Conference 7.286::golf

    Gordi,
    Pleze pay due NOTE to Mr. Nicklaus' performances in the previous THREE
    majors. Not to bad for a 51 year old and a record even the "flat
    bellies" would like to lay claim to!
    
    As for the PGA, consider him a very serious contender since many of the
    younger golfers will. He also has an intimidation factor of ------!
    He will win a major in the decade of the 90s as he did in the 50s, 60s,
    70s and 80s.
    
    Remember, you read it here and it was forecast by this Buckeye.
    Tom

    
    er. .0   "No rookies win the PGA....."
    
    What about Jeff Sluman a couple years ago? He might not have been a
    rookie and it was a fluke........but.........
    
    Joe
    

        Sounds like I woke up a diehard Buckeye fan.....don't get me wrong
    he is a great competitor and the best golfer I have ever seen but 51 is
    51 and I don't believe he has it left in him plus the fact there are
    too many other young ones out there that will take it away from him on
    the tour today. As far as no rookies win the PGA, I was just saying that
    this year there have been a lot of first time winners and I just don't
    think you'll see one at the PGA. Go BOOM BOOM.....gotta love a guy with
    a nickname like BOOM BOOM.
    
    GORDI

    
    
    	SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP PERHAPS I CAN SHARE SOME INFORMATION
    	ABOUT JEFF SLUMAN AND WHY HIS WINNING THE PGA WAS NO FLUKE.
    	I HAVE KNOWN JEFF FOR OVER 30 YEARS AS WE GREW UP TOGETHER
    	AND I STILL SEE HIM OCCASIONALLY AROUND THE HOLIDAYS IN
    	ROCHESTER, NY. FIRST OF ALL ABOUT HIS SIZE... JEFF WAS
    	BORN WITH A RARE KIDNEY DISEASE. THE TREATMENT HE WAS
    	GIVEN SAVED HIS LIFE BUT HAD A SIDE EFFECT OF STUNTING
    	HIS GROWTH. EVERY DAY WHEN WE WERE YOUNG AFTER SCHOOL
    	JEFF HAD TO GO TO STRONG MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND BE TREATED.
    	THE REST OF US DID WHAT NORML KIDS DID... PLAYED BASEBALL
    	SOCCER OR JUST SCREWED AROUND. ABOUT 6:30 IN THE EVENING
    	JEFF WOULD RETURN FROM THE HOSPITAL TOO TIRED TO PLAY WITH US.
    	THIS WENT ON FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS AS I REMEMBER IT. WHEN WE
    	GOT OLDER AND COULD DRIVE WE USED TO DROP JEFF OFF AND
    	PICK HIM UP A COUPLE HOURS LATER. I BELIEVE THAT THIS
    	EXPERIENCE FOR JEFF SIGNIFICANTLY SHAPED HIS CHARACTER.
    	JEFF WANTED TO PLAY SPORTS AND DO AS WELL AS THE REST OF
    	US BUT HIS PHYSICAL SIZE CLEARLY HELD HIM BACK. HE PUT MOST
    	OF HIS ENERGY INTO BILLIARDS,PING-PONG, AND YES GOLF. THINGS
    	WHERE SKILL AND DETERMINATION COULD OVERCOME SHEER SIZE AND
    	STRENGTH. JEFF HAS A LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE I HAVE RARELY SEEN
    	IN PRO SPORTS OR LIFE IN GENERAL. YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOT HEARD
    	ABOUT THIS BECAUSE JEFF CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER MENTION IT AND
    	WILL MOST LIKELY JUMP DOWN MY THROAT FOR TELLING ANYBODY.
    	IN ANY CASE JEFF IS 5'6" TALL AND WEIGHS ANOUT 130LBS.
    	WOOZY IS A GIANT COMPARATIVELY.
    
    	JEFF WON THE PGA AND DESERVED TO. HOW MANY OTHER TOP PLAYERS
        HAVE ? REMEMBER WHEN JEFF "CHOKED" RECENTLY AGAINST ANDRADE ?
        20MIN PRIOR TO THE PLAYOFF HE RECEIVED WORD THAT HIS DAD HAD
    	SUFFERED A MASSIVE CORONARY. 
    
