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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1400.0. "1991 Skins Game" by NHASAD::BLAISDELL (Keep an even keel) Mon Dec 02 1991 19:29

   I'm surprised nobody is talking about the latest Skins game between Stewart,
 Daly, Nicklaus, & Strange.  Big John was fairly impressive both for his well
 documented and prodigious length off the tee, but also his wedge play and
 work around the greens.  This kid has got some talent and will be a force on
 the tour until his wristy putting stroke crashes down on him after he turns 
 30.

   Payne S. won one hole but it sure counted for megabucks.  Actually, he
 played some great golf and displayed overall that he is one of the best
 shot makers out there, plus he has that great smooth swing.  I'll take his
 swing over Daly's anyday.

   Poor Curtis and Jack.  Until Curtis's little table scrap on 17, both looked
 out of it and were no match for Stewart and Daly.  Nicklaus had a bad back
 for a legitimate excuse, but Strange's game is currently pretty poor.  He must
 be one of the shortest hitters on tour as he was consistently 20-150 yards
 behind the others.

   Can't wait to play empty courses next year.  Empty courses you ask?  Well,
 I'm counting on most of the local players twisting themselves into pretzels
 trying to duplicate the Daly swing.  Sure ought to make the chiropractors and
 doctors happy though.   8^)

-rick
    
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1400.1and furthermoreNHASAD::BLAISDELLKeep an even keelMon Dec 02 1991 19:344
    
      Oh, and if Vin Scully mentions that stupid quote about "<insert either
    Nicklaus or Daly> playing a game with which I am unfamiliar"  AGAIN,
    I'll, er..I'll aarrgh...ugh....probably wince and continue watching....
1400.2pump it up !WALTA::LENEHANTue Dec 03 1991 11:1826
     
    
    Hi Rick,
    
    	Yeah the skins game was fun to watch... Daly kept taking skins
    	from Payne,  then Payne made a nice birdie putt to steal from
    	Daly. Jack and Curtis looked out of place, not being part of
    	most of the holes... but when Daly gets it going (did you see
    	him pump up the golf shoes when he wanted a big hit? one time
    	knocking it 340+ !!!) he's very intimidating.
    
    	It's real tough when you are hitting a 2 iron, and you know it's
    	gotta be close... because Daly is going to stick a 6 iron.
    
    
    	I just watched a tourny last night ... Daly shot a final round
    	79 !  Knocking two balls OB on the 2nd hole. If the course design
    	allows for some misses off the tee, he's got a big advantage...
    	cause even if he doesn't hit the fairway, he's usually only "at
    	the most" a middle iron away. So he can recover easier.
    
    	But add some OB's? And he can really struggle.  That is until he
    	learns to back off, and hit a 1 iron 290   and layup :) !!
    
    	Walta
    	
1400.3MAST::FITZPATRICKJuuuust a bit outside.Tue Dec 03 1991 12:075
    What were the final totals?  I expected to be able to watch Sunday's
    action, but good ol' channel 5 apparently pre-empted it for some
    celebrity ice-skating show and Star Search!  Arrgghh!
    
    -Tom
1400.4Maybe a little offWALTA::LENEHANTue Dec 03 1991 12:1415
    
    
    hi Tom,
    
    	I think it was 
    
    		Payne   $260,000
    
    		John 	$160,000
    
    		Curtis  $40,000
    
    		Jack	$00,000
    
    	Walta
1400.5Reebok's = The big bucksDPDMAI::VENEZIODoes dry wine come from raisinsTue Dec 03 1991 12:2210
    John Daly not only pumped up his Reebok's, he pumped up his pocket
    book in the process.
    
    I read where JD was paid $50K to pump his shoes (ala Dee Brown) on
    national TV. The folks at Reebok must have D_E_E_P pockets. I figure it
    won't be long before Deane Beamon and his merry men file suit against
    Reebok and declare the shoes in violation for having an adjustable
    bladder.
    
    Ken 
1400.6I hate when they do thatAKOCOA::BREENBill Breen Ako2-3 244-7984Tue Dec 03 1991 14:1413
    RE .3
    	Tom,
    		That is terrible; Rick did you manage to catch it on ch 9
    from Manchester?  I was on house duty per the wife but was able to
    catch it on saturday and see Daly push the 6th or 7th with Payne.
    
    	Rick,
    		"wristy putting" will do you in come your 30s.  Is this
    something you read somewhere?  I find this hard to believe ...(___)*
    
    * s___ --g grin
    
    Bill
1400.7more infoNHASAD::BLAISDELLKeep an even keelTue Dec 03 1991 14:4918
    
        Curtis actually won 140000.  That's because the skins on the last
    few holes are worth a heck of a lot more than the first nine or so.
    Don't let the winnings fool you. Daly dominated, intimidated and 
    frustrated the others.
    
      re: bill   I think it was the NH station.  Have cable and with the 
    remote, all the stations become a blur.  
    
