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| 1863.1 | Mo-money, mo-money! | FLYSQD::MONTVILLE | | Mon Mar 28 1994 16:45 | 10 |
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I'd be willing to bet that it's around the 10% --> 15% range.
Now, here you are. Doing something you love, getting a chance to play
these courses, being in the public eye and get $45K for 4 days work.
Now, that's America!
Bob Montville
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| 1863.2 | What a great JOB! | CAPNET::EHS | | Mon Mar 28 1994 17:38 | 11 |
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Tony Navaro is Mr. Norman's caddy and he gets 10% of the total earnings
plus other gifts (like cars) as the year (season rolls on. I played golf
with Tony back in Moline, Ill.
He attended Moline HS and I attended East Moline High School. He is a good
golfer and a great Guy. He caddied for Jeff Sluman for years prior to
Loopin for Norman.
Ed Stapf
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| 1863.3 | | ROCCER::LWARE | | Mon Mar 28 1994 17:55 | 20 |
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If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...
I spent some time partying with some of the caddies here for the
Seniors a while ago. If they are taken on by a pro, they work for
a pre-arranged percentage of the take, they given courtesey golf
priv's at courses in the area, equipment discounts and some have
'visor' sponsorships. But they are responsible for their own travel
and accomidations and are on the road for about 10 months out of the
year. And it sounds like they work quite hard scoping out the course,
etc...
The group I was hanging out with, three guys were traveling/rooming
together in a motel room with two beds - if your player came in last
you slept on the floor.... ;-) They were an interesting group of
'gypsies' - big partyiers.
-Laura
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| 1863.4 | Euro caddies facts | PEKING::ANTELLJ | | Tue Mar 29 1994 07:43 | 23 |
| On the Euro tour i know 2 people who caddie they are brothers and ex
roof tilers (Building is dead over here).
Their pay is 375.00 a week plus 5% they get the 375.00 whether the guy
makes the cut or not, also they get frebbies like towels and balata
Maxflis, which are sold to close freinds for a nominal fee.
The top caddies do well but its a tuff life for the others their
hope is their guy wins 100k they pick up 5% for a weeks work.
Fanny Suneson earns in excess of 100k per year as does Peter Coleman,
Talking to this freind is really funny the conversation goes something
like this,
'I was doing Frank Nobilos bag WE started very well WE holed a 20fter
for birdie the WE made a good par at the second, then he went and hit
it out of bounds.
He also told me about certain golfers he has caddied for who are famous
but not world stars who pay him by cheque say 432.89p he gats paid the
exact amount, i will not say any names as i cab not afford a libel
bill.
Joe
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| 1863.5 | sometime % sometimes more. | WOTVAX::MORRISON | | Tue Mar 29 1994 11:57 | 11 |
| 1863.6 | Its Tough at The Bottom | LARVAE::GARDNER_L | | Tue Mar 29 1994 15:13 | 15 |
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Its a far cry from the 20 - 30 pounds I got for carrying a bag all day
at Sunningdale as a youth. I bet also on tour they don't get abuse and
clubs thrown at them (exception seve's caddy)
The lines I gave in those days were perfect but with a 58 hcp lunatic
on the end of the putter they were never going to hole a putt, ah happy
days.
It seems the flavour of the month for the lesser names on the Euro tour
to get the wife carrying the bag. For you ladies, also on the ladies
tour the husbans pick up the bag.
Sounds like a good reason to carry your own !
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| 1863.7 | Speaking on Fanny... | KOALA::DEFELICE | | Tue Mar 29 1994 16:50 | 4 |
| Speaking of Fanny, there is a *minor* controversy in the air regarding
her role in helping Faldo line up his putts. FWIW, She is doing nothing
illegal, however, some people feel it is a questionable practice.
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| 1863.8 | from #1 to #??? | AIMHI::CORRIGAN | | Tue Mar 29 1994 16:53 | 11 |
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re. Faldo and Fanny.
It sure as hell ain't helpin' much. He's still puttin' like s***!!! Why
on earth do people like him, who are at the top of their game, try to
get "better"?? It's all in his head now, I think he's askin' for too
much....
IMHO
Joe
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| 1863.9 | | KOALA::DEFELICE | | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:37 | 6 |
| I think his best years are still ahead of him, as long as he starts to
enjoy what he's doing for once. He has such a beautiful swing and all
that talent... I think I heard someone (Miller?) mention that Nick
hasn't won in the States since 1990. That did surprise me. (BTW, I
have Faldo's book and really think it is top notch.)