    	YOU ARE RIGHT, JEFF IS NO ROOKIE. BUT IT WASNT A FLUKE EITHER.
    
    	TIM 

    
    RE. -1
    
    Tim,
    
    Sorry to have struck an obvious cord. I was just going on his
    performances before and after. They all work hard as hell out there
    but you have to admit he was a long shot at best.
    
    Joe

    Re: .4 - My hat is off to an old "Oak Hill Guy" like Sluman. I've never
    played there, but that may change this Fall. I went to Colgate, which
    has a REAL (!!) strong course, and we had several fine players from
    the Rochester area - Pete Liebschutz and Don Allen. If memory serves
    correctly, Don was low amateur at the Masters several times.
    
    --Jack

	I agree with whoever it was that said Couples and Norman will be right
there near the top.  Is Woosnam playing?  If yes, then he too will do well
this week and have a good chance at winning.  Others with a good shot are Payne
Stewart, Calcaveccia and beleive it or not, Marco Dawson who is playing well and
hits the ball very long.  This years course is over 7200 yards!!!

Beak

        .4   Tim, great story on Jeff Sluman! It is unbelievable what some
    folks go through in life and sometimes I think my life is tough, ha!
    He is one heck of a player and one of those that amaze you when you
    realize how big he is and how far he hits the ball. You are absolutely
    right it was no fluke when he won it, he played great golf.....
    
              but if we want to talk fluke, in my humble opinion there is
    no way that Marco Dawson will be in the race. Even though he played
    some good golf over the past week end, he won't be seen this weekend.
    
              Even though I am still going with Boom-Boom (no one has
    changed my mind yet) I got thinking Tom Kite might come ready to play.
    He wants to make the Ryder Cup awful bad.....his comment was "I want to
    be on the team that wins it back" I don't believe he has missed a team
    in the past twelve years.
    
    Gordi

    My choice for the PGA is Faldo, with Seve as a close second, and
    Stewart and Kite third equal. Reason is that Faldo has had a poor
    season so far by his standards, and appears to be coming on to his
    game. Seve was pipped at the post in the Scandanavian Open last Sunday,
    and usually re-acts strongly (and positively) to such an experience.
    Stewart is in great form, and Kite is long overdue for a major.
    
    On the question of the wild card picks for the USA Ryder cup team. IMHO
    Dave Stockton has three logical choices for two positions. Kite, Watson
    and Nicklaus. I would not like to be in his position, as good cases can
    be made for each player. Any two out of these three will do the USA
    proud, I'm sure. Interesting point to me here is that the USA is
    choosing wild cards from a much stronger position than Gallacher in
    Europe. If I'm not mistaken these are the three all-time money winners
    in professional golf.
    
    
    Norman

    
    9 replies and no one has picked young Mr Olazable (sp?). After last
    years showing, he has to have good odds.
    
    My Pick:  Greg Norman,
    
    misc:  Jack will be in it, but not on Sunday, he will play himself out
    of it on Saturday.
    Faldo misses the cut.
    Stewart, Watson and Kite (and Olazable) will make runs at it.
    
    --Bob
    

    
    I don't think Greg Norman is going to win the PGA. The guy is just not
    having fun out there anymore. He used to have the look of the Shark in 
    his eyes but now it's more of a look of fustration and confusion.
    Everyone is watching and waiting for Greg to make his move on the U.S.
    tour but I think we have his best effort but unbelievable shots have
    beaten him. If he had won all those tounaments he lost on the last hole
    to Tway,Gamez,Simpson and Miez he would have continued to dominate the
    tour. But, I honestly believe it hurt him more than we know. The thing
    is nobody remembers who comes in second or why or how. If he had won
    the goal of being thought of as one of the greats would have been in
    his reach and he would have had that extra incentive to push that much
    harder.
    
    My pick: Corey Pavin
    
    Pete 

    
    Ok Pete   I'll bite...
    
    	I pick Greg Norman !
    
    	The only reason being, the majority of people won't pick him...
    	and maybe with less pressure to win, and a little old fashioned
    	pride he'll be back to form.
    
    	Just a wild hunch;
    
    	Walta

    Hey Gordi-
    
    Welcome to the Boom Boom fan club.  I always root for him.  A class guy
    who is learning how to win.  
    
