I get to bed early Saturday night?"
>>         Boss:  "FINE! There goes our Saturday night together. What if
>>                 we want to watch a movie!"
>>         Me:    "We'll start watching it at 8:00. I'll be able to get
>>                 to bed by 9:30-10:00. That should be fine."
>>         Boss:  "FINE! Do what *you* feel is right. I don't care."
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    Similiar to the above -
    	My greatest key of survival :  have an answer for everything. 
    
    Sooner or later my girlfriend ends up trying to figure out what we'll 
    be doing 1-2 even 3 weeks from the argument. 
    
    When I point out that silliness, it's usually then that she gives up.  :-) 
    
    
    
    Norm
    
    

    My wife thought it would be a great idea if I started to play golf
    so I did ! How did I know she didn't really mean it? Every time
    I wanted to go practice or play it took 30 minutes of arguing
    to work it out. Now I am single. My girlfriend lets me play
    every weekend, a couple of nights a week, and never complains
    about what I spend on golf. Only gets a little miffed if I stay
    out for 36 holes without calling to let her know. She has her own
    things to do and I have mine and we do plenty of things together
    also. Sometimes she comes out and plays and sometimes she just 
    walks along for the excercise. I guess what I am getting at is that
    if you have a good relationship then there is room for both people
    to have their outside activities and still share a life. All things
    don't have to be done together and two people don't have to do 
    everything together to be complete. Just my two cents worth!!!
    
    THE MAD HACKER

    Boy, I feel like I am the only female golfer who reads this notes
    file.  Hope I'm not intruding.  Is this for men only?   Very rarely
    do you hear a womens point of view.   My husband doesn't have to
    worry because I love to play golf as much as he does.  We go out
    every chance we can.  Have been out about 60 times since April.
    Think you spend a lot of money for yourself?  Well we both love
    to play so it is double the money and double the fun with half the
    aggrivation (no arguing about whether he is ALLOWED to go out and
    play golf).  It is still not as expensive as skiing.  If you love
    any one thing that you have the desire to do 3 or 4 times a week,
    I would hope the two of you both love it.  Between both, husband
    and wife, working full time, comming home to cook, clean, take care
    of the kids, it doesn't leave much time to spend together.  Golf,
    Skiing, or whatever is your enjoyment in life is so much more enjoyable
    if you married to someone with the same interests so that you can
    enjoy it together.  It's not to say that we have to play golf together
    every single time.  I have girlfriends that play and he has friends
    as well that play.  Maybe your wives are just jealous because they
    can't enjoy a beautiful weekend outside with you and they are stuck
    in the house with nothing to do, or stuck in with the kids.
    
    But,,,,,,,,,it's just my opinion ;-)
    
    Pam

    Pam, I agree with a lot of what you said.
    
    My wife also loves to play golf..We play together at least once 
    a week, sometimes twice. I also play in two leagues, so I play
    about 4 time a week (always 9 holes, tho). The neat little
    catch here is my wife is the Asst. Manager at the Golf Course
    we belong to. However, she is usually too tired to play when she
    gets off work, usually 5:30.
    
    The thing that bugs me is she thinks I should only play with her, not
    my friends. I spend a good 30-40 minutes trying to get "permission"
    from her to play at other courses with other people. As a result,
    this year I have not played at ANY other course except the one we
    belong to. Because she works at the course, we got a free family 
    membership, so it's not that it costs too much to play. 
    
    So from her prespective, she would pretty much agree with you, as
    do I...
    
    Fore...
    
    Jim
    

    Another woman's point of view (you're not alone Pam).
    
    Interesting for me that I am the one who's always off golfing and
    my husband's the one with the fifty questions. We both golf, but
    his work prevents him from getting out on the course as much as I do.
    
    It's tough to identify with all those golf widows out there, because
    golf is such a big source of enjoyment for me, and I understand why
    all you men want to get out and play so often.
    
    I just count my blessings that my husband enjoys the game as much
    as I do..
    
    Patti

    
    I read a joke that went like this:
    
    	foursome on first tee discussing how they were able to play.
    
    	1st golfer states "He gave his wife $100.00 for shopping".
    
    	2nd golfer says "He promised to take her to Bermuda".
    
    	3rd golfer not to be out done says "I have to buy her a full
    	length fur coat".
    
    	The three look at the fourth golfer....
    
    	I woke her up and said.....
    
    	"Golf course or Intercourse".
    
    	She told me to take a sweater.
    
    	It worked for me with my wife.
    

	 I have a good friend who is as fanatical about golf as I am. His
girlfriend recently took up the game and is doing quite well.  However, 
she has mentioned in the past that she doesn't understand why he just
doesn't want to play with her all the time.  And then, half kidding, she
said "what is this male bonding stuff, anyway?  Why does he have to ski
with the guys, golf with the guys, and have a few beers with the guys?" 

