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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
Notice:FOR SALE notes in Note 69 please! Intros in note 863 or 61.
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

733.0. ""LONG PUTTERS GRANTED LIFE"" by USMFG::TGLASS () Thu Aug 24 1989 14:24

    Hi,
    Just saw in the Wall Street Journal where the USGA has voted to
    continue to allow for the use of the long putter.
    What a blessing to Orville and his winnings and his wife for her
    profits in shipping their product all over the world!
    Tom
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733.1thanks for the info...MSEE::KELLEYCustom clubs/club repairThu Aug 24 1989 14:397
    
    	Thanks for the info Tom. I had started using a regular putter
    	again last week in anticipation of their banning the long
    	putters, now I atleast still have the choice...
    
    
    	Gene
733.2"RIGHT is RIGHT"USMFG::TGLASSThu Aug 24 1989 15:326
    Gene and Others,
    I felt that both the USGA and the R & A would ban the longer putter
    since it made contact with spots other than the golfers hands(i.e.
    chin and/or chest).
    Are they becoming more logical in their decisions??????
    Tom
733.3Curious about your statement...MSEE::KELLEYCustom clubs/club repairThu Aug 24 1989 15:429
    
    	Tom,
    
    	Is there a rule about a club not being able to make contact with any 
    	part of your body except your hands....? BTW, the putter does not
    	make contact with my chest, but my left hand does...
    
    	Gene
    
733.4notable users of the clubESPN::BLAISDELLTime to eat the donutsThu Aug 24 1989 16:207
    
        I had heard that the president of the R & A uses the long putter.
      And everyone knows by now that the ol' president of the USofA
      uses one too.  With two endorsements like that, I'm not suprised
      it won't be banned.
    
    -rick
733.5"WHAT COUNTS GETS COUNTED!"USMFG::TGLASSThu Aug 24 1989 16:5114
    to gene at .3
    
    There is no rule on the "body contact" with a putter, but I thought
    they might use that for there decision.
    Otherwise, whats to prevent someone from further "modification"
    to clubs and they already demonstrated their lack of tolerance with
    the "square groove" ruling.
    
    to rick @ .4
    
    Bush's father and his grandfather were USGA presidents, but was
    he really one and when?
    
    Tom
733.6keep your hands togetherCHRLIE::HUSTONThu Aug 24 1989 17:1812
    
    I heard that the USGA figured on the Royal and Ancient not backing them
    up on the long putter ban due to the fact of the pres of RA using one.
    
    I also heard they may try and get around it by passing a rule that says
    you may not take a swing unless your hands are touching each other.
    
    
    Don't remember where I read this.
    
    --Bob
    
733.7TOOK::RASPUZZIMichael Raspuzzi - LAT/VMS EngineeringThu Aug 24 1989 17:268
I'd like to see them try to pass a rule that says you cannot make a swing unless
your hands are touching each other.  We all take full swings with our hands
close together for control but who's to say that's the right way?

Next thing you know, you'll have to keep both feet on the ground in order to
make a swing too :-).

Mike
733.8just like in the DDE daysESPN::BLAISDELLTime to eat the donutsThu Aug 24 1989 18:094
    
    Re. .5 Tom     Um,  USofA   United States of America. 
    
    -rick
733.9Flat-sided putter grips?SDEVAX::GRYGLIKWhen's our tee time?Thu Aug 24 1989 19:159
    While we're on the subject of putters, did anyone read or hear of the
    proposed change by the USGA to ban the flat-sided putter grips (as
    opposed to the round grips on the other clubs)? 
    
    Someone told me this about three weeks ago and I forgot about it
    until I read this note.
    
    
    					Mike
733.10Still the same old USGA!CSCOA3::CONWAY_JThu Aug 24 1989 22:446
    re .3 and .9
    
    No the USGA is not becoming more logical in their decisions, please
    see the new Golf Digest article on "the great grip cotroversy" in
    the "equipment" section (it's continuity is cleverly destroyed by
    a special advertising section on the Bahamas)
733.11SKETCH::WARFIELDGone GolfingFri Aug 25 1989 02:3211
Re: .9

The changes in the grip ruling haven't gotten much attention because of all
the controversy over square grooves.  Putter grips can have a flat spot, but
they can't have a bulge or waist.  Also the profile of the grip has to be
largely a straight line.  Some Ping Putter grips may not conform.

Grips for other clubs have to be circular in cross section except there can
be a reminder ridge running along one side of the grip.

Larry
733.12"TO ERR is HUMAN?"USMFG::TGLASSFri Aug 25 1989 12:152
    Sorry about not seeing/reading USofA and assuming USGA,Rick!!!!!
    Tom
733.13European Tour - Long PuttersCHEFS::NEWPORTPFri Aug 25 1989 16:3814
    Do many of the guys on your US tour use the long putter??
    
    There are two noteable players on the European Tour who have 
    switched over to them: Peter Senior (AUS) and Sam Torrance.
    Sam is 8th in the money list and Peter is 12th, so I guess they
    must work for them at least!!
    
    You'll all get a chance to see Sam with his 48" putter at the 
    Belfry. By the way he rests his chin on the putter with his hands
    about 18" apart.
    
    
    Phil.
   
733.14LONG AND SHORT OF ITSANFAN::GRANT_JODon't say `shank'Fri Aug 25 1989 19:5511
    RE: NOTE .13
    
    I am not aware of any PGA (non-senior) golfers who use the long
    putter.  Johnny Miller won the Crosby/AT&T a couple of years ago
    using an extremely short putter.  (I sometimes take my ten year
    old's mini-putter onto the practice green and am deadly with it.
    Only foolish pride prevents me from making a permanent switch.)
    I think it may be a similar pride which prevents more folks from
    making the switch to the long putter.  They sure do work....
    
    
733.15Supplementary incomeSQGUK::NOCKLife in the Bus laneTue Aug 29 1989 11:565
    I think Sam Torrance is trying to file a patent on his particular
    version of the long putter - aren't some of the other folks who
    use them also trying to patent their versions?
    
    Paul