    SCD

    
    Chip Beck. He's pissed after last week, and due for a major.

    .13       Thanks, I have always liked Boom Boom. He sure hits it a long
    way but he does it so effortlessly.....if only my swing was so smooth.
    I figure the way he has played this year, especially in the British
    Open, he is ready to take on this 7200 yard course and do his thing and
    win his first major!
    
    Kind of surprised that no one is picking Billy Andrade...
    
    
    Gordi               

    
    Walta, Walta, Walta, did you not read my rambeling words of wisdom. The
    unargueable reasons that Gregie Boy just won't be able to hurdle the
    emotional barriers that keep him from becoming the number one honcho in
    town. Wake up blockhead the poor guys an emotional basket case. He
    dosen't want to put himself into a situation that he may fail like a
    couple of weeks ago. If he does make a run at it this week and fails
    he won't be the shark he will be the sharks bait. The only ones hitting
    Cobra clubs will be him and maybe you.
    
    Oh by the way I really like the guy and if he won, although I would
    have to take some serious verbal lashing from some Cod I mean Shark
    fans, I would be fired up for the crum I mean bum I mean guy.
    
    Pete

    
    
     BILL RUSSELL TOLD ME THAT THE WINNER WILL BE THE GUY WITH THE
     FEWEST STROKES. ANY BETS ?
    
     TIM

         Day 1 is complete.....did anyone chose Woosie??? Where the heck
    did Kenny Knox come from, doubt very much he'll be around at the end.
    The Golden Bear found the water on 18 to drop to one under, not a bad
    showing for the first day. I didn't see Boom Boom even on the first
    page of the leader board, ugh! Tragedy struck again, a fan hit by
    lightening while trying to back to the car. Tim, that Bill Russell is
    a smart one, isn't he? 
    
    Gordi

    Would any please be kind enough to post a brief account of the play, or
    the top page of the leaderboard.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Steve (suffering from withdrawal symptoms cos he ain't got a t.v.
    channel he can watch it on!)
    

RE: .4,.18

Use lower case your burning out my retinas!

        The leader board:
    
              Woosman  -5     Lietzke    -4     Daly     -3
              Knox     -5     Hallet     -3     Magee    -3
              Stadler  -4     Purtzer    -3
              Lyle     -4     B.R. Brown -3
              K. Green -4     Floyd      -3
    
        A host of others at -2 including Norman, Faldo and Calcavecchia
    
        A bunch at -1 including Nicklaus, Wadkins and Ballesteros
    
        and Boom Boom at +2.....oh nooooo!
    
        .20.....by the way .18 is in lower case!
    
    
    Gordi
    

    Prediction for Norman after the 2 under Thursday round.
    
    Friday 70 
    Saturday 75
    Sunday   66
    
    Finishes 2 shots out to Woosnam.  
    
    I hope this is not the case, as I would like to see him win.  It seems
    though that this is his track record in the last several majors.
    
    My bet is for Woosnam to continue strong; he is an excellent front
    runner.   2nd choice is B.R. Brown as he has played well in the majors.
    
    TWS

>     <<< Note 1340.7 by SA1794::WELLSPEAK "NY GIANTS = NFL Champions!!!" >>>
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>	I agree with whoever it was that said Couples and Norman will be right
>there near the top.  Is Woosnam playing?  If yes, then he too will do well
>this week and have a good chance at winning.  Others with a good shot are Payne
>Stewart, Calcaveccia and beleive it or not, Marco Dawson who is playing well and
>hits the ball very long.  This years course is over 7200 yards!!!

>Beak

	I was the first one to mention Woosnam as a favorite to win this thing.
By the way, is Marco Dawson even playing in the PGA?  With the length of this
course combined with the wet weather, it definately favors the longer hitters of
which Dawson is one.

Beak

    
    Hi Pete,
    
    	ok Ok Ok
    
    	I can see this argument going nowhere... I know Greg Norman
    	is going to win it... and you incorrecly chose Corey Paven.
    