	The "male bonding" comment was a first, and I find it very comical.
To each his own.  For those spouses, male and female, that choose not to
play, well, that's just fine.  My wife plays a little, and that's fine. 

	The golfer and golf widow stereotypes are, from what I've seen, 
fairly accurate.  When you are in a relationship and there is a fanaticism
imbalance you just have to work it out.  

    Hi Patti.  Glad to see there is another women out there.  On the
    golf course I am seeing more and more women playing.  Sometimes,
    more women than men.  It's a great game.  Too bad more women didn't
    want to give it a try.  Then they would have something to do with
    their husbands.  I have been out more than my husband too.  I have
    quite a few girlfriends that play so when he is busy I play with
    a girlfriend.   And guys...........I had plans to play with my
    girlfriend one Wednesday night.  My husband is usually at his Exchange
    Club Meeting.  When I told him I was playing, he said "Oh you are"
    with a sad little puppy look on his face.  I asked him if he wanted
    to join us and he jumped at the chance.  So we played the three
    of us.  So what's the big deal with inviting your wife along with
    your friends and you.  Now if it was the other way around, I wouldn't
    have deared asked him to join.  I know he would have thought to
    himself "Geez, Can't I ever go out with just the guys to play".
    We have a few friends that play, husband and wife, so it makes a
    nice 4 some.   If something is THAT important to you, you should
    marry someone with the same likes.  I should have listened to my
    mother the first time I got married.  He didn't do anything that
    I loved to do like skiing (I didn't golf at the time).  She kept
    telling me how important it was to marry someone who was very 
    compantable as far as likes and dislikes.  Of course I was very
    young and didn't listen.  Well she was right.  I was always off
    skiing with my friends.  And......guess where I met my present
    husband.  Life is so much more enjoyable to be married to someone
    who loves to do the same things that I do.  There is not conflict
    because we both want to be on the golf course or ski slopes every
    single weekend of the year.
    
    Ok, enough babbling.  I just feel sorry for some of you men that
    have to beg to go out golfing every weekend and just as sorry for
    the golf widows.  I would hate to think that my husband was at work
    complaining and joking of how he gets himself out of the house to
    play golf.  It must get pretty nerve wrecking anticipating the hassle
    you are going to get when you are about to ask for "Permission"
    to get out on the golf course.  If I had the money I would play
    7 days a week.
    
    Pam

    I play golf where I want , when I want, with who I want, and as often
    as I want.  My wife bought my clubs for me as a gift 3 years ago.(and
    two sets of clubs ago)  At the time I had no interest in playing.  I got
    hooked quickly.  I took her a few times and she gets frustrated, has no
    desire to play.
    
    My wife complains and pouts occationally.  She once asked me if golf was 
    more important than she was and I took too long to answer.  I just do
    it... and ignore any bitching.
    
    Rick 

    
    
    This file is great. I had some good laughs reading all the replies.
    BUT there is one thing missing. All the ladies that replied are
    golfers. We are not hearing the other side of the argument. I know some
    of you guys are saying " somebody stifle this bozo ". Well let's put
    the golf shoe on the other foot. Three times a week you get to go home
    and make supper, take care of the kids and clean the house while your
    wife goes golfing. Then on the weekend off she goes for 5 or 6 hours and
    comse home beat, again you are home mowing,cleaning,chasing kids. You
    see it's hard for us golfers to understand that many women have always
    looked forward to having a husband and children and doing all that
    domestic stuff. It means alot to them as much as golf may mean to us.
    
    I do have the secret though..........................
    You want to know what it is?????????????????????????
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Roses, flowers and appreciation. Going out to dinner. Woman love to be
    loved and so do we macho shitheads. You can have the best of both
    worlds.... I do.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    .15 - Very well Putt !!  ;-)
    
    Pam

    Just to add.....
    
    I was playing golf when I met my wife who is also a DECIE. She 
    has never been into sports except the occasional game of tennis
    and squash, so I thought it was to be a golfer-golf widow situation.
    WRONG!!!!
    
    I think she came to the old conclusion after seeing how keen I was:
    "If you can't beat them...join them!"  Now we go out on the course
    together fairly regularly which is great fun. But I still have my
    weekly game with 3 other guys.
    
    I guess it's all to do with give and take..
    
    Given the chance to play, we both take it!!!
    
    
    Phil.
    
    
    
    

    RE: .15
    
    
    	Will you marry me!? 8^)

    
    
    re .18
    
     Gee I think my wife may get upset but I don't think she would mind if
    we got together just to play a round...
    
    Get it.......PLay a round......ohhhhh I crack me up.
    
    M/W/M
    

    RE: .-1  cute ;^)
    
    If I wasn't SOOOOO busy right now, I would love to have signed
    up for the fall noters tournament. It would be great to meet some
    of you. And Amherst is probably the closest course to where I 
    live that one of these tourneys will be held. Hope it's not too
    long before another one takes place in NH.
     
    Hey Pete, Are you playing again? How about an update to 694? 
    
    Patti