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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

1550.0. ""New Tech" - Need Advice..." by MRKTNG::VARLEY () Wed Jul 08 1992 16:48

     Is anyone using the NEW Wilson Ultra irons ? Do you like 'em or
    dislike 'em ? Also what shaft is equivalent to a "stiff" - 3.5  or 
    what ? Our pro hit 'em and I watched - they look to be DEFINITELY
    longer. Plus, after the recent "Night of the Long Knives" at Hogan, I
    may be through with their stuff for good...
    
    --Jack
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1550.1Inquiring mindsWALTA::LENEHANpar-taking in par makingWed Jul 08 1992 16:589
    
    
    Hi Jack,
    
    	You knew you weren't going to escape without an explanation !
    
    	What happened at Hogan?????
    
    	Walta
1550.2"Hello, New Irons (whatever you are)"MRKTNG::VARLEYWed Jul 08 1992 17:4226
     Hogan was sold by Cosmo Int'l. (The people who bought/sold Pebble
    Beach for a $300 million loss) to AMF. AMF immediately cashiered a
    whole bunch of top salesmen (I knew a few personally, and all were
    doing well), and the National Sales Mgr. (a real close friend who had
    22 years with Hogan).
    
     Hogan himself is a figurehead (and does have a lot to say about club
    design - fortunately...) who had nothing to do with it. In fact, my pal
    was slated to meet with him yesterday to just rehash things. Over the
    years he has gotten to know Mr. Hogan pretty well, so he wanted to say
    goodbye in person.
    
     I know how the Hogan company and these salesmen were doing - and they
    were doing pretty well. However, they had a few bozos at the top (sound
    familiar ?) who wanted to be surrounded by "yes men." So - those with
    other viewpoints were dismissed. To all this I say - "screw 'em, I
    won't play with their stuff." As fast as I can unload my Hogan irons,
    I'll get sdomethin' else. I'm not such a good player that it makes that
    much difference what I play with, but principles DO make a difference
    to me !
    
     Again, I have a personal involvement in this. I think Hogan makes
    great equipment, and I won't try to dissuade others from playing it. I
    just won't buy it.
    
    --Jack
1550.3NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOWed Jul 08 1992 18:017
    jack,
    
    Go for the Lynx or the Wilson Ultra 45.  Good for you and principles. 
    Does this include other Voit equipment as well as balls??.  You might
    be in for a whole new outfit.
    
    SCD
1550.4I'm Gettin' Closer...MRKTNG::VARLEYWed Jul 08 1992 18:195
    I dunno about Lynx - used to be garbage. Freddy Couples could play with
    a rake, anyway. When you say Wilson Ultra 45, is 45 the shaft ? I just
    need to know what equates to a Dynamic S 300 in the Ultra irons...
    
    --Jack
1550.5Try the ParallaxCGOOA::DURNINWed Jul 08 1992 21:4710
    Good for you Jack,
    
    I have an Uncle who used the Lynx Parallax for a few years and then
    sold them for Spalding Cannons (I don't know what prompted this except
    perhaps the propaganda).  Boy is he kicking himself now.  It's been 3
    years and he has scrapped the Cannons and if he could afford it he'd
    buy the Parallax again.  He's a good golfer for 66 years of age playing
    still to about a 10.
    
    Consider the Parallax....JD
1550.6UltraPCAE::FITTERMANThu Jul 09 1992 15:4813
    Jack,
    I have just switched to them after using forged perimeter weighted
    clubs (Macgregor JNP's).  I really like them alot.  I don't hit them
    particularly farther although I do get more spin from them then I did
    with my JNP's.  I have also dropped my handicap from an 8 to a 5 since
    I started using them.  My trend is to a 4.  I am also playing alot too
    which may account for the drop.  But the overall feeling is that they
    are very nice.  Rich Phillips has last years model that I believe he is
    trying to sell.  You might want to talk to him if you are looking for a
    deal.
    
    Mike.
    
1550.7stiff!PCAE::FITTERMANThu Jul 09 1992 15:507
    Oh yeah I forgot.  Wilson sells these things with 3 different shaft
    flex's.  I swing hard but took the medium flex (2.8 is the
    designation).  The 2.0 is the tour stiffness which seemed a little to
    stiff even for me.
    
    Mike.
    
1550.8very goodGIDDAY::BARNIERThu Jul 09 1992 22:0716
    
    
    	Just ordered a set. I had a hit with 5 iron and 1 metal wood.
    
    	I noticed that the five iron hit very high the 1 wood hit straight
    
    	and low. The five iron was very long about 15-20 meters longer.
    
    	From 160meters out and had it spin back about 2 meters. I ordered
    
    	Stiff shafts on the woods because when I swung harder they tended to
    
    	pull hook. They feel great and look good.
    
    
    						Luke