    
    	So lets just make it less complicated and quiet :)
    
    	I'll bet you a bucket of balls at Stow driving range Greg
    	finishes higher up the leader board than Corey .
    
    	well??? Cmon Pete,  just think a "free" bucket! (if you win)
    
    	Walta

         Well it is over and I'll say it first, I'll eat my words....A
    ROOKIE won the PGA! I can't believe it. Where did this guy come from,
    where has he been all year? What a hitter! Drives over 300 yards,
    hit a 1 iron 264 yards into the wind and was putting for eagle, hit
    wedges to the greens where the others were 6, 7 and 8's, reached the
    600 yard par 5 in two!!! Holly cow! I was wrong these new kids on the
    block can really handle themselves. I kept waiting for him to destruct
    but he kept sticking it in, right at the pin. My congratulations go out
    to Paul Daly, the 1991 PGA Champion.....where was Boom Boom? oh well,
    maybe next year.
    
    Gordi

    Well, that was certainly a lesson in aggressive, powerful play
    wernit! Bang goes the theory that the driver should point at the target
    at the top of the backswing, Daly's was pointing at the TEE! Jeez, I've
    never seen such SUSTAINED powerful play, sure Sevvy can hit as long,
    but not on EVERY hole for four days. Even when he played the (nnth?)
    par five he went via two lots of sand and still putted for a birdie
    (made the par with ease).  Best of luck to him in the future, deserved
    to win.
    
    Steve.

    I loved Jack's 71.72.73.71 showing at this difficult course.
    
    I hated the PGA trying their best to rule young Daly out of THEIR
    plans!
    
    Seve's brother always marked his line when he caddied for Seve and no
    one even noticed or cared. Had there been call-in violations back then,
    I would have called in and had Seve penalized. His brother spike marked
    the line and often as not grounded the flag on the line. It was
    intentional!

    
    Well this goes along with what Tim ( .4 ) said to my response in note
    .2. They all work hard out there and none should be considered a
    "fluke". John Daly played on the Hogan tour last year. He has also 
    been having a pretty good rookie year with a good finish a couple of
    weeks ago at PV.
    Good luck to him. I think he has a great future in front of him.
    
    Joe
    

  Re.27 and others

>>    I hated the PGA trying their best to rule young Daly out of THEIR
    plans!
    
    I don't think that you can put all the blame on the PGA when it was 
a viewer that called the ruling in. We've had same serious discussions
in this notesfile about the viewer calling in penalties. I think it is
time that the USGA,PGA and etc.. ban the phone in referee's. I almost
went through the T.V. when they did this to the kid. John Daly did some-
thing that hasn't been done seen Jack Nicklaus was in his prime. 
         Also,so much for the swing plane.....


 marko

    Re: .26 - Seve CAN'T hit it as long as this guy, whether it's for a
    short period or time or just a nanosecond. The guy is as scary as 
    anyTHING I've ever seen.
    
    --Jack

    re: .29
    
    > so much for the swing plane...
    
    the kid is a great raw talent no question about it BUT...
    
    since 1970 we've seen many great "new talents" come and go
    
    without a set of solid fundamentals none will stand the test
    of time....all the "greats" over the years had one thing in
    common..good fundamentals...without them the game sooner or
    later goes south....
    
    hope this guy is the exception because he's a needed breath of
    fresh air for the tour....
    
    my 2 cents

    re:31
    
    So true...but...the only fundamental that counts is that you get the
    clubhead square at contact CONSISTANTLY.  Jack himself is famous for
    the flying elbow, Lee has his own approach, Freddy Couples has an elbow
    that flies and Calvin Peete was an extreme variation, but was deadly
    accurate.  The swing plane, swing machine etc. is much over rated.  I
    have said this when talking about lessons with pros.  They want to
    teach you some archaic set of fundamentals and not allow you to use
    what you do well...based on your physical makeup.   John Daly is an
    example of someone who politely went about ignoring the "experts". 
    Even if he never wins again, there are a load of golfers out there that
    have a new outlook onthe game.  So much for "mystic Experiences" and
    "Zin Golf".  So much for line every shot up and toss grass three times. 
    So much for walk the green and wait for the grain to change direction
    before you putt.  All of us can learn something from this, even if we
    can't hit a 9 iron 170 (only when I blade it).  The only one negative
    about this play was Kenny Knox, hoping Daly would fade.  Funny, Bruce
    Leitzke was a little psyched out by the guy...Bruce said in response to
    Kenny Knox's comments...Kenny is going to have explain to me how
    hitting first to a green with a two iron is an advantage over hitting
    second with a 6 iron.
    