      Yeah the wristy stroke did me in, also has done in a number of pros
    in their later years.  Just about the time Daly's putting stroke should
    go, his swing should start to get shorter too.  I just can't see him
    continue to make that kind of turn and go that far beyond parallel when
    he is in his 30's.  
    
    -rick
    
      
1400.8someone please kill Vin ScullyMKNME::DANIELETue Dec 03 1991 15:2821
re:    <<< Note 1400.5 by DPDMAI::VENEZIO "Does dry wine come from raisins" >>>
                         -< Reebok's = The big bucks >-

>    I read where JD was paid $50K to pump his shoes (ala Dee Brown) on
>    national TV.

	The whole skins game is one huge promotion.  It's no accident that
	the cameras make sure you see the sponsors' tee markers, or a close up
	of Jack's ball and club at address show us he's playing Jack Nicklaus
	irons, etc.

	I watched some of it, but Vin Scully's incessant yammering about
	what a tremendous shot that was, and how much this hole is worth,
	( on a routine 8 iron landing 25 ft from the pin ) made it unbearable.

	I'd pay a lot to see a Tuesday practice round, when their own money 
	is on the line, with no Vin or Charlie Jones or other network
	hack who never picked up a club in his life unable to shut up for
	30 seconds...

	Mike
1400.930's is young!GRANPA::RFAGLEYthings that make you go hmmmm...Tue Dec 03 1991 16:1410
    You'd think 30's was old or something!  I can't see Daly loosing the
    flexibility he has till well past 30!  These guys hit their prime after
    30!
    
    I am 35 and still have as much turn as the 25 year old Gumby's I see.
    (However, the 15 year olds have more turn....)
    
    And... I am NOT a fitness buff!  
    
    Rick
1400.10DalyBTOQA::SHANETue Dec 03 1991 16:439
    
    I liked one of the interviews with Daly.  He talked about having to
    find someone to teach him course management and how not to be 
    impatient.  
    
    Looks like he's ready to make the next step!
    
    Shane
    
1400.11NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOWed Dec 04 1991 14:5135
    Add to the comments...
    
    Daly also won three cars and gave his Mom the Lexus.  Strange won two
    cars.  More importantly, Daly won the hearts of many golf fans
    including some who were and are skeptical of his swing mechanics. 
    Remains to be seen, but another large long hitter came on the scene
    some 20 years ago and took a beating for unseating the "King".  For me,
    I find that I agree with most of the pros (except for people like
    Strange) who find DAly's presence a real value to the golf circuit and
    a breath of fresh air.  I would much rather watch him blast away than
    watch most of the others push it down the middle.  Since Daly has won a
    major early, he may not feel the heat that Greg Norman has felt as he
    played in the shadow of Nicklaus.  
    
    I also find his attitude refreshing...he readily admits that he is as
    surprised as everyone else to be here.  He is a "golfer from the
    country" not the "country club".  
    
    As to the incessant babbling by Scully...I agree.  He more than once
    stepped on a conversation being picked up by the miked players.  In
    fact, one was between Nickalus and Daly(also the most intersting human
    interest story...since Nicklaus is Daly's idol and Jack is not known
    for his outgoing manner when playing/competing)...Nicklaus asks Daly
    what he is doing during the winter and Daly responds" well next week I
    am playing for a million ..." then Scully interupts and we don't get to
    hear the rest.  I would have been more interested in the on course
    banter picked up by the Mike's than Scully's babble.
    
    As for the sponsor stuff, I think it is great.  Wish Digital would buy
    a few tee markers like Andersen Consulting did.  
    
    I can't wait for the TOC in early January here in SoCal so I can go
    watch Daly hit as well as Woosie, Faldo and the others.
    
    SOCalDandy
1400.12big purse tournamentCPDW::LACAIREWed Dec 04 1991 16:323
    SCD:
    I believe Daly was talking about the Sun City open in south africa.
-Steve.
1400.13'wristy' at 30.... :^)INDEV1::GSMITHI need two of everythingWed Dec 04 1991 16:5214
    
    	Your kidding about Daly not being able to putt when he's 30...
    	right? These guys are professional players, constantly playing
    	and practicing.. adjusting... that's what they do for a LIVING!
    
    	I thought Payne played best. It was Payne who stopped Daly on
    	a couple of holes... or the other way around, depending on how
    	you saw it. My point is that most holes were tied by Payne and
    	Daly... and Payne won about 100k more than Daly. 
    
    	Great match to watch. BTW... how are the players chosen to
    	participate? Jack gets to play the seniors next! 
    
    		Smitty