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| 1863.10 | should be illegal | ASDG::TREMBLAY | | Tue Mar 29 1994 18:38 | 9 |
| Having a caddy line up your putts SHOULD be illegal! If it is
helping Faldo make more putts, then he's not as good a golfer as his
scores show. On the LPGA tour, Dottie Mochrie's (sp?) husband caddies
for her and lines up all her full shots. In this case, he doesn't have
to move before she hits the ball. If a golfer can't line up a shot or
putt without their caddy telling them if the club face is on line, then
he or she is not the golfer they appear to be.
JT
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| 1863.11 | | KOALA::DEFELICE | | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:11 | 6 |
| I can remember this being a big issue when Johnny Miller was playing.
The rules were changed then so that the caddie has to move before the
putt is stroked. If you watch Fanny, she does just that. She stays
behind Faldo and ensures that he is perfectly aligned then walks away
just before he stokes the putt. It's all perfectly within the rules,
but I never see anyone else doing the same.
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| 1863.12 | | PEKING::ANTELLJ | | Wed Mar 30 1994 12:54 | 30 |
| Many summers ago about 20, all the young lads used to caddie at
Sunningdale for the wealthy members.
In 1972 the going rate was about 2.00 per rd and as many wrapped
Dunlops you could steal(Or so i was told)
I knew one dishonest caddie who threw his mans driver in the bushes
after the last drive and went back to retrieve it later.
Also the caddie master would buy any pick up golf balls you managed to
find on the round, in those days we were jsut doing it for the money
the guy would say did you get a line on that in the rough, you would
say yes then amble about if it was found he thought you were a good
caddie.
One summers day i was caddying in a 4 ball, the other caddies were
smoking and on one hole thuy were throwing cigarette ends around,
one of these dropped in one of the bags and in those times the bags
were lined with material of some sort.
A few holes later the bag started to smoulder and smoke, the caddie was
frantic you have never seen anything so funny they were both pouring
the clubs out on the fairway, the other golfers were trying not to
laugh and us other caddies were crying with laughter, no i dont
think that particular caddie got a tip.
That is a true story and there are many others, i caddied for about a
year.
One of the caddies is now a famous golfer who played in the last
Ryder cup.
Joe.
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| 1863.13 | $4/bag for 18 | ASDG::TREMBLAY | | Wed Mar 30 1994 14:17 | 6 |
| I did a little work as a caddie in the early 60's. The going rate
was $4/bag for 18 holes. Most caddies would carry 2 bags and with a
good round you could bring in $10 per round. Being of small stature,
I carried doubles a few times on hot Sunday mornings and decided I'd
get a paper route instead.
JT
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| 1863.14 | Mystery Club and Caddy | PEKING::ANTELLJ | | Wed Mar 30 1994 15:29 | 30 |
| Double Humping they called that at Sunningadale and Wentworth only
the men caddies could lift 2 bags we were about 14 or 15 so no chance.
I do remember the bag cutting into your shoulder, some caddie would
lighten the load by lifting some of the wrapped Dunlops, but not
me sir.
There was this caddie at the course his name was Leigh, he was
recognised as the worst caddie.
Many times he gave the wrong line he would read left when it broke
right, i have been told he is playing somewhere now himself.
I remeber on the 11th at Sunningdale (Old Course) our guys had just
driven it is a blind hole we were sent on ahead, as the ball landed in
the fairway this chap Leigh came charging out of the bushes and
picked up the balls.
The guys asked what happened we said a tramp pinched them, if you see
the way this guy ws dressed we were not far wrong!!!
He once when clubbing a guy at Barton on Sea under clubbed and the guys
drive ended up in the sea, they say he did it on purpose but i am not
sure.
He gives a club it is known in caddy language as a mystery club, the
mystery is where the ball will land!!!!
I hope for the Pros sake there are no mystery clubs or dodgy caddies at
Augusta.
Joe
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| 1863.15 | only way to learn the game!!!! | AIMHI::CORRIGAN | | Wed Mar 30 1994 16:17 | 19 |
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>> Double Humping they called that at Sunningadale and Wentworth
We called it the double loop. There was also the "suicide double",
2 bags, 36 holes!!! You couldn't pay me any amount of $$$ to do
that now!!!!!
>> I do remember the bag cutting into your shoulder, some caddie would
We called those kind of straps "fish-line", and you're right, it did
cut into your shoulders!!!
The stories I could tell.........
Joe
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| 1863.16 | the good ol'days | MR1MI1::SWANEY | She pulls your eyes out with a face like a magnet | Thu Mar 31 1994 05:13 | 13 |
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as of 10-12 years ago I was getting $20 for carrying two bags
at Worcester C.C. with tip $24-30 and on Sat and Sun. I would
definetly go out twice , so for a 14-15yr old $50-60 (tax-free)bucks
for 8-9 hours work was great! during tourney like State, or PV pro-AM
you could get as much as $60-100 for two bags for one round
I'll tell ya, I can still remember how painful it was to carry two bags
up the 18th at W.C.C. on a hot sunny day *&&^*&%^@%#^@%&
BS
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| 1863.17 | Caddy tales | PEKING::ANTELLJ | | Thu Mar 31 1994 07:09 | 18 |
| Double Loops and fish lines tell me more , true caddy tales only.