    Let's see how Daly does in Colorado this weekend.  Mile high golf balls
    fly.  Pars don't count-only birdies and eagles.  Could be fun.
    
    SCD

    I agree with you SCD ! I like to take a real whack at the ball when
    I play and it doesn't really matter to me if my hands are in the
    exact correct postion or that I get into the proper position at the
    top or my left arm stays straight. I might shoot 80 or 100, but who
    cares !! I don't, I just like to play and have fun doing it. I can't
    have fun if I am always having to do things properly. Some people
    need the rigidity of a set group of fundamentals so that when they
    aren't playing well they can blame it on technique problems rather
    than the evil gods of golf !!!
    
    My three cents,
        Mad Hacker
    
    (who couldn't ever hit a ball like Hogan anytime, anywhere, any
     amount of practicing the "Fundamentals", no matter what.
    
      Except in my dreams !!!!

    The thing with Daly's swing is there is very little margin for error.
    Its OK hitting 300 yards straight at the pin when you are on your game,
    but as soon as he starts to have problems with his swing(which he 
    is bound to sooner or later) then nobody will be able to help him 
    because he is so unconventional. The same is true of players like 
    Eamon Darcy, great it you can put it all together but despair if 
    anything is even fractionally out.

    Heard on the radio this AM that Daly might kick extra points for the
    Colts in an exhibition game.  It seems he was a semi-finalist in the
    national punt,pass, and kick competition when he was a boy, and was a
    placekicker on his high school team. 
    
    Ron Meyer (Colts coach) heard about Daly's desire to kick, and is
    trying to work something out with him.
    
    Bob

    A fantastic achievement by John Daly.
    I think that there is going to be , and indeed has already started, a
    lot of rubbish talked about him and the way he plays.
    
    I think he won because his length was tailor made for the course they
    played on ( I think a course like Merion would sort him out a lot,
    length not being too important there ). He won also because he was in
    the 'zone' for that week. He probably never hit the driver so
    accurately in his life.
    Finally and most important of all, he won because he handled the
    pressure better than anyone I've seen for a long time. This last factor
    is the most relevant to playing the game.
    As far as the swing goes, It'll always be the smooth accurate hitter
    like Hogan/Faldo who will win most.
    
    I think Daly's success will give the wrong impression to us amateurs. I
    reckon theres going to be many more balls lost in the woods from now
    on.
    
    Anyway, I'm biased. My philosophy of golf is to play a shot to make the 
    next one the easiest possible, not to knock the cover off the ball !!
    
    Martin

     When an architect like MacKenzie designed courses, he built landing
    areas that decreased in size the further you hit it, but which gave
    improved access to the green for a second shot. In effect, he was
    rewarding long hitters IF (!!) they hit a good shot. What happened with
    Daly was that he was hitting it well over the end of the "Human"
    landing areas into areas that weren't designed as tee shot landing
    areas. These areas were larger, and were probably designed to
    accommodate second shots of members. HOWEVER, to reach some of these
    areas, he often had to hit it 285 + on the fly. 284, and he'd have been
    in his worst nightmare, married or both.
    
     My hat's off to the guy - he never backed down - just kept pullin' his
    gun. I thought he might start analyzing a bit on Sat./Sun., hitting 1
    irons and 3 irons etc. - what those of us less talented call "Playing
    golf, not just hitting the ball." Most of the time that approach works,
    but this was an unusual occasion.
    
     I liked one of the pro's comments, saying in effect "I like the guy,
    but I hope he loses. Otherwise, can you imagine what Pete Dye will do
    to this course ?" Truthfully, Dye will probably leave it alone. You
    don't change a course because of one extraordinary person (Yeah, I know
    about the "Hinkle Tree at Inverness - I saw it, but he wasn't the only
    guy using that route). Enough finesse; I'm gonna start grippin' it an'
    rippin' it again before I get so old it doesn't matter...
    