I have some but i would not tell them some are so unreal no one would
believe them, but they are true honest guv.
I know a chap who plays golf at our club he is retired now but he is
good friends eith the caddy master at Royal Berkshire and Swinley
Forest.
If there are good payers about he gives this guy a phone call, one Sat
he got a call telling him to be at the Berkshire 9.00 on Sunday.
He arrives at the course only to find he is caddying for Prince Andrew,
he said he had 3 bodyguards one who was beside him and get this the
other 2 went in the woods 150 yds ahead of the game left and right so
he had ballspotters aswell, they were there in case of terrorist
attacks.
This is another true tale from caddy land.
Joe
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| 1863.18 | my claim fame | MR1MI1::SWANEY | She pulls your eyes out with a face like a magnet | Fri Apr 01 1994 02:18 | 9 |
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Well no Prince Andrew, but I did caddy for Cousy about 6 times
he was a member at W.C.C. and at a pro-am I was in the same group
as Jim Rice (my claim to caddy fame!)
Bill
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| 1863.19 | CARRY YOUR BAGS....SIR | PAKORA::MROY | | Fri Apr 01 1994 04:29 | 65 |
| I caddied at Turnberry in the 80s for some years and in those days I
was getting between 10-15 pounds a round,now i think the lads are
getting 15-20 pounds a round + tip.
Not bad for walking round a golf course
During that time there were some classic things that happened,here a
some examples.........
Imagine the scene,young lad (not me) out with a four ball,nice sunny
dry day and its only his 2nd time out on the course.
At the 4th tee (par 3) the big yank hits a cracker straight on to the
green, happy with his shot he pulls out a BIG KING EDWARD CIGAR from
his bag,lights up and carrys on towards the green.(already with putter
in hand)
On arriving at the green he eyes up his putt and just before he plays
his shot he throws down his very expensive cigar,to the cries of
" I'll GET THAT FOR YOU...SIR"
And before he knew it his reward of a good shot was stamped in to the
4th green.
So if any golfers out there ever get a chance or have played Turnberry
Ailsa,and you miss or have missed a putt on that green ...blame the
young lad.
Yours
The Caddy Master
P.S
His nickname was "Glum"
2.
Another classic tale was about 1 of the caddies getting a double carry.
He was at the 16th on the Ailsa course,it has a burn (stream) running
round the front of green and also the green sits up a little bit higher
than the fairway.
So the 2 golfers were hitting there approach shots to the green,1 of
them did not reach the dance floor and his ball ended up in the water.
When they arrived at the water it is quite a drop down so the caddy
knows that there was only 2 holes left to make a good impression.
Said "I'll get that for you ....sir
Down he went into the water as he bent over to pick up the ball both
sets of clubs fell into the water.
Now i would say that was a great way to make a good impression
Needless to say both golfers had a mixed bag after that!!!!!!!
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| 1863.20 | Aussie Caddy | MOEUR8::CUSSELL | | Fri Apr 01 1994 07:18 | 24 |
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In the late eighties I caddied for Glen Vines in the Australian masters
as well as other Aussie tournies. On two occasions in the same group as
Wayne Grady.
The pay was about A$400 for the four days plus about %8 of the
winnings.
I remember the FORD (tournament sponsor) overalls we had to wear, these
were brand new on the Thursday and dark blue. In the 32..35 degree
centigrade heat these overalls were stinking hot so I wore very little
underneath. At the end of a round though, my whole body was dark
blue too!
I think it was in the '88 (Australian) Masters when Glen chipped in on the
18th, on the Friday -- to make the cut. Good for Glen, good for me - it
was another two days work/pay!
The bikini girls who gave you the drinks every third hole were gorgeous
- but took more interest in the pros than the caddies!
GC
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| 1863.21 | | KOALA::DEFELICE | | Fri Apr 01 1994 17:01 | 3 |
| ** The bikini girls who gave you the drinks every third hole were gorgeous
I gotta play this course.
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| 1863.22 | drinks anyone | MOEUR8::CUSSELL | | Tue Apr 05 1994 13:52 | 9 |
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It was Huntingdale -not the best Melbourne has to offer but pretty good-
the bikini girls are only there during the four days of the Aust. Masters
- and it's difficult for a 16 handicapper (like me) to get on during this
period.
;-)
GC
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