    --Jack

    There are a couple of other things I liked about Long John.  He uses 
    (what I like to call) the 'hit it before it hits you' approach.  He
    makes up his mind, steps up to it and let's it go.  No  this is not
    another slow play topic, it's just that I see people agonize over a
    shot probably thinking about 60,000,000 different things they can do wrong.
    I know that I play better when I think about what I want to do on a
    particular shot rather than thinking about straight left arm, head
    down, should to the wheel........
    
    The other thing I like about him is the man has got class.  He won the
    Greater Erie Charity Golf Classic here a couple of weeks back.  He gave
    back $5,000 of the $25,000 first prize.  I also understand that gave
    $30,000 of the $230,000 back to PGA charities.  Nice touch!
    
    
    						KO

    .38>> down, should to the wheel........
    		^^^^^^ Should be shouldER  (mild attempt at huhmor)
    
    Somebody mentioned they wonder what Long John will do when power is not
    the important part of a course.  When he won here in Erie, it was on a
    VERY SHORT Donald Ross course.  As you know Ross doesn't give away too
    much around the greens.  From the people here who saw him play there,
    word is that he has a great short game.  So my bet is that he becomes
    a great player.  Lord knows the PGA tour can use somebody like that
    now.
    
    						KO

    
    Walta,
    
     I just read your reply on the Gregie Boy and even though now I know
    that my man finished behind the Cod I know I would have taken you up on
    the bet. so you let me know when you want to hook up nad I'll buy you a
    bucket of balls. Hey where did pavin finsh anyway? Boy can I pick em or
    what.
    
    Pete

    
    Hi,
    
    	Even though John won by 3 strokes... the end was still exciting.
    
    	I kept on the edge of my seat as he stepped to the 18th tee,
    	here he is, he's never won on the tour... it's his first year,
    	he's leading a MAJOR by three strokes ( a MAJOR tournament!!
    	something professional golfers have spent a lifetime trying
    	to win, and many, like Tom Kite will never be given greatness
    	without winning one) ...he could eliminate ANY
    	chance of loosing and play for a bogie... or he could VERY
    	possibly blow the lead and hit the driver ...
    
    	Hmmmm  what will he do??
    
    	and with the commentators stammering in the background about 
    	" the smart thing to do " after all, if you can hit the ball
    	300+ yards into the fairway... you can hit the ball 300+ yards
    	into danger...
    
    	 John Daly reached for the driver, and smoked it . Made par
    	and won. Done.
    
    	Unbelievable. I hope he writes a book "My last nine holes of
    	my first major" !
    
    
    	Walta
    
    	

Walta, you write so good you could do it for him!

    re:36
    
    Martin, the point is exactly that.  You hit the ball to get the easiest
    possible shot next.  So Daly hits it so he can hit a nice high 8 iron
    or L wedge.  Others are content to try and stop 5 and 6 irns close to
    the pin.  There is no pro out there that would not trade their position
    off of the tee for Daly's.
    
    Saw a Gary McCord interview with Daly and Joey Sindelar and Sindelar
    described Daly's 1st round at the International as a very smooth power
    swing.  Daly hit a 3 wood and 8 iron on one par 5 (#17) and hit a 400
    yard drive on 18.  Driver, L wedge on a 460 yard par 4.  He hit a 1
    iron 70 yards past the best drive in his group on one hole and was
    consistantly 40 yds past Sindelar.  
    
    Its back to the range for me to get my elbow back up there where it
    used to be.  I think there may be a new swing dynamic as a result of
    the efforts of Davis Love, Freddy Couples and John Daly.  Maybe even a
    market for a newly designed "Iron Byron" with a flying elbow.
    
    SCD

	First off, I'd like to congratulate John Daly on an excellent tournament
and his 1st Major!!!  As a rookie, that is a tremendous feat!!!  Now as to how 
talented this kid is and how far he goes, has only to do with John Daly himself.
He himself said, that this course was built just for him.  With his exceptional
length, it game him a huge advantage over 2/3 of the field and a slight 
advantage over the rest.  Then he just got into a groove with the driver an the
putter.  That was the tournament.  Most pros can stick the short irons close, 
but the ones with the hot putters, win tournaments.  
	I think to compare Daly to Nicklaus or Palmer etc., as to how many
Majors or even tournaments he can/will win, is extremely difficult to do for 2
reasons.  One, as someone else already mentioned, to many young pros win a tourny
or 2 and fade away.  It is something else all together, to win and do well over
and over again.  And two, it is even more difficult today, with the number of
good players.  Years ago, when Nicklaus and Arny were having their weekly
competition, their were but a handful of other players that could compete with
these guys.  I'd love to look at the top 10 finishers from every tournament in
the mid 60's.  I'd bet they were very similar each week.  But today, it is very
rare to see more than 1 or 2 players who hav1 won more than 1 tournament.  And
also there are probably 60-75 players who have finished in the top 10 of a 
tourny, at least once.  The competition is just so much bigger.
	In any event, I hope John Daly can continue to play well and make a lot
of cuts.  He is fun to watch, to say the least.  He hit some 375+ yard drives
in the International!!!

Beak

    John Daly played very well to win the PGA but I fail to be impressed
    with him. John just had a good week I don't think he will be the new 
    Jack!
    
    I would like to see him on a course that requires tact instead of sheer
    hitting power. A place like Wentworth, tree lined and lots of dog legs,
    I don't think that he would be that good at this type of venue.
    
    I think that the media are to blame for all the stories about this new
    star, it is fair to say that the american public need a new golfing
    hero at a time when the Faldo's, woosie and co are cleaning up on the 
    majors, but I don' t believe that Daly is the answer to your prayers.
    
    HE'S GOOD BUT NOT THAT GOOD!
    
    

    
    Personally I like to see someone like Daley win. He probably shouldn't
    have one, but he did. Yes it was probably a fluke, but so what. It
    reminds me of the NCAA Basketball Tournement about 10 years ago when
    Villanova won the whole thing. They're wern't suppose to win, but they
    did, which made for some super basketball games. I think that with Daly
    winning it adds more excitement to the game. Seeing Faldo winning all
    the time is BOOOOOOORING. The more competition our there, the more
    exciting the game becomes.
    
    Mike

    The '91 Skins Game has been set with John Daly as a participant. The
    others are Jack, Payne Stewart and Fred Couples.
    
    Should be a trip. Daly will get a test of his game on the course the
    Skins game is played. If I remember there is plenty of waste area if
    you stray.
    
    Ken

    
    Speaking of Daly:  Peter Jacobson is really p.o. at him.  Daly waited
    until the last minute and pulled out of Jacobson's best ball tourney
    in Portland.
    
    Jacobson was quoted by ESPN as saying: "There are only two things you 
    have in this game, your work habits, and your word.  He's young he'll
    learn..."
    
    Shane
    

    
    
    RE: .48
    
    Unfortunately it isn't John Daly's fault..He has an agent 
    who keeps him organized!
                  

    Correction on the Skins Game
    
    It's Curtis Strange
    John Daly
    Jack and Payne Stewart
    
    Ken

    
    re: -1
    
    Payne Stewart eh?  That ought to add a little fire to Jack's swing
    after Payne's comments about Jack and the Ryder Cup team!!!!!!
    
    Shane
    

    what were the comments?  don't recall seeing them here.
    
    I believe Curtis is in the Skins as defending champion.  Wonder if he
    will find his game by then?

    
    Stewart told a reporter that he didn't feel Jack should be on the
    Ryder Cup team because at 51 Jack wouldn't be able to handle it if
    he had to play two rounds in one day!!!!!!!!
    
    Shane
    

    what stewart and some of the other younger players on the tour feel
    toward the "old guard" like Nicklaus is very true but....
    
    seeing's how golf is a business and seeing's how the "old guard"
    is still the only one's who can consistantly generate money when
    they appear in events they'll be around a while until the younger
    players become good enough to generate the same interest/money....
    
    it's a fact of life, so instead of stewart and some of the others
    whinning maybe they should chsnge their "work habits" and get better
    so they command the same respect...
    
    	Imagine IMG going to some corporate giant like say COKE and trying
    to get them to sponsor a tourney, in other words put up x dollars
    and such, who do you think the corporate giants are going to be
    requesting/demanding before they commint x dollars??? It isn't going
    to be the payne stewarts it's going to be the Nicklaus/Trevino/etc.